zounet (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Brumbo Tungus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PrL3053A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-20T17:39:18.776+0000) > > She always has both swords, they're fused into 1 sword and she just splits them apart. ok thx, I was nt sure, but what is the current transformation of kayle in the lore?
> [{quoted}](name=zounet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PrL3053A,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-02-20T18:00:58.735+0000) > > ok > thx, I was nt sure, but what is the current transformation of kayle in the lore? Did kyle ever have only 2 wings in the lore?
: She always has both swords, they're fused into 1 sword and she just splits them apart.
> [{quoted}](name=Brumbo Tungus,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=PrL3053A,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-20T17:39:18.776+0000) > > She always has both swords, they're fused into 1 sword and she just splits them apart. ok thx, I was nt sure, but what is the current transformation of kayle in the lore?
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Shiwah (EUW)
: They have 6.
> [{quoted}](name=Shiwah,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=VdHj9xQz,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-20T12:00:29.884+0000) > > They have 6. ok thanks I wasnt sure because they only have 4 wings in their splashart
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Gilgayu (NA)
: Absolutely amazing post, thank you so much (as a concept creator in C&C, posts like this really helps out a lot) Are Watchers the known highest-in-command for Void, or have there been hints of a higher life form? When they create a Voidborn, are they actually separating their own energy (as in giving those purple Void energy to the Voidborn)? Or are they simply creating them from...nothing. If Void-Touched entities take wayyyyyyy longer to form than Voidborns, how are they so much weaker? and why? __________ (Now going into specifics) Ryze is probably the strongest mage alive. In his short story he battled a person wielding a World Rune head on, and won, proving his insane power as a mage. He also uses arcane magic, which is also one of the trees for in-game runes. From this we can somewhat suspect that arcane magic is... one of the stronger branches of magic? In Ryze: Call of Power, he went pretty even with a watcher, whom you mentioned are powerful enough to take down Ascendents. So............................... Perhaps the only reason why Void hasn't taken over Runeterra is because of Ryze and a few other extremely powerful Ascendants (Bard, Nagakabouros, A Sol?). I'm also not sure where can I find information about the Void War, do you know where to look.
> [{quoted}](name=Gilgayu,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rbUjJyWI,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-02-17T13:20:57.316+0000) > > Absolutely amazing post, thank you so much (as a concept creator in C&C, posts like this really helps out a lot) > > Are Watchers the known highest-in-command for Void, or have there been hints of a higher life form? > > When they create a Voidborn, are they actually separating their own energy (as in giving those purple Void energy to the Voidborn)? Or are they simply creating them from...nothing. > > If Void-Touched entities take wayyyyyyy longer to form than Voidborns, how are they so much weaker? and why? > __________ > (Now going into specifics) > Ryze is probably the strongest mage alive. In his short story he battled a person wielding a World Rune head on, and won, proving his insane power as a mage. > He also uses arcane magic, which is also one of the trees for in-game runes. From this we can somewhat suspect that arcane magic is... one of the stronger branches of magic? > > In Ryze: Call of Power, he went pretty even with a watcher, whom you mentioned are powerful enough to take down Ascendents. > > So............................... > > Perhaps the only reason why Void hasn't taken over Runeterra is because of Ryze and a few other extremely powerful Ascendants (Bard, Nagakabouros, A Sol?). > I'm also not sure where can I find information about the Void War, do you know where to look. very good theory I completely agree and I would like ryze to be really powerful to destroy a watcher
DaRkSkyX (EUW)
: All I like and I don't like about Kayle & Morgana reworks
but, there are wings falling on her dress so 6 wings
zounet (EUW)
: woodweavers
but is it elemental magic like light magic or ice magic?
: Could just be that they used already dead and fallen trees, or the trees willingly gave up that part of themselves in service to the woodweavers (see: The Giving Tree)
Yes good idea that's probably the explanation thank you
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: > [{quoted}](name=zounet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EhHlE6I7,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-09T18:05:38.062+0000) > > she 's omnipresent > it has been confirmed by riot in the kindred's Q and A They*
yes "they" but they are ONE entity, so also "she"
: The existence of magic is illogical why are you trying to understand it
because Riot is tries to explaining it: spiritual magic is just something that comes from the spirit world and arcane magic, ascended magic, targon magic, all come from the magic of celestials (bard, aurelion, soraka ...) which exists since the creation of the universe. so I agree a little that we can not explain the celestials, or the watchers, because they are immortal, but the magic can be partly explain I think, as its origin
: Yorick: Shadow Isles magic aka undead magic. Sylas: strange manifestation of arcane probably
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: So does she (or they) travel or is she (or they) omipresent and gives the dying a choice wolf (slow painful) or lamb (fast and painless)?
she 's omnipresent it has been confirmed by riot in the kindred's Q and A
zounet (EUW)
: Riot,will you continue to develop about the races?
but please riot, tell me that darkin and vastayas will not be the only races this year...
: We're getting yordle lore and a yordle champion this year, which is pretty cool. Also Kayle/Morgana are gonna be... something different.
super !!! j'éspère vraiment qu'ils expliqueront enfin les aspects
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: Lux needs a Model update
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/QOvo8 this
: Lux needs a Model update
> [](https://www.artstation.com/artwork/QOvo8) it's exactly what I want
: Something called "Legends of Runeterra" is in the works..
Jeddy017 (NA)
: As long as it doesn't make her look like a walking tent, I'm cool with it.
every time I'll play it, I'll think about it (until rework){{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
QMighty (NA)
: Another Post Hyping the Dang Roadmap
Luminier (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=QMighty,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=J8tOzbOu,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-01-22T17:17:05.367+0000) > > It's gotta be one of these four: {{champion:82}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:106}} > ... > or one of these four: {{champion:82}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:82}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:23}}
{{champion:26}}
: > [{quoted}](name=zounet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OYWgWYY,comment-id=000400010000,timestamp=2019-01-18T12:00:37.908+0000) > > so: > -lux is a mage of light, so elemental magic. Garen is not a mage but we can assume that his weapon is in petricite Is Light an element? > -lulu is a yordle, and comes from bandle in the spirit world, with pix, her fairy But Pix isn't from Bandle City, he's from The Glade. > -syndra has a gift with magic (I think rather runic magic, because its magic disturbs spiritual magic) Does Runic magic disturb spiritual magic?
I'm sure that light is an element, because odin has confirmed it, I dont know where (and ashes and sand too) the yordle update is coming soon, and the lulu lore isnt really canon and in the shen's story we see that fairies live in the spirit world this is a possibility, but we havn t had confirmation about the type of her magic, but I dont think she uses shadow magic (maybe spiritual magic?)
Caithresh (EUW)
: About The Dreaming Pool...
you seem to know syndra well, and I agree that "the dreaming pool "is great! your ideas are interesting, and personally, I would like to see a little more kalan, whois the best guy of the lore(I think after syndra according to you^^) just a question: what do you think of the magic syndra uses?is it runic magic? spiritual magic?
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=2OYWgWYY,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-01-18T06:40:30.170+0000) > > Celestial: cosmos/Targon/celestial sources > Spiritual: spirit realm > Undead/necromancy: Black Mist > Blood magic: self explanatory > Arcane and Runic: World Runes > Elemental: we don't know yet, but there's a theory that it's conected with spiritual magic > Yordle: nobody knows > Demon magic (swain, evelyin etc): self explanatory > True Ice/Dark Ice magic: True Ice/Dark Ice, might be an extension of Ice elemental magic > Did I miss any? Where does Light magic (Lux, maybe Garen) fit into this? Is it Arcane or possibly linked to Holy magic? What about Nature Magic (Ivern, Maokai, Zyra)? Related to spiritual magic? Shapeshifting (Nidalee)? I know Udyr's is linked to spirits (I.E, spiritual magic), but I don't know if Nidalee works the same way (considering she physically changes into the animal). Void magic is obvious where it comes from, but you missed it. Shadow magic (Nocturne, Kayn, Zed)? Linked to Void magic? Sand magic (Ascended)? Some form of Elemental magic? Poison magic (Cassiopeia)? Spider magic (Elise)? Wychfyre (Fiddlesticks)? Holy magic (Kayle)? Related to Light magic? Illusionary magic (LeBlanc)? Lee Sin? Faerie magic (Lulu)? Metalmancy (Mordekaiser)? Music magic (Sona)? Dark magic (Syndra)? Related to Shadow magic? Card magic (Twisted Fate)? Chronomancy (Zilean)? That's all I could think of.
so: -lux is a mage of light, so elemental magic. Garen is not a mage but we can assume that his weapon is in petricite -ivern, maokai and zyra are partly nature spirits -nidalee is a mixture of vastayas and human -magic shadow is not related to the void, but comes from the spirit world (new nocturne lore) -The magic of the sand exists: it is an elemental magic, but the ascended uses celestial magic thanks to the sun disc -cassiopeia needs a new lore -elyse needs a new lore -fiddlestick will surely be rework, with a new lore -Kayle is rework in February (can be a celestial?) -leblanc uses arcane magic (runes) -lee sin is connected to the spiritual world -lulu is a yordle, and comes from bandle in the spirit world, with pix, her fairy -mordekaiser uses all the magic he finds: yordle magic, arcane, shadow magic (...), but he should soon be rework -sona is probably connected to the spirit world because she comes from ionia -syndra has a gift with magic (I think rather runic magic, because its magic disturbs spiritual magic) -twisted fate has enchanted cards (maybe runic magic) -zilean needs a rework (arcane=rune magic)
: Celestial: cosmos/Targon/celestial sources Spiritual: spirit realm Undead/necromancy: Black Mist Blood magic: self explanatory Arcane and Runic: World Runes Elemental: we don't know yet, but there's a theory that it's conected with spiritual magic Yordle: nobody knows Demon magic (swain, evelyin etc): self explanatory True Ice/Dark Ice magic: True Ice/Dark Ice, might be an extension of Ice elemental magic Did I miss any?
thank you ryzethesmurfmage finally a clear answer! I think the yordles use spiritual magic, because bandle is a place in the spirit world, so our dear little hairy friends would be kind of spirits, which is strange, because they all look like little animals (so cute) !) I think the update of the yordles lore is coming very soon
: > [{quoted}](name=zounet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=djPdjTYn,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-01-17T13:43:58.772+0000) > > I want to know how humans have "mixed" with the vastayashai'rei: > by mating "physically" or by connecting their spirits "magically" > > like the santangelo's question Why the fuck do you need to know that
> [{quoted}](name=Hextech OwI,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=djPdjTYn,comment-id=000000010001,timestamp=2019-01-17T16:13:04.098+0000) > > Why the fuck do you need to k hummmm... I don't know^^ (maybe because the vastaya lore is the first thing I read about the lol universe)
: By "pairing of the two species", what do you mean?
I want to know how humans have "mixed" with the vastayashai'rei: by mating "physically" or by connecting their spirits "magically" like the santangelo's question
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: Celestial beings were building runeterra with the runes
It makes sense, because it explains the lore of veigar and its magic of the stars which is thus the runic magic. I want them to talk about it this year! I hope that these celestial beings are like soraka and the aspects
: > [{quoted}](name=zounet,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ybf4jGL6,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2018-12-31T08:20:31.429+0000) > > how could a yordle be related to cosmic magic? > As a free-spirited inhabitant of Bandle City, he once longed to learn more of the celestial magic practiced by mortals, but his natural curiosity was twisted by imprisonment in the Immortal Bastion. His bio summary
but mortal don't use celestial magic(they are not ascendeds or aspects or celestials),they use rune or spiritual magic. So,what does it mean? maybe the celestial magic is the magic of the runes because the runes come (maybe) from space (or from a huge celestial entity)
: The magic of the runes sepparate into 2 subclasses if I may call them so. Rune magic, which is basically words of power, and it enables the user with some unique spells compared to arcane, and arcane, which is the most common one, and it also has some unique spells. Ryze uses both of them, Brand uses only runic cause of the World Rune inside him, Xerath uses arcane and cosmic at once (cause he is an Ascended). Syndra is using spiritual magic, as her spheres were described as being taken straight from the spiriual realm. Basically, runic and arcane are quite similar, cause they originate from the same source even tho sometimes they act differently, and of course have some different spells. Now spiritual, it also has subclasses. It seems elemental and spiritual are quite conected (ex for elemental: Taliah, Yasuo), and I'm not talking about just fire (which arcane, runic, cosmic etc can also do, tho a bit different each) or frost (which is basically a magic of its own, as frost mages like Yago exist, and Iceborns can use that too, Lissandra is both a frost witch and an Iceborn), because iirc a Rioter stated something about them being conected. If I remember wrong, it's still plausible, because the Freljordian SPIRIT Gods are elemental. Guess who's also elemental? That's right. Elemental magic like Yasuo and Taliah, which seem to be conected to their spirits/souls. Npw for cosmic, it is related to deities and space. Not much to say here except Ascended use that only (Im talking about normal Ascended, not Darkins), except for Xerath who uses both arcane and cosmic at the same time. Now blood magic is also a thinf of its own. There isn't any explanation needed I think. There is also shadow (nocturne, zed, kayn) magic and light magic (lux), who are basically opposed to each other, as Lux drove Nocturne back through light magic. Also, Black Mist magic. Now to answer the questions regarding the characters you listed: Veigar: Cosmic, it was described as such in his lore and also through his abilties Ekko: yes. Hextech tho its not really magic. It uses magical crystals the same way we use electricity. Twisted Fate: I dont know tbh. I assume he is kinda a weaker mage who needs magical cards to use his powers The shape-shifters: Hmmmmm... idk haven't read Vayne's lore in like 1 year. The thorns: Yes. Elemental. Sylas: A mistery tbh. It seems like its a very special magical ability that only he posseses so we don't know which magic he uses. The little girl: there are many possibilities: arcane, runic, or elemental. Tho my bets are on arcane cause she made that lighting from herself, not from the surrounding. Yorick: Black Mist Hope this helps
how could a yordle be related to cosmic magic?
EdgeLady (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ybf4jGL6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-30T22:42:14.852+0000) > > Ekko: yes. Hextech tho its not really magic. It uses magical crystals the same way we use electricity. > Twisted Fate: I dont know tbh. I assume he is kinda a weaker mage who needs magical cards to use his powers A good question is how the Brackern crystals get their magic, which I assume we'll see whenever Skarner gets his rework (and Riot acknowledges the poor guy exists; he still has the worst base splash art in the game by far). At least Taliyah has some serious recent interactions with him, and Shurima seems to be very popular lately, so maybe we'll finally get some info on how Brackern crystals work and how they react to people using them. With that said, on Twisted Fate, with him I have a bit of a theory on how his magic works, in the same vein as Hextech users and even Ezreal. I'm thinking it's a kind of "low" magic, something more in the vein of magicians, except, of course, it's real. It's the same kind of magic that lets Hextech crystals be used to the limits of users' imaginations, that lets Ezreal do tricks and magic with his gauntlet, and presumably, lets Twisted Fate and his family do magic with cards. I note the similarities in all these kinds of magic, how they tend to use an object or device to "channel" the magic to do something. I also note the similarities in Twisted Fate's and Ezreal's kits: both are mage-marksmen with a teleport ability, a global ult, and a W that is the focus of the kit and is good at taking down single targets.
yes, I've already thought about brackerns: they are maybe descendants of the vastayashai'rei, and their crystals are concentrated spiritual magic, which allows them to move to non-magical places (these are just ideas)
: The magic of the runes sepparate into 2 subclasses if I may call them so. Rune magic, which is basically words of power, and it enables the user with some unique spells compared to arcane, and arcane, which is the most common one, and it also has some unique spells. Ryze uses both of them, Brand uses only runic cause of the World Rune inside him, Xerath uses arcane and cosmic at once (cause he is an Ascended). Syndra is using spiritual magic, as her spheres were described as being taken straight from the spiriual realm. Basically, runic and arcane are quite similar, cause they originate from the same source even tho sometimes they act differently, and of course have some different spells. Now spiritual, it also has subclasses. It seems elemental and spiritual are quite conected (ex for elemental: Taliah, Yasuo), and I'm not talking about just fire (which arcane, runic, cosmic etc can also do, tho a bit different each) or frost (which is basically a magic of its own, as frost mages like Yago exist, and Iceborns can use that too, Lissandra is both a frost witch and an Iceborn), because iirc a Rioter stated something about them being conected. If I remember wrong, it's still plausible, because the Freljordian SPIRIT Gods are elemental. Guess who's also elemental? That's right. Elemental magic like Yasuo and Taliah, which seem to be conected to their spirits/souls. Npw for cosmic, it is related to deities and space. Not much to say here except Ascended use that only (Im talking about normal Ascended, not Darkins), except for Xerath who uses both arcane and cosmic at the same time. Now blood magic is also a thinf of its own. There isn't any explanation needed I think. There is also shadow (nocturne, zed, kayn) magic and light magic (lux), who are basically opposed to each other, as Lux drove Nocturne back through light magic. Also, Black Mist magic. Now to answer the questions regarding the characters you listed: Veigar: Cosmic, it was described as such in his lore and also through his abilties Ekko: yes. Hextech tho its not really magic. It uses magical crystals the same way we use electricity. Twisted Fate: I dont know tbh. I assume he is kinda a weaker mage who needs magical cards to use his powers The shape-shifters: Hmmmmm... idk haven't read Vayne's lore in like 1 year. The thorns: Yes. Elemental. Sylas: A mistery tbh. It seems like its a very special magical ability that only he posseses so we don't know which magic he uses. The little girl: there are many possibilities: arcane, runic, or elemental. Tho my bets are on arcane cause she made that lighting from herself, not from the surrounding. Yorick: Black Mist Hope this helps
thank you for taking the time to answer, everything is very clear,and yes, it helps me^^ but where did you see that syndra uses spiritual magic? I thought she had a gift with arcane magic (runes), and that magic had an impact on Ionia's spiritual environment
zounet (EUW)
: different runeterra magic
oh, and I forgot the witch in the garen's story!
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: Theory on who are Iceborn,Stormborn and Hearthborn in the Freljord
we can also assume that the iceborn, stormborn (...) take their magic from the spirits of this element (ice = anivia, lightning = volibear, fire = ornn)
: Theory on who are Iceborn,Stormborn and Hearthborn in the Freljord
There are 2 kinds of magic: the runes magic (ryze, brand, syndra ...), which comes from the runes, and the spiritual magic (which includes the magic of the shadows and the elemental magic: iceborn, stormborn .. .) which comes from the spirit world. we must not confuse them!
zounet (EUW)
: are the magical creatures the descendants of the vastayashai'rei?
"the offspring of these pairings settled into a variety of regions and therefore adopted diverse forms, from the winged humanoids of Ionia or the sporadically-limbed sandshufflers of Shurima" from eduard santangelo's vastaya field journal that s why I think brackerns are vastayas or vastayashai rei "Skarner is an immense crystalline scorpion from a hidden valley in Shurima. Part of the ancient Brackern race, Skarner and his kin are known for their great wisdom and deep connection to the land" and brackerns are also connected to their land,like the vastayas(hai rei) "the young Brackern searched for the crystal meant for them, just as the consciousness within the stone beckoned to the Brackern it had chosen to inherit its magic and memories." so brackerns are magical being like the vastayas(hai rei) and they are also destroyed by human ,like the description of this sandshufflers of shurima who are vastayas
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: Riot, Thank you for the new Soraka Lore & Short Story
(sorry for my english, i'm french ^^) i have two ideas about soraka: first, it seems obvious that she is an aspect and not a celestial entity like aurelion or bard. Then she created a new body with her stars magic (there are enough atoms in stars to form organic matter), or it is like all the manifestations that we know, and she is reincarnated in a runnetteran (surely a vastaya, that's why she stays close to her vastaya tribe in targon) in both cases, I like soraka. Tell me if I'm wrong or if you agree

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