: Jungle & Support summed up in one quote
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: What do you think is the best example of the English language being a fuckup?
The entire language is, grammar is based off whatever they felt like deciding at the time. If the words based off French it uses French grammar, unless it doesn't. Rinse and repeat with any word.
: > [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OazuEjEo,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-03-21T00:25:17.423+0000) > > 120 HP is like what, 15% if he didn’t build HP? You can’t kill a half health guy in 14 seconds? And it’s not like you didn’t know he had the heal. It’s like saying you tried diving Vlad with his Q charged and didn’t think about him healing. You act like the guy playing sylas is a target dummy? He has a shield that goes into the equation he also buys protobelt first which is 300 hp and also he isnt going to let you whack him he has CC and does alot of dmg as well and zhonyas is a possibility or the stopwatch not to mention CDR and runes and there's an X factor what ultimate has he stolen? sylas isn't cut and dry bro.
> [{quoted}](name=TSM Polarbear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OazuEjEo,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-21T00:28:15.544+0000) > > You act like the guy playing sylas is a target dummy? He has a shield that goes into the equation he also buys protobelt first which is 300 hp and also he isnt going to let you whack him he has CC and does alot of dmg as well and zhonyas is a possibility or the stopwatch not to mention CDR and runes and there's an X factor what ultimate has he stolen? sylas isn't cut and dry bro. Isn't cut and dry? Except when you're talking about it. Lol. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OazuEjEo,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-03-20T21:34:07.034+0000) > > I mean it is decently long. Using a 14 second CD when you’re 40% HP. If you can’t kill him before it’s up again... why are you 1v1ing him as soraka? using a 14 second heal when your 40% hp makes it so your not 40% hp anymore.....
> [{quoted}](name=TSM Polarbear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OazuEjEo,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-03-21T00:08:58.280+0000) > > using a 14 second heal when your 40% hp makes it so your not 40% hp anymore..... 120 HP is like what, 15% if he didn’t build HP? You can’t kill a half health guy in 14 seconds? And it’s not like you didn’t know he had the heal. It’s like saying you tried diving Vlad with his Q charged and didn’t think about him healing.
: Sylas Heal and leagues losing a grip on the basics
I mean it is decently long. Using a 14 second CD when you’re 40% HP. If you can’t kill him before it’s up again... why are you 1v1ing him as soraka?
: > [{quoted}](name=Aarron,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GEfRQcoA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-20T05:51:49.153+0000) > > Not like this change hurts anyone but him Yeah, but maybe a future champ could appreciate it :c
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GEfRQcoA,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-03-20T06:27:46.189+0000) > > Yeah, but maybe a future champ could appreciate it :c If Ryze doesn't want it you sure as hell ain't gonna create a champ different from Ezreal that also wants that.
Rioter Comments
: We are all boned if Riot makes a champion like this guy.
Rioter Comments
Baval (NA)
: Superman is a level beyond other superheros OP, especially the pre crisis Superman who could basically do anything and got new powers daily. Hes been toned down post crisis but is still pretty OP. That said, hes not boring because there are plenty of characters in DC who are even more OP than him to challenge him. So he actually has to outsmart more opponents than casual Superhero fans realize.
> [{quoted}](name=Baval,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=h3qxq4fl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-18T15:32:06.627+0000) > > Superman is a level beyond other superheros OP, especially the pre crisis Superman who could basically do anything and got new powers daily. Hes been toned down post crisis but is still pretty OP. That said, hes not boring because there are plenty of characters in DC who are even more OP than him to challenge him. So he actually has to outsmart more opponents than casual Superhero fans realize. He has to outsmart them if he isn't straight up killing people. Tis why they've made Superman a villain pretty often in new media. But sometimes it just makes sense. Idk why people would have problems lobotomizing Doomsday lol.
Blåsigt (NA)
: I mean, her spears used to be pretty oppressive. Btw, did she get in anything in exchange for her spear nerf? Edit: come to think of it, she kinda was a proto Zoe lol
> [{quoted}](name= Blåsigt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=0AOXtLtv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-19T02:16:00.718+0000) > > I mean, her spears used to be pretty oppressive. Btw, did she get in anything in exchange for her spear nerf? > > Edit: come to think of it, she kinda was a proto Zoe lol />proto Zoe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3-qyAoF6jow
Gilgayu (NA)
: Since you said you'd rather save your analysis for my next iteration... Well, here it is. Overall I made Ovenaas solo-lane power much greater and made his ultimate slightly more meaningful.
> [{quoted}](name=Gilgayu,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=8Jweu8ij,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-03-18T00:32:47.934+0000) > > Since you said you'd rather save your analysis for my next iteration... > > Well, here it is. Overall I made Ovenaas solo-lane power much greater and made his ultimate slightly more meaningful. Ok I'm going to ignore numbers. I'm just gonna say most of them are wrong. Too excessive or too weak. First off you need to define what you want him to do. He's a support tank. You gave him a suicide button. No. Secondly he either needs to function outside of the support role or he needs to be really good at it. He has one spell that hits creeps, ergo he needs to be really good at supporting. As-is his pre-6 kit functions as a jungle skirmisher. His passive on Q would function better as a level 5 rank ability similar to Akali Q damage. Then you'd get rid of the armor threshold and just make it scale with armor. There's also the issue that its a permanent passive instead of something enemies can play around. You can get away with Frozen Heart because its an item and has a range, so theres at least a few ways to take care of it, but having a constant movespeed/attackspeed slow doesn't really work. Basic League ideology when it comes to balance is that you cannot have allies move/cc allies without permission. Thresh lantern requires allies click on it, Kalista ult is controlled by the support instead of Kalista, allies must hop into Tahm for ult. League breaks that rule if they allow the ally a measure of control. Tahm can eat allies, but they can also jump out early. Kalista decides when to ult, the Oathsworn decides how the ult is used. Ovenaas deciding who gets infested is perfectly fine, him being able to punch allies is not. Him having a way to clear enemy cc on an ally is perfectly fine. I'd say most designers would just make it a spell shield since League hates post-reactive defensive, but I'm sure you could do something with that. It needs cleanup so its more functional and at the same time retaining ways for enemies to play around it. I feel like you either need to double down on the link mechanic like Taric or find a way to distinguish it further from Tarics. Putting RNG in a skill purely to weaken it before Rank 5 is antithetical to League design. They've actively removed RNG. Jax Dodge being a big one. Infestation as an idea should be the key hook for what makes this champion. How you want to express that is up to you, but I want to be clear that is the big hook I see. Generally with how League design's been shaping, they might or might not do extra resists on the target. Since its a long term defensive steroid it could go either way. I would say that a majority of the power would get shoved into a shield based off his HP. Since you liked the damage->healing on his passive and the low health healing on his E, I'd recommend making him use HP as a stat similar to Mundo, but make his healing much more support style. He sacrifices HP to infest an ally, providing them with a shield based off it, then supports them so the shield matters and they can kill people during it. Maybe make it so the shield heals the ally based on leftover amount. You could play around with that, do a lot of different stuff. My big suggestion, if you take nothing else, is work with that Infestation idea and build off that. A lot of champions are a hook that they then flesh out to support. For example {{champion:517}} has a dash on his E which means if he steals Lucian ult he can use that without cancelling it. Gnar's built around his rage + two forms. They turned Gangplank into a barrel man. Ekko's only hook was the time hextech he had, they went through multiple ults before finally getting his Chronobreak. Then they made Ekko travelling back in time matter for his other abilities. Take your hook and explore.
: The three stages of playing Kayle
{{champion:236}} Lategame will decide your fate. {{champion:10}} I AM THE LATEGAME
: Does Steraks passive stack with the Phantom Dancer Shield?
Streaks, PD, Hexdrinker, Maw, do not stack. The second passives that say “when lifeline triggers” still work. So if Maw triggered Lifeline and you had Steraks you’d get the tenacity.
Gilgayu (NA)
: Ovenaas the Frozen-Darkin
Can’t have him control allies. Anything else I have would be general complaints regarding numbers or basic mechanics to work around. I’d rather save it for your next iteration if you want. Also, check out Mina from Dawngate. She’s the same idea of using an ally as a host, but as a mage support.
: Post ITT and I'll tell you one thing I like and dislike about you.
Can I be offended that a Canadian is telling me something he dislikes about me?
: With the tiny amount that she actually steals it really isn't an issue. Equals out to 1 gold every 4.5 seconds(0.22 per second). You get about 2 per second in SR, 1.6 per second in TT, and 5.5 per second in ARAM. This is 10/12.5/3.6 seconds worth of PASSIVE gold every 90 seconds. Even in 1-for-all you won't be able to negate a single champion's passive income, only about 55% if you all hard camp 1 guy(which lets everyone else get ahead of your team). I do think that SHE should get more gold though, depending on her level. Like 20-100g, since it has 90s cooldown, just not steal more than 20? Idk.
> [{quoted}](name=Mr Voidling,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=8BFii30X,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-14T23:55:15.645+0000) > > With the tiny amount that she actually steals it really isn't an issue. Equals out to 1 gold every 4.5 seconds(0.22 per second). You get about 2 per second in SR, 1.6 per second in TT, and 5.5 per second in ARAM. This is 10/12.5/3.6 seconds worth of PASSIVE gold every 90 seconds. Even in 1-for-all you won't be able to negate a single champion's passive income, only about 55% if you all hard camp 1 guy(which lets everyone else get ahead of your team). > I do think that SHE should get more gold though, depending on her level. Like 20-100g, since it has 90s cooldown, just not steal more than 20? Idk. 20 gold is still annoying, and frustrating if she gets ahead. Let’s say she kills the support. In addition to losing exp and gold generation you’ve lost 20 gold. 20 gold is a lot for a support. I’d rather she gain 40 gold.
: Ortello, the Stonecarver
You need more abilities working with terrain if you’re going to use Trundle pillar as an ult. Need more ways for him to keep people there and work with it. Or you could make it move.
: Champion Concept: Wilk - The Glimmer Thief
Can’t have actual gold theft. Has to only be a positive in Wilk’s direction.
: when people vote no I leave and turn off the game because fuck em, can't keep me in an unwinnable situation.
> [{quoted}](name=Alluring Agony,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=av2mzEpx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-14T21:29:57.348+0000) > > when people vote no I leave and turn off the game because fuck em, can't keep me in an unwinnable situation. That’s fine. You’ll get leaverbustered
Rioter Comments
: Renekton is really unfun to play against
You shouldn’t be standing in your minions lol. He only heals more. Unless you’re a tank trying to get the wave pushed towards you play like your minions are a stepping stone to getting you killed. If you don’t understand how Renekton plays your complainints are meaningless.
: The Theorycrafter's Dilemma
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Moody P (NA)
: Yeah this was really suss to me, I don't remember it ever saying that Did he mean the cool down reduction?
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IEr5EcEZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-12T22:14:50.240+0000) > > Yeah this was really suss to me, I don't remember it ever saying that > > Did he mean the cool down reduction? Idk. That's just a flat reduction that isn't effected by CDR.
Rioter Comments
: I'd reduce Sylas' Healing to 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 (+ 25% AP) from it's current 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 / 140 (+ 45% AP). That should fix his biggest problem right now.
> [{quoted}](name=Warlord Rhinark,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PE0pjWze,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-12T07:54:18.137+0000) > > I'd reduce Sylas' Healing to 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 / 100 (+ 25% AP) from it's current 60 / 80 / 100 / 120 / 140 (+ 45% AP). > > That should fix his biggest problem right now. Or I was thinking you could only make it increased by half at 40% instead of doubled. Dunno why the damage only increased by half but the heal is doubled.
: His healing is overpowered. Thats really it.
> [{quoted}](name=Chibi Templar,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PE0pjWze,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-12T01:27:30.810+0000) > > His healing is overpowered. Thats really it. What would you do with it? Move more of it into shield or just lower it?
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: His healing is absurd
> [{quoted}](name=JuiceBoxP,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=PE0pjWze,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-11T23:58:31.785+0000) > > His healing is absurd Yeah. I’ve played him top and the enemy Irelia always grabs a Executioners because it’s like I’m playing with Heal in a 10 second CD.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2RpBjyju,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-11T03:01:02.709+0000) > > gonna need that last one animated into her stealth https://imgur.com/a/zFUtMYE
> [{quoted}](name=Super VilIain,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=2RpBjyju,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-03-11T03:22:58.539+0000) > > https://imgur.com/a/zFUtMYE http://puu.sh/CYdX9/c71e4b13f9.gif http://puu.sh/CYdZm/3d55153070.gif
: Don't worry girl....we feel left out too.....
gonna need that last one animated into her stealth
: guys with feet like this have a 125% Chance of stealing your girl
WARWICK YOU BITCH there he goes kidnapping people...
Moody P (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jXTrnToE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-10T17:34:20.458+0000) > > Depends on the cake. I’ve found myself liking sweets less as I get older. Like I can’t eat triple chocolate cake anymore because it just feels too rich. Same but for cheesecake. I've never liked birthday cake though.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jXTrnToE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-10T17:43:10.137+0000) > > Same but for cheesecake. > > I've never liked birthday cake though. I liked it because it was sugar and I could have it. But now that I have the power to waste my own money... cinnamon rolls 4 lyfe
Moody P (NA)
: Do people actually enjoy eating cake or is it just a formality?
Depends on the cake. I’ve found myself liking sweets less as I get older. Like I can’t eat triple chocolate cake anymore because it just feels too rich.
drash79 (NA)
: At lvl 5 Neeko has a stronger on-hit passive than Jax.
Ivern beats all of em. Yeah it sounds dumb when you compare champs. They are different champs. It might be that Neeko is too oppressive against melees. Don’t use other champs as a comparison to try and prove that.
Rioter Comments
Søøt (NA)
: Well, I edited her quite a bit. More like rebuilt her from the ground up, but I'm very grateful for your opinions and feedback. Helped a lot, thank you. And feel free to read her new kit. Hopefully it's better. XD
> [{quoted}](name=Søøt,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5viL0mqO,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-03-09T21:53:35.612+0000) > > Well, I edited her quite a bit. More like rebuilt her from the ground up, but I'm very grateful for your opinions and feedback. Helped a lot, thank you. And feel free to read her new kit. Hopefully it's better. XD Things I like 1. Upgrading/Repairing wards 2. Trapping Allies I don't think you should directly trap wards. Imagine if Teemo shrooms still exploded if you killed them. Techies in Dota 2 used to do that, and it only made playing melee against them a cancerous experience. What I think you need to expand on. A. Using wards as a key tool instead of how the current game treats them as a consumable. B. More active play around protecting the wards instead of reactive. C. Tools for her to get deep wards. As is she has to use 2 wards to go between Dragon pit wall so she can then place one in the jungle. You have her using a hextech disk. Its probably too close to Viktor, but I'd say give her a unique sightstone that she can upgrade into different styles of wards. She shouldn't be restricted to just Farsight/Green/Pink wards like any other support, but new ones that only she can provide. You want a reason a support picks her instead of just playing Bard with Sightstone.
CLG ear (NA)
: terrible skin
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GEPlRohJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-09T08:12:06.142+0000) > > terrible skin but it was free
Rioter Comments
: make kayles E give her range for the next 3 autos instead of one.
No. She shouldn’t be able to Proc PTA early game out of melee. Or use Hail of Blades.
: Why do mobility abilities overpower disables?
You have to use knock ups for any non-blink spell.
: I understand that on 19th of November we can expect similar post but celebrating men right?
You don’t need to be a child over something as trivial as a Facebook post
: > [{quoted}](name=Ðeath XIII,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=d4Za1wMa,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-08T22:48:14.266+0000) > > Brand having infinite Pillars in lane would be cancer Do you mean the immobile mage having wave clear and pushing would be cancer or the easy to sidestep harass would be oppressive in silver league? haha
> [{quoted}](name=Brony Gaymer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=d4Za1wMa,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-03-08T22:56:43.195+0000) > > Do you mean the immobile mage having wave clear and pushing would be cancer or the easy to sidestep harass would be oppressive in silver league? haha You need boots 2 if he drops it directly on you. Idk why people think its easy to sidestep lol. I mean with that logic just make Morgana energy based lmao
Quáx (NA)
: As a person who played against Kayle all last night...
: Let's make brand energy based
Brand having infinite Pillars in lane would be cancer
Rioter Comments
: Is there a reason that Kayle's rank 1 ult has one of the longest CD's in the game?
Søøt (NA)
: Maz, the Visionary
Doesn’t work. W is too niche, and E/Q doesn’t have enough to compensate. R is basically a worse TF ult. You need to work on the vision mechanics so it isn’t just Ward Slave 2.0 Rewards for her getting vision, rewards for maintaining vision. In Dota 2 Treant Protector can create wards from trees that also cast his ult when he does. You need more mechanics like that instead of a highly situational Ward dash
: “dOn’T cAlL uS fUcKiNg GrEeDy” - Marc Merrill
Go back to your cave HateDaddy, you just mad you can’t afford a 3 mortgages.
: My issue with Riot making "Prestige" skins in response to massive loss of money they've been making
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