: safe picks for top?
{{champion:150}}
: Do you think LOL would be healthier if it were pay monthly to play?
: Why are the models so ugly?
none of those other moba's are as popular as league so clearly they missed the trick on making their character models able to be rendered on any old 20 year pc.
: I want to ask Riot: Why the most banned champions for years aren't touched?
: How To Counter Yuumi's Q
: Tank fans are NOT asking for more damage - NO TY TO BAMI'S CINDER CHANGES
look man here's the thing about all you guys who say no to the hp buff, aurelion sol post rework had too much hp assigned to him, he was the tankiest thing you could hope to lane against. the data is already in, ya'll saying no just cement to me that this community is idiots and riot shouldn't listen to ya'll. so hopefully they fucking don't anymore, we've already seen akali get demoted to minion status for no fucking reason, ya'll don't want functional tanks and you're gonna keep bitching about dmg but don't want hp buffed? yeah i would rather not bother conversing with such confused people.
: >buff hp Yeaaah, so Vlad/Kass can be S++ tiers, the strongest toplane class(juggs) can keep on destroying toplane and snowball relient champs can go fuck themselves. It would also indirectly buff jnglers influence over game. Great idea. /s
> [{quoted}](name=Jng Account,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kJyVATpe,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2020-02-19T13:44:48.288+0000) > > Yeaaah, so Vlad/Kass can be S++ tiers, the strongest toplane class(juggs) can keep on destroying toplane and snowball relient champs can go fuck themselves. It would also indirectly buff jnglers influence over game. Great idea. /s there are ample items in the game to deal with hp stacking already. you guys want your champions to feel like they aren'd made of paper, guess what, you give them hp.
: so i played league after my 4 day break and this is what happened...
Anu3isII (EUNE)
: More like: "we need buffs in THIS direction" "ok, how about the OTHER direction" "no, we need..." "DONE!" People asked for durability buffs for tanks, not just any buffs. No one plays tanks to burst people while barely taking any damage (besides the fact that it would be busted).
> [{quoted}](name=Anu3isII,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kJyVATpe,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2020-02-19T13:25:27.073+0000) > > More like: > > "we need buffs in THIS direction" > "ok, how about the OTHER direction" > "no, we need..." > "DONE!" > > People asked for durability buffs for tanks, not just any buffs. No one plays tanks to burst people while barely taking any damage (besides the fact this would be busted). no one is asking for durability buffs if no one wants to buff hp.
: Tank fans are NOT asking for more damage - NO TY TO BAMI'S CINDER CHANGES
said it already. buff hp. but ya'll don't want that so rito will give you dmg instead. enjoy.
Yenn (NA)
: Middle being the only role with consistent agency turns climbing mid elo into a shit show
i just go top and try to leave the lane legendary. generally works.
: Lack of MR, am I missing something?
it is this way because magic damage required agency some time back in s4 or 5, or whenever the fuck that mage class rework was, followed shortly by the tank class rework. or maybe i got those events backwards. either way, they worked in tandem to reduce MR itemisation and place AP items into a state of uncounterability if you build correctly. the reason that armor items are abundant is because different solutions were required to slow down adc's and assassins, because their dmg doesn't get delivered in the same way. whereas an AP mage or assassin or bruiser is using their abilities all the same way to do the dmg. so riot cooked this state of affairs up and whenever anyone mentions that MR itemisation is poor they get shushed down by all the mage players.
BoDeGaX (EUW)
: How to lose less Lp?
mmr has you covered. if you get feeders in your team they'll have lower mmr on account of doing that thing they do, so when you lose you'll already lose less lp than you should have. that aside enemy team get's feeders all the time too.
: Your Current Ban and Why
top: darius, terrible design. jungle: lee sin, team always feeds him. mid: syndra, too easy to play. bottom: cait, don't have time to play against someone from their own turret. support: morgana, i want to play the actual game you know.
: You have just proven you are beyond redemption, Riot
just stop being trash at the game. season has just started. you'll climb just fine if you're actually meant to.
Kowpatty (NA)
: Is ARURF Really gone?
blood moon time.
SirHydro (NA)
: So now we can't upvote or downvote topics?
terror, now you lot actually have to show us your accounts when you want to disagree with an OP.
Eybdoog (NA)
: There’s a reason why a brain dead melee champion is being picked in pro play and it’s because he’s busted. When are you going to grasp that?
> [{quoted}](name=Eybdoog,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LJAJaK92,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2020-02-18T18:49:07.345+0000) > > There’s a reason why a brain dead melee champion is being picked in pro play and it’s because he’s busted. When are you going to grasp that? aatrox get's picked, he's not broken he's actually weak. same for braum. same for akali. same for yasuo. sundry sett has an overloaded kit, a littany of numbers which all interact with each other have to be nerfed on him for any meaningful nerf to occur and when that nerf does tick over the champion will become wholly unserviceable even in soloq setting. you don't have to believe me now. you can just watch and learn i guess. :/ is he broken? no, he's already easily beatable by various things, but that isn't stopping people from picking aatrox for example even though the champ is a meme for over 6 months now. same for akali but she's less at 4 months now. so on so forth i don't know why the boards thinks pointing to the pros makes their point for them regarding champion viability. different attributes are being selected for. in sett's case it's his surviveability, can't kill him easily if both parties are playing like it matters. he is otherwise set to be dismantled by rito james in due time, and what's left won't be pretty due to power budget constraints present on the champion already. but as ever, you can just watch and see it happen instead of believing me. time scale is 5 months. failing that it will be 10 months just in time for the new music group skins.
: Voting has been disabled. What now?
now we get to actually see the truth rise.
: Where did the upvotes/downvotes for posts go?
HA, now these pathetic's have to actually formulate an opinion in order to communicate they don't like a thread. SUFFER! now we get to find real progress.
: What nasty players this game has srsly.
that person is just at their peak elo and they're upset about it. nothing new.
VvVVvV (NA)
: Why Do People Think Going 14-12 Is Carrying?
what's the context of the game? if that's a solo melee because allied team went all ranged, then that is a carry. likewise if allied team were simply too scared to ever make a macro play while some solo had to permanently 1vX then yeah, that's probably a carry. how many assists did that person have? 14/12/? that assists number should be very high if ya'll want to represent yourselves here, ergo you should have lots of kills off of that persons honor to use their health bar as a resource. i mean where is allied team to fill out the assists, that person must have handed you so many layups that you missed. i would be frustrated myself tbfh. look at the backbreaking shit i am pulling out to try and win this game while ya'll be watching from the side lines too scared to even push waves, they gotta come to you innit. how disgusting that you now post about it here, 2/7, like this motherfucker is affecting the game in any meaningful way, too scared to play, you should ff today.
: Worst Community Ever
everything pre-lvl 30 is unplayable btw. if I were I would spam arams lol, much less leavers and flamers. when you hit 30 then you can actually play some real league of legends.
: Sett's design is good. It's simple and I like that. Stat-wise, he is currently busted. He doesn't need anything removed from his kit, he just needs some numbers toned down.
> [{quoted}](name=EvilUnicornLord,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LJAJaK92,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-18T03:19:44.407+0000) > > Sett's design is good. It's simple and I like that. > > Stat-wise, he is currently busted. He doesn't need anything removed from his kit, he just needs some numbers toned down. he can't get his numbers turned down, they have to be high for him to function. are the boards ever going to grasp that though.
: If no one liked it, LOL wouldnt be that popular to begin with, Old seasons are the reason why LoL go to be one of the most played games
> [{quoted}](name=Hot Belly Dancer,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=suAfMvRZ,comment-id=000100010000000000000001,timestamp=2020-02-15T12:45:18.530+0000) > > If no one liked it, LOL wouldnt be that popular to begin with, Old seasons are the reason why LoL go to be one of the most played games last season is most popular season by this metric.
: What's the difference between the players in my rank vs inters?
: or in other words, it only works if you are next to a wall? that's more a gimmick than an assassin trait. She does the same thing just by attacking you in the open
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ILEIrPL7,comment-id=000f000000000000,timestamp=2020-02-16T15:43:56.111+0000) > > or in other words, it only works if you are next to a wall? that's more a gimmick than an assassin trait. She does the same thing just by attacking you in the open so when people, including you, post about qiyana's ult i'm gonna point out to you that it's a gimmick and not a part of executing the champion correctly. yes? yes. that's what i'll do. don't wanna hear a lick about it from here.
: > [{quoted}](name=2gudaiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnB0ERvp,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2020-02-16T12:52:14.977+0000) > > this is a historical context thread dude. > the thing doesn't work the way it used to, why is that, is what the thread is asking. > i have told you why. > because full AD teams experienced a harder lockout than they do now. > and that didn't help sales of yasuo and zed skins. > while at the same time making meta staples into unstaples like darius and cait and probably ez pending the build. > > matter of fact corki was reprofiled to the magic dmg adc in the midst of all that as a bandaid solution to the full AD conundrum. > it worked for him then, but as ever things changed and he's now whatever meme he is. I mean I see plenty of pro teams doing double adc comps or having their only ap be in the jungle. You can't get tanky enough for it to matter anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnB0ERvp,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2020-02-16T20:39:25.366+0000) > > I mean I see plenty of pro teams doing double adc comps or having their only ap be in the jungle. You can't get tanky enough for it to matter anyway. yes, they do that now because the item effect the op is asking about was removed, he asked why it was removed, i answered why. i am telling you why it was removed. seeing as you're seeing double adc comps in the pro's i guess the item shift worked as i stated but with unintended consequences for rito, nothing new here. can't run double adc comps when enemy team can pick malphite on the pro stage and stack armor and watch folks kill themselves by attacking like some masochistic voyeur. ISN'T THAT SHOCKING!!! WOWOWOWOWW!!!
Xerofir (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=2gudaiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z7GP2M3V,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2020-02-16T22:15:15.472+0000) > > i read something about toning down dmg, so, just buff base hp. > jesus man if everyone is gonna just moan about balance and the dmg monster just give every champion +100hp at lvl1 and take it from there. > "but mah botrk and liandries and hp scalings" > stfu at least the resistances will be useful with more hp for people to have to chew through. > all other solutions are half measures. > morello would have done this already, ya'll woulda bitched about it too. Uhm I am not entirely sure if I understand you correctly, but according to you that would help Health-Damage dealers (Ornn, Shen, Mordekaiser etc.) too much and it still wouldn't balance the game. The issue around Mage-items being a lot more Gold-efficient but there is a lot less Magic resist in the game would not be solved. Your measure would hereby also be considered a "half measure". That is why I propose this form of "ground-up" balancing. I appreciate your input and please don't hesitate to inquire any further. ^^
> [{quoted}](name=Xerofir,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z7GP2M3V,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2020-02-17T18:29:08.574+0000) > > Uhm I am not entirely sure if I understand you correctly, but according to you that would help Health-Damage dealers (Ornn, Shen, Mordekaiser etc.) too much and it still wouldn't balance the game. > The issue around Mage-items being a lot more Gold-efficient but there is a lot less Magic resist in the game would not be solved. > Your measure would hereby also be considered a "half measure". That is why I propose this form of "ground-up" balancing. > > I appreciate your input and please don't hesitate to inquire any further. ^^ like i said, buff hp across the board and balance from there. not like it hasn't been done before with class and item reworks.
: Change my View: Riot has no business making more games with how bad they are at balancing this one
Xerofir (EUW)
: Lets Balance
i read something about toning down dmg, so, just buff base hp. jesus man if everyone is gonna just moan about balance and the dmg monster just give every champion +100hp at lvl1 and take it from there. "but mah botrk and liandries and hp scalings" stfu at least the resistances will be useful with more hp for people to have to chew through. all other solutions are half measures. morello would have done this already, ya'll woulda bitched about it too.
: I also think it's the entitlement and lack of understanding. Say someone finishes Gold, he now starts in Silver, he feels entitled to be able to get back to Gold because that's where he was last season, BUT, he also fails to understand that all the other Gold players also started this season in Silver, so for a good part of the season he will play with pretty much the same type of opponents he had when he was in Gold, hence the feeling of hardstuck lower than where you were before.
> [{quoted}](name=IP Masquerena,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vpuxh9zj,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2020-02-16T17:55:32.913+0000) > > I also think it's the entitlement and lack of understanding. > > Say someone finishes Gold, he now starts in Silver, he feels entitled to be able to get back to Gold because that's where he was last season, BUT, he also fails to understand that all the other Gold players also started this season in Silver, so for a good part of the season he will play with pretty much the same type of opponents he had when he was in Gold, hence the feeling of hardstuck lower than where you were before. i don't really care about this in macro i guess, cause i just assume i'll accomplish my climb anyway. but for private frustrations my smurf has been placed in bronze yet it get's matched with gold placed players, though that was only for 2 games and i got to skip a division so far. main was placed in high silver so i don't really care to play it just yet outside of maintaining some amount of essence economy. did get placed in a plat/dia game (silver placed main) somewhere along the line but won that anyway so i don't consider it all that much in macro :/ this likely occurs across the board. the matchmaking works, it feels terrible, the matchmaking doesn't work, it feels good, the two get conflated. but ofc there are genuine instances of matchmaking gaffs in there too but they're only noted when it isn't in my favor, you see.
: So, I require proof
the thing people are complaining about is that the system places them one standard deviation lower than they finished last season. and now they have anxiety tihnking they won't complete the climb or something. it's generally a lot of noise not worth hearing.
: Why is Sylas Seen as Evil?
it's all a matter of...perspective. to demacia he is a villain. they required an internal villain figure instead of all their villains being noxus
Warmas (EUW)
: Hot champs get to be broken
i have this explained better. you can't say "hot" that doesn't translate for all age groups. a champion has to be able to model an aesthetic. > you got it wrong, they are transitioning the platform to a cosmetic delivery vehicle, doubling up as advertisement slots for any buyer's. we shall see just how worthwhile this LV hookup was when they make another link with someone. > LV, rather than getting a league team to win the world championship, got skin slots by buying them from rito. what does that mean for balance? design direction? creativity? probably nothing in the grand scheme cause rito have a full roster to make use of and they've been doing this skins thing forever with their own ideas. but senna for instance, she got a LV skin just come out, couldn't be meaningfully nerfed before that. ekko probably also got a prestige ting coming cause it's just an obvious thing to do as far as I'm concerned, he's not gonna get nerfed in a way that matters till then, maybe LV will be stacking racks on that too. and then they'll count the money and tell their friends and this will be the new league, only pretty champions that can model an aesthetic will get to be strong. > now we wait to see the obvious boyband variant for KDA at the end of the year, probably with an ekko hookup because he's the most popular from the true dmg thing. sett, aphelios, ekko, maybe Lee sin or sylas, and some other new champion. or two as yet to be new champions instead of Lee or sylas. I mean fuck it rito have worked thermself to here, they got flexibility now. I mean shit they could even rework xin and put him in the boyband, I bet that shit prints money in China.
: > [{quoted}](name=2gudaiya,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnB0ERvp,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-16T11:01:16.257+0000) > > because it worked too well with tabi's and randuin's, and the zed and yasuo main's didn't like that they actually had to think about where to insert their champion into teamcomps. > so that got removed. As if you see zed and yasuo every game? What? I mean I guess yasuo is pretty popular but its not like its a good pick into every game, and especially not zed. The thing that it counters that actually is in every game is a class neither are apart of.
> [{quoted}](name=vgamedude,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=TnB0ERvp,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2020-02-16T11:08:44.599+0000) > > As if you see zed and yasuo every game? What? I mean I guess yasuo is pretty popular but its not like its a good pick into every game, and especially not zed. The thing that it counters that actually is in every game is a class neither are apart of. this is a historical context thread dude. the thing doesn't work the way it used to, why is that, is what the thread is asking. i have told you why. because full AD teams experienced a harder lockout than they do now. and that didn't help sales of yasuo and zed skins. while at the same time making meta staples into unstaples like darius and cait and probably ez pending the build. matter of fact corki was reprofiled to the magic dmg adc in the midst of all that as a bandaid solution to the full AD conundrum. it worked for him then, but as ever things changed and he's now whatever meme he is.
: So..Why did Thornmail ever lose the % damage redirection?
because it worked too well with tabi's and randuin's, and the zed and yasuo main's didn't like that they actually had to think about where to insert their champion into teamcomps. so that got removed.
Jorski (NA)
: Can Ekko Receive Some PROPER Nerfs Please?
> [{quoted}](name=KnightLakega,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=l5Z5lzKr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2020-02-16T10:37:43.311+0000) > > Agreed Ekko exists, yet lets all shit on akali, despite akali having half her kit be 30 second CD's... "but but stealth!" ffs... Meanwhile ekko has so much survivability, sustainability, burst, and "oops" buttons, movement speed steroids, dashes, holy fuck what does this %%%%% not have... did you know that when ekko was in development gypsylord had the insane idea of his ult being his W? i haven't been able to find out what his existing ult would have been at that time of alpha testing but just imagine. gypsy said it was the most broken thing they'd ever made.
: wait elise counts as assassin now? i didnt see one in a while so idk.
> [{quoted}](name=JustA kleo,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ILEIrPL7,comment-id=0012,timestamp=2020-02-16T03:53:06.857+0000) > > wait elise counts as assassin now? > i didnt see one in a while so idk. no she does not, she's a bruiser/fighter if we go all the way classic with it.
: These are burst mages {{champion:103}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:7}} This is a bursty AP bruiser {{champion:131}}
> [{quoted}](name=Worst JG Wins,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ILEIrPL7,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2020-02-16T10:29:42.841+0000) > > These are burst mages > > {{champion:103}} {{champion:7}} they're also assassins.
: vayne's not part assassin, she is just a hypercarry...which can be way worse {{champion:133}} is a real example of a hybrid marksman/assassin
> [{quoted}](name=3TWarrior,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ILEIrPL7,comment-id=000f0000,timestamp=2020-02-16T03:40:51.148+0000) > > vayne's not part assassin, she is just a hypercarry...which can be way worse > > {{champion:133}} is a real example of a hybrid marksman/assassin vayne is part assassin. her combo opens up with E, then she 3/2 shots you while you're stunned to a wall. that's her assassin combo for squishies.
: Quit releasing champions in an OP state and taking really long to nerf them
they do this so that propsective players have a chance to learn the champion, also so that the champion doesn't fail when the pilot does everything right. so get over it. ffs god i hate this community. none of those champions are even difficult to play against ffs. and the boards was praising sett's design for a month straight, i am not hearing any of you now complaining about him, you missed that chance.
Jorski (NA)
: Can Ekko Receive Some PROPER Nerfs Please?
can't happen till the new k-pop boyband launches at the end of the year. ya'll asked for ekko to be like this anyway so i have no sympathy. suffer silently, thanks, while ya'll juggle 30 bans between yourselves.
: The only deciding factor b/w iron-gold games is which team has the more efficient troll(s)
i think ya'll in gold this season are even worse than last season. my smurf just placed bronze 3 but i'm already getting matched with gold players. and they all suck, i'm best performer. what a shocker.
: Name one thing i love in LoL.
1. the skins. yes you bought them.
: What happend after you spend RP.
my smurf is on a hot streak with no money spent.
: Fuck your rigged matches
no no, the posers on the boards wanted to find out what happened when they had to deal with smurfs climbing in their games. now they know. there's also those who get upset that the boards smurf has no rank so no problem, I'll boost my own smurf to higher than silver 2 to satisfy homeboy who can't talk balance but can definitely talk rank. ya'll get yourselves into this trouble btw, once again I say if people could just stick to actually discussing balance then I wouldn't have to smurf on them. but now I must validate my smurf, because my main is banned on the boards till 2120, what a shame, heads will roll.
: Pre calling it. Support Sona is going to be near unplayable in 10.4
: I was a support and I let my adc die. I'm a failure an deserve shame.
you are beautiful friend, because you are still alive.
: We should bring back politics to this forum
people aren't ready to approach the politics objectively. i read the news i listen to people talk i decide they are insane this board will be no different and as ever you aren't allowed to bring up whatever tripe people posted in the past. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
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