: > [{quoted}](name=LegitBusinessman,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RVTrHNGX,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-12-12T15:37:57.712+0000) > > Its almost as if ignoring a significant part of the rock paper scissors aspect of your game for 3 years is like... not good or something. It's been longer since they released a Jungler. edit: also Sett is a tank
> [{quoted}](name=Worst JG Wins,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RVTrHNGX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-12-12T18:25:25.671+0000) > > It's been longer since they released a Jungler. > > edit: also Sett is a tank no. im pretty sure he is a fighter or bruiser
: > [{quoted}](name=Thingamajig,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RVTrHNGX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-12-12T15:57:40.170+0000) > > because the moment a tank is viable people cry a fucking river about it > > hashinshin for example has been bitching and moaning for over 6 months that tanks are trash > in the last 2-3 weeks he has been bitching and moaning about every tank he encounters poppu ornn mao etc > > tanks and tank meta is the best part of the game because they extend the game and action > it's not about who throws the first punch > it's about who navigates the fight and game properly > and that kind of gameplay doesn't adhere to the adhd demographic of the player base I mean, hes right, only because the champs that are supposed to counter tanks (juggernauts/bruisers) are shells of what they used to be vs tanks, and the items are way overpriced, comepared to most ap champs where its way too easy to kill tanks. The problem is armor is too good and theres not enough good armor pen/shred on kits or items that are cost efficiant, while on the flipside mr barely works and magic pen is abundant and aids. Its not bitching if he knows what hes talking about, while i do agree sometimes he goes off the rails, he says some good points.
> [{quoted}](name=Exodus247,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RVTrHNGX,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-12-12T16:25:21.970+0000) > > I mean, hes right, only because the champs that are supposed to counter tanks (juggernauts/bruisers) are shells of what they used to be vs tanks, and the items are way overpriced, comepared to most ap champs where its way too easy to kill tanks. The problem is armor is too good and theres not enough good armor pen/shred on kits or items that are cost efficiant, while on the flipside mr barely works and magic pen is abundant and aids. Its not bitching if he knows what hes talking about, while i do agree sometimes he goes off the rails, he says some good points. idk about that one chief unless you are Malphite or Rammus id rather be facing full AP teams over AD ones any day of the week
: Aphelios' permaslow and old Riot design principles.
> [{quoted}](name=GelsominoKiller,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U5GfJKlU,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-11-30T00:44:13.159+0000) > > Disclaimer: this post is not meant to be a complaint to Aphelios in any way. > > I have noticed Aphelios' cannon weapon, Gravitum, has an innate on its basic attacks: they apply a 30% decaying slow. > > This is effectively a free permaslow on a ranged carry. > > If you played this game at least as long as I did, you'll remember the sad story of league of legends permaslows: a mechanic that was deemed extremely powerful and costed many champions their viability for **years**. > > We're talking about Skarner, Olaf, Ashe and Frozen Mallet. Every one of them had their fair share of changes and reworks, often revolving around **the power budget and the innate toxicity that a permaslow entails**. > > At the time of the juggernaut rework, I remember that the main point of friction between Rioters and Skarner community was his permaslow. At the time, Riot was **adamant** in removing Skarner's permaslow, indicating it as the main reason Skarner had to be made into a non-champion for so long. > > Apparently, permaslow on a melee juggernaut was unthinkable for old Riot; new Riot slaps a permaslow on (an overloaded) ranged carry without a thought. > > Times have changed, but for the better? I think that the design and balance team have sacrificed important design principles like "power budget and fairness" on the altar of "flashy and sensational". uh ashe still has her permaslow xD
: >The support role has been thrown out of balance ever since they first introduced the support items to the game all those years ago. Saying this you make it sound as if Supps were balanced on season 1/2/3 when they didn't had Supp items and were ward dispensers with no gold. The unbalance comes from having a role with no gold income. That's the root. Supp items are a tool for Riot to solve the problem, not the problem itself.
> [{quoted}](name=Sir Saltarin,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Osh22WzA,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-25T00:02:44.656+0000) > > Saying this you make it sound as if Supps were balanced on season 1/2/3 when they didn't had Supp items and were ward dispensers with no gold. > > The unbalance comes from having a role with no gold income. That's the root. > > Supp items are a tool for Riot to solve the problem, not the problem itself. i mean Alistar was amazing back in S1/2/3 i guess il go back to playing him since he literally requires 0 items to do anything well as a support... i mean really i always went mobi boots sightstone and wards as my other 4 items and guess what i made the rift light up like a christmas tree
Rioter Comments
: GAREN TRINITY ONE SHOT SILENCE
: Garen is fn busted
> [{quoted}](name=funkdubious2,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QY6L2UTs,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-10-17T00:56:12.484+0000) > > Good job Riot Balance Team... > > if you consider how you have buffed Khazix, Garen, Akali and various other fn busted champs, you all clearly just have no clue what you're doing. i find it funny how he became busted the moment he could use Conq lol
: Neeko Mains: Is Prestige SG Neeko worth it over the regular skin?
il be honest here i dont think ANY prestige skin is worth it... its honestly just a glorified chroma right?
: Well, there's literally every time Nautilus or Mundo have been picked...
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IUssF4MZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-21T23:28:24.662+0000) > > Well, there's literally every time Nautilus or Mundo have been picked... hmm every time i pick mundo enemy team picks {{champion:67}} or {{champion:145}} and i may as well not exist...
: It's hard to turn Zoe's lead into a win
> [{quoted}](name=AquariusGine,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RF8XkH1E,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-19T23:21:32.090+0000) > > Got any tips? The problem is this meta.. it's just mindless fighting 5v5 all or nothing. Zoe relies on a lucky shot in order to be of any use, she sucks are 5v5 teamfights, and people in silver/ gold elo just don't have the patience to play around her. > > {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} id say go glacial augment and build {{item:3030}} and {{item:3905}} she doesnt really have the damage she used to in order to carry unless you have a HUGE lead its better to play her as a supportish playstyle while trying to catch people out with your bubble
: I don’t see a universe where Pyke is ever reasonable. He will always be too safe.
i mean... you could just make it so if Pyke Es away from a champion and it doesnt go through anyone on the first half it doesnt stun <_<
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: CertainlyT left league btw
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hJmRBsZH,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-09-17T18:47:14.758+0000) > > https://twitter.com/Spideraxe30/status/1173406113020227585?s=20 > > This surprised me, I guess the boards will burst in joy until they remember that he wasn't responsible for {{champion:517}} {{champion:246}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:350}} {{champion:266}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:145}} > > {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-popcorn}} yea but.... {{champion:84}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:142}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:157}}.....
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Trist mid opop,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7odXPPoU,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-09T13:08:41.489+0000) > > U want aftershock or guardian garen? Go ahead Sorry but you are plain trolling. Aftershock is a Keystone that get's it's effects triggered when using heavy CC. Garen only has light CC silence and that doesn't proc it, only stuns, roots and displacements do. Unless you are planning to spam the crap out of blast cones(which actuall proc aftershock), it's still a troll keystone on Garen. Guardian? That's a duo lane keystone that get's triggered when you shield an ally and cannot be procced on self cast, not to mention Garen has NO way of shielding allies unless he buys an inferior tanky item such as {{item:3190}} What is this terrible comedy?!
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7odXPPoU,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-09T13:23:26.987+0000) > > Sorry but you are plain trolling. > > Aftershock is a Keystone that get's it's effects triggered when using heavy CC. Garen only has light CC silence and that doesn't proc it, only stuns, roots and displacements do. Unless you are planning to spam the crap out of blast cones(which actuall proc aftershock), it's still a troll keystone on Garen. > Guardian? That's a duo lane keystone that get's triggered when you shield an ally and cannot be procced on self cast, not to mention Garen has NO way of shielding allies unless he buys an inferior tanky item such as {{item:3190}} > > What is this terrible comedy?! i see you do not understand his sarcasm... aka Grasp is basically the only keystone that works on him well its that or predator
Hordes66 (NA)
: Champions with high pick rates maintain high win rates if they're easy to play and op.
> [{quoted}](name=Hordes66,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wTxc1nT5,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-07T17:42:20.935+0000) > > Champions with high pick rates maintain high win rates if they're easy to play and op. less so on the OP more on the extremely safe if you cant die the enemy cant snowball :D
: > [{quoted}](name=3ternalkarma,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dZEdHX7n,comment-id=0003000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-16T01:30:26.679+0000) > > {{champion:30}} ? that's his passive. revive was a summoner spell that would stop the death timer in your base. nobody used that spell.
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeAxel123,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dZEdHX7n,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-16T04:29:33.078+0000) > > that's his passive. revive was a summoner spell that would stop the death timer in your base. nobody used that spell. TP revive karthus was a thing
: > [{quoted}](name=Hot LeBlanc Yuri,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dZEdHX7n,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-08-15T15:58:03.393+0000) > > Agree on the QSS, because fuck Zed. But reviving is a cancer mechanic revive has extremely long cooldown and nobody used it. unless you played inting rammus and wanted to break world record in most deaths
> [{quoted}](name=CallMeAxel123,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dZEdHX7n,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2019-08-15T16:02:05.330+0000) > > revive has extremely long cooldown and nobody used it. > unless you played inting rammus and wanted to break world record in most deaths {{champion:30}} ?
: Font of Life is underwhelming, even if you hit 5000 HP all it'll heal is 55 over 1.75 seconds
> [{quoted}](name=MemeLeague33570,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OBbWs58k,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-07T16:17:39.301+0000) > > 5 + 1% Maximum HP over the course of 1.75 seconds isnt at all good. You think you could maybe remove the self exclusion and at least let the user get someuse out of it too? just use it as a support champion like i do say soraka sure it wont heal much HOWEVER it does proc ardent
HornToad (NA)
: New Mordekaiser needs nerf
1. eh when i see enemy team pick morde i just pick {{champion:41}} or{{champion:43}} top Orange out of his ult or fight him in his ult as Karma since no way is a Morde killing a tank karma
Scrai (EUW)
: Nerf master yi
> [{quoted}](name=Scrai,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=g4M49snY,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-01-07T14:08:28.567+0000) > > he can solo baron with > blood razer > gunisoos > and death dance > unbalanced > > baron is a team objective not 1 vs 1 > > guinsoos is procking his passive the reason why he can easily do baron is because of the 3rd item {{item:3812}} it heals from his true damage and lowers damage he takes from baron
: Lux Mains right now...
> [{quoted}](name=taleofsonata,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=3Mm80Ket,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-01T23:00:42.718+0000) > > *Patch notes Lux is getting nerfed in 9.14* > > Lux Mains: WHAT THEY ARE NERFING MY CHAMPION? I'VE BEEN PLAYING THIS CHAMPION FOR OVER A MONTH AND I DON'T THINK SHE NEEDS NERF, CHAMPIONS THAT NEED NERFS ARE PYKE AND CHAMPION THAT CAN HOOK ME. > > Lux Mains: Oh I know, let me put the blame on aftershock. > > AFTERSHOCK IS BROKEN ON RANGED CHAMPIONS! > > Lux is not the problem its AFTERSHOCK! > > Kappa... but the problem is aftershock lol its the only reason why she is so strong support Aftershock broke {{champion:127}} and {{champion:13}} and go figure squishy mages that can proc aftershock are opressive because they are no longer squish... just remove aftershock from ranged champions and make thresh/Rakan melee or something so they can use it
: Yuumi is obscenely unfun to play against
just do what i do when vs a yuumi play blitz or leona all in lvl 2 and win lane
: In all my years of frusteration and enduring aids in the top lane, NOTHING compares to Tahm Kench.
: Can champion hitboxes be prioritized over minions when they overlap?
pretty sure there is an option that targets champions only i could be wrong though... although i do know how you feel iv done the same
: 🦀SHITTY DEATH RECAP IS GONE🦀
now if only they can fix the crappy purple camera angle
: I love how no matter what, it’s never tops fault. You fed the illaoi 3 kills before my first clear? “God, worthless jungler never ganks” You got caught out warding after I told you enemy jungler was top side? “God why is my jungler non existent” I swear to god I only get this shit from top lane.
> [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=n8156Ezx,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-20T01:04:25.333+0000) > > I love how no matter what, it’s never tops fault. > > You fed the illaoi 3 kills before my first clear? “God, worthless jungler never ganks” > > You got caught out warding after I told you enemy jungler was top side? “God why is my jungler non existent” > > I swear to god I only get this shit from top lane. to be fair top is a snowball lane... and i mean it snowballs hard lol if they even get a single advantage the other laner is done unless they get help otherwise they get dove or become like 3+ levels down and a huge cs difference
: Good thing it's not off-meta, it's trolling. Crazy how many people like to throw the terms around without actually knowing what they mean.
> [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=APXQdMyT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-15T15:26:22.178+0000) > > Good thing it's not off-meta, it's trolling. > > Crazy how many people like to throw the terms around without actually knowing what they mean. but its not trolling if hes actually trying to win.... i mean hes trying harder than the guy sitting afk in base right?
Cloud273 (NA)
: Lux is literally broken...please fix this Riot
> [{quoted}](name=Cloud273,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2MRe3GJ1,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-14T22:52:00.727+0000) > > The numbers don't lie. If you look on op.gg she's in the top 5 for highest played champs in literally every division. And despite her insanely high play rate she has AT LEAST a 51% win rate in literally every division. For a while I thought people were just playing bad against her, but when she's performing this well everywhere she's played you know something's wrong. > > https://na.op.gg/statistics/champion/ she will always perform well because of the simple fact she is safe: safe = not feeding: not feeding = no snowballing
: Lux has high pickrate and high winrate in all elos
> [{quoted}](name=Heko The Man,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NAnO3y04,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-10T17:34:04.094+0000) > > Maybe do something about her Q cooldown so she can actually get punished for missing it? > Also she is like karthus but with much lower cooldowns, if your low hp in any lane u die if enemy has lux or... just make aftershock Melee only problem solved :)
: Who would win: a selection of champions specifically designed for the support role
just make aftershock melee only at this point ffs its not that hard
: Everyone seems to forget old akali was a stat check post 6 stomp
> [{quoted}](name=MyBackFlipFailed,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4fMZ9AMI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-26T21:02:26.557+0000) > > Everyone seems to forget old akali was a stat check post 6 stomp but isnt new akali a stat check from level 1?
SS1986 (NA)
: So were nerfing yi for low elo but amumu has a better winrate at every elo and is easier to play
of course amumu has a higher winrate than Yi that makes alot of sense if you think about it he has one of the best teamfight ultimates in the game along with a stun and is tanky and does enough damage where you cant ignore him
: Lethality is riot's way of giving AD assassins true damage against squishy champs. True damage is one of those things you have to be really careful with. I think the other half of the problem is that {{item:3157}} is a terrible rush item for mages. It's got no CDR and no mana help so even if you rush it to survive the lane, it's not doing a whole lot for you to help win it.
> [{quoted}](name=Linna Excel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=859czFu7,comment-id=00010005,timestamp=2019-05-29T16:38:27.321+0000) > > Lethality is riot's way of giving AD assassins true damage against squishy champs. True damage is one of those things you have to be really careful with. I think the other half of the problem is that {{item:3157}} is a terrible rush item for mages. It's got no CDR and no mana help so even if you rush it to survive the lane, it's not doing a whole lot for you to help win it. uh.... it gives 10 cdr........ but as you said it doesnt help mana sustain when most ad mids are pretty much manaless now as for getting mages out of bot lane the answer is pretty simple imho {{item:3303}} <------- REMOVE IT
: > [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ex5GkUOV,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-24T03:00:24.828+0000) > > I wasn't impressed with the trailer. Those monsters are just reskinned models/rigs from the other monsters in the base game with minor changes here and there, and I expect they're probably going to charge $40 for it. More importantly, it's all meaningless if they don't do anything about 'end game' which is basically just farming nonstop for the .01% of getting the gem you need. This. The new content just looks like a re-skin of what we have already seen. The game turns into nonstop farming very quickly. It gets so boring.
> [{quoted}](name=SammyDayspring,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=ex5GkUOV,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-24T03:06:50.450+0000) > > This. The new content just looks like a re-skin of what we have already seen. The game turns into nonstop farming very quickly. It gets so boring. are you new to these kinds of games? thats literally how Monster hunter works....
: > [{quoted}](name=The Ecdysiast,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=njk32rpo,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2019-05-19T05:04:37.724+0000) > > ...? > > None of those games show that your allies were at fault. In most of them, you made the mistake of picking a weak healer with no engage tools and the weakest disengage tool among all enchanters first-pick, resulting in your team getting out-comped. I like when I FP Yuumi and my ADC locks an immobile champ and top and jungle go squishy champions. > The reality is that Yuumi is severely lacking. And my stance on it is that they didn't realize they made her stats so low that she's basically guaranteed to die if the person she's attached to dies. That kind of character should be as far away from the fight as possible, not right in the thick of it. Did you forget she got hotfix buffed or something? Yuumi is good.
> [{quoted}](name=ChickenWrap,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=njk32rpo,comment-id=0003000100000000,timestamp=2019-05-19T05:05:49.504+0000) > > I like when I FP Yuumi and my ADC locks an immobile champ and top and jungle go squishy champions. > > Did you forget she got hotfix buffed or something? Yuumi is good. doesn't matter if she was buffed or not problem is she is HORRIBLE in soloQ there is not enough team coordination for her to ever be good compared to a champ like Brand or Sona who dont require the team to play around them
BayoNX19 (NA)
: If you don't declare intent and someone bans the champion you "wanted", you're the only one at fault
because if people dont want to play with the champion you want to play they ban it :) why i never delcare intent
: e? you mean her shunpo? i thought that had like an 8 second cooldown at max rank. unless you or someone else already died.
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nrRPp2cQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-15T03:53:45.489+0000) > > e? you mean her shunpo? i thought that had like an 8 second cooldown at max rank. unless you or someone else already died. its cooldown gets reset when she picks up a dagger > [{quoted}](name=Dobuzizaurus,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=nrRPp2cQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-15T04:15:50.460+0000) > > Kat is already gated by unreliable mobility and dagger generation/placement. She's the healthiest assassin in the game rn; if they give her mana, they will have to exponentially increase her Q damage to help her waveclear, and I don't think you want that. its not unreliable as she can jump to what she wants and last i checked assassins were supposed to gib one person she gibs the entire team as for her dagger placement its not hard if you know what you are doing her W is a guaranteed dagger where you want it incase you mess up and need a way back out
Rioter Comments
Barkley (NA)
: If you're a tank jungler main, PLAY RANKED RIGHT NOW.
> [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AbuYJIiJ,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-05-12T05:29:29.673+0000) > > With the recent cinderhulk buffs and the buffs to a few of the better tank junglers (sejuani, amumu, and i'm not sure but I think J4 got buffs too) > > It feels SO DAMN GOOD to play a tank jungler right now. Especially since nobody's picking tanks. And then they moved the scuttle spawn to 3 minutes. Omg perfect. You mean I get to clear my whole jungle without worrying about having to stop and contend for a pesky crab? I can just go get it after I full clear? YES PLEASE. > > Seriously though, go spam some tanks -- chances are the enemy team won't have one, and you'll win just off that. That alone will win you the game. > > <3 Tank Meta! BRING ON THE TANKS! wha? when did they buff cinderhulk i dont see it on patch notes
AIQ (NA)
: Vote for Shyvana!
i voted for shyvana because the most viable build for her is her ult E spam as AP not only that is if she is behind she gets no drakes and in the process no passive
: Uh. Just play tanks. Theyre op. Take Mundo, Cho, Malph top. If you dont die early Mundo is capable of straight up 1v9
> [{quoted}](name=ApollyonBainer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jOtV2ge5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-08T21:11:49.760+0000) > > Uh. Just play tanks. Theyre op. Take Mundo, Cho, Malph top. If you dont die early Mundo is capable of straight up 1v9 laughs in {{champion:67}} {{champion:145}}
MagvinCZ (EUNE)
: Nerf Irelia!!
Irelia is like Akali right now high skill cap but is complete cancer to play against a good one so its often banned at least in my experience since they are huge stat checks
Sydelle (NA)
: Most reworks are utter garbage. The only rework I can recall that hasn't sucked is Sion.
Yenn (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YEGLFZ47,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-05-04T06:10:18.849+0000) > > So she can bully any melee not hypermobile and even some of them toplaners of course. Use your brain for once... Hey, maybe you should work out the math on how much permanent movement speed Neeko should have with with Luden's + Sorcerers and get back to us with your results.
> [{quoted}](name=Yenn,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=YEGLFZ47,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-05-04T06:15:45.069+0000) > > Hey, maybe you should work out the math on how much permanent movement speed Neeko should have with with Luden's + Sorcerers and get back to us with your results. she has 385 MS with boots so you probably had a cloud drake?
: hunters potion should not have been removed
Jamaree (NA)
: Dodging the stun and going on the counter attack is the best advice I have against her.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=z9JOxs3s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-26T02:39:49.848+0000) > > Dodging the stun and going on the counter attack is the best advice I have against her. so basically... she doesnt have counterplay unless she messes up woo balance
: Irelia hit 46% wr with 9.6
alright you can buff her. but only after you take away her ability to reset dashes on champions >.>
: Hey bro , if she misses her E . That's your window she's imobile and thats her most reliable cc . But a smart zyra will hold her E until its a guaranteed land. If you want to beat her you need to play around her E cooldown .
> [{quoted}](name=Peel for my ADC,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FdrE7mJX,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-21T11:13:20.207+0000) > > Hey bro , if she misses her E . That's your window she's imobile and thats her most reliable cc . But a smart zyra will hold her E until its a guaranteed land. If you want to beat her you need to play around her E cooldown . or play {{champion:53}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:412}} and hard engage level 2 forcing her to either flash or die THEN the lane should be easy as she should sit back
: How the frig does Urgot ultimate interact with Kindred's?
i mean you can ult her and flash out of her ulti pretty sure she will die then while in her circle anyone is unkillable unless she didnt die when you pulled her out then yes that is a bug
: REMOVE MASTER YI
champions that destroy yi: {{champion:9}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:117}} those four off the top of my head shut him down hard all because they have targeted CC Lulu just ults whoever he Qs to then Ws him while he is knocked up and he usually will die the other champions just cc him and dead except for fiddle but its rather funny to see yi run away full speed
: Or simply nerfing him wont stop low elo from banning him anyway. They will never stop banning him regardless of his state.
> [{quoted}](name=Ragnaveil,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IPJTAbAa,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-19T17:44:25.039+0000) > > Or simply nerfing him wont stop low elo from banning him anyway. They will never stop banning him regardless of his state. so true all because he gives you cancer playing against him he is just so anti-fun to play against
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