Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=4 Gum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=00050001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:24:20.352+0000) > > that's my point tho, bring it to SR I highly doubt they will since they push hard for Classic SR and history has shown that they aren't committed to modes that aren't that. Just ask Dominion fans who were given nothing but false promises and silence for years before Riot decided to scrap the mode due to Riot's willingness to neglect it for Classic SR.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=000500010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T23:41:41.880+0000) > > I highly doubt they will since they push hard for Classic SR and history has shown that they aren't committed to modes that aren't that. Just ask Dominion fans who were given nothing but false promises and silence for years before Riot decided to scrap the mode due to Riot's willingness to neglect it for Classic SR. ya no that's fair, I'm just being wishful :D
Prandine (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=GarfieldxLasagna,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=000500010000,timestamp=2019-07-17T14:32:05.932+0000) > > So you're saying a multi billion dollar corporation can't manage more than like 3 maps? Unfortunately that seems to be the case, though I think that it's less "they can't" and more "they won't", since if it's not Summoner's Rift they don't care.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0005000100000000,timestamp=2019-07-17T22:24:14.294+0000) > > Unfortunately that seems to be the case, though I think that it's less "they can't" and more "they won't", since if it's not Summoner's Rift they don't care. that's my point tho, bring it to SR
: Hell yeah bring it back!!! I loved Dominion in general cause it was a quick game if you didn't have much time to play or were waiting for your friends to finish a normal. And hide and seek was just so much fun. Personally my friends had a no invis champs rule. I would love to be able to play on summoners rift and have maybe a voting system during champ select for match rules in place of bans. Like maybe, no resurrecting allowed, no invis, no healing allies, no speeding up allies, no slowing seekers, no shielding, no exhaust, seeker gets # clairvoyance, each hider gets # clairvoyance. Just kinda throwing things out there. Maybe like 3 rules a match so it's different every time. Definitely would have to add a way for everyone to level. And remove minions/tower aggro. I think it would be cool if it didn't show whether the seeker has done dragon/baron. And make jungle camps unattackable by hiders but still targetable for jumping onto. Would be cool too if hiders made a bit more gold per second than seekers since hiders main goal is survival not kills. Last I think it would be cool to add summoner spells specific to hide and seek. Like maybe a shroud you can cast on yourself or an ally for a brief moment. Definitely clairvoyance, but also just for a split moment so it's not over powered. A ghost spell that maybe speeds you up based on missing health. Just basically things to make hiders stealthier and seekers more deadly.
> [{quoted}](name=OhMyGodBecky,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-07-17T19:12:23.858+0000) > > Hell yeah bring it back!!! I loved Dominion in general cause it was a quick game if you didn't have much time to play or were waiting for your friends to finish a normal. > > And hide and seek was just so much fun. Personally my friends had a no invis champs rule. I would love to be able to play on summoners rift and have maybe a voting system during champ select for match rules in place of bans. > > Like maybe, no resurrecting allowed, no invis, no healing allies, no speeding up allies, no slowing seekers, no shielding, no exhaust, seeker gets # clairvoyance, each hider gets # clairvoyance. Just kinda throwing things out there. Maybe like 3 rules a match so it's different every time. > > Definitely would have to add a way for everyone to level. And remove minions/tower aggro. I think it would be cool if it didn't show whether the seeker has done dragon/baron. And make jungle camps unattackable by hiders but still targetable for jumping onto. > > Would be cool too if hiders made a bit more gold per second than seekers since hiders main goal is survival not kills. > > Last I think it would be cool to add summoner spells specific to hide and seek. Like maybe a shroud you can cast on yourself or an ally for a brief moment. Definitely clairvoyance, but also just for a split moment so it's not over powered. A ghost spell that maybe speeds you up based on missing health. Just basically things to make hiders stealthier and seekers more deadly. Honestly some great ideas here, the ghost that gets better the lower health you are sounds awesome. I know Riot can do it and I must stress please at least let us invite friends to tooltip games instead of just one bot!!! I just hope the rito gods notice me and all of the support for hide and seek
: i really...really... _**really**_ miss doom bots {{sticker:sg-janna}}
doom bots was a blast, the bildgwater event was really fun in my opinion with changing the minions, Snowdown, ascension, nexus seige, regular urf? one for all, ar one for all. oldies but goodies.
: Well, I agree with you and it'll be fun. But what I'm doubting. Did a support really told you to come here and post it ? Because they just say "sorry,we can't,we couldn't,we are not able to..."
> [{quoted}](name=QuM1tSuk3 YT,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0011,timestamp=2019-07-17T15:38:30.502+0000) > > Well, I agree with you and it'll be fun. But what I'm doubting. Did a support really told you to come here and post it ? Because they just say "sorry,we can't,we couldn't,we are not able to..." yes sir, the comment I posted was me just quoting his response. I haven't had much interaction with the League boards but so far this post has been at least top 5 on "hot" for over a day and I suppose he believes that the devs check this regularly but I'm not sure, just hoping for the best :D
Prandine (NA)
: I enjoyed the fan mode and back in the day I even played a couple games of hide and seek on SR and there were some pretty big issues that popped up that prevented it from taking off. 1) It's very big. Unless you limit it to the jungle only there are many places one could hide, such as in the bushes close to towers. Yes in The Crystal Scar you could also hide in lane bushes and in the dark areas of the capture points but at least there it felt reasonable and made sense. Doing the same on SR is sadly unreasonable and unfair. 2) No passive XP. Dominion gave passive XP whereas Classic doesn't. The only way I found to remedy that somewhat was to have everyone farm to lv.6 then start the actual H&S clock once all 6s recalled. After that Hiders could only gain further XP from non-buff jungle monsters and weren't allowed to leech XP from lane minions. Of course back then Brambleback and Golem had 2 minions, there was no rift herald iirc and the one and the only dragon had no passive buffs. 3) If you don't start the 45 minute clock (45 instead of 40 to try to compensate) after all lv.6s recall then depending on when everyone hits 6 the seekers are at a major disadvantage, arguably more-so than on The Crystal Scar. It's also tricky and cumbersome to try to remember what the exact stop time is compared to on TCS. So while it is possible to play H&S on SR it requires allot of lengthy setup to make it work efficiently.
> [{quoted}](name=Prandine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-07-17T07:05:19.112+0000) > > I enjoyed the fan mode and back in the day I even played a couple games of hide and seek on SR and there were some pretty big issues that popped up that prevented it from taking off. > > 1) It's very big. Unless you limit it to the jungle only there are many places one could hide, such as in the bushes close to towers. Yes in The Crystal Scar you could also hide in lane bushes and in the dark areas of the capture points but at least there it felt reasonable and made sense. Doing the same on SR is sadly unreasonable. > 2) No passive XP. Dominion gave passive XP whereas Classic doesn't. The only way I found to remedy that somewhat was to have everyone farm to lv.6 then start the actual H&S clock once all 6s recalled. After that Hiders could only gain further XP from non-buff jungle monsters and weren't allowed to leech XP from lane minions. Of course back then Brambleback and Golem had 2 minions, there was no rift herald iirc and the one and the only dragon had no passive buffs. > 3) If you don't start the 45 minute clock (45 instead of 40 to try to compensate) after all lv.6s recall then depending on when everyone hits 6 the seekers are at a major disadvantage, arguably more-so than on The Crystal Scar. It's also tricky and cumbersome to try to remember what the exact stop time is compared to on TCS. > > So while it is possible to play H&S on SR it requires allot of lengthy setup to make it work efficiently. I totally agree with you, I tried but it was just no longer worth it for the subpar reward of trying on SR. I really only came to this realization and made this post because of the practice tool now available it shows that riot can easily change summoners rift just like in the tool, no minions, have everyone start at 6, no towers shooting, giving gold giving xp so you don't have to farm. I'm no game designer but looking at what riot has done over the years with the bones they already have I don't see it as a stretch for them to put a little time into it and make it work. They can block off lane bushes and base ascension style leaving only jungle, they can increase passive gold and xp by changing a few scaling numbers ide imagine. the tools are all there I'm just hoping to make a big enough wave to show them that people out their want to play it again {{sticker:sg-soraka}} and again even beyond that a minimum to just allowing for the training tool mode to be a custom game mode or inviting friends into it would let 7 friends who just wanted to play and enforce the rules themselves play, and would also most likely have other uses outside of H&S
: I was talking about Hide And Seek with somebody In a game of Aram last night and about how much I miss it. for a long time I used to log on on and play hide and seek for 6 hours straight, it was the most fun I have had playing league of legends.
> [{quoted}](name=bulletbear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-07-17T06:49:55.234+0000) > > I was talking about Hide And Seek with somebody In a game of Aram last night and about how much I miss it. for a long time I used to log on on and play hide and seek for 6 hours straight, it was the most fun I have had playing league of legends. Honestly man I feel the same way, the games were so long but so rewarding and it never felt ba to just run it back and go again. it was an amazing time.
: I don't know why they removed the crystal scar from custom lobbies for people who want to play dominion with friends or hide n seek...
> [{quoted}](name=GarfieldxLasagna,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-17T04:23:36.827+0000) > It was really sad when it happened and I believe they did it because it was not popular enough and to keep it around they would have to update every new champion and champion skin/rework/update etc to work on crystal scar. I could be wrong but I think that is why. That doesn't really explain twisted treeline but whatever{{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}} they could have locked it and kept it held in time but that would probably be unrealistic, that's why I think tweaking summoners rift is the best option, but I really hope they make it happen!
: I wish junglers realize how important it is to gank bot
plat jungle main here, bot is just a hard gank most of the time, especially in soloq. Not only is it double the amount of rando's that you have to trust help you in your gank, its also out of the way, usually the most heavily warded and the easiest to turn into an enemy win. A general rule I have always heard is "its much easier to turn a 2 v 3 than a 1 v 2" ganking top or mid you can cc to death or get a summoner spell, whereas bot it's always a much higher chance of losing your own life, or spells and therefore wasting precious early game time. Not to mention if the other bot lane is already ahead. That ties into another rule "gank your winning lanes" Maybe I'm crazy and have been taught wrong/ learned wrong but that's my 2 cents - 4 Gum {{champion:77}}
: I'm curious about this ticket. Any chance you can screenshot it for us? I agree I would love LOVE LOVE Hide and Seek.
> [{quoted}](name=A Sutpid Idot,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=4JA8feI2,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T02:46:23.986+0000) > > I'm curious about this ticket. Any chance you can screenshot it for us? I agree I would love LOVE LOVE Hide and Seek. Now that I've made the post it won't let me add a picture but I can just copy paste his response (the ticket I sent in was close to what my post said I just added that if he is a community expert i.e, not a riot employee to try and forward it on to one). IMISSTRACKERSKNIFE July 16th 2019, 3:43:11 pm Hey there 4 Gum, Safeguarding in for the assist! I've actually been playing since 2012 as well! Cheers to the good times! ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) You're right that I don't have a direct impact on the game itself, but I'll make sure this gets traction! Hide n' Seek was fun, ngl! However, don't forget to post this on the Boards and on the r/LoL subreddit so the devs themselves can see it! Thanks for the support, bud! If you have any more questions, let me know! IMissTrackersKnife Riot Games Player Support "Your will, my hands."
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