: Are they changing how energized attacks work? Because right now, you won't get both (Shiv and RFC proc) in terms of damage. If you have both, then it is using the damage from Shiv, but enables this to damage towers. Meaning that just Shiv and Stormrazor would get buffed.
> [{quoted}](name=SatomiKun,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=00010003,timestamp=2019-01-31T00:39:26.019+0000) > > Are they changing how energized attacks work? > Because right now, you won't get both (Shiv and RFC proc) in terms of damage. > > If you have both, the it is using the damage from Shiv, but enables this to damage towers. Meaning that just Shiv and Stormrazor would get buffed. i think that right now that charged attack modifiers stack. also SR has a differently named passive
Heos00 (NA)
: Im not even excited for the next patch as ad main.. :/ Another nerf for adcs, lets keep playing Vel bot i guess.
> [{quoted}](name=Heos00,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-01-30T21:32:42.002+0000) > > Im not even excited for the next patch as ad main.. :/ > Another nerf for adcs, lets keep playing Vel bot i guess. the lowered crit (and attack speed) seems like a big adc nerf. I thought it was too. but the reversion of IE and a better PD (for adc only really) is going to be great. and new stormrazer should help make bursty adc's viable again.
Ralik098 (NA)
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=Ralik098,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-01-30T20:31:18.261+0000) > > Worst patch ever, fuck riot. found the guy spamming akali every lane and thinking it has anything to do with their skill. suddenly they will have nobody to play and hit 0 lp after 3 games of some shit like fiora
: On Champs that have 2.5 attack speed, ALL slow opponents on their very first hit by 40%, ensuring they hit 2 more times, and enough damage in the first hit to bring a tank to half HP and anyone else to death? I don't even know mages who do that. This is why adcs were reworked in the first place: too much burst on Energized procs. And, these are the cheapest items in the game, mind you. Caitlyn with the upcoming items can legitimately hit 2800-3300 Crits (I did this before the reworks turned IE into a True damage item) Jinx will be both inescapable and hit for 1200-1300 a hit instead of her 900's in Season 8. Armor will do more to mitigate it, but the entire player base is so used to not building armor/a lot of it that it will take a full year + for players to find the right armor sequences to counter this buff, and even then, it won't counter it because of the TOTAL Penetration on Lord Dominik's and Mortal Reminder (Season 7 this was BONUS only). There's more to this argument than just : Oh. A game went long enough to give an adc 11-12k Gold. They should pwn. For 17-18k, 4 items, no other champs have this kind of 1 shot output, save maybe Veigar/Karthus.
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-01-30T18:49:33.711+0000) > > On Champs that have 2.5 attack speed, ALL slow opponents on their very first hit by 40%, ensuring they hit 2 more times, and enough damage in the first hit to bring a tank to half HP and anyone else to death? > > I don't even know mages who do that. > > This is why adcs were reworked in the first place: too much burst on Energized procs. > There's more to this argument than just : Oh. A game went long enough to give an adc 11-12k Gold. They should pwn. For 17-18k, 4 items, no other champs have this kind of 1 shot output, save maybe Veigar/Karthus. Im very split on this honestly I thin kthe healthiest was to have an adc role in a game like this is alot of percentage true damage. aka, it takes the same amount of time to kill almost anyone. Which would be beat by burst, assassins, when are beaten by tanks. But thats so far from what LOL looks like now, ADC's SHOULD be able to dual well and out DPS other roles. But then in a teamfight bad position leads to being overwhelmed and easily killed because they are squishy. the fact of the matter though is that adc's are 80% unplayable right now, unless mid and jungle hyper feed them and they get a full item ahead. and thats not okay. at that point, why even have a top lane. (oh right, most people are playing ganking/ support top laners now anyway) just to further snowball against the biggest weakness on the enemy team (adc). this is a patch they have to watch carefully, but im glad they are doing it.
Infernape (EUW)
: I mean top lane Vi will probably be a thing now so I'm kinda hyped for that.
> [{quoted}](name=Infernape,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-01-30T17:38:35.488+0000) > > I mean top lane Vi will probably be a thing now so I'm kinda hyped for that. i have tried that with every pach of vi, and its always close to viable (ha) but not quite. maybe this time though... maybe this time.
: I am personally a little concerned about Stormrazor. It's going to enable 1 shot kills with Energized builds, like those on Quinn, etc. You will have a total of 3 Energized damage abilities: Shiv Rapid Fire Cannon Stormrazor and 1 Healing Energized ability: Fleet Footwork. Stormrazor is going to buff all of those by 30% damage/heals on the same release. Altogether they add up to about 400 damage, and Shiv's can crit, bring it to about 540. Stormrazor's passive is going to raise that to 702, and that's not including IE's 225% Crit multiplier, Champion base/skill damage. We're going to see 1600 total crits again......
> [{quoted}](name=Illabethe,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=w9zpfJv8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-01-30T17:37:32.814+0000) > > I am personally a little concerned about Stormrazor. It's going to enable 1 shot kills with Energized builds, like those on Quinn, etc. > We're going to see 1600 total crits again...... I am HOPING (as is riot probably) that the changes will enable all types of adc again. since 80% of them are unplayable right now. (without huge jungle/mid pressure) charged shots take a decent amount of work to get more than 2 in an extended teamfight. I'd be watching jihn though for those fatty 1 shots for sure.
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lehmakeke (EUNE)
: Urgot R bug
: Authenticating forever
so hu as i was installing syberghost, a login did go through. im now using cyberghost and things seem to be fine. @Muhyun319 all you have to do is install, run program and click on protect internet connection. it will "que" you (stall you as bait to upgrade) and then re route your ip through their service. note: do NOT hit any back buttons or actually close the window. it will stop the service and you will have to reopen.
: Authenticating forever
however yes illinois comcast
: Authenticating forever
butt my friends, who live right near me same isp are currently playing.
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: Thresh bug [GAMEPLAY]
you only found half the bug If you wait till the hook is almost all the way out, then lantern, you can through it globally. the latern becomes invis and cant be grabbed but its a free(mana costs) clairvoyance.
Victusify (EUNE)
: Invulnerability Bug with Zhonya
been there forever. doensnt actually matter
Vérmilion (EUNE)
: Graves critting turrets and inhibitors
graves autos dont work the same as other champs.
: Hecarim's E seems to be broken
its because the targeting for the charge "auto" happens a good distance away from the target,. and its starts to do the little dash/knockback before hes being hit be the snares and such. Thanks to riot for saying dashes>snares.
: [Champion Concept] Matteus, Vigilante of Zaun
hey guys if you're going to downvote me tell me why please
Rioter Comments
: riot if you want my money, give me dunk master illaoi
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Tentaku (EUNE)
: We need AP/Armour item that isn't Zhonya's
: Duskblade stats vs price
i couldnt disagree more with those points^ @ Fjiordor
: Riot already said that tuning will most likely happen, but they need live server stats to be sure. The main goal was to give predictability to how assassins will itemize and play, and since a lot of assassins will now have to play around that auto, you can counter play accordingly by kiting and CC. Sure their are exceptions that this would be hard (like Zed's ultimate giving him guaranteed aa range), but specific changes and other tweaks are bound to happen.
> [{quoted}](name=SlayerTay6,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XYnM8jEF,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-02-10T14:00:41.906+0000) > > Riot already said that tuning will most likely happen, I just doesnt make since to me how riot tries so hard to tweek old items money costs to be on point with stats, then makes a new item with great stats(let alone a free execute) so cheep. even without its passive, it seems way too monetarily worth.
Fjiordor (EUW)
: Because the other 75 ad item gives you **20%** perrcent lifesteal?? And a creazy shielding passive witout any CD?
> [{quoted}](name=Fjiordor,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XYnM8jEF,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-02-10T13:57:04.520+0000) > > Because the other 75 ad item gives you **20%** perrcent lifesteal?? > And a creazy shielding passive witout any CD? even IF you say their stats are equivalent, how can you justify durskblade being so cheap? it costs 450 less than bt. thats a big difference
Rioter Comments
: You must discount the champs that aren't in the meta, and the ones you dont play very well ... regular players knows how to play well 3 - 6 champs per lane, so lets say (hypothetically) that everyone knows how to play 4 champs per lane, thats 20 champs in total counting all lanes, so if there were 5 bans per team, you lose a maximun of 10 of your champs, but being honest you will lose like 5 of your champs. So, which champs are the people going to ban, the ones that are OP and are currently on the META. Lets put this in a ranked aspect, a ranked player who knows how to pick a champ smartly knows this aspects: * Pick a champion with which you feel comfortable playing. * Pick a champion who is strong right now/in the Meta. * Counter Pick. so that leaves you with pretty reduced options considering the relation within the players Champion Pool, CounterPicks,Meta. And remember that "if an enemy picks a champion that counters your main(s) you are going to be crushed if you pick one of those champs, and the one that i know how to play isn't weak against X champ is banned, golly molly what a bad luck. and you are not going to play a champ that you do not control very well. So The current number of Bans per team seems correct for me, i really must point out to riot that this is his game, the costumer may be always right, but if you go to a fruit store and tell the shopkeeper to sell Burgers instead of pinneapples, he will not do that, Even if a bunch of costumers told the shopkeeper to sell Burgers instead of pinneapples, he will not do that, 'cause he is a Fruit vendor not a Burger vendor. I hope that Riot or tencent or whoever is in charge here knows when the costumers are not right. This is my opinion, i think that increasing the numbers of bans is not going to be fair for some players. Also, think in new players who are first going into Draft Pick/Ranked and do not know how to play a extensive variety of champs for every lane, and have at least 16 champs at their disposal, counting the CounterPicks and Champions mastery. that wouldn't be fair to them. i'm glad that at Riot/Tencent they take in consideration new players, 'cause from them, they grow.
> [{quoted}](name=WhiteTieNeko,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zn6Oqs44,comment-id=000300010000,timestamp=2016-02-08T02:57:39.827+0000) > > You must discount the champs that aren't in the meta, and the ones you dont play very well . no, you dont. YOU haveing a small champion pool that revolves around "Meta" champs is not an argument against more bans
: Might as well remove "preferred champion" selection
___ITT___ Bitching because my op champ choice got banned probably when I wasnt first pick
: > [{quoted}](name=5ome White Guy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=00010000000000010001000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-08T00:59:33.786+0000) > >The difference here is that there is alot of counterplay to poppies new kit. (not dashes, but counterplay). That's the point > So when talking about reworking kayle, if you really think she needs a rework, Id expect them to probably keep her AA mechanic, passive and R relatively the same. Literally doesn't make sense given the example. There's no counter-play in Kayle's kit. She either scales and runs through the enemy or she doesn't and she loses. There's really no in between to play with. Kits like these aren't popular or good in the long haul, game health or player skill wise.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=000100000000000100010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-02-08T01:45:22.693+0000) > Literally doesn't make sense given the example. There's no counter-play in Kayle's kit. She either scales and runs through the enemy or she doesn't and she loses. There's really no in between to play with. Kits like these aren't popular or good in the long haul, game health or player skill wise. AA's are AAs. you cant rework aas. and thats her champ. ap aa's. Get over it.
Horidas (NA)
: Then absolutely no one would get to play their favorite champion, or the one they want at least.
> [{quoted}](name=Horidas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=zn6Oqs44,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2016-02-08T01:45:52.031+0000) > > Then absolutely no one would get to play their favorite champion, or the one they want at least. with 10 bans, theres STILL 119 champs to play, god forbiid you dont get to play one of the 10 champs that Riot has let go out of control at the time
: Is it a good idea to max Turtle and Bear form as Udyr?
ad, go Tiger max, turtle or fighting bear for ganking second, ap, max pheonix then q. if FULL tank then maybe turtle.
: When would you not want to evolve Q or E as Kha'Zix?
E is mobility, very good if your enemy is grouped, q is more power, good if your enemy is splitting, W is good if you are behind, and or need the slow increase (set up kills for others). R makes you invisible a possible 6 times longer, which is nice in general. ( know knows, maybe your ap then take r, w, first.
Vesarixx (NA)
: Suggestion: add a directional indicator to Rengars exclamation point
: Devourer is dumb
I dont agree, but now that herold is in the game, dragon.baron herold should give less stacks toward sated,
: If there wasn't an Attack Speed cap... What would be the max AS?
always remember to stop and ask why. Look at kogmaw. little bastard cant even move with his as steroid. just has to go into turret mode
: NEW Q IS BROKEN
maybe. he lied to you
Ecodeath (NA)
: fiora is the most uselesss tank
Meriipu (EUW)
: 4 or 5 bans per team in draft
re post this without diana in there and its perfect. But really Rito, there should have been more bans starting at 100 champs. now theres almost 130 (129) side note, the new draft would work so much better if every person got a ban. hell even with 8 total bans, atleast the 2nd pick on each team wouldnt be screwed (no bans, not first pick)
: > [{quoted}](name=5ome White Guy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=000100000000000100010000,timestamp=2016-02-08T00:01:26.455+0000) > > shes an auto attack based champion. even IF she were reworked, that would not change. her kit identity is auto attack, make someone invincible. what they would change is her heal and slow. Then that's a shit rework. They can do better than that. Look at Poppy. The ONLY thing that's the same as before is her E. That's it. Whole kit is revamped. They can do the same with Kayle and change her from some AA-spamming ball of stats. That play style just isn't right for an ap fighter anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=0001000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2016-02-08T00:05:14.230+0000) > > Look at Poppy. The ONLY thing that's the same as before is her E. That's it. Whole kit is revamped. That is a very fair point, Poppy as a slightly different identity now, and her whole kit is changed. However, that isnt a normal thing for riot, who tends to see what people complain about on a champ as what makes them unique. for instance, poppy wuold make all but her target unable to stop her from getting to that target by ulting before. NOW its infinitely harder to do that, but a well landed ult can still leave an enemy adc all alone for the taking. The difference here is that there is alot of counterplay to poppies new kit. (not dashes, but counterplay). So when talking about reworking kayle, if you really think she needs a rework, Id expect them to probably keep her AA mechanic, passive and R relatively the same (no, there %100 IS counterplay to kayles Ult). IF they were to pick one of those to change, it would almost definitely be her Ult. and even then, it would probably be something that gives allies huge damage reduction, so expecting that identity to change isnt founded.
Vikkypoo (NA)
: FUCK YOU. All you TSM fans were like WE WON PRE SEASON, WE HAVE LIFT LOL @ CLG WE HAVE YELLOWSTAR THE BEST SHOTCALLER. WE ARE A SUPER TEAM, blah blah blah. Now you fucking tsm fans need to humble yourselves, but instead of humbling yourselves you give them excuses as to why they arent doing well. Don't over hype and talk shit if you are gonna pussy out when you start looking like shit.
> [{quoted}](name=Vikkypoo,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=qqid4dG9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-08T00:21:16.221+0000) > > FUCK YOU. > > All you TSM fans were like man, you are a little to into the lcs. Your fantasy league losing? taking it out on the boards?
: People seem to be giving TSM a lot of shit
Dyrus is gone. Hes gone and hes never coming back. give people time.
: Mystery skin giveaway for simple quiz.
> [{quoted}](name=FieBall25,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=uzYp3ntX,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-07T23:42:09.790+0000) > > What is : ATG, TDG, HJC, COL, WDQK, USIAW m. okay lets start with acronyms. I happen to know what all of these mean, based purely on things ive overheard highschool girls say when I was in highschool In order, they stand for : Always tongue Guys, Thick D**k Guy, His Giant C**k, Call Off the Lesbian, We Dont Question Kardashians, and You Suck IN All Ways
: What IOS Mobile apps does the Lol/esports community need?
an app thats just garens face and a counter so you can count the amount of times garen players laugh spam.
: Why is football a thing in America?
> [{quoted}](name=Kochiya Sanae,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=5MygZFtQ,comment-id=,timestamp=2016-02-08T00:04:16.224+0000) > > Other sports take strategy, whether its decision making or teamwork > > Football? Literally braindead, testosterone spraying mess seems a bit drastic. considering they stop to decide on plays every ten seconds
: > [{quoted}](name=TheCrimsonSky,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:29:22.128+0000) > > You can't make every single champion into skill-shot oriented. > We gotta leave some easy ones. > Besides Kayle is not really a easy champion. The "easy" ones are in a terrible state of balance that leaves little room for advancement and satisfaction at higher levels of play. Besides, you can have skill shots and be easy relatively easy to play.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:31:54.644+0000) > > The "easy" ones are in a terrible state of balance that leaves little room for advancement and satisfaction at higher levels of play. Besides, you can have skill shots and be easy relatively easy to play. not that it matters but lockon abilities can be bad. like when you have no skillshots so you cant check bushes without walking up to them.
: > [{quoted}](name=5ome White Guy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=0001000000000001,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:17:22.776+0000) > > If you are going to get nitpicky about old Champs with straight forward kits, talk about chogath first. > > Also thread: no kyle doesn't need a rework. At least not more than taric, yorich, skarner (lol), ww, At least Skarner had a rework recently. Kayle is literally: - Spam E and they die - Spam E and I die Literally EVERYTHING about Kayle is that one play pattern and the prelude to it.
> [{quoted}](name=chipndip1,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=00010000000000010001,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:30:06.156+0000) > > At least Skarner had a rework recently. Kayle is literally: > > - Spam E and they die > > - Spam E and I die > > Literally EVERYTHING about Kayle is that one play pattern and the prelude to it. shes an auto attack based champion. even IF she were reworked, that would not change. her kit identity is auto attack, make someone invincible. what they would change is her heal and slow.
: > [{quoted}](name=5ome White Guy,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=1PGFzIOi,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:10:58.133+0000) > > Ye ah but the commenter was annoying as ballsweat that's what the custom skin is for, all the pirate fun without gangplank fucking screaming in your ear
> [{quoted}](name=Kongquest,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=1PGFzIOi,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2016-02-06T21:36:39.332+0000) > > that's what the custom skin is for, all the pirate fun without gangplank fucking screaming in your ear it actually wasnt same voice as gp I believe
Jikker (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Sweetheart Annie,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-02-06T20:18:10.815+0000) > > Plsno You can't get much more of a linear kit than Annie. Targeted Q, basic AoE in front of her W, E for charging stun really, R for insta nuke. ERW = goodbye squishies, that was hard. She's pretty outdated when you get down to it
> [{quoted}](name=Jikker,realm=NA,application-id=mNBeEEkI,discussion-id=IlyxtOf7,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2016-02-06T20:20:03.597+0000) > > You can't get much more of a linear kit than Annie. Targeted Q, basic AoE in front of her W, E for charging stun really, R for insta nuke. ERW = goodbye squishies, that was hard. She's pretty outdated when you get down to it If you are going to get nitpicky about old Champs with straight forward kits, talk about chogath first. Also thread: no kyle doesn't need a rework. At least not more than taric, yorich, skarner (lol), ww,
: aram is 100x more appealing with the bilgewater skin
Ye ah but the commenter was annoying as ballsweat
: DIG is trash LOL
Since qtpie left, yeah
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