: Idk 400 games in gold may mean something else. Your cs/m is inconsistent(5-4 isn't really good), in 20 games you touched control ward only once, you are dying too much. Git gud, find mistakes in yourself before shittalking others...
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fwzTAUsk,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-29T10:12:32.697+0000) > > Idk 400 games in gold may mean something else. > > Your cs/m is inconsistent(5-4 isn't really good), in 20 games you touched control ward only once, you are dying too much. > > Git gud, find mistakes in yourself before shittalking others... i just started ranked couple of months ago and quit in between. Ive only played around 100 games in ranked so i dont know where this 400 came from. I do play normals for the longest time since season 6 . when it comes to cs and warding, i barely do any of it because it never affect me. I awlays win 1v1 until they go zhonyas and tank items. By late game im pretty useless as zed since everyone on enemy team has anti-death gears. If you check my match history the only time im losing as zed is when im completely countered or my jg is not doing anything for me and while im camped. The jg i get on my side aways sucks, like, an troll picked oriana jg will win a lee sin jg on my side. I dont remember the last time i did bad in ranked because im just not doing well. I say prob less then 5% of my total ranked matches i go on tilt or when my eyes hurt due to prolonged gameplay.
Sylph (NA)
: you sure its the americans and not the non NA players that consistently infest our glorious motherland and speak like unintelligent unga bungas about our moms?
> [{quoted}](name=Sylph,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fwzTAUsk,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-29T14:24:16.545+0000) > > you sure its the americans and not the non NA players that consistently infest our glorious motherland and speak like unintelligent unga bungas about our moms? you sure we were the ones asked riot to be merged with na server..i think not?...ask any non american players and see if they want to be with you people. This is another reason why i said u people are stupid. Never realize ur own mistakes but when being called out, you counter it with some stupid excuses that has another 90% chance of getting backfired. If one region says your bad, no big deal, if every region says and confirms na is trash and americans are stupid, then its prob true. Just from a computer game alone shows how cancers you american teens are in real life.
Rioter Comments
Proxy345 (NA)
: You do know that {{champion:58}} came before {{champion:238}} right? lmfao.
> [{quoted}](name=Proxy345,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=L3gil4oK,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-06-12T22:03:01.826+0000) > > You do know that {{champion:58}} came before {{champion:238}} right? lmfao. what point are trying to argue?...what difference does that make?...How are the champions that came AFTER zed then?... you do reazlied they fired the person made zed and kept all the creators who created champions like irelia, renek, darius, fiora, akali, yorick right?...They purposely wanted this game to be aimed at creating the most op sh1t so kids like you can get kills, feel proud, and get addicted to this game...you know that right? And you do know renek is another cancer that kids abuses on a daily basis to climb ranked because hes instant win right?...
: > [{quoted}](name=99Palms,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=L3gil4oK,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-06-12T20:45:51.428+0000) > > and this is why i said this games community is full cancer.."why i ban zed?...because hes "annoying" to lane against"...So NOT because hes op, its because it merely hurts the ballsack of all the players playing against him, meanwhile, sylas, irelia, vlad, akali, 1v5 mid to late game causing everyone of these bone head teens to lose lp and rage at the game itself. > > and these boneheads has the audacity to downvote this topic, as if zed mains dont even have the right to point out how unfair hes treated by riot, balance team, and the player base. How is he treated unfairly by riot or the balance team? Is he weak right now? I ban Zed every time I'm mid because my mid mains aren't as mobile as he is, so I am constantly pinging MIA for fear of roaming ganks. That's my strategy - it doesn't always work, but it's the one I'm comfortable with. There are over 125 champions to choose from - learn one that isn't Zed and quit throwing a hissy fit.
> [{quoted}](name=ApothNinja,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=L3gil4oK,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-06-12T22:20:34.232+0000) > > How is he treated unfairly by riot or the balance team? Is he weak right now? I ban Zed every time I'm mid because my mid mains aren't as mobile as he is, so I am constantly pinging MIA for fear of roaming ganks. That's my strategy - it doesn't always work, but it's the one I'm comfortable with. > > There are over 125 champions to choose from - learn one that isn't Zed and quit throwing a hissy fit. "weak" is not the problem, the real problem is riot gave you kids every single zed counter items and somehow you kids still dont know how to lane vs him and perma ban him. The balance team does not know how to balance zed, but they buffed the hell out of every other champions that DOES NOT need to be buffed while nerfing those who has no reason to be nerfed. The problem isnt in zed, the problem is with people playing vs him who uses their ego to make decisions instead of their brains, and the balance team who has 0 clue how to balance the game. "weak" and "unfairly" is are just understatements. if other champions are as good as zed, then sure, but everyone other champions are full cancer just like the playerbase and balance team. Playing other champions doesnt fix the issue, so dont give me the " if you cant deal with the problem, ignore it and play something else " excuse.
99Palms (NA)
: ZED IS CONSTANTLY PERMABANNED FOR NO REASON - IM TIRED OF THESE NAIVE CHILDREN WITH 0 LOGIC.
and this is why i said this games community is full cancer.."why i ban zed?...because hes "annoying" to lane against"...So NOT because hes op, its because it merely hurts the ballsack of all the players playing against him, meanwhile, sylas, irelia, vlad, akali, 1v5 mid to late game causing everyone of these bone head teens to lose lp and rage at the game itself. and these boneheads has the audacity to downvote this topic, as if zed mains dont even have the right to point out how unfair hes treated by riot, balance team, and the player base.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: So...in short: Buff Zed, nerf armor, right? Except they recently did buff Zed, and it's made his early game a complete nightmare. Sure, his late game is garbage...which is why most games with a *competent* Zed player usually end pre-25 while he's 20/2. Not to mention that other than Irelia, all of those champions you just mentioned are kinda dogshit...unless you're one of the 3 people who can play Fiora, you're not doing much. Riven is exactly like Zed, only has even shorter range on her kit and even weaker late game. Darius is a noob slayer at best. If you would have talked about *actually busted or downright annoying champions* (cough-vayne-cough-zoe-cough-neeko) I might've been a little more intrigued, but you know what you named specifically? People who love to trash bad Zed players. Which tells me about everything I need to know. >.>
1. his recent buff didnt made him any better...plz dont argue on this one. 2. if you argue those braindead monkies are dogsh1t, then i really dont need to waste more of my time with you. 3. i said etc etc...i just didnt include them yet. 4. i think you dont really play zed, because its clear you dont know his strength and weaknesses.
heroikc (NA)
: Solution to your problem, play someone other than Zed.
my answer, tell these gold kids to use their brain instead of their emotions when it comes to making decisions...it will help them out a lot both in games and in life.
Rioter Comments
FéliXXX (EUW)
: i dont think he was bad in s5 or 6 he became weird to play after mid s7 then he felt like TRASH season 8 and taking a look to s9 info u know he will be even worse
doesnt matter if he goes 12/0, as soon as mid to late game comes, its entire enemy team with deadman, omen, zhonya, ga. While zed has nothing to counter the endless cc and tanks. If he gets cc and use qss, its immediately followed by another cc. If he doesnt get cc at all, he does no dmg because everyone is abusing armor/hp items. All while his kit is slowed down to make EVERY SINGLE enemy be able to cc him when he uses his w or appearing from his ult. my entire rant is basically complaining riots UNNECESSARY decision to weaken zed so EVERY other champion can out lane, out farm, out trade him, when zed ALREADY has zhonya/ga to counter his ult and TANKS to counter his dmg.
: Telling someone their opinions are less or are irrelevant just because they don't main a certain champ is what I was referring to.
again...i didnt say he cant share his opinion because he dosent play zed/his opinions aare irrelevant. he pretends to know when he doesnt in an ARGUMENT. if you just want to share your opinion thats fine, but if its an argument, then you NEED to have understanding of what your defending, and he clearly doesnt. I corrected him and he felt embarrassed and prob contacted you to help him out saying things like i used a bad word, which has nothing to do with anything we've argued.
: > [{quoted}](name=99Palms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdryXtHE,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2018-09-24T23:31:59.542+0000) > > thanks for saving my time, you dont play zed so theres no need for me to waste any more of my time. But we *all* play against Zed, so everyone is free to offer their criticism or support of your opinion.
who said you cant offer ur opinion...? btw you actually forgot do anything about the person that actually used the f word, but someone you gave me a warning for using barely a bad word...
: Nice one. Just because I don't play him, doesn't mean I don't know anything about him. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
...so you know more about him then someone that plays zed right? every point you mentioned about him is either your theory that has never been tested or just false understanding of zed that i easily debunked without any problem. So what makes you think you know him? You cant just tell me you know him when i clearly showed you dont. everything i said are experiences i had with him every single game for the last 3+ years of playing. Where did you kids these days come up with the logic that " just because i never tried, doesnt mean i dont know " argument?..." just because i never had the experience doesnt mean i dont have experience " ... you not only dont understand zed, whats worst is you think you do. When a real zed main criticize the problem with the game zed is facing, which by the way is a direct factor causing league to decline in population the last 2 seasons, without even doing any reasearch on your own, you just blindly said hes fine. and your best argument is well your post has so many downvotes, and his winrates are fine...these crap. Just like riot balance team's logic when balancing the game, they never tested the champions themselves in gameplay and just base their data on winrates and pick rates. Scroll thru this topic and see the arguments these posters are giving saying zed is fine, and you will see how clueless they are. I havent seen a single person that made a valid point...because " i dont play him, doesnt mean i dont know him " so are you and the rest of them not wasting my time?
99Palms (NA)
: 1. ...and? What do you mean not true?... 2. sure, everybody has cc, but how many escape does your lb have vs enemies 1 or 2 cc? How many gap closers can your lb do to vs EVERY other champion? Is it more likely for a lb to escape or for enemy to catch her in general?....Why are you even arguing this one? 3. this one just shows how clueless you are. By the time zed gets cleaver, his enemy champion wouldve got 2 ap items with 300+ hp each + zhonya. You think zed can just get a cleaver as his first item? You think all zed needs is go hp and it solves the problem? 4. ...ive pointed out all the weakness on zed this entire time and your JUST telling "ur champ needs a clear weakness"?...You dont give assassins a 22s cd on his ESCAPE skill. ZED is the ONLY ONE in the game that has the longest gap closer while EVERY OTHER CHAMPION DOESNT. your not a zed player, i can find anything you said is like " well...you can do this, you can get that, but you got this..." those are all THEORIES.
LBmyBB (NA)
: 1. That's justnot true 2. By literally anybody with cc or silence 3. Buy a stinking black cleaver then 4. You need to be cautious cuz ur champ needs a clear weakness and if u can't be aware of the jg or smth then ur not doing it right.
1. ...and? What do you mean not true?... 2. sure, everybody has cc, but how many escape does your lb have vs enemies 1 or 2 cc? How many gap closers can your lb do to vs EVERY other champion? Is it more likely for a lb to escape or for enemy to catch her in general?....Why are you even arguing this one? 3. this one just shows how clueless you are. By the time zed gets cleaver, his enemy champion wouldve got 2 ap items with 300+ hp each + zhonya. You think zed can just get a cleaver as his first item? You think all zed needs is go hp and it solves the problem? 4. ...ive pointed out all the weakness on zed this entire time and your JUST telling "ur champ needs a clear weakness"?...You dont give assassins a 22s cd on his ESCAPE skill. ZED is the ONLY ONE in the game that has the longest gap closer while EVERY OTHER CHAMPION DOESNT. your not a zed player, i can find anything you said is like " well...you can do this, you can get that, but you got this..." those are all THEORIES.
: > [{quoted}](name=99Palms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdryXtHE,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2018-09-24T21:55:54.186+0000) > > 1. you said tanks was not the problem since season 6-8.......are you ok? The reason why so many pro quit league is because of so many players abusing tanks, making the game boring and unfair for people who dont play tanks. When you have a champion that can tank and deal a crap ton of dmg making him/her both the carry and tank discourage people who play this game to learn and get better, instead, thanks to tanks, people needs to change the entire meta just to play around the tanks because of how stupidly op they are. How? By picking tanks themselves. Now you have teams going 3-4 tanks with shit ton of cc and just rush omen, deadman, etc...you can imagine the outcome. Why even play the game? Seasons ago don't matter anymore because that crap isn't a part of it now. Tanks are literally MELTED through with damage right now. They aren't that strong anymore. Stop using them as an argument. > > 2. if zhonya is barely counter, then nobody would buy them. Zhonyas's stats offers way more than ANY early items zed is offered so saying zhonya doesnt offer much is completely untrue. Zhonya not only offers a good deal of ap, armor, and an active to cancel out any burst, whiches already a unfair item to the wielder because it offers unfair advantage. Compare with maw?...thats not even an argument. Because people still try to save themselves a few deaths. Doesn't counter all. And sorry but nope. Rushing Zhonya's just to barely survive in lane puts a mage behind even more because 1, it offers no mana, so we can't farm, therefore can't get gold to buy items, while Zed is laughing as he farms up to his eyeballs in gold and just deletes through the measly armor Zhonya's gives because they rush a Duskblade and laugh at our weak attempt to escape. Again, with a Zed going full CDR, he can use his ult over THREE TIMES in the timespan that the active is DOWN- 120 SECONDS. Meanwhile if a Zed goes hexdrinker, he can still escape our burst while doing a shit ton of damage. > > 3. try lethality vs armor and tell me again. This one is more false than your zhonya statement. I dont know how you not know the power armor way outweights the benefit of stacked letality since there are tanks abusing armor literally every game. My Zhonya statement isn't false. Go do the math yourself. And maybe you should watch your next few games and see how tanks literally are shredded to pieces thanks to lethality and over tuned runes. > > 4. zed's poke deals half dmg if you just stay behind minions. He can only poke when his w is off cd ( 22s )...are you saying you cant poke zed when your poke is literally almost a third of his w cd AND you have range auto hits? 1) Rushing Zhonya's makes our poke barely do anything. 2) I never said I can't poke him. Don't assume things that you don't know are true or false yet. 3) He just pokes you back and deletes half your health bar. > > 5. if assassins are early to mid then why is EVERY other assassins NOT early to mid except zed?...If assassins are early to mid then why even pick assassins at all? Its all about late game that WINS the game NOT early to mid game. Do you think riot is right when they make assassins only early to mid? for what reason? Again, every other assassins ARE early to mid, and don't you see the length of the games now? The games end so short because of the stupid snowball fest Riot made, so there barely is any LATE GAME. And I agree with Riot. Assassins need to be held accountable so they don't abuse the game. Mages are late game scalers, assassins aren't. It's called balance. > > 6. higher elo doesnt even rush zhonyas, because they know hes useless more than any other elo. Just like yasuo. In high elo is all about team play, ganks, macro, turret, teamfight. Theres no room for solo killing for zed so they dont even need to engage onto zed because they know he will be useless late game. > > > you've made a lot incorrect statements and majority of them arent even considered problems compare with the amount of counter zed has to deal with. Im assuming you dont play zed that much. Sorry but you're wrong. A lot of my statements are true, and especially are for the lower elos as well. And I never play Zed because I like AP champions better. But I've played a hell of a ton against him to know shit about him. Stop QQing for the love of God. You already are showing your biased Zed opinion and just getting downvoted for it. Clearly shows how false you are. Good bye!
thanks for saving my time, you dont play zed so theres no need for me to waste any more of my time.
: > [{quoted}](name=99Palms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdryXtHE,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-09-24T18:33:09.665+0000) > > 1. i never said assassinating tanks...i dont go towards tanks, tanks comes towards ZED. When they cc you nonstop and prevents you from even getting near the adc, whom already have their own cc and counter kit ( zhonya, ga ), how do you want zed to kill? > > 2. do you see midlaners rush zhonya as often as vs a zed? An ekko...a fukin ekko whos already a zed counter rushes stopwatch and then into a zhonya...do you play zed and see how unfair they go to counter zed? PURE abusing of armor, hp, zhonya EVEN when zed DOESNT even counter them. Do you know how useless zed becomes with just one of the items? He loses every single trade with skill shots and then gets his ult countered by stop watch/zhonya. > > 3. you do realized ap does more dmg and then ad right? You do realize hextach doesnt go off at times? You do realized if zed builds hex he wont be able to build into his core items which greatly reduces his dmg? You do realize zed can get hex, enemy can also go similar items with better stats then hex right? It's tanks job to cockblock assassins from killing squishies. Team game, remember ? Not "me Zed me kill stuff me no lose hp bc me so skilz" Yes ? If you don't rush Zhonya gg you lost, Stopwatch is a one use item. And once again with this picture, sometimes I die before I can even use it because Zed didn't even R. https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/455110895551381504/477574307355033601/unknown.png You do realize that AD champions can rely on their AA ?
sure...tanks job are to cockblock and to protect your carry. But what happens when your tank is unkillable with aburd amt of cc and there are 3+ of them?...How do you want zed to do anything? remember, your carry also got their own cc, zhonya and your adc carry got their cc, dmg, and support with more cc, exhaust, etc...Tell me, is it more likely for zed to succeed or more likely for him to become the prey? its not about zed getting kills, its about the fact he gets killed even before he could do anything. He gets cc and then just gets surrounded by tanks. Hes no rengar with invisibility and 1 sec death burst with no reaction possible. zhonya, stopwatch are unfair items that offers the wielder unfair advantage over every other champions. But midlaners tends to use it more often vs zed because its the easiest counter. What does zed have? hex/maw...tell me which one is more useful? Do you even see zed going hex anymore?
: > [{quoted}](name=99Palms,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mdryXtHE,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-09-24T17:51:55.638+0000) > > I main zed with 4.3mill mastery. > I play only zed because he is the ONLY champion in the entire moba genres that is actually fun, balance, skillful to play. I dont need to explain further, if you dont agree with me, name another champion like zed from every other moba in history thats even close to zeds mechanics. > > The problem with zed right now is that riot gave him so many unnecessary nerfs that nobody asked for, causing zed to be useless in EVERY season. Starting in season 5, during the same time when i started playing zed i get stomped by tanks EVERY game, doesnt matter if im 12/3, all tanks need are 2 tank items like omen and sunfire and i will do no dmg to them. Moving into season 6-8, riot finally went full retard and made tanks the meta ALL WHILE giving zed more nerfs that NOBODY asked for, and whats more ridiculous? In order to appeal their game to a more younger audience ( new customers ), all the new champions they release has retardedly overloaded kit. They can have cc, dmg, heal in 1 skill all while with aburd amt of movement speed and shields that just made them unkillable, because..." we need to make these ez champions to appeal to 14/15 years old so they can feel good about themselves and get addicted to this game...imagine if they play zed, they will get frustrated of how difficult this champions is and quit the game in no time "... LOL. Yea right. Tanks have not been the problem seasons 6-8. Maybe one season but since then they've been toned down. This whole season 8 has been the flashy, snowbally, assassin meta that Zed thrives on. > > The problem with zed since his debut is that he has too many counters, his ult can be cancelled by zhonyas, ga, exhaust, heal, barrier, cc, flash. Zhonya's is barely a counter anymore, as any Zed now can melt through the armor like butter, and since the active CD was nerfed from 90 seconds to 120, he can ult you over three times now in the timespan that the active is down. Not all champions take GA, like mages, and Zed still can outplay through heal, barrier, exhaust, and flash cause I've seen it. > > His dmg can easily be countered by armor making him losing EVERY trade when his opponent just goes ninja tabi, dorans, cloths. Armor is cut through like butter because of lethality so that argument is busted dude. > > His w has a 22sec base cd...can i ask why? Talon, lb, rengar, diana, fizz, etc...all have nonstop escape/gap closers with less than 10s cd. Why an assassin like zed needs to have 22? Meanwhile talon can jump threw walls nonstop, lb can change position nonstop, and rengar and jump nonstop while being invisible, but why only zed has 22s on his ESCAPE skill? Hes using his w to escape like a assassin, NOT to do dmg. Name another champion with gap closers that comes even close to 22s. Counterplay. Every other part he had was taken away, like QSS, Zhonya's nerf, etc. And because he was becoming too oppressive with his poke anyway, which he still is tbh. And he can escape with his R as well. > >** Even when zed does well in lane, his mid and late game** just completely renders him useless because of zhonyas, gas, tanks, etc...and dont forget, CC. All it takes is 1 cc and zed will be done, because assholes in this game just wants to pick the most overpowered pieces of sh1t champ that has loaded cc. So even if zed gets meri tread, if he even gets hit by 1 cc, no worries, more cc will cc him once he is cc. The bolded part right there. Do you even know the concept of assassins? They are EARLY to mid game champs. They are MADE to get strong early, fall of late. Sheesh man. He's supposed to be this way. Seriously you are one biased, butthurt Zed main. > > as if those werent enough, retard riot decided it would be good to introduce stop watch, which again, nobody asked for, everyone complained, and their response was, " ok...we are going to put a timer on that thing so you cant use it within the first 8min of the game... "....how about you fuking just remove that shit? Even you fuking admit its kind of op and nerfed the first 8min so why dont you fuking remove it from the game? Not replying to that. > > zed's entire kit can be countered, even when he is fed, his mid and late game makes him soft, which kind of balance out his fedness. Unlike 90% of other champions, when THEY are fed, its hopeless, unkillable all while having insane amt. Sorry but no. He has a lot of his counterplay taken away from him so he's quite strong. It's just that higher elos know how to play against him so he's useless pretty much, that's why his winrate is low. And when Zed is fed, it is a hopeless game as he is almost unkillable as well with a ton of damage. > > share your thoughts on the current state of zed He's quite oppressive right now. Stop QQing man.
1. you said tanks was not the problem since season 6-8.......are you ok? The reason why so many pro quit league is because of so many players abusing tanks, making the game boring and unfair for people who dont play tanks. When you have a champion that can tank and deal a crap ton of dmg making him/her both the carry and tank discourage people who play this game to learn and get better, instead, thanks to tanks, people needs to change the entire meta just to play around the tanks because of how stupidly op they are. How? By picking tanks themselves. Now you have teams going 3-4 tanks with shit ton of cc and just rush omen, deadman, etc...you can imagine the outcome. Why even play the game? 2. if zhonya is barely counter, then nobody would buy them. Zhonyas's stats offers way more than ANY early items zed is offered so saying zhonya doesnt offer much is completely untrue. Zhonya not only offers a good deal of ap, armor, and an active to cancel out any burst, whiches already a unfair item to the wielder because it offers unfair advantage. Compare with maw?...thats not even an argument 3. try lethality vs armor and tell me again. This one is more false than your zhonya statement. I dont know how you not know the power armor way outweights the benefit of stacked letality since there are tanks abusing armor literally every game. 4. zed's poke deals half dmg if you just stay behind minions. He can only poke when his w is off cd ( 22s )...are you saying you cant poke zed when your poke is literally almost a third of his w cd AND you have range auto hits? 5. if assassins are early to mid then why is EVERY other assassins NOT early to mid except zed?...If assassins are early to mid then why even pick assassins at all? Its all about late game that WINS the game NOT early to mid game. Do you think riot is right when they make assassins only early to mid? for what reason? 6. higher elo doesnt even rush zhonyas, because they know hes useless more than any other elo. Just like yasuo. In high elo is all about team play, ganks, macro, turret, teamfight. Theres no room for solo killing for zed so they dont even need to engage onto zed because they know he will be useless late game. you've made a lot incorrect statements and majority of them arent even considered problems compare with the amount of counter zed has to deal with. Im assuming you dont play zed that much.
Nhifu (NA)
: I think duskblade electrocute nerfs hit Zed the hardest. Now we're back to control mages and praying bot doesn't feed.
the real problem isnt zeds dmg its his play style: his r back cd, his w animation speed, w cooldown. Making zed less smooth and more clunky you have lb, rengar, talon, fizz who can burst ANY champions down in a blink of an eye ALL WHILE being able to escape after they've killed their prey.
LBmyBB (NA)
: LeBlanc's dash is not less than 10 seconds unless you max the crap outa cdr, which is the case for literally anybody. LeBlanc is rendered useless when zed can literally just get mercs and hexdrinker. LeBlanc's theme is that the enemy is always guessing (if you're good). Zed can literally kill any class cuz of all the damage he can push out, especially with his ult. Zed's W is not necessarily his escape. It's called LIVING shadow, and it is also a damage tool. Not to mention he has one on his ult too that has no range limit. I ban zed almost every game cuz of this
1. doesnt matter if her dash is less than 10...its a lot less than 22s. Enemy will always catch up to zed before his w cd is up. 2. when lb wants to get away, she gets away almost always and enemies can never catch her. How often does she even get caught vs a zed or ANY other champion? 3. zed CANNOT kill any class, because EVERY class now goes stopwatch, tabi, armor, hp. Zeds doesnt have dmg, you can easily hide behind minions and his combo will do half dmg. Im not sure why you said zed has dmg because he is the ONLY assassin in this game who DOESNT have burst. This point has been point out since season 5 by many zed main like redmercy and azoh. 4. zed's w is for both escape and addition bonus dmg, but what happens when he needs to use it to escape? 22s...by the time your w cd is up the enemy champion chasing you would've used his/her gap closer at least 2x, and lets not forget about movement speed. zed dosent have movement speed bonus and when zed gets chased its usually the jg or adc, and they all have movement speed bonus in their skills.
99Palms (NA)
: 1. i never said assassinating tanks...i dont go towards tanks, tanks comes towards ZED. When they cc you nonstop and prevents you from even getting near the adc, whom already have their own cc and counter kit ( zhonya, ga ), how do you want zed to kill? 2. do you see midlaners rush zhonya as often as vs a zed? An ekko...a fukin ekko whos already a zed counter rushes stopwatch and then into a zhonya...do you play zed and see how unfair they go to counter zed? PURE abusing of armor, hp, zhonya EVEN when zed DOESNT even counter them. Do you know how useless zed becomes with just one of the items? He loses every single trade with skill shots and then gets his ult countered by stop watch/zhonya. 3. you do realized ap does more dmg and then ad right? You do realize hextach doesnt go off at times? You do realized if zed builds hex he wont be able to build into his core items which greatly reduces his dmg? You do realize zed can get hex, enemy can also go similar items with better stats then hex right?
who has more advantage 99% of the time? me with my hex+merc or enemy with stopwatch/zhonya, tabi, + ANY ap item + 300hp + ap? whos favored here zed or 99% of all the ap champions?
: >playing zed i get stomped by tanks EVERY game, doesnt matter if im 12/3, all tanks need are 2 tank items like omen and sunfire and i will do no dmg to them. Because you're a fucking assassin and aren't supposed to assassinate tanks ? > The problem with zed since his debut is that he has too many counters, his ult can be cancelled by zhonyas, ga, exhaust, heal, barrier, cc, flash. Like any other champion in the entire game ? > His dmg can easily be countered by armor making him losing EVERY trade when his opponent just goes ninja tabi, dorans, cloths. Yes because buying armor shouldn't reward you for sacrificing dps, meanwhile you get {{item:3155}} {{item:3111}} and are immune to any AP champion ?
1. i never said assassinating tanks...i dont go towards tanks, tanks comes towards ZED. When they cc you nonstop and prevents you from even getting near the adc, whom already have their own cc and counter kit ( zhonya, ga ), how do you want zed to kill? 2. do you see midlaners rush zhonya as often as vs a zed? An ekko...a fukin ekko whos already a zed counter rushes stopwatch and then into a zhonya...do you play zed and see how unfair they go to counter zed? PURE abusing of armor, hp, zhonya EVEN when zed DOESNT even counter them. Do you know how useless zed becomes with just one of the items? He loses every single trade with skill shots and then gets his ult countered by stop watch/zhonya. 3. you do realized ap does more dmg and then ad right? You do realize hextach doesnt go off at times? You do realized if zed builds hex he wont be able to build into his core items which greatly reduces his dmg? You do realize zed can get hex, enemy can also go similar items with better stats then hex right?
: Lol you said balanced
when i said balanced i dont mean in terms of comparing with other champions balance means his entire kit can be countered, and even when hes fed, he can be countered mid to late game with zhonya, ga, and tanks. So hes never those champions that once you get fed your the god killer and nobody can kill you like fizz, lb, talon, rengar. Even when zed is hyper fed he can still be killed/countered, which offers others a chance to make a come back. If im darius, riven, irelia, vlad, atrox, etc...good luck. thats what i meant be balanced
: V8.7 Razor Shuriken Razor Shuriken Secondary bonus AD ratio increased to 54% bonus AD from 45%. Secondary base damage increased to 48 / 69 / 90 / 111 / 132 from 40 / 57.5 / 75 / 92.5 / 110. V8.6 Razor Shuriken Razor Shuriken Secondary base damage reduced to 40 / 57.5 / 75 / 92.5 / 110 from 48 / 69 / 90 / 111 / 132. Secondary bonus AD ratio reduced to 45% bonus AD from 54%. REMOVED: Damage being reduced on shurikens that hit the same enemy. Death Mark Death Mark Percentage of damage stored increased to 25 / 40 / 55% from 20 / 35 / 45%. V8.4 Death Mark Death Mark Cooldown reduced to 120 / 90 / 60 seconds from 120 / 100 / 80. Nerfs? What are you talking about he's only been getting buffed. That's from his LoL wiki history.
go play a game of zed and see if those buffs made him viable vs tanks. zeds nerf is NOT about dmg numbers but his play style. They nerfed his r back and w speed which are both critical to zeds play style, making him slower and more easily cc able, meanwhile lb, rengar, talon, fizz...instant kill no reaction possible. those miner buffs doesnt do anything to tanks, brusers, or even adc with even a decent support.
: Assassins are not meant to kill tanks. They are meant to kill any squishy champion out of position - they need to earn their kills. Armor is currently a useless stat in the game, and all tanks are an troll pick auto-loss - majority being below 50% win rate. Bruisers, assassins, etc. 100-0ing a {{champion:54}} or {{champion:33}} isn't really balanced. If armor wasn't a useless stat, then it should suppose to counter AD assassins - that's what it is there for.
problem is he cant with SO many people abusing tanks and squishy with ga, support, shields, its very hard for zed to kill. And remember its not like adc doesnt have cc in their own kit to counter zed'a assassination, we are not talking about squishy standing their with no support, no cc, no dmg, we are talking about them with their own kit + support ALL while tanks surrounds them and instant cc who ever comes even NEAR their squishy, let alone killing them.
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