: I keep encountering people scripting on Kai'Sa and low elo players just think they are smurfs.
I literally just encountered what you are talking about. I played vs a new to ranked player with like an 80% winrate on KaiSa, but she was obviously scripting and not actually clicking to move around. Flashes on the pixel edge of stuns, etc. Super aggressive all in dives with perfect dodges. (This was in plat elo if you were wondering.) This thread came up when I was looking up where it could of come from. There's actually a bunch of websites with scripts for KaiSa and they apparently have a ton of people saying it works and they are using them. It's disgusting to see posts on those cheating websites, "Finally this script got me to diamond guys, you guys are gods for making this!" Like holy fking puke. Riot should really step in and do something about this. I know they've abandoned this forum and stuff, but seriously if any reds are reading this take a look into this cheating. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
saltran (EUW)
: >There's a reason Faker and Dopa main mid lane and have such crazy win rates there That's stupid, they have been midlane mains all their career, they wont switch to Jng because it's stronger and also it's worth to mention that Midlane is really close to Jng, both are the strongest roles and have been since the adc nerfs months ago. The problem I have about buffing jng as you say is that how would do this worse the Camille esque junglers that rule the rift now? With a easier jng would them just gank the same but also farm more since they would do it easier? Buffing the already strongest role is not viable, and if you want more viable picks on jng dont buff the weak ones, nerf the strong ones because powercreeping weak junglers now would be like buffing the weak adcs on Ardent meta because they cant compete to the top tier of their role that is op.
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JkYoaOqM,comment-id=00130000,timestamp=2018-12-02T01:37:32.672+0000) > > That's stupid, they have been midlane mains all their career, they wont switch to Jng because it's stronger and also it's worth to mention that Midlane is really close to Jng, both are the strongest roles and have been since the adc nerfs months ago. > > The problem I have about buffing jng as you say is that how would do this worse the Camille esque junglers that rule the rift now? With a easier jng would them just gank the same but also farm more since they would do it easier? > > Buffing the already strongest role is not viable, > and if you want more viable picks on jng dont buff the weak ones, nerf the strong ones because powercreeping weak junglers now would be like buffing the weak adcs on Ardent meta because they cant compete to the top tier of their role that is op. I'm not exactly sure what you said in that 2nd and 3rd part due to the wording and sentence structure(no offense maybe English isn't your first language, I get it.) But my rebuttal to what you are saying is this: -I agree nerfing OP champs such as Camille is necessary. Champs with those kinds of generalist overloaded kits are bad for the game as a whole. -There is this **HUGE **misunderstanding going around especially in lower elos (Plat and below generally) where those players want the jungle "nerfed" because the role is too strong, but they think that means making the jungle harder to do, offer less experience, etc will achieve this. Those kinds of changes actually** do not **fix the problem with the strength of jungling, and I know this because I've played this game since it's inception. I've seen those kinds of changes before, and understand the history behind those kinds of changes. What I do know is that back in the earlier seasons jungle was much more diverse and balanced because of it. There may be counter picks to Camille jungle that simply are just too weak to clear camps in a reasonable time frame, so thus since the counter pick is unviable to even jungle at all Camille and the small amount of top tier junglers reign supreme. While you could buff random champs hoping to make one good enough to dethorne Camille, once you do that you simply create another case of another oppressive jungler. Imagine if tomorrow Fiddlesticks was insanely buffed and could jungle versus Camille. You'd sure get sick of seeing him in every game insta-killing you at his newly buffed 1-shot ult with 9s fear and AOE drain. _(This is obviously an extreme example.)_ Balancing OP with OP is a dangerous and slipperly slope when it comes to MOBA games. I would say the best thing they could do is first make the jungle something anyone can do. Then as necessary nerf overly powerful champs such as Camille should they still be too strong. In my opinion that would get us closer towards not only a better, more fun game overall, but it could also lead us towards some semblance of balance.
: Just won and gained no lp
Just won a ranked game +0 LP. Rip. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
Rock MD (NA)
: NA, KR, and BR voted jg as the strongest role according to Meddler's QGT
Before you read on, this is all just "my opinion." I've been a jungle main since the beginning of S2. (Peaked D2) I think the issue with "nerfing" the jungle seems to be this mindset of "lets just keep taking away exp from junglers" and "making the jungle camps harder" which is the wrong way to go about it in my opinion. Imagine a world where jungle camps can literally 1 shot you. The only viable jungler would be Graves, and once he hit level 2 with red buff he'd do nothing but gank lanes all day. **Why farm the jungle if it is hard to do so, not worth much exp, and has little impact on the game over ganking?** _It warps the jungler's role down to some dude who just tries to body a lane over and over until the impact on the game has been made._ I could also see from a laner's perspective why the jungle role seems to be so annoying to play against, and borderline toxic for the game at times because of this. I believe the best way to balance jungling out is make the camps easy for **anyone** to jungle (aka League's earlier years.) Camps should be easy to do quickly, but also worth _just_ enough where power farming them will have a strategic outcome advantage over someone who ganks instead of farming. The ganking jungler will be punished for failing his gank a good chunk of the time and **THIS** is what tones down constant lane camping/ganking tactics. Because the other jungler is **actively winning the game** by out farming, counter ganking you, or out pathing you. It creates serious jungle counter play pressure against the jungling lane camper. The pathing part could even lead the power farming jungler to a lead up gank to another enemy lane since you revealed your position on the map in a failed first attempt gank. (Etc, etc.) Not only that but we would see tanks in the jungle again, and probably lots more diversity. (Rather than just Camille every time she isn't banned.) TL;DR -Harder jungle = Ganking is the highest priority. Very few junglers are viable. -Easier jungle = Pathing/Farming, Ganking, Countering all have close to equal value. Many junglers are viable. (We can see this from League's own history. This also assumes gold and exp from camps are properly adjusted for each scenario.) As a jungler I definitely don't feel jungle is the best role for winning/carrying games. I think that easily goes to mid lane. There's a reason Faker and Dopa main mid lane and have such crazy win rates there. I also feel support is stronger at the moment is than jungle. Heck my support win rate is way higher than my jungle win rate, and I feel even when I'm behind as a support I have more options to come back and win the game than if I was just some stat-checky jungler. (A lot of meta junglers are stat-checky at the moment.)
: > [{quoted}](name=APgamesRelay4lol,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEvFLA17,comment-id=0026,timestamp=2018-11-15T08:08:41.230+0000) > > It's threads like this that make people not take the forums seriously. > > Seriously just learn to play from behind. It's crazy how many people only wanna play if they're ahead, and then just cry in afk in fountain if they're behind. > > That kind of attitude and behavior is why you can't climb. > It's why you're hard stuck 700 games with a 50/50 win rate. > It's why you think it's always your team. > Until you learn to change your attitude on games where you aren't ahead, and actually learn to play from behind you will enjoy your own personal elo hell. > > Giving up when you are behind is giving up a ton of games for free which doesn't equal gaining elo. It's not about that. Those who troll the ff vote are usually the instigators of toxicity soft int etc. They do not ff only because theres a chance of a comeback. They ff because they hate u and enjoy u having to suffer with them. Whats so hard to understand here.
> [{quoted}](name=WoodenCreature,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pEvFLA17,comment-id=00260000,timestamp=2018-11-15T08:31:19.062+0000) > > It's not about that. Those who troll the ff vote are usually the instigators of toxicity soft int etc. They do not ff only because theres a chance of a comeback. They ff because they hate u and enjoy u having to suffer with them. Whats so hard to understand here. Mute them instantly and then proceed to carry them. I don't care what grudge they just made up on the spot with me. My job is to win the game, not wave my Epeen at them to see who's bigger in chat. People play games with their emotions on their sleeves, and it will have a horrific affect on your long term performance if you let it. Once you're 10-0 and they are still 1-5 trying to cry in chat they may just shut up instead and play. _Especially if you don't reciprocate._ At the end of the day they will take a win over a loss even if they hate you for some kindergarten level reason. Things to keep in mind: -If you keep this mindset then only the enemy team can fall victim to those ragers/instigators of toxicity, which in turn means your main source of frustration becomes your source for free wins. (This adds up!) -Your back in any given elo needs to be strong enough to hold at least one troll. -Your team's main desire above all is always to win the game, even if they say or play otherwise. They will work to your advantage most often if you focus on this at all times. -After you WIN the game you can still report the toxic players which feels MUCH more satisfying IMO than reporting them after a loss.
: The score is 15-0 at 8 minutes. Stop holding the game hostage
It's threads like this that make people not take the forums seriously. Seriously just learn to play from behind. It's crazy how many people only wanna play if they're ahead, and then just cry in afk in fountain if they're behind. That kind of attitude and behavior is why you can't climb. It's why you're hard stuck 700 games with a 50/50 win rate. It's why you think it's always your team. Until you learn to change your attitude on games where you aren't ahead, and actually learn to play from behind you will enjoy your own personal elo hell. Giving up when you are behind is giving up a ton of games for free which doesn't equal gaining elo.
Sioń (NA)
: Riot... Please fix Sion (List of bugs on Q,E,R and autoattack)
As a fan of Sion lets get this fixed Rito! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}

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