: Just revert Aatrox
I mained old AAtrox and since the rework I've become a pyke main and proceeded to quit playing the game as of 6 months ago
Rioter Comments
: Do people really think old Aatrox took skill?
Also old aatrox took skill if you don’t count your abilities even when split pushing and some one engages on you your dead I normally had it left so a q would fill my blood well and they die and don’t even say aatrox takes as much skill as master yi because one presses q and autos and maybe r while the other has to choose to either heal a shit ton or deal a shit ton of damage you can and the ult took timing because it fills up your blood well 20% for each enemy hit so if you know your getting ganged wait to ult until both enemies are in range and you will prob come out on top because of the life steal and if you build ravenous,botrk,and spirit visage you can solo baron at lvl 14 you may have to ult and it takes a bit but you can if your fed I also got my first and only penta with him but he was just getting in the meta and now he’s gone and dead and riot destroyed my main and now he’s a spell caster with stupid cool downs and a dash that is only good with q other wise it is shitty and I made a post about it and the riot person said they don’t want a champ who can only be stopped with cc but master yi is worse and can’t even get hit cuz he’s untargetable half the time
: Do people really think old Aatrox took skill?
I mained aatrox and the rework is shit it may be a good champion in general (pretty good early game) but he isn’t aatrox anymore it’s riven 2.0 I’m going to go back to Ekko until riot gets their shit together
: Revert the Aatrox rework asap
IT DOESNT MATTER IF HES GOOD OR NOT ITS A REWORK AND A REWORK KEEPS THE GENERAL IDEA OF A CHAMPION AND CHANGES IT ALOT NOT MAKING A RIVEN 2.0 I LIKED PLAYING THE MASSIVE LIFESTEAL OR DAMAGE AATROX NOT THIS SPELL CASTER BULL SHIT BECAUSE I FUCKING MAINED OLD AATROX AND THEY TOOK OUT THE REASON PEOPLE LIKED HIM HE WAS AN AUTO ATTACK BASED CHAMP WITH MASSIVE LIFESTEAL AND DAMAGE AND 1v2 OR 3 IF YOUR FED ENOUGH NOW IF SOMEONE IS CAPABLE OF WALKING OR HAS A DASH OF SOME SORT YOUR ESSENTIALLY POINTLESS YOU USED TO JUMP ON THEM AND IF THEY ARE INCAPABLE OF KILLING YOU KILL THEM NOW HE MAY BE OP BUT HES NOT AATROX HES ESSENTIALLY A RIVEN REWORK.
AD Yuumi (NA)
: Or AoE gold card TF? There are SOME past things coming back BTW ;)
> [{quoted}](name=Riot jinxylord,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=yKk22n3O,comment-id=00100000,timestamp=2018-07-31T17:27:14.189+0000) > > Or AoE gold card TF? > > There are SOME past things coming back BTW ;) What about my child aatrox
: Revert new aatrox
I mean if some one has some mild mobility they can destroy aatrox also late game you just fall off because you just don’t deal enough damage and there isn’t enough healing and they took the skill out of the revive and moving while reviving is useless unless you have like a freaking god on your team that can protect you the second you res also if you think every champ that 1v2 or 3 and has a good early and late game then there is a lot of other champs like pantheon that a even worse old aatrox could be shut down with hard cc like a stun or root but now you destroy lane then late game you fall off also their cutting his q damage by 50% also if I told you last year that a rework would have a q that can be cast 3 times and knocks up on a certain part, a w that slows and pulls after a short delay,a very small dash that gives ad for like 1.5 secs and an ult that revives you and the longer it takes to die the more hp you get back idk who you would think but if I told you last year a rework would have a q that was a dash that reset if you killed a unit or hit a mark,a w that had damage resistance and an e that stuns and an ult that deals damage and forces people to fight you would prob think irelia because they kept some of the character but aatrox they legit essentially could of added a new champ because he went from auto attack based to ability based and the legit only similar thing is the blood well that doesn’t even work the same also old aatrox if you get him pre lvl 3,2 or 6 he’s essentially a dead man if you get and early gank but they freaking destroyed my main.
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Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00040000000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T15:39:37.503+0000) > > No he doesn’t people just don’t find him brain dead enough The only way Aatrox's kit could get any more braindead than it already is would be if his W never had to be toggled and would both heal and boost damage at the same time, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=000400000002000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T17:00:47.267+0000) > > The only way Aatrox's kit could get any more braindead than it already is would be if his W never had to be toggled and would both heal and boost damage at the same time, so I'm not quite sure what you're talking about. You also have to pay attention to your blood well and when your next W attack will go off so that you can fill your blood well effectively and when to use your ultimate or Q and e for poke or just the blood well. Also cool downs are also something you should be aware of because at early ranks Qs cooldown makes you have to use it effectively.
Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=000400000002000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T14:29:56.574+0000) > > Fiora is kind of a bigger problem and more common than aatrox The difference is they can tune Fiora without reworking her and she would be fine, even if that meant taking the true damage from her ult and making it physical (which is basically her whole problem, she shouldn't have true damage). They can't do that with Aatrox because **he needs a new kit**.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=0004000000020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T14:57:46.915+0000) > > The difference is they can tune Fiora without reworking her and she would be fine, even if that meant taking the true damage from her ult and making it physical (which is basically her whole problem, she shouldn't have true damage). They can't do that with Aatrox because **he needs a new kit**. No he doesn’t people just don’t find him brain dead enough
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-06T23:43:10.279+0000) > > It’s not my fault that people don’t want to play a champ that they think is bad. Even tho he’s ridiculously good with a crap ton of sustained also a lot of damage. COUGH MAX W COUGH. U can prob guess form my name that I main aatrox so I’m really salty. I at least want him to be something like really complicated so I can flash that mastery emote. oh don't get me wrong, I love playing Aatrox, I think he is fun to play especially when you max W, and heal for just soooo much during a 1v1 duel. Its just a lot of players don't like him, and its shitty. Like old urgot, god I fucking loved playing him on my main back in the day. He was considered the worst champion but he was SO FUCKING GOOD and they ruined him with the rework, I really just hope they don't do the same to Aatrox.
> [{quoted}](name=Herald Est Mors,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T03:18:39.627+0000) > > oh don't get me wrong, I love playing Aatrox, I think he is fun to play especially when you max W, and heal for just soooo much during a 1v1 duel. Its just a lot of players don't like him, and its shitty. Like old urgot, god I fucking loved playing him on my main back in the day. He was considered the worst champion but he was SO FUCKING GOOD and they ruined him with the rework, I really just hope they don't do the same to Aatrox. I agree with you completely even tho I’m newer to league some reworks are good some are bad also they should add a darkin event
Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=0004000000020000,timestamp=2018-06-06T23:45:32.889+0000) > > I also don’t think the community likes pantheon of Fiora just destroying because of the damage and sustain. The community generally doesn't, but this and that are two different things. Just because Aatrox has had work planned for years does not mean that Pantheon and Fiora won't be changed eventually too, it just means we don't know anything concrete yet. > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2018-06-06T23:47:43.533+0000) > > I mean yeah but I’m an aatrox main and I’m kinda not a god so he’s one of they few champs I can play so it really annoys me because if a champ isn’t fun it’s not my fault and maybe in another meta at some time he may be popular. He's not allowed to be popular because there is no decision making involved with playing as or against him - either he wins every fight because he had more stats, or he doesn't win any fights because he didn't have more stats. There is no outplay potential or skill expression on either side of the match up. If he gets popular what comes next is "nerf him immediately until he stops being played again," because that's all they can do with his current kit.
> [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00040000000200000000,timestamp=2018-06-07T03:30:54.365+0000) > > The community generally doesn't, but this and that are two different things. Just because Aatrox has had work planned for years does not mean that Pantheon and Fiora won't be changed eventually too, it just means we don't know anything concrete yet. > > He's not allowed to be popular because there is no decision making involved with playing as or against him - either he wins every fight because he had more stats, or he doesn't win any fights because he didn't have more stats. There is no outplay potential or skill expression on either side of the match up. If he gets popular what comes next is "nerf him immediately until he stops being played again," because that's all they can do with his current kit. Fiora is kind of a bigger problem and more common than aatrox
: > [{quoted}](name=ShaolinToilet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2018-06-07T00:31:24.594+0000) > > I don't think you understand aatrox very much. He might auto attack a lot but he still has way more skill expression than yi and Jax with his ult and q Jax I agree with. Yi is a bit more complex, as at his surface this is 100% true, but at the highest levels of Yi play he has a bit more he can do with Meditate and Alpha Strike decision and gameplay-wise than Aatrox. But yes, both of those characters are fairly binary as well.
Yi is so brain dead like I played a game with him jg because of the quest and I went like 20/3 and I’m not a good yi I USED NIMBUS CLOAK and the new essence reaver doesn’t help.it just makes him freaking untargetable for the entire fight then their team dies.
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-06-05T21:33:13.416+0000) > > It’s also annoying that riot is working on aatrox while you could fix champs like that are so over powered that it’s not okay like pantheon or perhaps Fiora cough max health % true damage cough like there is more pressing matters than a champ that isn’t fun. They said Aatrox was one of the most requested reworks by the community. His thematics are awesome but his kit just lacks the oomph to back them up. Personally I'm looking forward to it after how well Irelia turned out. I mean, yeah she's kinda OP but her gameplay still retains a lot of her old roots and is just a better version of the champion.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2018-06-05T21:39:35.361+0000) > > They said Aatrox was one of the most requested reworks by the community. His thematics are awesome but his kit just lacks the oomph to back them up. Personally I'm looking forward to it after how well Irelia turned out. I mean, yeah she's kinda OP but her gameplay still retains a lot of her old roots and is just a better version of the champion. I mean yeah but I’m an aatrox main and I’m kinda not a god so he’s one of they few champs I can play so it really annoys me because if a champ isn’t fun it’s not my fault and maybe in another meta at some time he may be popular.
Audhulma (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Aatrox Lord,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-06-05T21:33:13.416+0000) > > It’s also annoying that riot is working on aatrox while you could fix champs like that are so over powered that it’s not okay like pantheon or perhaps Fiora cough max health % true damage cough like there is more pressing matters than a champ that isn’t fun. I'll put it to you like this, either he gets a rework or they keep him nerfed so that he's never played, and doesn't succeed at anything. Those are the options. The community would rather have him be a better design that can be balanced so people can actually play him, than have him be played by .0001% of the community (and lose matches for your team when they pick him). He's been on the rework list for years now. Just to remind you, it was the same situation with old Poppy - they even had a rule that if she ever made it into a pro match for any reason she would immediately be nerfed.
I also don’t think the community likes pantheon of Fiora just destroying because of the damage and sustain.
: > [{quoted}](name=Dreamspitter,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=bdY9YyKM,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-06-06T13:41:23.325+0000) > > You can in fact get drag at level 2. People argue about whether this is actually useful or not unless it's fire. well yeah, he is good, the problem is he takes a brain to play, timing passive with ability useage, and being able to know when to engage to time it all right, and a lot of players don't play him because they take his required skill to play as in, "he isn't super braindead so he isn't good", and its a sad fact, but its true
It’s not my fault that people don’t want to play a champ that they think is bad. Even tho he’s ridiculously good with a crap ton of sustained also a lot of damage. COUGH MAX W COUGH. U can prob guess form my name that I main aatrox so I’m really salty. I at least want him to be something like really complicated so I can flash that mastery emote.
: Stat check, and his ult is super lame. I think his Q is fine, his E isn't pointless but it's not really a fun thing. I think his W should essentially be his passive and change all of his abilities. It'd also be cool if it was like rageblade where it'd stack and do more for each auto attack in a given period
It’s also annoying that riot is working on aatrox while you could fix champs like that are so over powered that it’s not okay like pantheon or perhaps Fiora cough max health % true damage cough like there is more pressing matters than a champ that isn’t fun.
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: What happened to Lissandra's new passive?
She was already good against melee champs because 1 w and e=freedom
: > [{quoted}](name=The Sword Saint,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=m4mPoAcm,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-03-30T19:06:05.837+0000) > > You talk like she's the only champion who is good at setting up jungler ganks. Tanks like Malphite, divers like wukong, mages like lissandra, and more who go toplane can all basically guarantee that the jungler has an easy time ganking the lane if you happen to be over extended without being strong enough to just kill the jungler or enemy laner if you get ganked. None of those **literally** keep you CCed for 4 seconds, which already breaks the unspoken rule of 3 being the upper limit, with **zero** methods of escape. The issue is compounded by the fact that she's incredibly mobile. You don't have to be out of position, you just have to not be under tower.
If u got a cc problem why not complain about Liss her q,w,r all apply cc w roots r stuns and q slows
: @Riot Why is there no counterplay to Camille ult?
I played against Camille and i was Lissandra and if you want to counter her ult buy Liss and her ult makes her invulnerable for the majority of Camille’s ult
: Why is lissandra not seen more often?
She has a crap ton of cc and has a rather good damage output but I’ve been thinking of getting like a lich bane or something to make my autos deal more damage
Catify (NA)
: Is Lissandra a good champion to master?
She in my opinion is good I just played her the second time but the enemy Camille got demolished and the cc makes it so that if you get tower dived you can slow/root/q/q/q/ult if needed and she has rather high burst also if something like Camille or reksai ults you can r to go invulnerable for the duration or just to dodge it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Chroma Spell,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=07AQkghg,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-03-15T01:51:25.955+0000) > > She has her passive and she can get a mana item {{item:3027}} getting rod is time spent not getting locket/redemption/sightystone
What if you don’t even bother getting those items
: In terms of assassins Talon and Katarina are very good. * Talon is personally my main, and I love him, I'm pretty much a one trick at this point. He's a lot of fun and, especially in low elo, it's fun to see the enemy not expecting your level 2 cheese. -He excels at roaming mainly, because really his only mobility is his wall jumps. He roams very effectively and if you do it right you can go right around common warding spots. -Be careful if you do play him though. He is in a pretty bad spot right now. He's getting buffed tomorrow but not by a ton. I think he'll get more in 8.5. We'll see though. * Katarina is also very good, but takes a lot more skill to play. I haven't played her in a while but it seems like she's pretty strong right now and for good reasons. -She has pretty good poke in lane and you can get an easy electrocute proc off by Qing and Eing to the blade as long as it's very close to the person. -She has a ton of mobility and can easily juke skillshots and out-maneuver opponents. This also helps, along with her AOE passive and ult, to make her very strong in teamfights. In terms of mages like Viktor I'd have to say Orianna and Taliyah. * Orianna is a very strong champion in SoloQ and LCS. She brings many things to a team and can fill many niches fairly well. -She has a pretty strong laning phase because of her long-range poke and the ability to Q-W very fast before most players can dodge it. She also has her shield to win trades and help out teammates in ganks or skirmishes. - Her ulti makes her very good in teamfights if used well. It can take some time to perfect her ulti but when you do it's pure gold. Be prepare to have your genital sucked all night if you consistently land 3+ person ults, as you can solo-carry just by having this skill. * Taliyah is decently strong for slightly different reasons, but still can be played effectively in SoloQ and LCS. -She is very combo-reliant so if you can't land her combos you will do almost nothing. It took me until I got mastery 4 on her to get the hang of her combo (E-W-Q), but for some people it comes naturally. -Her ulti makes her one of the better mages for roaming because she can flank laners with relative ease from a pretty good distance, especially at ulti rank 2-3. I would give you Viktor tips, but I haven't played him much so I don't know much about him. Sorry! ^.^ EDIT: Sorry if the formatting is weird, I don't really know what happened lol
I freaking can’t play taliyah to save my life but my sister is an ori main also I am absolute trash with Katarina but I might try ori Thx
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Infernape (EUW)
: That's not a bug. If you use an ability on a Riposting Fiora, the ability itself is negated completely.
Either way don’t you think that’s a little op
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: You should always get level 2 if you are a jungler, though you HAVE to have the jungle item first, Either Hunter's Machete{{item:1041}}, or Hunter's Talisman{{item:1039}}, if you take any item other then those you do not get full XP from the jungle camps.
Ok thx dude sometimes I forget or play like kassadin jg cuz I’m bored and don’t get it thx tho
: When I get red or blue buff at the start of the game why do I finish still at lvl 1
: Well, he's not Ezreal so he's not the best. http://www.auplod.com/u/pdolua802d6.png
We get the point your a taric fan boy along with ezreal
l MrD l (NA)
: from my own experience... You build AP right? too squishy for team fights... and not much damage compared to others when splitting... i feel like ok he can do well in skirmishes but thats it... lol
My build is ryalis Crystal Scepter and liandrys and then I get deadmans plate then trinity force and if I want to be a terrible person warmogs or rabadons
: Is Mordekaiser good
My build is ryalis Crystal Scepter and liandrys and then I get deadmans plate then trinity force and if I want to be a terrible person warmogs or rabadons
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