: > [{quoted}](name=AbyssalSino ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lw4FpgE9,comment-id=0001000100010000,timestamp=2018-04-06T02:08:09.869+0000) > > And this isn't toxic? That was very passive aggressive. You called me pathetic and said GJ for getting permed. Banworthy. Thats how the system works. Actually it is not ban-worthy to state the truth on the boards, no matter how much you dislike said truth. Far under 1% of players get banned that fast, and apparently under 1% get permbans at all.
- Defends an automated system as if theres a human on the other end analyzing whos right and whos wrong. - Calls me incredibly toxic but is just as toxic himself and justifies it by saying he can’t get banned on the boards. Oh dear god. You lost this argument the moment you turned out be just as toxic as the people you condemn. Stating the truth is what gets you banned ingame.
: First off this isn't the competitive spirit. Second of all why are you putting Game life into Real life? Someone picks on me real life would I say they need mental help like I do in the game. That's like saying Someone killed me in COD and decided to kill them in real life. Second of all someone who was gold and got stuck in silver should not be saying anything, unless this is one of those, "Smurfs but I am a challenger player accounts i swear".
Said the guy who has played the game for years and has yet to be able to leave G5. I had 180ping on NA and i play on EUW, where i'm plat 2. Again you can't understand the mental state one is in when you're playing competitively trying to climb, if you did you wouldn't be hardstuck gold 5.
: > [{quoted}](name=AbyssalSino ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lw4FpgE9,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2018-04-06T01:23:24.431+0000) > > Seriously? lol? "Calling people retards, saying they need mental help, flaming them all game?" You can't be serious. I don't mind getting banned but you're so ignorant. The system is automated, and that is a decent enough explanation. > > I called one guy a retard, only once. "Calling people retards"? > > When someone goes off on 4 people for absolutely no reason, it's toxic to tell them that they need mental help? You wouldn't tell someone that they need mental help if they pushed you around IRL for no reason? > > Flaming them all game? Most of the chat is about me trying to communicate with the team and shotcalling. > > EDIT: You've played the game for years and low silver is the highest you've scored and you hardly play any ranked. You're bad at the game and you can't understand the competitive spirit so your opinion on this is 100% irrelevant. Stay on the boards pretending to do something good. Yes it is grounds for a ban, regardless of what you think. Attacking someone because they are not performing as well as you want wont make them perform better - all it does is negatively impact the game and player attitudes. Your choice of language was extremely offensive and completely nonconstructive. Your attitude is incredibly toxic, and the fact you descend into irrelevant personal attacks is pathetic and just undermines your point. Incidentally i am actually gold, not silver. You can even see it next to my username. Check before you flame, maybe make sure you are checking the right things as well. And no, i dont play ranked, because it is full of people like you that i would rather not interact with. Also GJ getting permed by lv30, that makes you an amazing toxic rarity, less than one out of ten thousand.
> Your attitude is incredibly toxic, and the fact you descend into irrelevant personal attacks is pathetic and just undermines your point. > Check before you flame, maybe make sure you are checking the right things as well. > And no, i dont play ranked, because it is full of people like you that i would rather not interact with. > Also GJ getting permed by lv30, that makes you an amazing toxic rarity, less than one out of ten thousand. And this isn't toxic? That was very passive aggressive. You called me pathetic and said GJ for getting permed. Banworthy. Thats how the system works.
: > I called one guy a retard, only once. That's still one time too many. > When someone goes off on 4 people for absolutely no reason, it's toxic to tell them that they need mental help? You wouldn't tell someone that they need mental help if they pushed you around IRL for no reason? Yes, it is toxic, as you're just going off on that one person for absolutely no reason, and now three other players have to deal with two flamers. No, I wouldn't tell someone they need mental help - I'd tell them to step down. You seem to take things to illogical extremes, truth be told. > EDIT: You've played the game for years and low silver is the highest you've scored and you hardly play any ranked. You're bad at the game and you can't understand the competitive spirit so your opinion on this is 100% irrelevant. Stay on the boards pretending to do something good. First of all; player's rank doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if someone's Bronze V, Challenger, in-between, or have never played Ranked. They're still playing the same game as you, and their rank doesn't somehow make their comments/opinions irrelevant. (Besides, if you're going to say his opinion is irrelevant because he's low-silver and hardly plays ranked, _maaaaaaybe_ you shouldn't be saying that from an unranked account? Just sayin'.) Second; competitive spirit usually _stays in-line with the rules of the game you're playing_. If you're playing golf and you start cussing out someone for getting better scores than you, you're not being competitive, you're being an asshole. If you're playing Soccer and slug someone because they missed a kick, that's _also_ being an asshole. Likewise, flaming your teammates, harassing them, calling them "retard" or "disgusting silver", etc. - _that's not competitive spirit. That's being an asshole._
> That's still one time too many. You took it out of its context. He said "calling people retards" while the proof says i called one guy a retard, and everyone on that team did agree. > Yes, it is toxic, as you're just going off on that one person for "absolutely no reason", and now three other players have to deal with two flamers. > No, I wouldn't tell someone they need mental help - I'd tell them to step down. You seem to take things to illogical extremes, truth be told. So in no case would you tell someone they needed mental help cause it could break their poor little heart? I don't know what to tell you if you believe this. Acting like an innocent godsent angel that has never done anything remotely negative, laughable. Just cause you tell someone to step down if they push you around, doesn't mean the rest of the world has to react in the exact same way and that also doesn't make how others react differently wrong in any way. Your argument is sooo weak, trying to defend an automated system that solely bans people after curse words. > First of all; player's rank doesn't matter. It doesn't matter if someone's Bronze V, Challenger, in-between, or have never played Ranked. They're still playing the same game as you, and their rank doesn't somehow make their comments/opinions irrelevant. > (Besides, if you're going to say his opinion is irrelevant because he's low-silver and hardly plays ranked, maaaaaaybe you shouldn't be saying that from an unranked account? Just sayin'.) > Second; competitive spirit usually stays in-line with the rules of the game you're playing. If you're playing golf and you start cussing out someone for getting better scores than you, you're not being competitive, you're being an asshole. If you're playing Soccer and slug someone because they missed a kick, that's also being an asshole. > Likewise, flaming your teammates, harassing them, calling them "retard" or "disgusting silver", etc. - that's not competitive spirit. That's being an asshole. You wouldn't say this if you weren't gold 5 lmao. Rank matters in every way, it is easy to speak as you do when you're out of the game and not playing competitively. It's a competitive game and you're forced to co-operate with total strangers. It's only natural that people clash and argue. Who are you to say otherwise? Look, i really don't care about getting banned but please shut the fuck up if you came here to throw around useless arguments. The system is automated and nothing else can be said.
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: If people can't keep their cool and they're punishment has to be a ban then good riddance, we don't need people in this game who are constantly getting punished, yes people are bound to clash but that doesn't mean they should.
You say that but what you just said was pretty negative and passive aggressive. Also **"Yes people are bound to clash but that doesn't mean they should.** I beg your pardon?
: I get where you're coming from sir. Don't want to punish people for being people. I also sympathize from Riot's standpoint, though. They have a pretty clear standard that they expect players to live up to, and that we agree to. It also kind of sounds like you're saying that the second a player starts cussing they get a perma-ban. Except for extreme cases, that just about never happens. Players typically receive multiple warning penalties before a perma-ban would ever be considered.
I lurk alot on the player behavior section of the boards, and it seems to me that most of the players that are punished are not people that recklessly bully others but people that have fallen into a two sided argument, which not always consists of flaming. What i don't understand is, when two people think differently. They're bound to clash, why is there such strict rules and punishments against this? This ofcourse adds up and eventually results in a permanent ban.
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: Didn't you post this once already today? Let dead threads die.
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archerno1 (EUNE)
: How can you hide under bush? Like, buish is rooted in the ground...
> [{quoted}](name=archerno1,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JHkH9tET,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-03T19:08:40.971+0000) > > How can you hide under bush? Like, buish is rooted in the ground... Ez, turn into a mole.
: Was this the only game? And by not muting, you chose to be the bully victim.
The suspension followed up right after this game happened, so it's this game that matters. I just hate it that they got the joy of getting the report feedback despite them being the toxic ones.
: how do you know he is roaming free? just because you got banned does not mean they did not get banned as well
I know they havn't recieved a suspension cause i still remember their names and looked it up just today. They're still playing.
: You don't need to mock and insult them, that just helps ensure no constructive discussion ever takes place, so I've removed your last comment. Try to give them respect whether they've earned it or not. If you have questions or concerns about this action please visit us in the [Moderation Discord here.](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) https://i.gyazo.com/60dae3aaeeb6bf71919cf40fc9e2213e.gif
I'm a human being, i get angry, i get upset. Human things. I believe that i was wrongly punished, i get real life death threats thrown my way and people are acting as if i was in the wrong here.
: > Despite all of their insults i did not throw A SINGLE insult back Really? >AbyssalSino : congratz lowlife premade standing up for eachother AbyssalSino : someone loan this kid a dictionary Now while you may not have used instant ban behavior you are definitely a very negative and harassing individual. You are constantly harping on your team mates for any slight you perceive. You are threatening reports and aggravating a already negative experience for other players. >AbyssalSino : you killed my double AbyssalSino : with that tp AbyssalSino : i had them both So a person tried to make a tp play and you take the time to harass them. >AbyssalSino : poor boy AbyssalSino : learn to follow up and i will do the same AbyssalSino : this is why i dont follow up AbyssalSino : and i won't do it again Now you are flat out telling your team you won't help them because they "didn't follow up" Also "poor boy" is very condescending. >AbyssalSino : i just saw how you flashed on evelynn AbyssalSino : and still failed to get the kill AbyssalSino : pretty ironic to call others bad AbyssalSino : evelynn remember when trundle flashed on you? AbyssalSino : well yeah trundle is flaming me and calling me bad Harassing a player for a miss play and then bringing in the enemy team as a humiliation tactic is not exactly what good sportmanship is...... >AbyssalSino : can you report our toxic duo thanks No need to ask for reports and can be considered harassment. >AbyssalSino : leona what did you do there lol AbyssalSino : idk, do you? More harassment. >AbyssalSino : 0/5 AbyssalSino : dont die? And again. >AbyssalSino : enjoy your reports AbyssalSino : ur the one toxic Why? So seriously tell me how this accomplishes anything other then making the situation worse. >AbyssalSino : thats a death threat AbyssalSino : enjoy ur report AbyssalSino : enjoy ur ban AbyssalSino : death threats are insta bans ......why..... No don't answer. I don't care anymore. You deserve a punishment. Also please remember that the next tier is a perma ban.
1. They both threatened to kill me, and both denied and stood up for eachother in ALL chat. Was in the wrong here to call them lowlives? That's the truth. 2. Kept saying i was crying through the entire game, i asked someone to loan the kid a dictionary. Not an insult. 3. I was pretty friendly with that guy, really. I got ganked mid, he got worried and TP'd to scare them off. All i said was i had that double if he didn't use his TP to scare them off. 4. I followed up and died, and was apparently reported for intentionally feeding. Isn't it normal to not want to follow up again? 5. He was calling me bad through the entire game and i thought i'd point out a misplay he made. Nobodys perfect. 6. He mentioned my KDA and i mentioned that his wasn't way better. 7. They were trying to the turn the other two teammates against me, couldn't just let that happen. They were the ones who were toxic. 8. Real life death threats is the maximum level of toxic. Should results in a ban in EVERY SINGLE GAME.
Xyzx (NA)
: looks like you're the one who needs an english class guy, as you don't know the meaning of harassment.
Look at the text log and feel free to tell me who and how i "harassed" anyone.
Chermorg (NA)
: Harass (v): make repeated small-scale attacks on (an enemy). You definitely made repeated small-scale attacks directed at the "enemy" (in this case your teammate you were unhappy with).
Look at the text log and feel free to tell me who and how i "harassed" anyone.
Chermorg (NA)
: He never said it was legal. Don't put words in his mouth. Argument invalid.
If i get banned for saying someone deserves a ban while someone else threatens to kill people and still roams freely without a suspension that is what it indicates. Your argument is once again invalid and you seem to not understand english
: > AbyssalSino : poor boy > AbyssalSino : enjoy ur report > AbyssalSino : enjoy ur ban > AbyssalSino : death threats are insta bans > AbyssalSino : trundle threatening me with death > AbyssalSino : congratz lowlife premade standing up for eachother > AbyssalSino : what a surprise > AbyssalSino : someone loan this kid a dictionary > AbyssalSino : so he can see what crying means while on their own they are not a ban worthy sentence all of them together are, you can not really talk about banning someone or "enjoy the ban" as its against the rules (from what i heard other people talk on the board) if you have a toxic duo just mute them and report them after game
Talking about someone deserving a ban is against the rules, but threatening someone with death is very much legal? Argument invalid.
Chermorg (NA)
: You can choose to mute them, or you can choose to get permanently banned if you keep it up. You say you won't be convinced you were wrong. Alright, I won't try and convince you you were wrong. <removed by moderation>
A game where a chat exists and communication is key, you come here with the argument. "Permanently mute everyone or get permanently banned yourself" Argument invalid. Your logic is just as flawed as your very existence.
Xyzx (NA)
: Then don't mute, harass back and get banned that's your choice, enjoy yourself.
Define "Harassing". You seem to need a few english classes, i'd be open to teach you a few things about the english language. This is not how life works and games shouldn't work like that.
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Glory97 (EUW)
: Why? Zyra is a support now and that's ok
No it's not ok. She's not a support, her primary role is still mid and her kit is inferior to that of any midlaner.
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: > [{quoted}](name=AbyssalSino ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PRlEKXTp,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-02-23T00:29:04.552+0000) > > Zyra is no longer a plant and that&#x27;s what bothers me. http://www.quickmeme.com/img/74/745683f7fd74174e46321cece0c7ccd01df9e4590f66589f2282120c90ccebd7.jpg
> [{quoted}](name=MastaChief 11219,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PRlEKXTp,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2017-02-23T01:04:15.744+0000) > > http://www.quickmeme.com/img/74/745683f7fd74174e46321cece0c7ccd01df9e4590f66589f2282120c90ccebd7.jpg Then you comment on my thread for what reason? Ignorance at it's finest.
: Um... her skins would be pretty underwhelming if they were all just variations on plants. Not that seasonal wouldn't be cool, but it's more interesting to see things that push the limits, like Pentakill Mordekaiser or forsaken Jayce.
I can't agree. There's so many things you can do with plants, her skins can look entirely different, different levels of cool, fancy, eerie but still be inspired from plants. There are beautiful plants, scary plants, cool plants. There are just as many different types of plants as there is animals. If they put enough work into it, every plant skin would be amazing and not even close to underwhelming. Look at Hecarims skins for example, he's still a horse in all of his skins but all his skins are amazing and not even close to underwhelming. That's what i want for Zyra.
: With that logic, Renekton shouldn't have a lifeguard skin because he's a crocodile.
You don't understand what i'm trying to say, the lifeguard skin on crocodile is a creative and good skin. The predator goes lifeguard, he's still a crocodile. Zyra is no longer a plant and that's what bothers me. Would you want a skin where hecarim is turned into a worm, a skin where cassiopeia is a horse and a skin where renekton is a sloth?
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Sharjo (EUW)
: Rise, my darlings. - Seemingly a Zyra Skin Teaser
Ffs... As a Zyra main i'm not at all excited about this, those 3 years waiting for a Zyra skin i was hoping it wouldn't be void or program.. I told myself, anything but void or program. I thought zombie Zyra was enough bs but here comes even more bs.. Why do they have to leave the plant theme? Why not Lotus Zyra? Elderwood Zyra? Seasonal Zyra? FREAKING DANDELION ZYRA? I'm tilted. Bye.
: > [{quoted}](name=AbyssalSino ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xrljo2bU,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2016-11-01T02:38:16.018+0000) > > All the arguments to why Zyra is not a viable mid laner is completely false and irrelevant. This is coming from a Zyra (MID) main who has over 2K games only on the midlane on several different accounts. Zyra mid does exactly what she does on the botlane but on a much larger scale. She completely zones out the enemy midlaner and the leftover seeds spread around the lane from her passive is enough to get her a double if she happens to get ganked. > > The only reason she&#x27;s considered a support is because of the LCS puppets who can&#x27;t think for themselves, it&#x27;s the same people that once said Miss Fortune support is a troll pick and now play it themselves after seeing it on the LCS. Simple clueless dogs. > > The only reasn she was brought to the botlane is cause her burst is intimidating, the seeds lying on the ground gives the enemy little to no chance to go all in and if they happen to go in almost every fight is bound to end in her favour cause of the plants. She can completely zone out the enemy botlane on her own and keep the ADC safe. The reason AND only reason she&#x27;s not played alot in the midlane is cause of her lack of mobility, thats it. She is a mage brought to the botlane, not a support. > > > @MISTERHEALYOGIRL > If you&#x27;re sitting in a lane as mid Zyra and waiting for someone to dive your seed zone so you can do something, then sir you&#x27;re doing something wrong. She&#x27;s a burst/poke mage. > > @POPCORN CHICK3N > Before making false assumptions first learn to hit an ability. Just cause you can&#x27;t hit her Q doesn&#x27;t mean she&#x27;s an unviable midlaner. Lmao. > > @Limms > Her Q is what lets her play aggressive. Not E. You sound salty as hell and I do play her mid when I get a chance. If you can't take other people opinions about her being good or bad mid laner then stay away from the board. Trust me, any experience player can dumpster mid Zyra if play correctly, especially assassins and my landing is on point as a Zyra main. The new shape just make it a lot harder to hit compared to the old one. You can't say Zyra new Q is easier to hit compared to Brand W (old Zyra Q hit box). Go ask Melyn or other high elo one trick pony Zyra main about the new Q. The only good shit about her new Q is to summon plants and that's it.
"Any experienced player can dumpster Zyra mid if play correctly". Not true, a champion is as good as the person playing it. Any experienced Zyra can dumpster anyone if played correctly, same goes for other champions. Any Soraka mid can dumpster anyone in the midland if played correctly. It's sad how you play a champion so much and still haven't discovered the true potential. Just cause you get tossed around in the midlane as Zyra doesn't mean everyone does. Her new Q is hard to hit, yes. Impossible? No. Do i win lanes with Zyra mid? Most likely. The only champions i struggle against is Yasuo and Leblanc. You should play her mid more often, eventually you'll find it easier to land your Q.
: > she isn't meant for support, she's a primary mid laner who CAN support zyra is played support and has always been meta as a support = she's a support.
No, she is not a support. She is a midlaner brought to the botlane cause of her ability to zone.
: Nerf Zyra's base damage for the love of god plz
Zyra is not supposed to be a support though
: Why Zyra isn't a mid/flex pick?
All the arguments to why Zyra is not a viable mid laner is completely false and irrelevant. This is coming from a Zyra (MID) main who has over 2K games only on the midlane on several different accounts. Zyra mid does exactly what she does on the botlane but on a much larger scale. She completely zones out the enemy midlaner and the leftover seeds spread around the lane from her passive is enough to get her a double if she happens to get ganked. The only reason she's considered a support is because of the LCS puppets who can't think for themselves, it's the same people that once said Miss Fortune support is a troll pick and now play it themselves after seeing it on the LCS. Simple clueless dogs. The only reasn she was brought to the botlane is cause her burst is intimidating, the seeds lying on the ground gives the enemy little to no chance to go all in and if they happen to go in almost every fight is bound to end in her favour cause of the plants. She can completely zone out the enemy botlane on her own and keep the ADC safe. The reason AND only reason she's not played alot in the midlane is cause of her lack of mobility, thats it. She is a mage brought to the botlane, not a support. @MISTERHEALYOGIRL If you're sitting in a lane as mid Zyra and waiting for someone to dive your seed zone so you can do something, then sir you're doing something wrong. She's a burst/poke mage. @POPCORN CHICK3N Before making false assumptions first learn to hit an ability. Just cause you can't hit her Q doesn't mean she's an unviable midlaner. Lmao. @Limms Her Q is what lets her play aggressive. Not E.
: Favorite quote of your main
"Our seasons are reversed. My spring, your FALL" - Zyra {{champion:143}}
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