: 1. disable enemy emotes 2. disable cross chat, if your chatting with enemy your a crappy jungler 3. time is money, seriously every second your not ganking something or farming something is another second you fall behind their jungler. 4. focus on the lanes you can gank, your top might be spamming riven / singed but lets face it outside of a few champion combos your unlikely to get a kill there let alone summoners, sure if you have nothing else to do show up to see if they panic flash but thats it. 5. Those are 3 very different champions drop 2 and play just the one, i'd recommend either rammus or ww to play as shyv is too conditional. 6. Rammus likes his runes done right, rammus likes precision secondary, rammus loves attack speed bloodline, rammus likes maxing Q a lot like lots lots.
So practice routes, take towers, and don't stand off to the side too long? Ok, and I have seen a lot more Darius and Garen in my normal games than Riven.
: I seriously recommend checking out Skill Capped! They go incredibly in depth on macro play, and answer your questions on wave control, map presence, vision, when/how to roam, etc. Here's the link to their channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCFl1mGlf5j0Qno1Kxnyv6FA They produce a ton of content, and I've learned a great deal about the game through them. I hope this helps!
y0r1ck (NA)
: You're better off asking here https://www.reddit.com/r/supportlol/ Speaking of asking I don't see a question.
Thanks, here's my question How often should I be harassing the enemy later? I remember seeing a tip about certain item passives being unable to stack, what items can't be used together? What items should I be rushing as a Soraka player?
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: Behold! Yasuo mains beware!
Guys, even though I realized this and I know it is possible, I have yet to successfully do this consistently. It requires a lot of predicting since Yas isn't going to stay in one place
: They go past it both. One is a frontal beam, the other is a orbital cannon kind of attack. The only thing that Wind Wall can block is Xerath's E (the stun).
Hm, someone must have done a lot of experimenting.
: You could research and experiment with a defensive rune set. Runes and masteries are way more influential than most people give credit for. Me personally being able to switch from Aery for offense to Guardian for defense has helped significantly for my bot lane supporting. Maybe you can find a defensive rune set for your bad match-ups as A Sol?
I am glad that I spent a lot of BE on rune pages rather than champions then. I can simply get rid of rune pages on champions that I have yet to understand how to play/ master so I can make multiple builds for my picks.
: there are 13 popular ward spots for mid lane on blue side and 14 for red.
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: Those aren't the worst start but those "Rules of thumb" aren't completely good enough by themselves and can even leave you to making the wrong decisions like playing river ward side when the enemy jungler's route has nothing to do with that approach for example. Especially as you start to climb, you'll really wanna know what you're doing
The only other places I could think to ward would be the raptors on my side if I cant push or maybe the bush behind the blue buff camp? Edit: Because I want to be a decent player in every role since getting mid is not always guaranteed, I also thought playing the jungle role would help me with learning what routes certain junglers take to both improve my game knowledge and mechanics. Such as learning what the junger may want to do at certain parts of the game. I am not good at it yet as I run around taking whatever is available since I haven't gotten routes memorized yet, because I forget what paths I should be taking or what I can do to track the enemy jg, when I should gank, not feeling comfortable if I should invade or not, whether or not I can/ should contest the scuttle crab or buffs, and I am sure there is a lot more I am not aware of. I feel like {{champion:19}} is easier than {{champion:102}} since he has a large gapcloser, aoe cc and damage reduction, a large and consistent ms boost to help gank, and natural lifesteal.
: I mean only play annie, learn when to play in which pocket of the lane, specifically what is overextending, what isn't, when to trade, what trades are positive neutral, what trades are positive postive, what trades are wrong (and to avoid them) how to use your f keys to watch other lanes, how to play against poke, how to play vs all in, how to work with your jungler, how to not be ganked, when to ward, how to count enemy jungler cs to figure out what camps they did (and where they are), your power spikes, back timing etc
Play in the pocket where the river is warded or where the jungler isn't, trade when the enemy uses a damaging ability to farm or when you can predict what minion they are about to kill and you are confident you can attack without them retaliating, but some champions have lower cds. I know what overextending is and when I should push the lane to my tower (When I see the junger where the junlger is on the map and they are in a place where they cant get to me right away, if bot or top lane is roaming then I can't and must not push otherwise its going to be a 3 v 1 or more gank.) I am guessing positive positive means a trade where they don't/ cant retaliate Positive neutral must mean that the trade was equal, but one laner has an hp advantage I assume. Wrong trades I guess would be fighting a Katarina as Sol. Counting the junglers cs I need to know about more I know that I have an advantage if I can reach level 2 as Sol before my opponent. I can potentially all in them while they still have one skill at their disposal. When would be a good time to ward? I know to back when: -I have pushed the lane -Have enough gold to buy an item -When the opponent has gotten me low and has high kill pressure or I feel the jungler might be coming in that case its better to walk away from the tower or risk being dived. I mainly want to know what I am not familiar with how to do, like play against all-ins or timing when to ward.
: For starters, stop playing Sol. Play Annie top and mid for 200 games, look up and learn how to lane, how to trade, how to control your camera, how to click and what to itemize and when, then start building a champion pool from the ground up after your "Diet" so to speak
I didn't say I only play Aurelion Sol, I know how to lane a bit, what overextending is, warding I am looking up and trying to do more and more, roaming is something I am learning when I should/ should not be, but knowing how to freeze a lane isn't something very obvious to me so that's why I want to know how to do that. {{champion:50}} and {{champion:45}} are also champions that I use when I don't think I can play Sol or when I want something different when I am in mid. Otherwise what I play in other roles are Top: {{champion:10}} {{champion:68}} ( I need to play more toplaners) jg: {{champion:19}} {{champion:102}} (Don't play it often even in normals as I need more practice and knowledge) bot/ support: {{champion:16}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:29}} {{champion:26}} Champions that I don't feel confident enough to play even in normal games as of now: {{champion:102}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:4}}
: Uh, what can I do to imporve at this game so that bad matchups dont stress me out?
I also said stress since I can get stressed and that definitely affects how good I am playing. To the point I forget about items or other details.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acemaster81,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fkIqyPjk,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-02-23T16:28:39.670+0000) > > Responding with "play smarter" is about as helpful as saying "git gud" in my book, which spoiler alert doesn't do anything to help unskilled players other than stating the obvious. As if I didn't already know I wasn't playing well. If you had said how I could have played differently that would've been appreciated. Hm, true. That's why I thought to mention "First pick" as well. When you first pick an easily-counterable mid-laner, you're easily gonna be countered lol that's not a matchup problem that's a *you* problem. Ya shoulda traded with someone.
Guess my favorite mid laner is something I can only play if I am not first pick? Any fun mid laners I could have chosen against an assassin?
: Play smarter. You're the one that first-picked a mid laner. TF did you expect to happen?
Responding with "play smarter" is about as helpful as saying "git gud" in my book, which spoiler alert doesn't do anything to help unskilled players other than stating the obvious. As if I didn't already know I wasn't playing well. If you had said how I could have played differently that would've been appreciated.
Balen (NA)
: Also if you are in ANY matchup where you know the enemy will poke you hard, just going resolve secondary just for second wind is a very good option. Remember don't rely on just one set build, adapt to the enemy and you will have better chances of success.
How do I freeze a lane? Also, If I wanted to roam against an assassin who pushes the lane, like the mr7 Katarina did against me whenever I wasn't in mid, how would I deal with that?
: basically? 1 trick... Play as much of one champion as you can stand until you have faced every match up at minimum 5 times (at minimum) understand thats A LOT OF FUCKING GAMES... you will become more adapt to deal with said match ups, nothing about getting good, if the enemy player is competent in their champion (whether intentional pick or counter pick) Its going to be hard - just as playing tryndamere into teemo is not fun, but it is doable if you bait out the blind... So my response holds water - You can't until you adapt, and you cannot adapt until you have played the counter match up X times - so play more games
1 tricking is an issue at every elo? I understand why someone would 1 trick, but since I can't get mid every game I must play other champions like Kayle, Soraka, Ashe, Twitch, and Nami. However, jungle is my worst role, I forget what I am doing, don't gank effectively even after watching guides online. I usually never play that role unless I am forced to, otherwise I am being flamed in chat for not ganking or dying to the enemy jungler when I run into them.
: " So my question is how to deal with players who counterpick and are decent at their champion? " You don't... hens the ending statement, you cant... The last bit is to draw attention to a serious issue in every elo, not just diamond+
Could you explain what that issue would be? I'm curious because this isn't a "git gud" or "don't play Aurelion" response.
: What I did top lane against people who were hard matchups (mostly ranged top laners) I would play them in norms a bit to see their weaknesses or why they could overpower my champs in lane. Then that way you know when they are strongest or when you can move forward. That helped me a lot and so now I don’t fear counter picks. Edit: if you know it’s a counter pick like a high mobility assassin, just go for last hits and AA harass. Let them push the lane in so you can farm safely. Just focus on getting farm and getting strong. You’ll learn the other stuff later. Also look up match ups (Sol vs x champ) and watch how they lane against them.
How do I do that with these 3 {{champion:91}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:105}} when I am playing {{champion:136}} vs {{champion:55}} and the laning phase has just started? Especially {{champion:55}} When the moment the stun ends she can easily attack me since she has shunpo resets/ or a low cooldown and deals extra damage with Electrocute to boot?
: as per what riot support told me... you cant... Any ranked reset that happens I wish to be added to the list of players who request one on themselves - please refer to this tweet https://twitter.com/RiotSapMagic/status/1098820557385084928
I meant resets as in the resets Katarina gets on Shunpo, not ranked resets
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: presses {{item:3140}}
> [{quoted}](name=Swiff Swish,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nG3wAsEE,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-02-18T00:03:20.978+0000) > > presses {{item:3140}} Can't have a game without counter play now would we? That's why I check what items the enemy team are building throughout the match
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: Then you cant use it. You bought a paintjob for a car. You need the car to use it.
Awesome, I thought I could use it so I got Corki
: Was it for a skin? If yes, do you own the skin?
I don't own the skin, just the Chroma for Dragonwing Corki.
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Ifneth (NA)
: Here are the problems with each one. 1) Hexdrinker offers none of the attack speed or critical strike chance Yasuo needs to scale, delaying his power spike to his second recall, letting Veigar farm stacks. 2) Cleanse denies Yasuo Ignite, which he wants to get kills for snowballing and extend his kill pressure in fuels. It also works only every three to four minutes. 3) QSS delays Yasuo’s powerspike so much that he cannot afford to buy it until his second recall at the earliest, and even then he would be delaying his Infinity Edge for a long time. 4) Veigar laughs at Nullifying Orb. His AP and scalings and missing-health amp are just too high. Yasuo cannot afford to both let Veigar farm and delay his own powerspikes, or else Veigar will scale until he can just fire 1,000 AP Q’s at anyone who comes too close.
Pretty much, the lane can swing in one way or the other. I do think that if the team's jungler was involved and came to mid as Veigar relies so much on flash and e. (I have used W to try and zone too but it won't always scare people off, unless it's late game and I have a lot of AP.)
raphtor64 (EUNE)
: i know how to counter you without much yasuo skill.. {{summoner:1}} {{item:3155}} spellshield rune and{{item:3140}} + upgrade and i have chance to kill you... a large chance
That would actually do it, a counter to my counter
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: Wait, doesn't it block AoE if the 'projectile' portion hits the wall? I remember fighting him years back versus Ziggs and having my ult blocked by the thing. Maybe I was rushing CDR for some reason and he had his shield up?
I'm pretty sure that is the case if it starts as a projectile.
Anl0rian (NA)
: Problem with approaching him to AA his shield opens you to getting dashed on. And someone as squishy as Veigar wont last long. A good yas will already have his tornado ready, dash to you, then ult. Even if you drop your cage, unless you predict the delay on him you're screwed. I've had Yasuos completely play passive under tower just so I cant break his shield, which opens me up to being ganked, and also easy to gap close for him. Playing passive is the safest thing you can do. Freeze the lane on your side! Then he will lose! .... Then he steamrolls your bot lane and your laning phase has been for naught. RIP
If the Yas is passive like that then I stay away or roam if I can. He's not going to kill you at levels 1-5 as long as you stay back, which I like to do with Veigar. If he lets his wave go to his tower I don't approach him to AA, if I can afford it I leave the lane to help elsewhere, ward if I have no vision or roam to help the jungler gank another lane. Pushing the wave to his tower and staying is asking for a gank.
: well now I just feel like a bully. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
Don't feel bad about it, this is the internet. Anyone who can't handle a little bullying is either immature or shouldn't be online in the first place.
: My idea is that those guys are the ones that come to the boards whining that Yasuo is OP and failed hard when they attempted at "easy stomping" with him.
I mean, when I rolled Yasuo in urf I was trash at playing him, but I understand his kit just can't play it.
: *golfclap* Congrats: you've finally figured out exactly what I've been doing as Lissandra since Yasuo's release date. >.> Has your tiny brain finally thawed? {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:127}}
Uh I mean I haven't been playing for very long, it's been like a couple months since I picked up this game after I got my laptop replaced. I usually was frustrated in a matchup with Yasou until I started thinking of how I could lane against him.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acemaster81,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=nG3wAsEE,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-02-15T14:55:31.387+0000) >I've fought Yasuo's who wind wall to block an auto attack I've fought Yasuos who constantly tried to wall Xerath's Qs and Ws. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Same with my w, some players must think that aoe spells and tower shots are blockable because I see it a lot (probably cuz I haven't touched ranked)
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glava222 (EUNE)
: ok send a friend invite, the name is the same on disc, i just hope our time zones arent totally incompatible XD
I kinda need your discord id for that XD. Mine is Rubymint#5962
glava222 (EUNE)
: If you want to talk about these things more you can add me on discord, also dont be afraid to try out ranked, it will just put you with people of your skill so you dont have to worry about being outclassed
glava222 (EUNE)
: i hope i can provide some help in assasin matchups. Ill split this post into several parts Part 1: itemizing against assasins in lane. if you dont feel playing against assasins as a mage you should start with dorans ring and 2 pots. that will get you some health to survive an all in, some ap and some mana regen. At your first back you should pick up another ring and a resist item (cloth armor or null magic depending on the opponent). You want that flat resist armor because your opponent will probably build some flat pen, and a resist item greatly mitigates that(remember that at low resist counts both pen and getting more resist are more useful). then it varies according to the type of the opponent you are facing. Against Ad assasins you want to finish your armguard, but dont go for the zhonyas, since armguard already gives you survivability. If you feel you need more survivability go for RoA(both swain and ASol use this great), if you dont get your first mana/cdr item, then continue building normally until you feel you need to finish the zhonya. Against APs you can either start building RoA if you are scared, or finish merc treads and your mana/cdr item if you arent. You need to know that with this build you will come online later than usual, but the point is to outscale the assasin anyways. TLDR: 2 dorans and resist items are a good buildup vs assasins Part 2: laning against assasins. There are several things to remember when laning vs assasins so here i will give some tips in no particular order to remember. First off, dont stand near your minions when you cs/harrass, because assasins have want to hit both you and minions with abilities so they can kill you without being showed in. Always stand a bit to the side of your minions, since for example then zed will have to use his shadow and shuriken to clear the wave OR hurt you, but he cant do both, similair with kata daggers and talon w. the second thing is to know the assasins kill pattern. for example you know zed ult will make him appear behind you, same with shunpo, fizz e will jump right on top of you, and talon will q right in your face. Use that knowledge to quickly disable them with a veigar baby cage, swain claw, ASol ulty or raka equinox. The second thing to know is to realize that assasins actually have two engage ranges: the full damage one and a reduced damage one. the reduced damage range is a range where an assasin can all in you, but he uses his damage tools to close the range. For example if a zed has to use his shadow to get in range to ult you, or if fizz has to use his e into q to start a fight, or if talon cant q from close range. At that range they certainly cant kill you from full health, but watch out if you are lower and use your range advantage accordingly. The third and related thing is to count assasin cooldowns. You should count their cooldowns to see when you can safely farm and harrass. The fourth and hardest thing to learn is when to stand your ground. There are cases when you can actually turn an all in around. If you are full health and they arent and they try to all in you, if you think you can kill them dont start running, because you will lose the trade if you just run and let them hit you. Several of the champs you play are also actually quite good at standing their ground in some cases, for example if you are soraka and they are all inning you on your equinox, they cant actually do much. also to note Swain,ASol and veigar can take aftershock and greatly reduce burst from assasins, just think about it
Thanks, I actually didn't know Zed appears behind you, or I wasn't paying enough attention to know if he did since he's usually back out from underneath the tower by the time his mark activates. As for my runes I could change them around for that type of matchup, since arcane comet seems to not do too much aside from being a low damage attack that is normally easy to avoid. I have not played Soraka mid before but thanks for the tips for how to deal with them if I do decide to play her in that lane.
Napoleon3 (EUNE)
: because the game is toxic and i cant focus to the game dying from 1000 range 0 mana problems mages and assasins diving in my tower.
> [{quoted}](name=Napoleon3,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aVkE9T5O,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-02-03T18:21:53.753+0000) > > because the game is toxic and i cant focus to the game dying from 1000 range 0 mana problems mages and assasins diving in my tower. There is a way to avoid death to champions like Zed and Fizz, I just am not good at fighting them.
Syrile (NA)
: Assassins are really overpowered right now. However, one major problem with that list of champions is that most of them should not be in mid lane. Generally, you can only play the more strange champions mid lane once you understand a lot of the matchups and are really good with them. Nami should almost never be there. Soraka and Volibear are not particularly good either and Twitch is way too vulnerable in mid. Aurelion Sol is very hard to play in general for most people and Swain is rather weak right now (but I love him) and Veigar is pretty hard to deal with assassins. However, if you want to play Sol, Veigar and Swain, there are some good things you can do. Ward-wise, find a system to help you. Maybe a timer that pings for the CD on your wards. Keep checking your map and learn some good ward placement (maybe watch some videos?). You can invest in Stopwatch with the inspiration tree that will help with all ins. You can pick up the defensive boots rather than offensive ones, based on which type of assassin you are facing. Get corrupting potion early and get used to playing super safe until you get used to it. Learn some champions that counter assassins well. Malzahar is a personal favorite. You can play around getting all-in'd by using his passive and silence to negate a lot of their damage. You can poke safely with E and punish them when they CS and use bugs for free damage. Some common tactics that can be used with all of the characters you want to play is to punish them when they try to CS. Other than Teemo and Azir, they are all Melee characters. So if they are using auto attacks to CS, use your ranged abilities to damage them and back off when they try to engage unless you have a clear advantage. When going for trades try to let them use their skills first. Once Zed uses his shuriken and especially his shadow he is much more vulnerable and you can get in free damage. When Talon's Q is down, he cannot dash to you unless you are by a wall and if he used his W you can use a ranged advantage against him if you stay away from his Q range. Those are rather simple to say but I would suggest using each of the champions you have trouble with and getting an idea for how they play so you know the ranges and cooldowns and how they have to CS. These are just a few basic tips. It is beyond a single post to really give anything in depth.
> [{quoted}](name=Syrile,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=aVkE9T5O,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-02-03T17:25:48.799+0000) > > Assassins are really overpowered right now. > However, one major problem with that list of champions is that most of them should not be in mid lane. > Generally, you can only play the more strange champions mid lane once you understand a lot of the matchups and are really good with them. > Nami should almost never be there. Soraka and Volibear are not particularly good either and Twitch is way too vulnerable in mid. > Aurelion Sol is very hard to play in general for most people and Swain is rather weak right now (but I love him) and Veigar is pretty hard to deal with assassins. > > However, if you want to play Sol, Veigar and Swain, there are some good things you can do. Ward-wise, find a system to help you. Maybe a timer that pings for the CD on your wards. Keep checking your map and learn some good ward placement (maybe watch some videos?). > > You can invest in Stopwatch with the inspiration tree that will help with all ins. > You can pick up the defensive boots rather than offensive ones, based on which type of assassin you are facing. > Get corrupting potion early and get used to playing super safe until you get used to it. > Learn some champions that counter assassins well. Malzahar is a personal favorite. You can play around getting all-in'd by using his passive and silence to negate a lot of their damage. You can poke safely with E and punish them when they CS and use bugs for free damage. > > Some common tactics that can be used with all of the characters you want to play is to punish them when they try to CS. > Other than Teemo and Azir, they are all Melee characters. So if they are using auto attacks to CS, use your ranged abilities to damage them and back off when they try to engage unless you have a clear advantage. > > When going for trades try to let them use their skills first. Once Zed uses his shuriken and especially his shadow he is much more vulnerable and you can get in free damage. When Talon's Q is down, he cannot dash to you unless you are by a wall and if he used his W you can use a ranged advantage against him if you stay away from his Q range. Those are rather simple to say but I would suggest using each of the champions you have trouble with and getting an idea for how they play so you know the ranges and cooldowns and how they have to CS. > > These are just a few basic tips. It is beyond a single post to really give anything in depth. Could you explain more if you had the time?
: Why cant I improve my skills
I generally play mid, support, adc and sometimes top, not just mid lane so sorry for the confusion. I don't play Twitch, Nami, or Volibear mid
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