: Why Has Riot Done Nothing To Draven Yet?
Can't tell if troll or just bad at the game.
: > [{quoted}](name=AvantelWings,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uvGipO09,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-08-24T10:43:22.197+0000) > > WTF even is this post well, i got to say. he has a couple of valid points. riot did blame a couple of champions for being underplayed because of their aesthetics (yorick, urgot, old trundle). but the same champions where competitive top picks at one point and played to a large amount when they were strong, just like any other strong champion. the acutal reason people stopped playing them were heavy nerfs as a result of their success in pro play. as an example, there are a lot of aesthetically well received champions in this game who have very poor play rates, simply because theyre too weak right now.
Generally they are not played because of their aesthetics, however, if they are good enough the people who want to win will play them.
rescued (NA)
: And it is still a team game even if you are solo. So why are solo players being punished?
Solo players are not being punished?! They just don't get a bonus. That is not punishment at all. Stop trying to make yourself a victim.
Ônyx (NA)
: Since groups of players get rewards for playing, can solo players get rewards for "top scoring"?
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vqEBiKqB,comment-id=0023,timestamp=2016-06-04T06:15:09.555+0000) > > Just a loud minority. Yes , because every single available metric indicating what OP is saying to be true is "a loud minority". Do you even representative samples of a player base? Do you even statistics? Do you even logic?
Wow you are truly ignorant. Thats ok, you may learn in time.
: This season has just been absolute clownshoes.
This isn't universal. Just a loud minority. Pros just want better ping and a better player base - that is just the players being bad.
Kudrov (NA)
: In the Video, Lobbster, the main dev for DynamicQ said : "we never had that much peoples playing ranked right now" to trying to tell us there never been that much players playing since DynamicQ come out like it was a great thing. well no shit sherlock whats left? SoloQ GONE, Ranked's 5 GONE, TwistedTreeline ranked GONE, TeamBuilder GONE, Dominon GONE. is it me or the next STEP is League of Legend GONE.
Umm SoloQ is the same thing as ranked, people that played TeamBuilder can just go to norms as normal draft is quite similar to TeamBuilder, they removed Dominion because it was filled with bots and almost nobody played it, and RankedTeams was not super popular either. You seem to be one of the many salty little kids that is unable to draw meaningful conclusions.
: After all the feedback that you ignored, Riot, I just have one final thing to say.
Eyesack (NA)
: Riot finally did it. They finally said FUCK YOU to all their players.
I'm a solo player and am 100% fine with Dynamic Q. Many other players share my thoughts on the matter, thus your making assumptions about ALL the players pisses me off.
: "We simply don't have enough resources to upkeep Dominion."-Riot
Yeah be vulgar, nice job! It is nice to know people know how to effectively get their opinions across. Maybe you should pay more attention in English class. Stay in school bud.
: Gangplank changes were decent. He received a lot of nerfs mainly because of his global ultimate and how well it was working in professional play. To be honest his ultimate was a lot better post-rework, but his barrels don't really bring much to the table besides enhancing his Q's range and AoE. That's just my opinion.
His barrels bring him individuality. That was the goal of the change.
Miror B (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=stealthfox94,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pfJIeLqO,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-26T18:23:48.114+0000) > > Which isn't a healthy design. Disagree on that one, as if anything this entire game is "based" on feast or famine. Get any character far enough ahead of their laning opponent, and they'll almost always do extremely well. Old fiora was much the same, only that her counterplay if she got 3-4 kills ahead made her almost impossible to outdamage.
Look at proplay. Solo kills almost never happen. It is you being bad at the game that leads to you losing lane.
Pÿrö (NA)
: This is a message to Riot.
They want to keep the game evolving. There were plenty of things that were fine that then got changed for the better. You may not always like it but League is an evolving game not something that remains the same. Riot has said this many times.
: Riot has sent a powerful message to it's community: Solo players aren't welcome in LoL
: ? so you consider her as attractive? xDDD she is the ugliest person around and trashtalks more than anyone else why would i enjoy watching her stream?
So everyone is ugly and you are sooo perfect. Maybe this is the reason you have no life outside of this insignificant video game.
: i am really wondering who enjoys watching ugly people talking about some annoying bs
Me. However if you have that mindset there is a wonderful streamer for you on this AMAZING website: Kaceytron!!!!
: Is high elo spectating ever coming back?
: Being a solo player with a 4-man premade is the most garbage experience.
This sometimes happens, but also sometimes they are very nice and carry me. You probably just had a bad game.
: Champions like Ekko should be Aatrox'd.
Small pet peeve of mine. When looking at a measuring tool where up is better you want your minimum to be as high as possible. Thus a high skill floor would be good and a low skill floor would be bad. For example, a bad Riven could be a 1, that is low, but an bad Annie would be a 20.
Lusoka (NA)
: How the hell is this even possible? Swain's q doesn't work with any spell items.
Nice job being a reasonable person and not cursing for no reason. Furthermore I like appreciate how you make sure to take into account how much work Riot does everyday in order to make this great game which they allow us to play for free! Keep it up man! You are the reason I love this community!!!!
: I'm going to get downvoted to hell for this
Well normally every game is winnable. Unless you suck. And given you're in bronze, I would agree with you. Every game for you is not winnable.
: Why I'm Quitting League of Legends, A Rant About Change
: "most in lower leagues can't deal with him properly." Ekko in MSI (a professional tournament where every competer is challenger+) 80% win rate, 83% pick ban rate. Looks like the best players among us can't deal with him properly either.
And Lucian has a super low win rate with high priority. There is such a low sample size that winrate at MSI doesn't reflect skill at all.
: > [{quoted}](name=TonyTonyMordecai,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QlkVLEkE,comment-id=000000000000000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-11T15:03:00.472+0000) > > Had a Yasuo with exhaust and the wrong masteries against tank Ekko top yesterday. Completely destroyed him. Yasuo can have wrong masteries?
Wow someone is bad at this game. Stay in bronze my friend.
: > The only way to destroy a tankko is to utterly crush him before late game. This sounds like a tip for every champions ever. > However, he has already been nerfed a lot. His AP ratio got buffed after the base damage nerf. How about people start building AP on him instead of Sunfire if they really wanted that damage? > Ekko feeds easily cause most in lower leagues can't deal with him properly. Ekko has 52% winrate & 19% playrate even in **Diamond**, so your statement doesn't support at all.
> This sounds like a tip for every champions ever. No, many champions you can just stall out like a Nidalee, Lee Sin, LeBlanc, Syndra, etc. (strong laners). So this point makes no sense at all. > His AP ratio got buffed after the base damage nerf. How about people start building AP on him instead of Sunfire if they really wanted that damage? Here you didn't make a point at all. > Ekko has 52% winrate & 19% playrate even in Diamond, so your statement doesn't support at all. 52% Winrate is not that high. There are 30-40 champions with above a 52% winrate.
: You probably just lost a game to one and came here to complain. First of all, it's called bein creative. Idk who made the build, but they use more brains than the ones who rage here. Also, it's only popular since the pros used it. However, it is literally just a tank with super high survivability. While I admit it is hard to fight, ekko's early game sucks, so if you are skilled enough, you can shut him down. Heck, even a Teemo could do it. If ya don't feed him, tankko will literally become useless. IMO, ap ekko is amazing early, for me atleast, and midgame, so I totally prefer him.
Why the downvotes? BC someone has a differing opinion?
uJhisper (NA)
: Is Shaco the perfect idea of what an assassin should be?
: Oh I see, rework on AP means makes weaker while rework on ad means makes stronger
Please say you are joking, more ap champs saw increased win rate due to the changes.
: "solo queue"
Cool shit on Riot. Nice! You must be soooo smart. Just quit if you are going to hate the people that allow you to play their fantastic game for free.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEoRyl3v,comment-id=0001000100010002000100000000,timestamp=2016-05-05T01:31:00.507+0000) > > Here we have another issue with your argument. In each and every game I play in ranked (unless super depressed or tired) I post a link for a curse voice chat. So, this communication could be available for everyone, at least in my games. However, many games people don't take me up on this offer at all. > League of Legends was founded on the principle of accessibility, regardless of their computer specs. It was meant to be a completely free game that anyone could simply download and hop into and have a good time, regardless of how hardcore they were in both mentality and hardware. "Forcing" players to run 3rd party voice communication programs in the background utterly defeats this philosophy, as it caters to players with machines that can run multiple programs and keep their latency to a minimum. My new computer is pretty awesome, so I could run Curse Voice without issue, but before I got this, I was playing on a derpy 2010 Dell laptop and Curse Voice lagged the game pretty hard. So I stand purely on principle here. > I think this is more of an issue on Riot's part. Voice communication is essential for making the most competitive games at each tier level. Their saying that it would increase toxicity makes 0 sense to me as I feel as if I am noticeably less toxic in voice than over text. > OF COURSE THIS IS AN ISSUE ON RIOT'S PART. They systematically refuse to add a voice chat system built into the game. And the reason: because it's more difficult to monitor toxicity. Ok Riot, so what you're really saying is that the game is less important than the ability to police it. Really? That's so fucking backwards it's hard to fathom. And I'm inclined to agree with you that voice chat would likely be less toxic. You can't hide behind a keyboard when you're actually talking to someone so there's a much more personal aspect to it. And, chances are, the people that were actually bannably toxic in voice chat would be typing their poison into chat, as well. And even if voice chat did lead to a general increase in toxicity, it's not like Riot is some poor company that can't find new ways to police the system. Riot is absurdly rich and they devote 100% of their attention to this game and this game alone. They really don't have anything else going on so it's not like they would have to scrape and scrounge to find the resources to deal with this. > > Also, the difference between PlatV and Gold2 really isn't real. It is just the difference of winning a few games. The skill differential really isn't apparent here. Although, I do realize that I have several shortcomings that stop me from being able to climb as effectively up to their rank. You are right, to some extent. The differences between high gold and low plat are minor, but as a player that spent a good 3 months sitting in gold 1 and 2 last year and failing multiple promo series for plat, I can say from experience that they are important differences.
I don't really feel the need to argue anymore as we are both unwavering, but you saying that failing promos means there is a difference is kinda ludicrous. Getting to your promos, as you must be on a win streak, normally means you are regularly playing against the next tier anyway leading up to the promos. It is just unlucky failing more than 1 or 2 times.
: My god Yi and Jax players are going into withdraw.
Withdrawal**** Don't use words if you don't know what they mean.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEoRyl3v,comment-id=00010001000100020001,timestamp=2016-05-03T14:05:15.895+0000) > > The increased win rate comes from communication EXACTLY. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LITERALLY MAKING THE EXACT POINT THAT ALL SOLO PLAYERS HAVE BEEN TRYING TO MAKE ABUNDANTLY CLEAR FOR THE PAST 4-5 MONTHS. This communication is NOT available to solo players. It just isn't. As good as smart pings and typed chat are, they do not come close to being as valuable as actual voice chat systems in terms of volume of information being relayed and the amount of coordination possible. Ergo, I can conclude that DQ is systematically abusive toward solo players who simply have no way to exploit these obvious advantages. Also, please be real here. If you are in gold and they are in plat, they are better than you. And I say this in no way as an insult, it's just how it is. I have been in bronze, silver, gold, and plat throughout my time in this game, and the skill difference at each level is noticeable. Which, of course, is the point of such a tiered ranked system in the first place.
Here we have another issue with your argument. In each and every game I play in ranked (unless super depressed or tired) I post a link for a curse voice chat. So, this communication could be available for everyone, at least in my games. However, many games people don't take me up on this offer at all. I think this is more of an issue on Riot's part. Voice communication is essential for making the most competitive games at each tier level. Their saying that it would increase toxicity makes 0 sense to me as I feel as if I am noticeably less toxic in voice than over text. Also, the difference between PlatV and Gold2 really isn't real. It is just the difference of winning a few games. The skill differential really isn't apparent here. Although, I do realize that I have several shortcomings that stop me from being able to climb as effectively up to their rank.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEoRyl3v,comment-id=00010001000100020000,timestamp=2016-05-03T14:03:45.903+0000) > > Except for the fact that I win more solo. I play with plat players because they are my friends and it is fun. When I seriously want to climb I go solo. Soooo what you're saying is that you treat your DQ ranked games with a premade like normal games. Tell me, why do you queue for ranked with a premade if you all you really care about is having fun? Why is normals with a premade not just as fun? Is it because stomping on frustrated soloQ players is fun for you? Because that's honestly the only conclusion I can draw from this statement. Please enlighten me if this is somehow incorrect. Also, you claim to win more games queueing solo. Let me explain exactly why this is. Your plat friends (who are higher mmr than you) attract higher mmr players to the enemy team. I'm honestly not sure if the game tries to match the average mmr of your premade with players or if higher weight is given to the higher mmr, but suffice it to say, if a player with 1500 mmr is in a premade with a player of 1000 mmr, the other players in that game definitely be higher than 1000 mmr (note: these numbers are arbitrary and do not reflect your personal mmr nor the mmr of the friends that queue with). If you are losing more games with your premade than you do solo, this means that your premade mmr is at a level where your plat friends are no longer able to carry you, and you are not skilled enough to carry yourself. However, when you queue solo, only your own mmr is factored into the matchmaking, meaning you will be matched against only those players of roughly equal mmr, meaning that you will have better chances of making an impact on the game.
1. Although it is mainly for the fun, I cannot play normals. Those games mean absolutly nothing and thus I have close to 0 fun playing them. I need for there to be something on the line as well as competent enemies in order to have a good time. 2. Well this is true for most people, it is not the case with me. My Plat 5 friend that I play with a lot switches between that account and his Silver 3 smurf. Even in this scenario where it seems I would win the majority I still have a higher win percentage solo. So you made good points in general and they do make sense, however, my situation is quite abnormal.
Drehirth (NA)
: i agree but honestly would take either at this point
But then again, dq is completely fine. works good, no major issues.
: It really tilts me whenever people use the plural when talking about Kindred idk why
why because you don't like how it supposed to be. you need to have things YOUR WAY?
: Can someone explain to me why Kindred is so contested?
Extasios (NA)
: The 'KKK' clan tag IS offensive.
The KKK clan tag is only offensive if you tie it to the Klan. It could mean any number of things. For example, the color red is not offensive, but is you tie it to the purges in Stalin era USSR then it potentially could be. Stop being so easily offended.
Nalren (EUW)
: Rounded up to the closest multiple of 10 :P
Well if you round to the nears color blue then it would be blue%...
Fazuzu (NA)
: gave you an upvote, I don't know why people downvoted you. you gave an honest statement of your personal perspective based ony our experiences with it. winning does make it more fun, lol. that is why solo players enjoy the mode least ha ha. but you are right, increased communication leads to more wins, and smoother experiences whether or not you win making it more satisfying. the game really needs voicechat, with obvious options to mute the vulgar 10 year olds that should be on xbox instead of league.
People just hate people that have different opinions.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEoRyl3v,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2016-05-02T05:52:37.406+0000) > > I'm mid/high gold and mainly play with Plats. I love DQ. I think it is a lot of fun to play with friends. Increased communication --> Increased win rate --> Increased fun! Right here. Here is literally the most perfect example of the problem of DQ. A Gold player playing with a mainly Plat premade and enjoying the benefits of increased win rate. Just fyi, while you and your premade are laughing it up and having all this fun, you are actively ruining someone else's day by abusing a broken system. You are taking the fun out of the game for others. Congrats on adding your poison to the already toxic world that is League.
The increased win rate comes from communication, not them being better than me. They aren't.
: > [{quoted}](name=Acidic Puddle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IEoRyl3v,comment-id=000100010001,timestamp=2016-05-02T05:52:37.406+0000) > > I'm mid/high gold and mainly play with Plats. I love DQ. I think it is a lot of fun to play with friends. Increased communication --> Increased win rate --> Increased fun! Right here. Here is literally the most perfect example of the problem of DQ. A Gold player playing with a mainly Plat premade and enjoying the benefits of increased win rate. Just fyi, while you and your premade are laughing it up and having all this fun, you are actively ruining someone else's day by abusing a broken system. You are taking the fun out of the game for others. Congrats on adding your poison to the already toxic world that is League.
Except for the fact that I win more solo. I play with plat players because they are my friends and it is fun. When I seriously want to climb I go solo.
ZeeWolfZ (NA)
: 72%, 19% are gold.
There we go. Someone got the facts.
: Everbody is a minority on the boards. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
Yeah, most people don't visit the boards and are completely fine with Dynamic Q. Also there was a poll that stretched across the boards as well as reddit that showed that less people, of those who partook in the poll, were fine/liked DQ. And this is even more interesting because in sampling a voluntary sample normally favors the more extreme group, so the people that hate DQ are a minority inside of a minority.
Nalren (EUW)
: Well, no crap. 80% of the community are bronze or silver to begin with.
: >I love DQ. Of course you do. Because... >I'm mid/high gold and mainly play with Plats. ...you get to team up with people whos ELO is higher than yours, and thus get an advantage over your opponents. Only problem with that: Whatever advantage in ranking anyone may get from this, is meaningless...because the system no longer measures the skill of players, it measures the quality of a premade. Which would still be fine, if the premades were static 5man teams. But they are not, hence the name "dynamic". So have fun with the ranks...they are completely meaningless.
Except there is no advantage over the opponents other than the fact that we can communicate over skype. And better communication is better for the game.
: Logged in just to call you a BOOSTED ANIMAL. Thank you.
except that I do better than them. nice try tho.
ZeeWolfZ (NA)
: People who enjoy DQ are mostly bronze/silver players.
I'm mid/high gold and mainly play with Plats. I love DQ. I think it is a lot of fun to play with friends. Increased communication --> Increased win rate --> Increased fun!
: Daily reminder that we want Solo Queue
You say "us" like you're talking about the whole community. So I will fix your statement: Dear Rito. A minority of us want soloq. GIVE IT TO US NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
: PSA to everyone from a support main.
: _Well if you want to hate on Riot you might as well not play the game._ I don't hate the entirety of Riot, I hate that the balance team is doing a bad job. _They are doing what they think is best for the game environment and it sure as hell is better than any game you could ever make. _ I am not a chef, but I know when someone pooped in my food. I do think I could do a decent job if I had billions of dollars and all the resources riot does though. _ So if you are just going to be one of those people that hate on Riot constantly maybe you shouldn't be playing the game_ You can hate parts of something without hating the entire thing. _that they let you play for free._ I owe them nothing.
This is all based on the assumption that you understand game design and balance at all.... maybe you don't........
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