: Unfairly Suspended for 14 Days
You sounded like a complete D-bag in game 1. Game 2 sounda like a having a laugh but you must've done something for someone to report you. Never say disco while playing nunu I guess
: Patch 8.12 notes
Nerfing Ezreal is fine and all but he's still the best AD to take when everyone is spamming melee carries bottom sooooo still nothing.
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: SUGGESTION: How to Improve the LCS for the Longterm
Echo Fox and 100 Thieves do the Academy scrims already, which is good when you see how their seasons went. As for the learning, Hai retired to start something like that, he said he wanted to teach people the game. Id honestly like it if there was a former LCS player such as Hai, or Dyrus, or TheOddOne to do an in depth talk about certain roles that will be focused on during the game. Say Team Liquid and Echo Fox were playing, the Jungle matchup will be hype since Dardoch and Xmithie are 2 of the best junglers in NA. We can have, during the Countdown show, someone like SaintVicious with TheOddOne to give multiple perspectives on what Dardoch and Xmithie might do to win the jungle. That will also give new players or just fans little nuggets of knowledge from former pros as well to better their own game.
: Parties level up!
This is getting more and more like HotS, the loot, the quests, the open voice chat, the chests etc.
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Acroner (EUW)
: Teams from NA & EU in quarter finals last 3 years
I think its funny when the EU vs NA thing starts happening, TSM could be getting smashed like they did tonight and still have "NA>EU" and vice versa. Its even worse when TSM signing half of EU is a meme in NA. I seriously think TSM in general feeds this fire because of shit talking that cant be backed coming from Doublelift and Hauntzer.
: Does TSM still have a path to getting to the next round?
No they blew it when they lost to Flash Wolves and Blew it even more when Misfits beat them.
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: clg team at a lower caliber then ever!?
I feel like Xmithie and Aphro were a really needed combo for shotcalling in CLG. Since he left, CLG hasnt been looking good, and Dardoch was the kind of guy to just respond when his team needed him and get kills for the team. Omargod looks promising as hell but its too soon for him to be shoved into playoffs against guys like Xmithie, or Svenskeren. Darshan looks like he's starting to get burnt out, he has flashes here and there of how he used to be but i feel like he needs a break like DL took. This entire year just felt really off for CLG, i have no idea what happened.
: Smoothie over Olleh? Olleh+Xmithie is a terror combo, and if they decided, they could easily make Bjergsen a raid boss every game, while Piglet/Double would just be an intimidating monster in bot lane
> [{quoted}](name=KT Ciller,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=TexOxHOj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-08-21T16:56:16.793+0000) > > Smoothie over Olleh? Olleh+Xmithie is a terror combo, and if they decided, they could easily make Bjergsen a raid boss every game, while Piglet/Double would just be an intimidating monster in bot lane If i put in Olleh, i wouldnt be able to use Piglet or Reignover with Ssumday being my top laner.
Miror B (NA)
: As someone who watches NA more for heavy misplays and funny moments, my team would kinda look like this: Top- RF legendary/Flaresz Jungle- Crumbz (part of the rift herald "highlight moment") Mid- Goldenglue/Slooshi (TL may have been onto something) Bot- Ohq Support- Kiwikid/Matt Not only would they be hilarious to watch, but I'm pretty sure that combined they currently hold the record for worst career KDA's at their respective positions, barring Ohq who I'd just want as he played hyper agro and was massively hyped up.
> [{quoted}](name=Mye,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=TexOxHOj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-08-13T02:57:26.213+0000) > > As someone who watches NA more for heavy misplays and funny moments, my team would kinda look like this: > > Top- RF legendary/Flaresz > Jungle- Crumbz (part of the rift herald "highlight moment") > Mid- Goldenglue/Slooshi (TL may have been onto something) > Bot- Ohq > Support- Kiwikid/Matt > > Not only would they be hilarious to watch, but I'm pretty sure that combined they currently hold the record for worst career KDA's at their respective positions, barring Ohq who I'd just want as he played hyper agro and was massively hyped up. Every time i see someone mention RF, i remember how much he used to and probably still does, cry on stream. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}} id watch this team to feel better about my day 100%
: Dream LCS Team?
As far as NA goes Ssumday in top lane Xmithie in jungle with Reignover on sub Bjergsen mid DoubleLift with Piglet as a duo to switch off when needed Smoothie as support.
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: If you are giving DLift runner up based on Summer split, he should be dropped behind Cody Sun who has been a beast all split while DLift for much of the first half was indistinguishable from WildTurtle, carried into late game when he was finally able to backline and do his job behind play makers. Shrimp does not belong. While he has been a good player and worked well with his team, he ranks in the Top 5 in his role in just a single stat, Kill Participation, while he is in the Bottom 5 deaths for full time jungles. In literally every way both LirA and Mike Yeung are better than Shrimp. Strong cases can be made for Contractz, Xmithie, and Svenskeren being at least Shrimps equals. And why no love for Ssong? Cop managed to squeeze Dig one game over Imt into the Spring playoffs just to get blown out, and right now Dig is the dark horse fighting for #4. Not a bad year for Cop, but by contrast Ssong got a key move made that turned his team from #7 to #1, molding his squad swiftly into a juggernaut to be feared. Too much love and credit being given over to Dig when others are just as worthy or more so.
> [{quoted}](name=ChompyWulf,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=u7R74IIM,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-08-02T15:47:05.283+0000) > > If you are giving DLift runner up based on Summer split, he should be dropped behind Cody Sun who has been a beast all split while DLift for much of the first half was indistinguishable from WildTurtle, carried into late game when he was finally able to backline and do his job behind play makers. > > Shrimp does not belong. While he has been a good player and worked well with his team, he ranks in the Top 5 in his role in just a single stat, Kill Participation, while he is in the Bottom 5 deaths for full time jungles. In literally every way both LirA and Mike Yeung are better than Shrimp. Strong cases can be made for Contractz, Xmithie, and Svenskeren being at least Shrimps equals. > > And why no love for Ssong? > Cop managed to squeeze Dig one game over Imt into the Spring playoffs just to get blown out, and right now Dig is the dark horse fighting for #4. Not a bad year for Cop, but by contrast Ssong got a key move made that turned his team from #7 to #1, molding his squad swiftly into a juggernaut to be feared. > > Too much love and credit being given over to Dig when others are just as worthy or more so. I can see the point on Cody Sun, and LirA to me is better right now than Shrimp, yes but thats because we didnt see Shrimp in spring, and Mike Yeung yeah can be a good replacement for Shrimp at runner up but ive seen more impressive control coming from Shrimp than Mike Yeung, you could blame it on the fact that Shrimp has DIG to play off of and Mike Yeung doesnt, and if they were switched Mike would be probably winning the MVP and the end of the year, and its kinda the way i decided that for runner up. So yeah you swayed me on Mike and Cody but Cop, i mean imagine DIG and IMT last year, Top of the NA LCS for IMT and not even in the LCS for DIG. Look at the players coming into spring, IMT had Pobelter, Flame and Olleh and Dardoch, looking at them youd think, im pretty sure everyone thought "Wow playoffs for sure". Hell i was fanboying for IMT before spring even began. Then DIG only really had who? Ssumday, an under performing jungler from Korea in Chaser, Keane who people said was dead weight and treated like GoldenGlue sometimes, only being good for "I wonder what troll pick Keane will take here" and you had LoD and Xpecial, that team didnt look too good, and it wasnt in fact it sucked out loud. Then Cop comes, sees what is wrong and fixes it, still keeping some players who sounded questionable while letting go of names people thought DIG needed, like Stunt, Xpecial, LoD, Chaser and Big and keeping keeping Keane, grabbing Shrimp and making the call for Altec and Adrian who people didnt even see since Summer 2016 ended. He took the risks and made sure the players he got ensured DIG went from not even good enough to be in the LCS to being a playoff contender, while Ssong took a team with strong aspects and added one key piece. Ssong to me might be the runner up, but Cop is still the winner here.
: Dardoch rages the best, does that count ?
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=u7R74IIM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-08-02T08:21:10.363+0000) > > Dardoch rages the best, does that count ? Only in our hearts, where it truly matters.
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: Dardoch Out from CLG, picked up by.....Team Liquid?!
Reignover being replaced by Dardoch? Reignover? Dude, this is just a chance for Reignover to go to a better team and smash. TL is making a really big mistake.
MrHaZeYo (NA)
: I guess I'm a C9 Fanboy but Jensen at 4? and Jensen getting shat on by Keane? I guess we didn't watch the same games, think he died what once in the 2nd two games vs Dig. Jensen job is to hold down mid and draw attention, and he does a fine job of doing it. Idk how you can rank C9 behind Dig after they beat them (twice this split).
> [{quoted}](name=MrHaZeYo,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=rYriV5mu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-07-24T08:52:24.327+0000) > > I guess I'm a C9 Fanboy but Jensen at 4? and Jensen getting shat on by Keane? I guess we didn't watch the same games, think he died what once in the 2nd two games vs Dig. Jensen job is to hold down mid and draw attention, and he does a fine job of doing it. > > Idk how you can rank C9 behind Dig after they beat them (twice this split). When I say Keane shat on him I'm talking about game 1. Jensen was nonexistent save for the first roam top on Ssumday, Keane was able to out perform him so hard in game 1 and neutralized his roams. And about me wanting Jensen to not be mid until 30min. This was Bjergs problem when he first came to TSM, he needs to step up and dominate the rest of the map. He can be THE best mid laner in NA and be on par with guys like Crown Pawn and even draw respect from Faker if he did this. I WANT to see Jensen be the roaming map conrolling beast he was is spring, I want people to argue of Bjerg or Jensen is better, but this style he's showing now is only good for a domestic showing. He can be legit MVP and be the best player in NA, but he isn't showing it
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: rift rivals, who you think will take it?
I feel like Fnatic or UoL will be the two teams kind seeing who will win Rift Rivals. TSM looks great but they arent as on the ball as Fnatic or UoL. Itll be nice to see Bjergsen vs guys like Exileh, Perkz and Caps but this is just a battle between Fnatic and UoL to see who will beat TSM.
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: Runes Reforged: Picking your playstyle
Great, now i can have student loan Debt AND League debt {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: Help a Bronzie out
Shen can crap on him in lane just by trolling his barrels on last hit, as well as ruin his ulti to protect your squishies. Early ganks help to delay the eventual scaling into being nuts with damage, a bronze gangplank will run out of mana fast trying to last hit, so taking Pantheon and harassing him with your spear every time he walks up (and they will telegraph it) to Q a minion for extra gold. Using a pick that can poke him down and force him to spam W for heals works too, make him CS under tower, most bronze players cant CS well and he will almost pray to god he can barrel correctly if you poke him down, waste his mana and force him under tower. You can do this with Jayce and Fiora since theyre just as bad to deal with as he is with more reliable damage. If he is fed or just has items to be trouble later in the game, do not force fights or fight at all in small quarters of the map, get him in an open area, make him work to set up those barrels and get himself in danger. Like for me, im mostly playing Lee and Elise, if i can land that cocoon to make him waste his W, its on and he's dead, barrel or not. I also like to flash kick GP away from his barrels and into my team with Lee. His damage mostly comes from barrels and if you can stop them, you can shut down GP in Bronze pretty damn hard. As a support main, try taking something that can make him panic flash or use his W too soon so you can shit on his barrels easier or just flat out kill him, like a Thresh pick or a Bard. My absolute favorite to mess with a GP in bronze, is maxing E on Nasus, not worrying about your stacks and going full tank. He walks up to CS with Q? drop your E on him, he tries to Q you? Drop the W and E, make him waste his W and keep harassing him. Dorans Ring and biscuits with 0/18/12 as masteries, Thunderlords or Stormraiders either is good, make sure to take bandit, meditation and runic armor. Give him the Quas dicking. GP is really easy to deal with at any point of the game in bronze once you figure out he sucks with no barrel pressure.
: [Personal] What is your favorite champion in each subclass?
{{champion:98}} for warden..............................{{champion:79}} for Vanguard {{champion:2}} for juggernaut.........................{{champion:421}} for diver {{champion:60}} for Assassin............................{{champion:24}} for Skirmisher {{champion:134}} for Burst mage........................{{champion:8}} for Battle mage...................{{champion:101}} for artillery mage {{champion:267}} for Enchanter.........................{{champion:432}} for catcher {{champion:29}} for Marksman
: You played supp 5 games out of your 20 lasts games, it's 25% autofill. It means you get what you want 75% of the time, it's enough no ?
> [{quoted}](name=Starcraft243ver,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NhJirlm5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-26T11:55:15.848+0000) > > You played supp 5 games out of your 20 lasts games, it's 25% autofill. > > It means you get what you want 75% of the time, it's enough no ? Think of it like this, you dont support, you suck at it, youre willing to give it a go anyway to get it over with. 90% of the time its support autofill, so you go in, dont do well and think okay, that its, back to my main role, time flies when youre doing what you like then bam, back to something that seems like a hurdle more than it does enjoyment. Count in the majority of toxic people and you wont have a good time with 25% of your games being flamed at until you just accept that support needs to be something youre good at whether you like it or not to end up enjoying the game.
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GForce9x (NA)
: How come TSM is never referred to as Team Solo Mid anymore?
Probably easier branding, people are going to quickly get TSM in their head than Team Solo Mid, also Regi has other teams in different games under his brand. WWE did the same thing, no longer referring to themselves as World Wrestling Entertainment since they arent only about wrestling anymore. So since TSM is no longer only about LoL, it makes sense to just refer to themselves as TSM.
: Both C9 and IMT made DIG look like a second rate team. I'm a bit surprised considering how strong DIG started. Although, I think next week will make all the standings solidify. CLG vs C9, IMT vs TSM, C9 vs TSM. After that, it will be hard to argue who is better With that said, IMT, TSM, CLG, and C9 all looked good. TSM. Each team however, has shown some obvious trend that internationally would not work. Sven seems to be only good on Lee. Bjerg loves to play 2 champions only. Jensen mostly plays Ori. Xmithie on Gragas. Also, Sneaky is having a bad split? As the caster have said it last week, his stats, and consistency makes him top 2, if not the best ADC in NA.
> [{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=dXYFIaG7,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-06-26T04:07:00.706+0000) > > Both C9 and IMT made DIG look like a second rate team. I'm a bit surprised considering how strong DIG started. Although, I think next week will make all the standings solidify. CLG vs C9, IMT vs TSM, C9 vs TSM. After that, it will be hard to argue who is better > > With that said, IMT, TSM, CLG, and C9 all looked good. TSM. Each team however, has shown some obvious trend that internationally would not work. Sven seems to be only good on Lee. Bjerg loves to play 2 champions only. Jensen mostly plays Ori. Xmithie on Gragas. > > Also, Sneaky is having a bad split? As the caster have said it last week, his stats, and consistency makes him top 2, if not the best ADC in NA. I dont count stats as much as i do count their ability to impact for the team. Someone like Froggen would be number 1 or 2 every week if i did that, but his lack of early game roaming and pressure, leave Echo Fox in the hole, and why i was happy to put Jensen top as mid was he finally roamed, got good vision and pressured, something he rarely did this split, but did a lot last. Sneaky hasnt really been translating the lead he gets in bottom and it showed in their losses, i say bad split with Sneaky because its like he's either trying something new with his style or just flat out isnt being that ADC that gets a huge lead and makes the bottom side of the map a danger zone for junglers and roaming mid laners like he did in spring.
: Small error, saying Dardoch showed his play making even while losing to CLG. Of course you mean loss to IMT. The only thing I would say is that individually Pobelter and Xmithie aren't necessarily the best at their position. What has made them shine is ability to move and flow with their team. Rather than either of them being the tip of the spear, they are the explosive that detonates when the missile impacts on target.
> [{quoted}](name=ChompyWulf,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=dXYFIaG7,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-26T02:55:38.677+0000) > > Small error, saying Dardoch showed his play making even while losing to CLG. Of course you mean loss to IMT. > The only thing I would say is that individually Pobelter and Xmithie aren't necessarily the best at their position. What has made them shine is ability to move and flow with their team. Rather than either of them being the tip of the spear, they are the explosive that detonates when the missile impacts on target. Noted and fixed, thank you my guy
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Ospraey (NA)
: the thing is, no one is crediting the overall imt. olleh is causing so much stress in champ select for the enemy teams. the reason is, he can play bard, morgana and thresh. champs like those with perfection. this causes enemy teams to be scared of what olleh has to counter your pick. also the kid never misses anything, I swear he was a sniper in his past life. also cody sun. the dude isn't even seen as anything. people can steal his Caitlyn or his varus. but hes shown he can go off on tristana or even a champion like jhin. these two put so much strain on champ select for the enemy. lets also bring up "the notorious" POB. Pobelter had a great first year on immortals but, people only credit that success because of the super team they had with the "Korean brothers". 2017 spring split pobelter didn't look remotely promising. but, in this split so far POB has been the most consistent mid lane. he can play assassins, utility or even harass champions all well. the next player is flame. wow flame has been solid. people should be able to see the fact that flame isn't like most top lanes. flames been able to delay so many pushes on the towers hes at. this even netted them a first tower in game 1 against clg. flame is also good at creating a cs lead against his opponents. Finally, the saviour of immortals. Xmithie. this mans been going crazy. every one credits the fact that he is like a big brother with all the utility champions he played on clg. but, xmithie has been destroying with these aggressive jungler. xmithie has had some amazing elise games, especially against c9 in game 3. what do you think of the players of immortals
> [{quoted}](name=PRÌÐE,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=I1srk2n8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-24T02:37:40.077+0000) > > the thing is, no one is crediting the overall imt. olleh is causing so much stress in champ select for the enemy teams. the reason is, he can play bard, morgana and thresh. champs like those with perfection. this causes enemy teams to be scared of what olleh has to counter your pick. also the kid never misses anything, I swear he was a sniper in his past life. also cody sun. the dude isn't even seen as anything. people can steal his Caitlyn or his varus. but hes shown he can go off on tristana or even a champion like jhin. these two put so much strain on champ select for the enemy. lets also bring up "the notorious" POB. Pobelter had a great first year on immortals but, people only credit that success because of the super team they had with the "Korean brothers". 2017 spring split pobelter didn't look remotely promising. but, in this split so far POB has been the most consistent mid lane. he can play assassins, utility or even harass champions all well. the next player is flame. wow flame has been solid. people should be able to see the fact that flame isn't like most top lanes. flames been able to delay so many pushes on the towers hes at. this even netted them a first tower in game 1 against clg. flame is also good at creating a cs lead against his opponents. Finally, the saviour of immortals. Xmithie. this mans been going crazy. every one credits the fact that he is like a big brother with all the utility champions he played on clg. but, xmithie has been destroying with these aggressive jungler. xmithie has had some amazing elise games, especially against c9 in game 3. what do you think of the players of immortals All of them are top in their respective role, in my mind i have Cody being better than DoubleLift, he's just way better on every ADC pick he's been on. Flame, im kind of silent on Flame because i remember Flame in LCK, even when CJ Entus was screwing up before getting relegated, Flame was still a nightmare for teams so its another day in the office for him. I tend to gush about Pobelter and Xmithie the most because these guys were so bad last split and seen as liabilities and im excited and happy to see them dominant like i knew they could be. Olleh too, he's part of THE best bot lane in NA right now but being able to give IMT the "Its not the shiny ring, the ability was in you all along" treatment for IMT is huge. I want people to understand while in game, the rest of IMT is 100% to credit for their wins, but as a teammate, Xmithie has done so much for the team.
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: Thank you ! Not really what I wanted personally all considering but meh, also what if 2 teams has the same record for example what if TSM/C9 beat 2 of the EU teams twice but can't beat say FNC losing twice for both TSM and C9 ?
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XwUjwMYM,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-23T13:31:37.486+0000) > > Thank you ! > Not really what I wanted personally all considering but meh, also what if 2 teams has the same record for example what if TSM/C9 beat 2 of the EU teams twice but can't beat say FNC losing twice for both TSM and C9 ? tie breaker game or some convoluted way of who has the more "impressive" record, they always change how hey go about avoiding tie breakers.
: Can someone explain the format to me ? I'v seen the Riot format and article but just not getting it ! This is what I'm getting out of it ( EXAMPLES ) Every region teams face the opposite region teams twice ( TSM vs G2(2), UOL(2), FNC(2) - P1 vs G2(2) etc etc etc Then all teams are put up against each other ranging from the best region team vs the worst respective region, they play whichever team loses gets swapped with the next team and so on ? I'm kinda getting like a Survivor series type of thing from it where the team that wins their match up is still in place vs the next team similar to like a "tag" or something.
> [{quoted}](name=III BAKURYU III ,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=XwUjwMYM,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-23T12:21:50.569+0000) > > Can someone explain the format to me ? I'v seen the Riot format and article but just not getting it ! > This is what I'm getting out of it ( EXAMPLES ) > > Every region teams face the opposite region teams twice ( TSM vs G2(2), UOL(2), FNC(2) - P1 vs G2(2) etc etc etc > Then all teams are put up against each other ranging from the best region team vs the worst respective region, they play whichever team loses gets swapped with the next team and so on ? > I'm kinda getting like a Survivor series type of thing from it where the team that wins their match up is still in place vs the next team similar to like a "tag" or something. Every team goes against the other region's team twice, best record after that from EU and best record from NA square off to see who wins
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: Jensen on 3? Really? They lose the match and this guy still has the best KDA, Damage output, and cs of almost all mid laners... Not just once, but consistently. Everything else is spot on
> [{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=pc9PFTha,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-06-19T04:08:48.464+0000) > > Jensen on 3? Really? They lose the match and this guy still has the best KDA, Damage output, and cs of almost all mid laners... Not just once, but consistently. > > > Everything else is spot on I have him at 3 because he hasnt really been roaming or making as much as a team wide impact as Bjerg or Pobelter. If he did, he would be instant number one, far out performing anything Bjerg would throw at C9. But he never seems to get side lanes going or fighting out of lane before 20 minutes unless he is on Ekko. Not a knock on him at all, but he is just missing that one factor that is keeping him from Perkz and Bjerg levels.
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