: Patch 9.6 Notes
A: Who the hell thought Urgot needed a buff? B: I wish Riot would stop with these super dramatic skins. I shouldn't have to think, "Who the hell is that?" the first second I see a champion come out of fog because it doesn't remotely resemble the champ anymore.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: Unfortunately, the reality is that account selling and purchasing is a thing. Just look at youtubers like The Glacierr or Tyler1. The lower the rank, the cheaper the account is. Smurfs can basically afford to be in any elo they want for cheap change and riot can't stop them prior to the fact of discovering the incident.
That's unfortunate, I wonder if they actively seek out account selling sites or just don't care until it's caught.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: If you are looking for a game where nobody complains about anything, you're on the wrong planet.
that was in no way the point of anything in this thread.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: i've recently asked riot support about this and the bottom line was that "the system can tell the difference between a smurf and a new player and ranks them accordingly. When the placements happen most new players end up in iron." (i'm paraphrasing)
I mean if the system is that good I can't argue with it. Like I said though it just seems so weird that so many complain about it in game then. I think the most shocking thing is the number of bots in games and number of people jus tleaving straight up.
: Any suggestions on how to prevent people from making smurfs that wouldn't interfere with the idea that the game was free to play? The matchmaking algorithm already does a pretty good job to quickly sort the smurfs away from the not-smurfs. Bots are also always going to be a problem in any F2P game at early levels. Given it's a F2P game, it costs nothing to make a new bot once one is banned. Ban waves (where they flag the account and ban the account at a later date) at least hit the buyer side of the equation. A potential account buyer is less likely to buy an account when they aren't sure if it's a ticking time bomb. Less buyers means less demand, less demand means less supply.
I mean I can think of a way to make smurfs admit they're smurfs to the system of their own accord, but if the system REALLY is as good as people are claiming I find it weird that so many people complain about smurfs in these games then. If you are one too, why's it bother you? kind of thing.
: So youre ruining other players experience whilr saying the experience is bad pre30... Congratulations youre part of the problem!
Wanna explain that to me? Because i'm playinig a champ in an off role to learn it low level? Versus playing my main and just destroying them for the lol's
: 10 day chat restriction for 1 game. Deserved? Tips?
I would say no. But, Riot uses kindergarten rules so if you are getting angry at the person being toxic or trolling you're just as guilty. So, technically yes, you deserve it. As someone with a brain that doesn't think in black and white, no you dont, but I don't decide who gets punishments, so it's best to mute.
: There is no problem. Smurfs get matched with smurfs, so if you are creating a new account you'll have a way different pre30 experience than actual new players.
Eh that's not true a lot of the time. There are people who are genuinely new, since we're using that kind of evidence, "I have friends who are trying to play league" and they seem to get constantly matched with smurfs. also, you can int or play badly and the system will not flag you as a smurf. So now you're just an inting smurf ruining the games for other because "you dont care"
Rioter Comments
: LITERALLY inting on stream AND made a video about it. i reported him 4 times and still, no ban
Riot. Fix. This. Shit. He is intentionally ruining games for your player. Are you okay with this because he makes you a lot of money?
: I do kind of get a sense that there are more people out there who think that as long as they don't rage they wont get in trouble or at least will get in less trouble, since there's a belief that most punitive actions are based on the chat.
Yes. people who get mad at inters and verbalize it are punished much faster and more frequently than the inters themselves.
: Out of all my games in the past few weeks, i haven't seen 1 person I could say fed on purpose. Maybe it's different for you. That being said, the damage in game is super high right now. Combine that with the fact that most players don't know how to play from behind, or picked a champ who's only particularly good when ahead, picked a champ who's stats make them nonviable or simply don't have enough experience with said champ (though if that's the case they shouldn't play it in ranked) and you end up with what some people call "inters". If you truly think someone is "inting", try being supportive of them and help them get an advantage. Sure they might be upset they got auto-filled or w/e, but I doubt a fed player is gonna want to feed.
I personally don't feel we should have to stroke the ego of players who want to hold a team hostage. They should be removed from the game and not allowed to continue ruining it for others. I clarified in the OP that I do not mean people who are just having a bad game and addressed those overusing the phrase.
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ftbdf1Ta,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-08T03:23:48.328+0000) > > I mean, you got super defensive over nothing. you're rage downvoting the entire thread, and you're just acting irrational. It's not my scene lol. Best of luck for you. You came to the forum asking for clarity and I gave you my perspective. I wouldn't have even shared my opinion on something like this if it wasn't from someone I recently sympathized with (your last post). I've done my best to keep my opinion of you out of it, but if you're gonna be snarky and condescending hell ya I'm gonna defend myself. I don't really respect the opinion of someone who thinks emotional responses equate to irrationality, especially from someone who has typed nothing but emotional AND irrational responses the entire "conversation."
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ftbdf1Ta,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-08T03:17:29.759+0000) > > You went from 0 to super emotional in one post, so I think your thinking is correct. 'Cause I said hell? Oh I get it, you're just trying to sweep the rug with every comment and you're hypocritically fixating on votes. Are you R107 Games?
I mean, you got super defensive over nothing. you're rage downvoting the entire thread, and you're just acting irrational. It's not my scene lol. Best of luck for you.
: Is it just me ...
I think ErylFauna is just rage downvoting everyone now lol
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ftbdf1Ta,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T22:21:29.350+0000) > > That's just giving them an excuse for their behavior. No matter how much anyone has ever flamed me, or pissed me off, I have never once intentinally fed. You can mute toxic behavior, but inting is circumventing that and finding a way to harm others in a different way. No matter what is said you should NEVER int. Where the hell are you getting any of that from what I just said? I didn't give any excuses for inters. I said they do it because they are bored and angry and if you want to discourage it, the most effective way to do that is to ignore everything they do. They want attention so the more you talk about them ingame, the more you encourage the behavior. I don't know why you are explaining to me that people should never int, I never said that they should. Starting to think this isn't going to be a constructive conversation.
You went from 0 to super emotional in one post, so I think your thinking is correct.
: people are adapting, they learned there is no point in typing in chat since it's an autoban, so they just run it down or soft int, + they know that tilts people even more
Isn't it sick how people that like to ruin games for others always find a way? They have now decided instead of "kys" they can type "ky5" and get away with it. Reeee.
: yesterday i had a varus vs veigar mid (in urf) varus died at lv 1 to veigar and said "using exhaust what a noob" so i asked him how he got into exhaust range as varus, who's q has about 2,5 times more range than veigar. his answer was "open mid" then he went afk jungling completely ignoring the team and making us lose. now lets pretend this isnt urf but ranked where this happens often enough aswell. even the most brainless toxic person will eventually realize that, while riot goes for the bad chat people, they did almost nothing against trolls and inters the last 3 years. if i had to pick between calling someone a noob or to run it down straight for 50 games, id take the inting because its much more unlikely to get punished for it.
Yep. It should be a one shot deal. If you get caught inting one single time, instant ban.
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=ftbdf1Ta,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-03-07T21:25:53.039+0000) > > I'm not sure what "chatting to these inters" would hav e to do wwith anything. But, no I don't typically say anything at all if people start doing this. I am talking about people admitting they give up, or stop trying. Or they start with the "woops" "teehee" "XD" when they feed. > > Yes people overuse the word inting. Im not talking ab out the morons who says that every game. I'm saying once every few games someone genunitely ints, not just has a bad game. Well since you don't chat with or about inters it's not relevant, but doing so almost always encourages the behavior. Best course of action is to completely ignore it until they get bored and realize they aren't tilting anyone. Especially if they are trying to goad people with emotes and chat, ignoring them is your best course of action (before endgame report). I get people threatening to throw and goading people like that very frequently, and it never lasts the entire game UNLESS it's acknowledged and therefore encouraged. These people just want attention and if you show them that they only get your attention for playing the game, they will change their behavior.
That's just giving them an excuse for their behavior. No matter how much anyone has ever flamed me, or pissed me off, I have never once intentinally fed. You can mute toxic behavior, but inting is circumventing that and finding a way to harm others in a different way. No matter what is said you should NEVER int.
: What riot and the riot knob gobblers will say is "yes, it is just you, you are delusional or lying, your chances of having a troll or inter is 1,000,00:1" Their stance is to simply deny the existence of trolls so they don't have to address it, and then ban anyone who says even the slightest thing "unfriendly". So this is what you get, nobody takes their frustration out in chat, they just int.
honestly I would be like "stop blaming riot" in the past. But, at this point it's getting out of control.
: What I see almost every single game is people insisting that someone is inting. I know you clarified that you are not just bming but you wouldn't happen to be chatting with these accused inters would you? Obvious throwing is caught by the bot and manual reviews if you submit one. If it's not obvious, no reason to point it out that will just tilt people further.
I'm not sure what "chatting to these inters" would hav e to do wwith anything. But, no I don't typically say anything at all if people start doing this. I am talking about people admitting they give up, or stop trying. Or they start with the "woops" "teehee" "XD" when they feed. Yes people overuse the word inting. Im not talking ab out the morons who says that every game. I'm saying once every few games someone genunitely ints, not just has a bad game.
: I scarcely see this kind of behavior unless there was an argument or something in chat. Sometimes, I see someone troll from the start and try to get a rise out of people but not inting specifically.
That's truly shocking it. I see it at least once every 5 games.
Voldymort (EUNE)
: It's not hard to prove if you submit a ticket and ask for a manual review
Realistically a lot of ppl dont do that. Especially in higher ranks where they just want to chain games. So these people run free because riot doesn't have a way to detect these withtout "looking deeper" Someone made a suggestion about flagging your account after a certain number of deaths. I think that wwould be a start, although it's not enough.
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eBZAnzE7,comment-id=0005000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-06T21:03:37.091+0000) > > yeah no. The whole "Don't be bothered by it just let people say and do wwhat they wwant" is how really bad shit happens. > > My suggestion is egirl become a word that is flagged in reports as sexist behavior. it is not, and never has been, used as a compliment. The "joke" is like "joking" that girls are bad at shit, or should go back in the kitchen. Do you think that's funny to many females? i know the go back to the kitchen meme is pretty funny to everyone, and i have a friend whos a girl that says "there is only one gender and it is male" ironically a lot. And egirl to me has never been that females are bad at league, some people literally think egirl means a girl who plays support, unnofensively, so yea
Who are you to say it's "unoffensive" see the problem here?
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eBZAnzE7,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-03-03T04:21:47.507+0000) > > I understand that is how some people use it. But, it is mostly used as a way to insinuate a girl who is playing the game that isnt as good as guys so was boosted. > > I know it is alsos used as like the girls that do the whole "i can be your girlfriend teehee" crap, but this is used as a derogatory term towards female gamers. i mean, i know people who say egirl as a joke and apparently its offensive even when they dont mean it, and are using it ironically, but just understand that rough jokes are rough, and yea there are some idiots out there who DO use it derogatory but hey, some people are assholes and there isnt much we can do about it
yeah no. The whole "Don't be bothered by it just let people say and do wwhat they wwant" is how really bad shit happens. My suggestion is egirl become a word that is flagged in reports as sexist behavior. it is not, and never has been, used as a compliment. The "joke" is like "joking" that girls are bad at shit, or should go back in the kitchen. Do you think that's funny to many females?
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=eBZAnzE7,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T02:59:44.005+0000) > > Oh, so the N word isn't racist, just the way it's used. > > Got it. Black people call each other the N word all the time, it's in more rap songs than I can count. So ya sometimes it isn't racist.
Oh yeah, all female players call each other egirls. You're right.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Nice thread. Good points but none of these (at least at ranked) improve your win chances. Luck is the determining factor, if you get a team with 3 other people same elo with you, you win if not and you get 4 teamates at gold 5 you lose. Simple as that
Yeah this is the mentality of a person who is hard stuck and doesn't understand why.
FSRER (EUNE)
: Nice thread. Good points but none of these (at least at ranked) improve your win chances. Luck is the determining factor, if you get a team with 3 other people same elo with you, you win if not and you get 4 teamates at gold 5 you lose. Simple as that
Yeah this is the mentality of a person who is hard stuck and doesn't understand why.
: no we dont. i think you just need to understand what a "weak mentality" really means. all its really meant to do is exploit a mistake by the enemy thats all. try to tilt them even more makes for a easy game. it is a duel edged sword because if you have them the next game they are already in tilt mode.
Easy wwith that royal "we" I think you mean "I" I understand that, and my question is still above, if this is a viable strat why is it not allowed in pro play?
Naalith (NA)
: I think friendly competitive banter is a fun part of the game. Saying "you're bad" is toxic and you should never do it, but dropping a hot question mark in all chat when you survive a 1v3 gank and get out with a couple kills isn't a big deal. I play jungle a lot and I like to drop the "ty for leash" in all chat when I steal dragons and barons, which I wouldn't say is toxic. There's being an asshole like "gg ez" or "you're bad" or talking shit on your team, etc., but there's nothing wrong with a little meme every now and again. One of my favorite games I played in the last few months was one where I was K/DA Evelynn and the other 3 K/DA characters were on the other team, we were all recalling and dancing in mid together before minions spawned and suddenly their teammates showed up and the enemy team killed me. All game I talked a massive amount of shit about how we were going to come back and by the end of the game I was hyper carry Evelynn status one shotting them for revenge left and right and saying "should've let me dance" etc. I know everyone draws a line as to what is toxic and what is fun banter in all chat, but honestly if you are and the enemy are talking back and forth saying all the shit about how good you are etc., it's really fun and people are getting enjoyment so what's the harm.
I can agree with this to a certain point, but I do have to say the "people are having fun so what's the harm" part I don't agree with. If it ruins another person's game and you're getting enjoy ment at their expense idk about that.
: When you BM in all chat, you're showing a weak mentality.
So everyone condoning this behavior as "a good strategy and totally fine and nontoxic" Why don't they allow pro teams to do it to each other when they are playing in tournaments?
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6clV3G8g,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T14:42:17.284+0000) > > I mean, you just said yourself that you try to get them to fight with each other. That's perpetuating toxicity. > > By the way i never once said this was banable. I said it makes you seem mentally weak in game. Why doesn't it make me seem mentally weak?
It makes you seem mentally weak because you are already cocky. when you're cocky you're more likely to make overly aggressive plays because you're underestimating your opponent. It also makes you a target for them to shut down. I almost always focus the person who acts this way because I think they think they are the shit and they are going to blame their team for any mistakes
: Signing up for these ones. Others are either situational or basic. > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9IJHeH4U,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-03T16:00:25.787+0000) > > > > > > **5. If you can't get one thing, get something else.** > You see this a lot but I'm not just speaking to higher elo players here. If the enemy team is doing baron and dragon is up, and you just cant contest baron, then take dragon, a turret, or something else. Slap up defensive wards and prep for their push. Don't let them get things for free. > > **6. Know that no matter how far behind you are, you can be useful**. > Even if you're just grabbing scuttles, warding, or clearing wards, you're helping your team. > > > > **9. Help your support clear wards.** > Sweeper only lasts so long. If a support sweeps make sure you auto attack wards with them so they can get maximum clearing potential. > > **10. Shut. The. Hell. Up.** > If you're tilted and you have no hope for the game, don't spread your sad mood around. Just farm, do what you can to get xp, andsomeoneeoen flames you mute and report them. Think about what you're going to do late game and how you can benefit your team in another way. If you say "GGWP" because you got ganked, regardless of if you think it should or not, it TILTS people on your team. It's so frustrating to play with somenoe who doesn't get that that the game doesn't revolve around them. So, don't be that guy. > > > I could literally write a book about all the intricacies of map control, but I don't think anyone will read it XD. I hope this is helpful to someone. > > > P.S {{champion:64}} you fall off hard late game. Stop taking all the kills.
I would like to think they are basic, but I have many games where i get to 30 mins and people have 10 ward score raging about being camped
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9IJHeH4U,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-03-03T16:00:25.787+0000) > > > **5. If you can't get one thing, get something else.** Even pro teams can't do this every time, so I don't really expect it of solo queue players, but my god, this is basically 99% of league. Take what you **can**.
: Honestly its always the one who bitch all game and try to shotcall but have like a 5 wardscore at 25 minutes. Stop typing and ward something. I dont care if its a shit ward cuz then ill at least know if someones in a shit spot. And leave your lane and help your jungler win lvl 2-3 skuttle fights. Snowballing is huge this season
Dude I know. Or they've swapped for a far sight for literally nooooo reason lol.
Rioter Comments
: I'll do it gently if they're toxic or keep camping my lane partially to tilt them, and partially to discourage them because they're annoying me
This has nothing to do with the why, or if it's mean that you do this. If youo're cocky after a 3 kill lead for example, it's really easy to throw that lead. When someone VERBALIZES that they already think they're going to win, I personally relax if theyre on the enemy team, and roll my eyes i'f they're on my team because I know they are going to make some stupid plays.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: 1. BM- ing is a valid tactic which can help you to gain advantage over your opponent. Even tho it's a cheap trick. 2. As long as BM doesn't devolve into harassment, it's not toxic nor punishable. 3. Just look at some emotes and you'll see Riot's stance on competitive BM-ing.
Re-read OP. Literally NOTHING about bans, reports or being toxic towards the enemy.
: Its really not toxic to banter with enemy players. toxic has become such a broad and loose blanket statement. toxic is trolling, inting, soft inting, and harassment. You're not a negative person if you get competitive in all chat. "?" is a little rude but its a psychological tactic to tilt the enemy. I resort to emotes and the occassional unrelated remarks like "i bet you don't even brush your hair". Just because the other player may be mentally unstable does not mean anything of the player who question marked the enemy jg for diving turret vs leona. If your mindset is so weak that someone typing on the internet sends you into a spiral of inting or something similar YOU are the toxic one. You ruin everyone's game experience by letting a question mark penetrate your soft supple skin. I share your resentment in people who flame their teammates and turbo int when something goes south, but competitive banter has been around since quake.
I think everyone really n eeds to read this again. I did not say "this is rude! Stop it's mean!" i said, this makes you look mentally weak because you're already arrogant and underestimating the enemy. Aalost every time I see people do this, since preseason 1, they got too cocky and stopped playing correctly bbecause they already had the "LOL i win they're bad" mentality, and make dumb choices.
: I don't agree with that logic whatsoever, and it seems to me that you are sensitive.
Where did I say it hurt my feelings? I think you should read the original post again.
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6clV3G8g,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T04:45:53.776+0000) > > No defense. You being toxic has already ruined the game, per riot's own words. My defense is they have a mute button, and I don't do it without cause. For example, if I'm winning, I won't type "GGEZ". It's only really at the beginning when I have a slight advantage and am still able to lose. If they choose not to mute me or to respond in toxic ways to my BM, that's their fault. Competitive BM is allowed. The line is drawn when you start insulting them personally.
I mean, you just said yourself that you try to get them to fight with each other. That's perpetuating toxicity. By the way i never once said this was banable. I said it makes you seem mentally weak in game.
: > [{quoted}](name=AgeOfShadow92,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=6clV3G8g,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-03-03T04:36:27.893+0000) > > So, you try to perpetuate toxic activity. > > That's a big yikes. > > You can tilt someone by invading, counter ganking, etc. I personally almost never see people who do this have a goood game till the end. They almost always in my experience end up mad, and rage feeding becuase of arrogance. In my defense... they could mute ;)
No defense. You being toxic has already ruined the game, per riot's own words.
: I only BM in ranked. Reason is for psychological warfare. It's low, but it often works. If the jungler died to me, I'll nitpick on some things they did in all chat, hoping to turn their bot lane against them so they either tilt/don't come bot. Also say lots of "Better support wins". It shows your support you appreciate their efforts, and love them, and pisses off enemy ADC, who will often say something like "Yeah I wish I had your support, mine is awful" and then the enemy support gets pissed and either tilts/leaves lane.
So, you try to perpetuate toxic activity. That's a big yikes. You can tilt someone by invading, counter ganking, etc. I personally almost never see people who do this have a goood game till the end. They almost always in my experience end up mad, and rage feeding becuase of arrogance.
: > [{quoted}](name=Voldymort,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=lUbMFwMZ,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-03-01T07:35:27.789+0000) > that's not what "thick skinned" means Op said an asshole can ruin my day, I said I'm thick skinned... > so you claim anecdotal evidence is meaningless and then procede to counter with your own... anecdotal evidence Where in my post did I claim anecdotal evidence is meaningless?? > hea meant "over the whole game" He did not specify that. > for the same reason you care about their apathy when you flame for "entertainment"reasons: ego I said flame is entertaining, doesn't mean I'm the one that flames
You said you flame regularly. are you okay?
: Ten reasons why it's better not to flame back
I would like to add something on the more positive end. People who flame generally really care about the game, so do people that say "gg fuck" etc. They are just frustrated. Iif you keep it cool, do your best to play, and play for the W they will probably calm down (as long as you and your temamates don't respond to them) Trolls and flamers aren't the ssame thing btw. So, anyway, if you ignore them and pick up the W, you can always still report them in the end. >:)
: wut. no. egirl means a girl whos desperate for attention and says stupid shit to attract guys.
I understand that is how some people use it. But, it is mostly used as a way to insinuate a girl who is playing the game that isnt as good as guys so was boosted. I know it is alsos used as like the girls that do the whole "i can be your girlfriend teehee" crap, but this is used as a derogatory term towards female gamers.
: Sexism and harasment, Reporting further than after game possible?
I actually see this often and just made a thread about it. I'm sorry it is happening and it's messed up. This is why people don't really know how many girls play league, because we get trolled, harassed, or hit on as soon as people find out we are female.
: Enemy team camping pool instead of hitting nexus
Glad to know this is reportable. Do it every time you see it. It is one of the worst behaviors in league of legends.
: Tilt: i need help, i'm desperate!
Stop playing for a while. Stop playing ranked; if you are having this problem in normals the game probably isn't for you. Mute people who flame you, and report them. Yes, reports do work. Play normals and make sure you play the game for FUN. If I play a lot of ranked and deal with a lot of ppl playing badly, I realize I'm no longer having fun. At that point you need to find the fun in the game again, or play something else for a while. I do this by playing ARAMs or other games completely. You REALLY do play better when you take a break. You pay more attention and it's like hitting reset on your brain when it comes to the game. Good luck.
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