Konotori (NA)
: So, we gut a champ who has more telegraphing and counterplay than anyone else on the roster...
Purgë (EUW)
: this stupidty of juggernauts maxing E to poke pepole out of lane need to stop
: dafuq? you spam E 24/7 on morde same with W, and W gives 2 stacks then press spellbinder get movement speed, use ult+E and adc is dead,
Except for the part where it's impossible to stack. Kayle uses E all the damn time and I don't really see anything. Morde W giving 2 stacks is kinda nice tho. I really only see Cassio (and AP Ezreal?) using this item.
Fawksea (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JAgglARd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-24T00:58:47.675+0000) > > Now we're circlejerking Warwick despite him being fine? full tank with more healing and damage than a vlad, he was never fine, not in comparison to every other champion like him
More vlading for vlad? When do you see Warwick healing for 1500 HEALTH at 5 items?
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JAgglARd,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-02-24T00:58:47.675+0000) > > Now we're circlejerking Warwick despite him being fine? wait until new rune comes to live lmao
Rioter Comments
: 2 words for new AP itemization
Spellbinder is shit though. It's impossible to get stacked for a strong active.
DeJoker (EUNE)
: ADC getting way 2 much movement speed
Because auto attacking forces you to pause and stop moving.
: Thank you for spellbinder. This is the equivalent of Duskblade
: The most balanced item in the game is....
No? The item completely warps the top lane right now.
: tank is not allowed to buffer cc {{champion:516}} marksman is {{champion:18}} {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
Ornn can still buffer CC with his W. Instead of being CC immune, the effect still works on him but it doesn't cancel his W.
xelaker (NA)
: Comebacks are easy peasy...
and what elo? and how often does this occur?
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JAgglARd,comment-id=00020000000000000001,timestamp=2018-02-24T03:39:59.510+0000) > > Warwick's global winrate across all regions and elos is 52%. > > In global diamond plus, it's 48% http://www.metasrc.com/all/5v5/current/champion/warwick/jungle?ranks=diamond,master,challenger Yeah no I trust op.gg amd lolanalytics more than that website you just linked, and they both have at at 55% for this patch. Also that website you linked shows him at an 17% banrate so you just proved my point and answered your own initial question. Even just for today since the patch came out, his winrate in Diamond in Korean solo queue is 56%. Go check op.gg yourself.
and OP.gg, a korean only site, says he has 54% winrate at 5% playrate.
: > [{quoted}](name=AirKingNeo,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=JAgglARd,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2018-02-24T02:46:35.139+0000) > > By who? Warwick is the 10th most banned champion and should be the second most banned jungler after Kha'Zix. The only reason why Rengar's ban rate is so high right now is because he just got partially reverted but that hype will die down soon. 55% winrate in every elo, pubstomps D5 and under, high pickrate, high ban rate. 55% winrate on 3 different keystones in 3 completely different rune trees. His winrate is above 50% on every keystone and secondary rune in the entire fucking game. He is the ONLY champion in the game with stats like that. Stop being stubborn and following the stupid "Warwick is the most balanced rework ever" circle jerk when that's clearly not the case.
Warwick's global winrate across all regions and elos is 52%. In global diamond plus, it's 48% http://www.metasrc.com/all/5v5/current/champion/warwick/jungle?ranks=diamond,master,challenger
: Only banned all the time in high elo and complained about on every high elo stream . Fine btw
: If there is anything you can do to improve Kai'sa, what would it be?
Change her ult's shield to be 150/200/250 (+80% bonus AD)(+75% AP) so it's useful in lane, rather than just being scaling while shit early.
: Riot considered nerfing Shaco because he is "too much of a pubstomp champion" but.....
: {{champion:115}} was indirectly gutted with the AP changes. Still waiting for compensation buffs. {{item:3070}}
Craktite (EUW)
: Ok, Lissandra really needs a buff.
Fix her from being anti melee first.
: other than the removal of trackers knife.. this patch was great..
Slythion (NA)
: Warwick was at a 54% wr and 8% play rate before this patch. The fact that they nerfed Xin b/c of the pta buffs but not WW is probably the only issue I have with this patch
Playrate is 4%. Meanwhile Kha'zix and Eve are much better than him, and Eve got buffed.
: {{champion:75}}{{champion:19}}{{champion:14}} didn't get nerfed. That's one reason to complain about.
: If by dead, you mean he can't spam you with q as much early anymore and cant just zone you out with barrels, and cant use barrels as wards.
Yes, that kills him.
Zalkreai (NA)
: @Riot THANK YOU for Twin Shadows!
60 AP on an item isn't slot efficient
: GP is dead? Hahahaha Kalista dead? Nope Gnar isn’t dead
Kalista lost a lot of early mana and her attack range. Every GP player I know says he's dead. The number 1 Gnar hater in the world, the man-shinshin, Hashinshin says Gnar got big time nerfed.
: By "Broken things", he means everything not Jax. >.>
Jax isn't broken. He said this before, and I agree, "Why does Jax have to be nerfed just for the game to be fixed?"
: M8, who the f*ck curses and wishes harm to other people because of a game? I mean, he's diamond sure, game's can be very toxic (includes not only players, but Riot's decisions as well) which can piss people off, but everything has limits. Whoever you're listen or respect it's opinion starts to talking sh*t, that's the moment when you should question yourself if he's still worth to be heard.
> M8, who the f*ck curses and wishes harm to other people because of a game? Same thing with Football, Baseball, Poker, Magic the Gathering. It's their livelihood.
: Champ Mastery Costs, Masterwork Chests, and Some Loot Buffs
Mastery ranks are still insanely prices. Should be 1000/1500 in my opinion, and obviously add a tier 8 and make it 2000 BE.
: yea cuz shyvana and xin are played top
: {{champion:122}} can have it perma up because of bleed
Doesn't really matter. Everyone has it perma up in skirmishes. Only Darius thing is laning.
Rioter Comments
: Riot has watched and listened to Hashinshin's "finally loses it" video!!!
Or they saw the copy pasta? RRRRRRRIGHT THROUGH THE COUNTER STRIKE, OH i fucking love it, its like having fun except go fucking kill yourself riot just go fucking kill yourself, god damn it dude, it's not even fun to play this shit, i see her coming towards me, i counter strike before she even fucking q's and then IT GOES THROUGH, like i joke about this but its fucking pathetic this company it's pathetic, GOD DAMN IT DUDE
: meanwhile {{champion:19}}
It's not really a buff for jungle soo I'd top lane but BRAMBLE VEST
: does anyone noticed that YI is struggling for 2 years now after removal of sated devourer?
Almost like nerfing a champion for a broken item then never buffing them when you remove said broken thing makes them shit?
: Hashinshin's patch notes: Jax buffed. More Jax buffs. Heck, Jax buffs. Man, look at that, Jax buffs. Oh, you guessed, more Jax buffs. ADCs damage heals enemies, becomes zero damage at 180 minutes, up to 1 damage at 360 minutes. Tanks do zero damage, regardless of game time. Bruisers one shot everything. From towers, to objectives, to the nexus.
You're an idiot. I'm serious because you're intentionally lying. There is zero evidence to support your claim and rather evidence your claim. "I don't want Jax buffed, I want broken things nerfed."
: > [{quoted}](name=AngusBoomPants,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=rn6dNHjl,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-02-21T21:25:52.142+0000) > > How is this worse? This is a bug fix it's perfectly fine. but can you imagine if Hashinshin actually took over balance, dear god that game would be awful.
Despite suggesting everything these boards have been screaming that was logical? Making bruisers not shit by nerfing overpowered things and buffing nothing?
: Nope he was never banned from either, though yes it's against Twitch ToS. Though his statement was addressed to a company rather than an individual so that's why they probably let it slide.
No, it isn't against Twitch's ToS. Post Ex Facto.
: Hashinshin is taking over riot's gameplay team
0 mention of modified autos being fixed.
: No. That logic literally only applies to Darkin Corruption where another entity is physically trying to take over their body. Saying Kai'Sa 'didn't allow the void to consume her' is akin to saying you didn't die from radiation syndrome due to sheer willpower - it's physiologically impossible.
No, you ignored what I said. Malz and Kassadin let the void consume them, that means you have to let the void consume you for it to consume you. Kai'Sa didn't let them, so she wasn't consumed.
Meddler (NA)
: Likely just AD. Generally we want to use Adaptive in the pre-game system to open up choices to a wider range of champions. In this particular case though we felt making this adaptive would lead to it being dominant on various AP scaling tanks in particular, given some have pretty solid AP ratios and high base damages for the % pen or true damage to work off. Those champions aren't lacking in keystone choice as much and we didn't want to have to balance something intended for other users around them. Shield item's still planned, but got deprioritized relative to Runes system follow up (same team).
Since tanks don't build much AP, nor any at all, nerf their ratios. No reason why the keystone needs to be restricted to AD only. Then again, you made Fleet crit only.
: History of top lane and why it is indeed the worst state its ever been.
Basic History of Top Lane: - Every class got a class update except bruisers, leaving them down in the power creep. - Riot buffed armor pen, then buffed tanks to compensate, then nerfed armor pen.
: I get the logic of 'oh but her suit protects her from the void'. But she would have already been looking like Kassadin/Malz long before she made her suit.
No, Malz and Kass allowed the void to consume them.
: People talk of Kassadin and Malzahar being briefly exposed and being corrupted as a result, but they also forget in the new lore Jax was a member of Icathia as well. From what was most likely an extremely brief experience with the Void his skin turned dark purple of molted, as well as whatever else he hides behind his cloak and mask. I too agree that it is kind of strange that all these men were given just a glimpse of the Void and had to suffer the physical consequences, but this one girl not only hasn't really seem to have suffered mentally (that we won't know until her expanded lore/voice over comes out) but physically she seems untouched besides her Venom suit.
Kassadin and Malz accept the void into themselves though.
: This champ really didn't need any sexualization in her design, like fair enough if she still has humanistic qualities but stop with this fan service stuff, you have plenty of champs that fill that role, it just seems dumb we have come from a cool looking void female of Rek'sai to this. Are your quarterly profits down or something? I feel like she doesn't fit in with the rest of the void :/ my two cents on the issue
> This champ really didn't need any sexualization in her design She doesn't. Literally, imagine her design as if it were male. Do you see that the pose isn't sexual nor anything about her is?
: I definetly have to agree. Maybe she is not suppoused to look corrupted, but It just looks like a suit! You also what doesn't make me think of a void hunter, or a symbiotic creature, or Horrific fusion of costume and human? Cleavage. Seriously, if her goal was to survive, why would she cut the creature she wears so she could show off ANY skin?
> Cleavage. Seriously, if her goal was to survive, why would she cut the creature she wears so she could show off ANY skin? What? It covers her to her neck no matter what.
: Because unlike those examples, The Void is another universe, a reality that doesn't follow the same rules as Runeterra. That's why a bunch of Void creatures dumped on Mount Targon began to mutate in Diana's story; they aren't meant to exist in her world. Would wearing human skin stop them from changing? Actually, give me a Reverse Kai'Sa skin, where it's a Void monster wearing her as a suit.
> Because unlike those examples, The Void is another universe, a reality that doesn't follow the same rules as Runeterra. And? You don't think a human wouldn't apply human instinct and try it anyway? You're claiming reality is different because it is a different dimension, but who are you to say?
: In what way would anyone think jumping into the skin of another creature from an entirely separate reality is a good idea? Why would using the body of a Void_born_ creature protect her from The Void? It's like using an irradiated whale corpse to protect yourself from nuclear fallout.
Same way humanity used animal furs to survive the cold.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dmIzTEKQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-02-20T18:42:58.157+0000) > > There isn't an implication she's especially corrupted, in my eyes. In fact, she's still decidedly human -- she didn't give in to Void corruption but rather, through will and her suit, resisted it and learned to fight it physically and mentally. While I agree the corrupted Void human angle could be interesting, it's decidedly *not* what she is meant to be. Considering the very world falls to the corruption of the void, a mere fragile human shouldn't come out of the void after years with no signs of corruption at all. Kassadin prepared for his journey into the void, and he's dying from the corruption even after that. Scuttle is turned into the Rift Herald. There is no reason, no logical reason for a human to come out untouched purely due to willpower. Sure she's got the voidborn suit, but even still, it looks like she could part with that and look exactly like she did going into the void. Not to mention the fact that she takes the name of a Voidborn, which is what upsets me the most out of her design. She just feels extremely disappointing to have as the first void character in 3 years, let alone as a void character with the title of a Voidborn.
> There is no reason, no logical reason for a human to come out untouched purely due to willpower. When was willpower mentioned?
: > Rioters do this all the time. They tell us what we want. I mean, they are also partially at fault, its a two way street that broke down. > Its ok when we complain, and they push through something that we actually end up liking (ward quest on support items). I mean, speak for yourself. I still think that was a terrible decision for several reasons, but i get your point about their action/inaction.
No. Riot broke the street. The players are just now realizing it.
: Instead of New Champ Fix the Game State
Because making champion designs become balance designers hasn't failed before? Oh right, Meddler.
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