: Dude what the fuck is even Cass toplane
I'm gonna regret even coming on this thread because i know boards bias will swarm. But let's break this down. >If you've ever even gone near playing this shit as a melee champion your beyond fucked, and normally it shouldn't even be that bad but Phase rush makes it impossible. You can say the same for teemo, quinn, and kennen. But nobody talks about them like they are cancer because they build accordingly. Literally how you counteract a cass top is how you'd counteract a teemo. Get ganks, rush mr and then they are useless. >Even if you dodge her Poison she just spams twin fangs, ive had death recaps that show literally nothing but twin fangs spam because I CANNOT CATCH HER. She can miss every Q and still kite me because of phase rush and R threat, if you dodge her R (Looking back) it still slows a significant amount allowing her to kite easily, Miasma is basically undodgeable and they removed the range limitation last patch which was the only saving grace for melee champions. So to start off, her e does about 52 damage level 1. Goes up to 120 at level 18. Meaning in laning phase her NOT hitting poison is literally tickling u for 60 damage. It costs 50 mana. Her pool starts at 350 level 1. Her mana including tear is about 793 at level 7. Assuming she's missing EVERY q as you say, that means she's wasting an extra 50 mana to throw q out and then hitting u 3 times with e for 150 mana and about 180 damage. Miasma isnt undodgeable. You just need to be aware of where she can throw it (it literally just got a size nerf) and its 70 mana. Literally any cass player will tell you she is gated by mana early. >The WORST PART OF ALL OF THIS is that she MASSIVELY OUTSCALES despite being a potent lane bully, her passive allows for her unique ability to take 6 non boots items which is even worse than most outscaling champions. Ive played against this champion against and she holds up well against all of them. She thrashes melee champions easily (I think Irelia is the only melee champ that had a chance and thats only because of lucky Miasma dodges) and she goes even or better against ranged champions. She's not a lane bully, she is an immobile mage HIGHLY susceptible to ganks. If she's pushing into you, she can die easily by the jungler ganking. Her passive literally gimps her ms as much as it gives her a sixth slot. And most games dont go long enough to even hit 6 items. Anyone with more range than her literally destroys her. In pro play cass gets countered by orianna syndra. And in most elos katarina ( a melee champ) can beat her. There's a lot of outplay potential to her and complaining that she outscales is ridiculous. Like "ah yes a hyperscaling mage outscaling people? PREPOSTEROUS !) You're basing this SOLELY off your experience which is a poor argument. >She needs her base mobility toned down and have it scale to the same level late game, shift her damage around so spamming E like a tourette syndrome sufferer doesnt work and you have to actually hit her abilities and put back the fucking Miasma range limitation so she doesnt have an 'oh fuck someone actually gap closed well' button 332 Base speed level 1. 400 at level 18. Most tier 2 boots give MINIMUM +45 movement speed. (A lot of champs also go relentless hunter or magical footwear for ADDITIONAL ms.) None of cassio's builds incorporate movement speed items with the rare exception of her going spell binder. Most champions can outrun her early. All the bruiser you talk about her BULLYING have higher base movement speed lmfao. Sorry you got hit by a skillshot that gives her some ms. Guess thats the champs fault. Theres LITERALLY A RANGE LIMITATION WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS . Get this bias off my fucking screen im literally having a stroke. You dont even know the champ stop talking.
: Honestly she's a pain in the ass to deal with mid lane too. She cs's so easily, has great gank assist with W and R, wins most trades if she lands one Q and then just scales like mad into the late game. Also if I'm not mistaken her passive gives her brown boots levels of ms by around level 7.
> has great gank assist with W and R, both of those are her skillshots , >Also if I'm not mistaken her passive gives her brown boots levels of ms by around level 7. her passive is literally SUPPOSED to do that. she's not allowed to buy boots. at all. and in MOST cases a lot of champions are naturally faster than her with t2 boots. Jesus the circlejerk..
: > [{quoted}](name=Azir ate my ASS,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7odXPPoU,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-09T11:56:39.692+0000) > > {{champion:122}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3211}} now she does 0 damage to you GG Ah yes and at the same time my damage starts healing the enemy team, the enemy adc melts me in 4 hits, I have 0 cdr and no extra mana/attackspeed/movespeed etc I get from trinity components. I dont mind starting defensive items but starting spectres cowl on a bruiser is an insta ff
darius literally can go tri into pure tank items and do sufficiently well.. please stop
Moon Mom (NA)
: Eve has been S tier for so long.
Her nerf made her A tier but sure circle jerk boards as usual. It's a wonder why rioters dont comment anymore.
Rioter Comments
: Isn't Eve one of the better junglers in the game?? Also Caitlyn, Zoe, and Ekko are in decent spots already. Then again this wouldn't be the first time as of late a buff made absolutely no sense... {{champion:121}} {{champion:38}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:105}}
Ah yes a tier 2 champ is best jungler in game. jesus christ. meanwhile actual op junglers get to roll around
Aatrøx (EUNE)
: abusable af
making the lp loss of the sole afker, while the rest gain/lose 0 lp.. ah yes extremely abusable i can see why everybody would wanna lose 20+lp /s
Kai Guy (NA)
: Do you understand the concept of a Class interval? > Also im not a he. But typical idiots that cant seem to grasp that everyone isnt male makes sense. I will out of courtesy keep that in mind but I find it highly ironic that your making the exact same assumptions about players genders that your complaining about. Personally I don't care what pattern of chromosomes you got. If your being disrespectful I am gonna call ya out. > you've been gold for like 5 seasons and have an under 50% win rate. Please dont try it. Rank shaming more eh? Classy. Look, for context I don't view silver as bad, its the mode. Its the average player. Comparatively to the top end yea there's huge skill gaps but you don't go out and play a game of soccer then feel like shit because your not at Messi's level. You go out and have fun because its something you enjoy. If you don't enjoy it what's the point. I am not the kind of person who gets their ego injured when you throw my history in my face. I am a bad eve and Sylas player, this is clearly in my history. I am high gold and low Plat at best. This is clearly in my history. Your on a level 20 account. What you say is not supported by any history. I dislike folks who come and shit talk the majority of the player base on an alt. I don't trust your intentions. I expect your going to go around and trash talk players and don't want your main to get punished. That or you have to grind a new account because your main got punished, I cant fathom why that would happen. You seem so very pleasant and friendly. You want to talk about why its harder to climb when your closer to your MMR, the concept is class intervals. You want to shit talk people to feel better? Grow up.
>I will out of courtesy keep that in mind but I find it highly ironic that your making the exact same assumptions about players genders that your complaining about. Personally I don't care what pattern of chromosomes you got. If your being disrespectful I am gonna call ya out. Where did i ever mention in my post that it's a specifically gendered thing. I used their for a reason. >Rank shaming more eh? Classy. You literally tried to rank shame me but ok sweetie. And for the last fucking time, i used this account because this is where the match is from, you're so incredibly annoying it's unreal. >You want to talk about why its harder to climb when your closer to your MMR, the concept is class intervals. You want to shit talk people to feel better? Grow up. You literally made a response being snarky and sarcastic. Let's not play high and mighty now. The concept is not class intervals it's always been harder in plat than any other elo. This was including how hard it is to climb in diamond. It's simply due to the nature of platinum elo. You'd know this if you asked or ever got there but once again you decided to be snarky and presumptuous. Color me surprised
: Degenerated posts like these wouldn't last 5 mins over on the EU boards, I hate those bastard mods lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=Alluring Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2z8ooQdx,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-29T07:12:40.706+0000) > > ??? > As in out of all the elos plat is the most difficult due to ego issues. > Something you wouldnt know because you're silver. I swear to god every low elo boards member that feels even remotely catty is always a lower elo than any one of my smurfs. lmao yikes. so your diamond skilled friends have the biggest problem climbing at the elo that is the closest to diamond? you don't say? yet somehow it's an "ego" thing... whatever you say dude
Plat is literally closer to gold than diamond until you hit like plat 1... please stop being a fucking idiot for 3 seconds
: so your diamond skilled friends have the biggest problem climbing at the elo that is the closest to diamond? you don't say? yet somehow it's an "ego" thing... whatever you say dude
??? As in out of all the elos plat is the most difficult due to ego issues. Something you wouldnt know because you're silver. I swear to god every low elo boards member that feels even remotely catty is always a lower elo than any one of my smurfs. lmao yikes.
Kai Guy (NA)
: Hey now, you cant expect a level 19 player to understand class intervals Zeph. Dudes clearly a challenger smurf. Plats the same as silver to him, something like 90%+ system expectations to win. Everbody knows folks who post on low Level accounts are always challenger smurfs. True facts for the boards,
Are you really trying to go that route sweete? You've been gold for like 5 seasons and have an under 50% win rate. Please dont try it. Also im not a he. But typical idiots that cant seem to grasp that everyone isnt male makes sense. Also the fact that you build liandries swifties on eve,,, really says something about YOUR play level, and not mine. Thank you come again
Rioter Comments
: I dont see a problem here, volibear was not building damages, but you were not building defense too.
>I dont see a problem here, volibear was not building defense, Yes he fucking was lmao. Cinderhulk and armor with tabis and a giants belt are defensive items
Mortismo (EUW)
: Why are you so afraid of posting on your main account? We all know you're silver either way
Baby, my main diamond account was Succubùs GF before it got banned. I also have the accounts Serpentine Queen and Lunar ArcS. Not afraid of shit honey. This game is linked to this account. Duh
5050BS (NA)
: I posted something similar the other day. downvoted to hell. We had GW and two stuns but there was ZERO ways to kill Voil in a fight because of his healing and Yummy support LITERALLY just the two of them would 2v5 the team and that was with a 22 kill Trist. Didnt matter she jumped away, he was ON HER like Drake on Milli
Yeah i never understood boards pre conceived notions of "Juggernauts can do no wrong!" It drives me nuts
Pyrosan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alluring Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9xgvfha6,comment-id=00020001,timestamp=2019-08-28T09:31:29.413+0000) > > Okay sure i guess around 85-90% is low. > https://imgur.com/JghKFOP You literally survived for 3 seconds in that clip, you are Evelynn one of the most base-HP and defence lacking champions also lol...
Well then be mad at death recap for saying 0.94. You're missing the point. An adc would die just the same, to someone with no offensive items and being able to build pure defensive
Moody P (NA)
: HMMMM, an assassin player is frustrated about champions that are well regarded as a strong counter to assassins? It makes perfect sense for a champion with high base damage to be scoring high on damage charts if hes fighting a lot. He is a damage threat by virtue of not dying quickly so his R can do heavy damage.
No im frustrated that a champion who doesnt build damage does the same burst as an assassin. If you read my post i quite literally said i dont care that he is able to counter me, i truly find it good when assassins have counterplay. However it's an issue to me that someone builds straight tank and is one shotting. He can do it to adcs and mages too lol
: Volibear can't deal 1234 damage in 0.94 s with that build, that's mechanically impossible unless you were already pretty low life and most of his damage came from his execute. And well, yeah, an execute will always burst if you're already low life. That has nothing to do with Juggernauts. Riven R does the same, Garen R, Lee Q, etc. Heck, your own Eve's R does the same. If your team does most of the damage and you just come in at the end with an execute, that doesn't mean your champ has burst. And no, Darius doesn't do the same. Darius has no execute, and to get big damage on his R, he needs to get 5 stacks, which takes at least 2 AAs or 2 Qs, so ~2-3 seconds at the minimum if he hits everything and you don't have anything at all to CC him.
>Volibear can't deal 1234 damage in 0.94 s with that build, that's mechanically impossible unless you were already pretty low life and most of his damage came from his execute. Okay sure i guess around 85-90% is low. https://imgur.com/JghKFOP
Pyrosan (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Alluring Touch,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9xgvfha6,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-28T08:42:52.117+0000) > > Okay then what about volibear? Anything to chime in on that or just white knighting that darius is good with ghost Volibear's damage is pretty easily predicted since he has to run at you with his Q for him to get his combo off, you can literally just walk in the other direction of Volibear to negate him killing you, if you step up too far you're dead and that's the general theme with most champions - except you're probably playing the wrong champions into volibear because he's like C tier at best lol
>Volibear's damage is pretty easily predicted since he has to run at you with his Q for him to get his combo off, Literally this means nothing in terms of why he does that much damage. It's basically saying "oh you know its coming" Just walk in the other direction where. This isnt a sion ult he can literally run in any direction you go in. >if you step up too far you're dead and that's the general theme with most champions A champion with no damage tiems has no business one shotting or doing over 1k damage at lv 10 in under a second. Like literally none of your argument makes sense. He's had a consistent 50% or over in the last 5 patches with a decent pick rate
Pyrosan (NA)
: Darius literally has to take ghost or he's unable to team fight without flash, period lol To say Darius is a mobile champion is probably the worst statement I've heard in years
Okay then what about volibear? Anything to chime in on that or just white knighting that darius is good with ghost
: >This is just one experience but im pretty sure darius falls under this category as well and not only does he do fuck tons of damage but hes also mobile as shit. You... Don't actually know a lot about Darius, do you? He is NOT mobile. Not even remotely. In fact that has consistently been his biggest weakness and it hurts him more than other juggernauts like Mordekaiser and Illaoi who just need to stand in the middle of the teamfight to generate value. Darius has to get into the middle AND still position properly with Q just to stay alive. The only time he starts doing "fuck tons of damage" in teamfights is if someone lets him get Noxian Might and he murders everyone who can't run away.
>You... Don't actually know a lot about Darius, do you? He is NOT mobile. Not even remotely. In fact that has consistently been his biggest weakness and it hurts him more than other juggernauts like Mordekaiser and Illaoi who just need to stand in the middle of the teamfight to generate value. Darius has to get into the middle AND still position properly with Q just to stay alive. The only time he starts doing "fuck tons of damage" in teamfights is if someone lets him get Noxian Might and he murders everyone who can't run away. I think the general consensus is that darius actually outruns most champs when he takes ghost lol... theres a reason why hes actually meta. He can build black cleaver into righteous with deadmans with ghost and run marathons.
Rioter Comments
: Champs over 1000 days w/o a new skin
Pretty sure cassio is in there too. her eternum in 2016. Also annie i think? her hextech skin was also in 2016
: An (long) Essay on Permabans - One size fits all policies don't work
Honestly ive had about two accounts permanently banned. But i do like your idea. If i had the opportunity to just be permanently chat restricted/ only in chat with who im grouped with. It would be nice. Frankly this kind of conversation is refreshing, unlike the esteemed nobles of player behavior who have never once flamed a single soul in league of legends and have never done wrong ever teehee ;) I think personally riot is focused far too much on "X person said a mean thing" and less on "X person is running it down" I kid you not my very first banned account was me telling someone to stop being a fucking crybaby and play the god damn game before they rage quit. (Guess who got punished, hint: it wasnt the rage quitter :)) Now this isnt to justify toxic behavior at all, its more of a breaking this notion that toxic players are SO RARE, everyone at one point has lost their cool in this game. Its competitive. People talk shit and personally if you're gonna be offended about something online you probably shouldn't be online. I think this system is pretty much fool proof to be honest.
: We basicly had perma chat restrictions with infinetly stacking ones. They led to more other forms of toxicity like trolling or inting which are harder to detect. Why would we bring something back that didnt work before?
And we still have people making new accounts to be JUST as toxic and inters still dont get punished lol

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