Rylalei (EUNE)
: Now that Akali will get another nerf
Are you actually trying to defend akali early game? WTF dude, i like assassins but holy shit akali early game is like giga busted right now, its the whole reason the champ is broken in high elo and competitive, she cannot lose like 99% of the lanes unless the akali player is bad. Her Q + passive trade pattern loses trades to basically 0 melee champs and she has shroud so you cant retaliate back unless you're playing like the 2~3 top/mids that have aoe dots as their main dmg (and those champs actually lose trades hard to Q AA spam).
: Buffing strong aspects of champ(early game in this case) isn't bad, especially when majority of current proplay botlanes are scaling ones(Kaisa, Xayah, Ez, Sivir, Corki even Varus and few others), might require Yasuo ban tho. Idk, sololane Lucian has 1% pr(top and mid combined) in soloQ, his only real good usage is as Kassadin counter.
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HsmzLxWe,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T17:01:49.459+0000) > > Buffing strong aspects of champ(early game in this case) isn't bad, especially when majority of current proplay botlanes are scaling ones(Kaisa, Xayah, Ez, Sivir, Corki even Varus and few others), might require Yasuo ban tho. > > Idk, sololane Lucian has 1% pr(top and mid combined) in soloQ, his only real good usage is as Kassadin counter. have you actually played the game in the last 2 patches or so? Or atleast watched a pro game? Corki is dead, ez and sivir both were nerfed out of the S tier aswell, adc in high elo/pro play right now is Xayah, Kaisa and Lucian, and then mages bot lane. Lucian is already one of the better adcs in the game right now, and then they go ahead and buff his already oppressive early game, its like they dont want other champs to be playable.
Zeyphel (NA)
: Why are we nerfing Aatrox?
Because hes currently overpowered, simple as that!
: "we don't want to create a game with hard counters"
Vayne is currently shit tier so idk why you are even complaining about her, nobody is playing vayne anymore in any half decent elo, even ezreal beats vayne in lane right now.
: PLEASE BUFF JG!
You gotta be joking, Jg needs nerfs, not buffs.
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: > [{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jAkOf5g3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-14T18:29:08.738+0000) > > Still love how it’s only a problem when it comes top lane. Adcs and supports have been complaining about her for months and have always been told we are just whining. :/ Idk your an adc main, so Karma for us is like an autofill picking Ezrael against you, you cant punish it, its extremely safe and boring to play against
> [{quoted}](name=AlterMordred,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=jAkOf5g3,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-14T18:34:34.019+0000) > > Idk your an adc main, so Karma for us is like an autofill picking Ezrael against you, you cant punish it, its extremely safe and boring to play against Ezreal with TP and yuumi, even worse when its BOTH in the same lane. Literal snooze fest, cant ever do anything to him and the fker will out spike you at 2~3 items.
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YBaKunt (NA)
: Armor is extremely under powered. Lethalty is OP.
Only on boards such a false thread could get upvoted. Lmao, imagine thinking that armor gets countered by lethality and not the other way around...
Eedat (NA)
: Idrc about Ez because he's sitting on a 47% winrate with the high pick rate but Kai'sa is at 50% with hers so I feel she's more of a problem
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hABEWepm,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-04T18:35:10.429+0000) > > Idrc about Ez because he's sitting on a 47% winrate with the high pick rate but Kai'sa is at 50% with hers so I feel she's more of a problem This is why you dont blind trust plat + win rates. Ezreal is quite literally the strongest adc in high elo (master +) and comp, ppl just suck at him in platinum (and also build wrong).
beemotes (NA)
: Make Mages Great Again
What are you talking about? Mages are currently the strongest class in the game.
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JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Why does pyke get another "your cut" on his ult?
Pyke is gigabusted right now, stupíd champ.
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Felbhu (NA)
: Pyke makes this game awful to play most of the time.
As someone who likes some assassins, pyke is cancer indeed. The problem is that he has too many traits that assassins should never have, aoe CC, safety, massive sustain, 0 setup aoe reset true damage execute, his kit is a mess.
: pykes excute has to be the worst designed excute in the game
Pyke is one of the worst designed champs lately. Whoever thought about giving an assassin those base damages + aoe hard cc + that ult is just not very good at their job.
: > [{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o9kA9zRo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-12T19:05:50.602+0000) > > Boards is like : > > DAMAGE CREEP ASSASSINS are too TANKY they can also 100-0 my 99999 armor tank WTF BUFF TANKS ARMOR IS SO BAD nerf assassins Tanks and TDPS aren't the ones complaining about assassins.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkdemon653,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o9kA9zRo,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-07-12T19:07:51.317+0000) > > Tanks and TDPS aren't the ones complaining about assassins. I wish, but just look at boards, its not what happens. There was a thread the other day about a tank main complaining that ASSASSINS WERE TOO TANKY, theres daily threads about armor being worthless and "zed one shot me with 3 lethality items and i was a 400 armor tank, tanks sooo weak". Its some next level shit here.
: And yet people will still stay lethality counters armor and needs to be nerfed.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=o9kA9zRo,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-12T11:26:28.903+0000) > > And yet people will still stay lethality counters armor and needs to be nerfed. Boards is like : DAMAGE CREEP ASSASSINS are too TANKY they can also 100-0 my 99999 armor tank WTF BUFF TANKS ARMOR IS SO BAD nerf assassins
Moody P (NA)
: Buff tank items
Kinda sad to see you giving in to the "tanks are worthless" mindless circlejerk, i thought you played bruisers. If tanks are broken that makes bruisers top unplayable btw, or did you forget already tanks rushing the OP 2900 gold sunfire (which is now 2700 btw) and then face smashing bruisers with their trinity that costed almost 1k gold more. Not even to mention the bramble vest/tabi first back which made you unable to trade for the rest of the laning phase as you'd just kill yourself trying.
: Riot's Notes on QSS & Mercurial changes in Patch 6.9
Oh counterplay, thats a terrible thing for boards favorites. Is it that time of the day to complain about assassins and ask for buffs for a 80% ban rate champion at all elos yet again?
: > [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NI42bdUA,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-11T16:33:23.138+0000) > > Would love to see your face when you find out that he is getting buff, very little one, but still buff. Actually, its quite a massive buff. It allows him to get even less poked through autos in the early game, which then allows him to focus more on CS and engaging.
> [{quoted}](name=IShowerWithUrDad,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=NI42bdUA,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-11T16:41:39.830+0000) > > Actually, its quite a massive buff. It allows him to get even less poked through autos in the early game, which then allows him to focus more on CS and engaging. Yes, fizz LOSING 2 points of DR per aa early game is a MASSIVE BUFF for his early laning... Wait what? Do you even read what you post or did you actually even read the changes? They nerfed its early game for some worthless scaling, its only better against like 2 or 3 champs in a game (and those champs dont even care as malz already takes a living crap on fizz anyway).
: > [{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gmd9ToId,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-11T16:05:00.952+0000) > > But morde is broken right now. > > I know GD will never admit it since everyone and their mother "mains" morde here but its facts. why is fizz getting a stronger passive when hes already sitting at a 53% wr if anything he should be nerfed
> [{quoted}](name=ZeroAgainst,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gmd9ToId,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-11T16:22:09.311+0000) > > why is fizz getting a stronger passive when hes already sitting at a 53% wr if anything he should be nerfed The fizz passive change is a nerf tho lol. His passive is completely worthless other than very early game against ranged AA harass and minion damage, and they are nerfing its base values for some measly 0.01% ap ratio, which literally wont fking matter as you need 900 ap to make it reach the OLD BASE VALUES at lvl 16. Its a shame, because what fizz needs is a revert/buffs to his old self, not trash changes like that.
Pika Fox (NA)
: Why nerf what isnt OP?
> [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Gmd9ToId,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-11T15:57:15.489+0000) > > Why nerf what isnt OP? But morde is broken right now. I know GD will never admit it since everyone and their mother "mains" morde here but its facts.
yıff (NA)
: nerf tank dmg sejuani and tahm and gragas doo too much damage for their tanky and mobility
> [{quoted}](name=ggplayer12,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0EU5WjGA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-10T17:27:33.195+0000) > > nerf tank dmg sejuani and tahm and gragas doo too much damage for their tanky and mobility Boards logic only work for the classes they dont play. Imagine thinking assassins are anywhere close to "OP" right now lmao.
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: My only problem with his rants are they are straight hypocritical. He screws up in lane constantly and then blames champion is too strong. He gets stomped by any top laner they are busted. I was straight laughing when he said Teemo is too OP and needs to be nerfed. The champions he directly counters(Auto attack champions) eventually ruins him and all it takes is time. Instead of snowballing the lane at 3 minutes it's at 8 - 10 mins. Hell even Nasus once he has 100 Stacks turns Teemo into a +12.
> [{quoted}](name=Xion The XIV,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WRlHNQxz,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-10T15:33:46.621+0000) > > My only problem with his rants are they are straight hypocritical. He screws up in lane constantly and then blames champion is too strong. He gets stomped by any top laner they are busted. I was straight laughing when he said Teemo is too OP and needs to be nerfed. The champions he directly counters(Auto attack champions) eventually ruins him and all it takes is time. Instead of snowballing the lane at 3 minutes it's at 8 - 10 mins. Hell even Nasus once he has 100 Stacks turns Teemo into a +12. I laughed so hard about him calling teemo OP while playing fucking aatrox, a champ that can actually 1v5.
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: I can't remember the last time I had fun laning top lol
Vayne top has a 48% wr with a 1% pick rate atm, its not good anymore. Stop it boards.
: Why are tanks the only role without a high impact item?
And whats stopping from bruisers also buying that item? It doesnt exist for a reason, when sunfire was basically that tanks were insanely broken.
: Reason why that is (or atleast what I think it is)... * There's almost no strong presence for tanks in teamfights. With so much high damage, true damage and general high penetration in the game it's hard for them to front line, not to mention almost everyone is running with tons of CDR allowing everyone to just spam spells without the thought of being punished for missing. * Critical Strike Items are busted again, I don't care that Infinity Edge doesn't increase Crit Damage to 250% and only 225% now. With this additional damage to Crits they can get away with not buying Armor Pen. Crit Items are also busted in the sense that they will always have higher DPS than those who build heavy Attack Speed alongside On-Hit items, not to mention Crit Damage benefits from Lifesteal whereas On-Hit damage doesn't so therefore Crit Marksman will always have the upper hand in both DPS and Survivability against those who don't really build into Crit properly and build On-Hit items instead (aka: Varus, Kog'Maw, maybe even Kalista). Overall, nerf Crit Items would be my suggestion. Every Marksman who is a Crit User is statistically doing really well, as those who aren't happen to be in the worst place. Best case scenario they are meant to be late game hyper carries, so they could at least make IE bonus damage on Crits scale with level as the game progresses.
> [{quoted}](name=Darkin Hybrid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-07-08T17:12:49.743+0000) > > Reason why that is (or atleast what I think it is)... > > * There's almost no strong presence for tanks in teamfights. With so much high damage, true damage and general high penetration in the game it's hard for them to front line, not to mention almost everyone is running with tons of CDR allowing everyone to just spam spells without the thought of being punished for missing. > > * Critical Strike Items are busted again, I don't care that Infinity Edge doesn't increase Crit Damage to 250% and only 225% now. With this additional damage to Crits they can get away with not buying Armor Pen. Crit Items are also busted in the sense that they will always have higher DPS than those who build heavy Attack Speed alongside On-Hit items, not to mention Crit Damage benefits from Lifesteal whereas On-Hit damage doesn't so therefore Crit Marksman will always have the upper hand in both DPS and Survivability against those who don't really build into Crit properly and build On-Hit items instead (aka: Varus, Kog'Maw, maybe even Kalista). > > Overall, nerf Crit Items would be my suggestion. Every Marksman who is a Crit User is statistically doing really well, as those who aren't happen to be in the worst place. > > Best case scenario they are meant to be late game hyper carries, so they could at least make IE bonus damage on Crits scale with level as the game progresses. Nerf crit items, so we can go back to mages Also going on the "adc role" and tanks still being unplayed, beause void staff shits on every single MR item in the game. Did ppl play tanks on 8.11 (when nobody was playing adcs)? Nope? Oh. Flawless logic yet again boards, but here we cant admit that maybe, just maybe, MAGES are the problem.
: Sad truth is despite all of those things, adcs can still out damage mages, even when the tank focuses on building armor and the adc neglects lord dom.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=00050000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:35:12.469+0000) > > Sad truth is despite all of those things, adcs can still out damage mages, even when the tank focuses on building armor and the adc neglects lord dom. Mages are literally the strongest class in the game, wtf are you talking about? Holy shit boards.
Moody P (NA)
: No, the game has been balanced around armor eventually being countered by penetration. If we are at a point where ADCs don't need it to punch through durable targets then there's clearly a problem.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:27:08.934+0000) > > No, the game has been balanced around armor eventually being countered by penetration. If we are at a point where ADCs don't need it to punch through durable targets then there's clearly a problem. Alright then, but lets not complain when bruisers are unplayable top (bruisers cannot build arpen outside of BC) because only adcs WITH LW can kill them after 1~2 items.
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: Whatever you are talking about must still be on paper, Im just repeating events that happened in game. I already know voidstaff is strong, you are just helping my point.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=000500000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:23:33.959+0000) > > Whatever you are talking about must still be on paper, Im just repeating events that happened in game. > > > I already know voidstaff is strong, you are just helping my point. MR itemization is much worse than armor. Void staff is 10 times better than the arpen options (other than maybe black cleaver). Thanks to the cdr creep every mage nowdays can do decent DPS and lost chapter/ludens solves any kind of mana issues. Result of all of the above = Mages can easily dps/shred tanks down with no issue, while being safer than adcs thanks to their range and CC.
: I still have Vietnam flashbacks where the enemy mages who have voidstaff get VASTLY out damaged by the adc despite me having {{item:3047}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3110}} and only {{item:3065}} as my mr item. While the mages had {{item:3135}} And the adc ({{champion:18}}) didn't have lord dominiks...not even full crit yet.. (all of her damage still came from basic attacking) No, im not joking....I know mages arnt supposed to do a lot to tanks but this is best case scenario for them to hurt me more than the adc and it disgusts me that none of these factors matter. And the lack of adcs needing to build armor penetration has been a thing for 2 seasons ATLEAST.
> [{quoted}](name=Tahminatrix ,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:19:19.659+0000) > > I still have Vietnam flashbacks where the enemy mages who have voidstaff get VASTLY out damaged by the adc despite me having {{item:3047}} {{item:3143}} {{item:3110}} and only {{item:3065}} as my mr item. > > While the mages had {{item:3135}} > > And the adc ({{champion:18}}) didn't have lord dominiks...not even full crit yet.. (all of her damage still came from basic attacking) > > > > No, im not joking....I know mages arnt supposed to do a lot to tanks but this is best case scenario for them to hurt me more than the adc and it disgusts me that none of these factors matter. Void staff is around 20 times better than the LW items, and so is the mage itemization for the most part. So idk what you're talking about, tanks get destroyed by mages with void staff much harder than by bruisers with conqueror or adcs (and adcs are supposed to kill tanks).
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/29 half of the time twitch doesn't build blade miss fortune stopped building it https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/81 same for ezreal >on hit adc yea sure, I mean it's like saying that jax is going to build trinity force, I would expect on hit adc to build on hit but adcs who aren't depending on on hit are not building it caitlyn is not building it, and you can see that in those player profile they don't build it in late game on caitlyn , they don't even build armor pen, just selling boots to get an other zeal item and they still win
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:18:55.843+0000) > > https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/29 > > half of the time twitch doesn't build blade > miss fortune stopped building it > > https://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/81 > > same for ezreal > > yea sure, I mean it's like saying that jax is going to build trinity force, I would expect on hit adc to build on hit > > but adcs who aren't depending on on hit are not building it > > caitlyn is not building it, and you can see that in those player profile they don't build it in late game on caitlyn > sell boots to get an other zeal item > and they still win Caitlyn builds like that because she simply hits the squishies with her range (+ rfc), so she doesnt need LW, because if she had to kill multiple frontlines with armor she would probably lose anyway as shes the worst adc vs tanks other than jhin.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: >And idk what you're talking about tbh, of course full build adcs will kill tanks no matter what, even without LW items, thats literally their job if they do, this proves to me that tanks are garbage right now
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MAgU5oOj,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-07-08T16:15:33.812+0000) > > if they do, this proves to me that tanks are garbage right now Read my edit. If tanks are on that state, it means no other class can even scratch them, which means we are back to every role but adc and maybe mid picking tanks. And can we stop with the false narative that tanks are somehow garbage, one of the best top laners right now is a tank (TK), the best jungler 1 patch ago was a tank (sejuani) and support in pro play before lux became meta was literally domianted by tanks only (braum, nautlius, thresh, etc etc). So no boards, tanks are not "dead", and even when they are broken ppl dont play them as much in solo queue because they are BORING, and because by nature they cannot hard carry a game (but they can very well keep their lane opponent from carrying).
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: No ADC is building armor penetration, why is this not talked about?
Because LW items are really bad outside of mortal reminder vs healing champs (and its not even being bought by the arpen). And idk what you're talking about tbh, of course full build adcs will kill tanks no matter what, even without LW items, thats literally their job, if adcs (the highest scaling dps class) need LDR to kill tanks late game it means literally no other class can even come close to killing them, and we do not want tanks to be this broken again.
: So? Lane isn't the entire game. There are champions that inherently win lane unless they play like idiots, and there's nothing you can do about that. It's called "winning the rest of the goddamned game". Losing lane to a champion that falls off a cliff doesn't really mean shit since you just win later on anyways.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EIEtoFYI,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-07-06T01:05:50.712+0000) > > So? Lane isn't the entire game. There are champions that inherently win lane unless they play like idiots, and there's nothing you can do about that. > > It's called "winning the rest of the goddamned game". Losing lane to a champion that falls off a cliff doesn't really mean shit since you just win later on anyways. TF blade lost the game aswell. Turns out that when you play against a brick wall that you cannot snowball against it means you wont be able to carry the game.
Cocho (NA)
: can you link the VOD? I wanna watch it lol
> [{quoted}](name=Cocho,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EIEtoFYI,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-05T22:34:22.745+0000) > > can you link the VOD? I wanna watch it lol https://www.twitch.tv/videos/448566641 Starts at around 3:40:00.
: op.gg please? im putting on my skepticals
> [{quoted}](name=FOR JUSTICE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EIEtoFYI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-07-05T19:17:29.887+0000) > > op.gg please? im putting on my skepticals Go into his stream right now and look up the vod, he lost the game vs the TK as trynd in silver 4.
: It's tough to say what toplane needs
Junglers do need nerfs tho.
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: {{champion:29}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:104}} in jungle {{champion:42}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:222}} in mid {{champion:133}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:67}} have been top {{champion:22}} {{champion:21}} were both played support for a bit there too Yeah, its not even close to the diversity that Mages and Fighters can go, but its not zero. EDIT: {{champion:236}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}} are all played outside of bot ADC as well
> [{quoted}](name=Paletongue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=EjFrjOEw,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-06-27T19:25:46.148+0000) > > {{champion:29}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:104}} in jungle > {{champion:42}} {{champion:110}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:222}} in mid > {{champion:133}} {{champion:236}} {{champion:67}} have been top > {{champion:22}} {{champion:21}} were both played support for a bit there too > > Yeah, its not even close to the diversity that Mages and Fighters can go, but its not zero. > > EDIT: {{champion:236}} {{champion:202}} {{champion:145}} are all played outside of bot ADC as well Stopped reading at jinx mid. Jesus guys, just because you see this shit in your silver elo it doesnt mean its a VIABLE thing. I can play support fizz in silver too but it doesnt mean that fizz is a viable support.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: Boards: "I want champion diversity...
the whole "dirvesity" thing sucks. Adc/bot lane players dont want mages on their lane, top lane bruiser players dont want mages on their lane, assassin mid players dont want tanks on their lane ppl that actually main the roles dont want mages literally every where when they can be already be played mid AND support while classes like bruisers and adcs mostly only have 1 lane to go (and if they get outclassed on their own lane it means they are out of the game).
: lol why does aatrox heal for 400 with grevious wounds applied???
Only 400? Ive seen an aatrox healing for 1000 on a passive hit, GW is actually kind of weak right now with how much sustain those sustain monsters have.
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