: She is good. But not broken
> [{quoted}](name=letsfeedtogether,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lF2VyNOp,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-10-22T16:14:59.774+0000) > > She is good. But not broken Shes just kinda bad for solo queue becaushe she cannot solo carry at all, shes basically a support adc. Basically if you play ashe and ur team is bad you auto lose.
: Ashe nerfs when?
Ashe is not that good because she dies to every single meta solo/jg right now.
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Bread Pit (EUW)
: Can you make Janna's Shield give Adaptive Power instead of just AD?
No. janna doesnt need buffs and mages laning with janna also dont need buffs. NO.
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: Lol, imagine thinking gp is good rn
> [{quoted}](name=Tr4shB4NSYST3M,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=geQzEj7f,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-10-18T04:27:32.166+0000) > > Lol, imagine thinking gp is good rn U right, pros dont play good champs they are just picking GP for fun on the biggest and most important LoL tournament of the year! My bad!
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: As a jungler, I frequently see your type. You think you know what a "good" jungler is. Let me guess, "good" junglers are knights in shining armor, who hold your hand all day, and tell you that everything will be all right, especially since they also win your lane for you. And any jungler who farms is "bad". Mmmhmm. So you flame the "bad" jungler who is farming. No, that's not enough! Not enough at all. Can't stop with just flaming them. How dare they farm, when you need hand holding! So you go steal their krugs. And oh look, they're on the skuttle, and their smite isn't up (you TABBED just to make sure). So dash over to the river and steal the skuttle right out from under them. Yep. For sure, that'll teach them a lesson not to farm when they ought to be holding your hand. And next thing you know, your jungler is so pissed, he comes to your lane, pings for you to engage, and then walks away to let you die, while flashing his mastery symbol. And now you're convinced that you had the bad jungler.
> [{quoted}](name=PENTECOSTAL,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=yY6NWsMm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-17T21:03:32.372+0000) > > As a jungler, I frequently see your type. You think you know what a "good" jungler is. Let me guess, "good" junglers are knights in shining armor, who hold your hand all day, and tell you that everything will be all right, especially since they also win your lane for you. And any jungler who farms is "bad". Mmmhmm. So you flame the "bad" jungler who is farming. No, that's not enough! Not enough at all. Can't stop with just flaming them. How dare they farm, when you need hand holding! So you go steal their krugs. And oh look, they're on the skuttle, and their smite isn't up (you TABBED just to make sure). So dash over to the river and steal the skuttle right out from under them. Yep. For sure, that'll teach them a lesson not to farm when they ought to be holding your hand. And next thing you know, your jungler is so pissed, he comes to your lane, pings for you to engage, and then walks away to let you die, while flashing his mastery symbol. And now you're convinced that you had the bad jungler. I have no idea what you're talking about. Good jungler = ganks lanes, creates pressure and doesnt int lanes. Bad jungler = the opposite of the above If you're farming over ganking you're literally playing the game wrong, and if the other jungler is playing correctly you'll cause your team to lose the game in 10~15 minutes singlehandedly. Its simple as that, riot dumbed down the role a lot so its very easy to see when you have a good or a bad jungler.
: Alcoves top lane, just so that ranged champion kite melee champion better LOL.
Your logic makes no sense btw, its also another route for ranged tops to be ganked or flanked. The map change is neutral, it dosent help or hinder any class of champs, it only helps junglers who now have a new route to gank/camp top/bot lanes.
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Zeyphel (NA)
: Do you realize that you will be ganked more often now that jungle camps exp are even more meaningless? Now you can freely say that you won't be able to 1 vs 1 in top lane.
> [{quoted}](name=Zeyphel,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WKm9lXFm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-16T17:25:53.673+0000) > > Do you realize that you will be ganked more often now that jungle camps exp are even more meaningless? Now you can freely say that you won't be able to 1 vs 1 in top lane. If they do that with less exp then they are goign to be lvl 6~7 while im 10, i can easily 1v2 double kill if im ahead at that point. As it should be.
Speeedy (NA)
: Preseason: ADC Questions
Yes adcs got shafted. Which is kinda of lame because i dont feel like jungle is getting nerfed hard enough, they should have shafted junglers not adcs, junglers have domianted the game for far too long.
: Every time Riot nerfs jungle XP less junglers are viable/ chain ganking increases.
I dont think jungle players can understand but they cant simply buff the strongest role in the game. Thats why its being nerfed right now, because it needs nerfs, not buffs. If they reduce the spawn timers jungle would still perma gank but now they would do it while being same level or above as solos (exactly what happened 1 or 2 years ago), basically completely overpowered.
: Revert Shaco to 9.19 state
Agreed shaco should have never been buffed.
Rioter Comments
: Uh.. better jng was never about XP gains, its about obj and ganks, in which S10 is influencing this to happen MORE specially with the DRAGONS being such a HUGE impact on the game now.
> [{quoted}](name=Pumpedhero,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lAPFEogn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-16T16:34:34.759+0000) > > Uh.. better jng was never about XP gains, its about obj and ganks, in which S10 is influencing this to happen MORE specially with the DRAGONS being such a HUGE impact on the game now. I just want to be able to 1v2 double kill as top without having to play stupid shit like renekton. I remember back then if you got ahead you could easily 1v2 double as most top laners since junglers werent automatically ahead of you just by existing, you could also invade their jungle solo and bully the other jungler with a 2~3 level lead. Heres hoping the exp changes will be enough for this to be viable again, maybe now as a top laner i can actually do something about pre 6 eve and bully her out of the jungle, you know like the supposed counterplay some junglers are supposed to have.
Saezio (EUNE)
: If that was the reason, they could simply nerf the initial clear XP and buff the next spawns XP. They are making REALLY certain junglers can't be anywhere near the mid/top level at say 20 mins. A jungler already hits 6 substantially later than solo lanes so, IDK are they trying to make JG have the same XP as duo lane? Cause, if that's the case that's pretty fucked up
> [{quoted}](name=Saezio,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=LQAEEnFx,comment-id=0002000100010000,timestamp=2019-10-16T14:21:58.623+0000) > > If that was the reason, they could simply nerf the initial clear XP and buff the next spawns XP. > > They are making REALLY certain junglers can't be anywhere near the mid/top level at say 20 mins. > > A jungler already hits 6 substantially later than solo lanes so, IDK are they trying to make JG have the same XP as duo lane? Cause, if that's the case that's pretty fucked up Jungle is supposed to have same exp as bot lane and less gold. Just because it was horribly broken and you could actually get even stronger/out level solos in the last few years it doesnt mean it was fine and balanced. Jungle is just going back to its normal and balanced, the role that roams the map should be the weakest 1v1/indivually (just the fact shit like kha zix was 1v1ing solo lanes early on was completely broken).
macspam (NA)
: Why is further reducing jungle XP a good thing?
Lets put it this way : How is nerfing an overpowered role a bad thing?
: Nerfing Jungle Experience... Again
Good, enough of this jungle meta let top/mid have their time.
Rioter Comments
: Bring Us Your Bugs!! Celebrating 10 Years of LoL
Theres still a bug ever since the start of the year where champions with odyssey borders cant see their ranked borders in the loading screen in normal games. Im not sure why, but even with the ranked armor enabled the ranked border will not show up in loading screen if im playing jinx, sona, yasuo (basically the champs with odyssey skins/borders for some reason). It should be something easy to fix.
: buff jungle xp, blue-wolves-gromp dont give you lvl 3 and take a bit to clear/Yi feedback :C
: Garen has currently a 55.92 win rate mid and a 55.50% win rate top
But bruh diamond players dont know how to play l2p garen is obviously the most balanced champ in the game. -boards ciclejerk
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: I'd trade a Garen nerf for a Jax nerf anytime
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Juice (EUNE)
: Low elo just cries about anything that beats them, remember they cried that Nasus is the single most broken thing in existence after his minor buffs?
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mWcG2j8H,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-14T18:21:28.790+0000) > > Low elo just cries about anything that beats them, remember they cried that Nasus is the single most broken thing in existence after his minor buffs? Garen, the low elo champ that has a 54% wr in diamond + solo queue. The low elo champion that is played in competitive/worlds in the bot lane with yuumi. What a weak and non viable champion in high level!
Juice (EUNE)
: If you spent half the time that you spend crying about Garen on forums practicing the game you'd see that he is useless, sluggish melee champion with plenty of counterplay.
> [{quoted}](name=Juice,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=mWcG2j8H,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-14T18:20:34.170+0000) > > If you spent half the time that you spend crying about Garen on forums practicing the game you'd see that he is useless, sluggish melee champion with plenty of counterplay. Its stats, you cant argue against stats. But then again, boards also defended the 56% wr morde before hotfix, so im not surprised here. Boards love those 0 skill juggernauts for some reason.
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Neriticc (EUW)
: Tristana picked in 3 lanes at worlds, won't get nerfed because ADC champion
Solo lane tristana has a 47% wr in solo queue and a low pick rate. Garen on the other hand has a 54% wr and is the highest pick rate top laner of the patch. Garen needs nerfs much more than tristana does.
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: Give guardian angel 10% CDR
Instead of powercreeping the game even further, just nerf mage items, they are broken as fk.
JackMcCarry (EUNE)
: What is this myth? Is Yasuo easy to kite aswell outside of lane because he can only dash in melee range? You think he jumped in winrate by 3.5% and had his playrate trippled! by accident?
> [{quoted}](name=JackMcCarry,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=9rkrwI8G,comment-id=00000004,timestamp=2019-10-11T15:36:34.078+0000) > > What is this myth? > Is Yasuo easy to kite aswell outside of lane because he can only dash in melee range? > > You think he jumped in winrate by 3.5% and had his playrate trippled! by accident? You see, garen players just trained in the hyperbolic time chamber and got this much better overnight. Totally not the champion being overpowered.
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: October 11
Meddler, do you have any plans to make adcs a bit better in lane while nerfing supports? Bot lane power level wise is fine, but currently supports hold too much of the share while adcs hold too little (unless you're playing xayah, as you see in pros if it wasant for her bot lane would be mage vs mage every game). As it is bot lane is unplayable without a duo because supports have too much influence over the laning phase, what im saying is that we need solo queue focused adc buffs and support nerfs.
: Wrong u silvers and bronze players. GAREN is a Jaggernaut and he is not supposed to lose in 1v1. Irelia beats Garen early and Jax beats him later on. Try to learn the game. And he has no counterplay? He just runs at u , there's 50000 things u can do
> [{quoted}](name=DEMACIAA BABY,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ZqmJmRuR,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-11T15:50:42.218+0000) > > Wrong u silvers and bronze players. GAREN is a Jaggernaut and he is not supposed to lose in 1v1. > > Irelia beats Garen early and Jax beats him later on. Try to learn the game. And he has no counterplay? He just runs at u , there's 50000 things u can do Irelia beats garen early? Have you actually played in this patch? Maybe if the garen is playing without his hands or his monitor turned on, what the hell. From lvl 2 and on garen can remove irelia health bar if she ever walks up to Q a minion or try to do anything, you can perma zone her without items.
: Read the Jaggernaut class. They're not meant to be defeated in 1v1, they are kited. Same goes for Illaoi and Darius, u don't fight those unless ur a 1v1 champion bruiser like tryndamere fiora or Jax
> [{quoted}](name=DEMACIAA BABY,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=tEQ8n1wj,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-11T16:11:19.926+0000) > > Read the Jaggernaut class. They're not meant to be defeated in 1v1, they are kited. > > Same goes for Illaoi and Darius, u don't fight those unless ur a 1v1 champion bruiser like tryndamere fiora or Jax Both illaoi and darius have skillshots/spells that can be dodged and played around. So if i pick a melee with some mobility i CAN try to do something against them, they are still favored but its not completely hopeless, if i manage to dodge darius Q and E and i either kill him before he get to 5 stacks im favored in the fight, just like im also favored vs illaoi if i fight her away from her tentacles and dodge her Q/E. This is not even mentioning on how garen is also probably the tankiest champ of his class (neither darius or illaoi have defensive steroids, only their missing hp heal) so his damage has no business being this high. Now outside of garen literally Qing a minion by a mistake you cannot avoid his whole kit. Garen should never ever be as strong as he is now because he is a complete statcheck champ, being a "juggernaut" is not a free pass to being overpowered.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Anime Fizz,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H6esE1Yv,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T16:05:55.971+0000) > > I guess master+ tier players need to get good because garen is sitting at a casual 55% wr there and rising atm. im talking about Shaco, just get yourself a brain off of gumtree and get back to me when you're able to actually play around a champion you know has good ganks.
> [{quoted}](name=SnackerMore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H6esE1Yv,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T16:11:21.067+0000) > > im talking about Shaco, just get yourself a brain off of gumtree and get back to me when you're able to actually play around a champion you know has good ganks. "just dont play the game if the other team picks shaco" "I main him btw hehe xd"
: Thank you Riot AzuBK, I am rejoicing right now
Totally what we needed, another early game stealth champion made into S tier/overpowered. Because just khazix and pyke wasant enough of permabans!
: rofl git gud.
> [{quoted}](name=SnackerMore,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=H6esE1Yv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-10T16:04:49.349+0000) > > rofl git gud. I guess master+ tier players need to get good because garen is sitting at a casual 55% wr there and rising atm.
8Belthazor8 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Summoner SpeII,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kYpr8fqp,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-10T15:41:08.382+0000) > > he was unplayable in the elo i play at until the buff, imo he lost to literally every match up top lane except irelia, even riven beat the shit out of him 9.17: 52.57% 9.18: 52.63% 9.19: 52.2% "Unplayable"
> [{quoted}](name=8Belthazor8,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=kYpr8fqp,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-10-10T15:56:24.975+0000) > > 9.17: 52.57% > 9.18: 52.63% > 9.19: 52.2% > > "Unplayable" Didnt you know? Not mindblowingly ovepowered = unplayable for boards. Now that hes stupidly overpowered hes "fine", just like the 56% wr morde before the hotfix nerfs was "fine".
Rioter Comments
: "He isnt overtuned"
Holy shit boards actually defending the monstruosity that is garen right now Lol, just Lol. But then again, the same ppl also defended the 56% wr mordekaiser.
Moody P (NA)
: I'm fine with it. Its very interesting how the original enchanter support designs are far and away the most toxic but I'm glad riot is now keeping them mediocre so the rest of us can have fun
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=otzHvxuh,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-08T16:31:22.947+0000) > > I'm fine with it. > > Its very interesting how the original enchanter support designs are far and away the most toxic but I'm glad riot is now keeping them mediocre so the rest of us can have fun Im not a fan because with how much damage is in the game right now it means they hit 1 spell and you die in a CC duration. Not to mention how its impossible to play melees vs thresh.
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: How did they make it that only your opponents get the broken stuff but you still have a chance of getting bad champs? I don't quite understand that part of this post.
> [{quoted}](name=Cronofuge,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E0ZdgPqE,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-09-27T01:02:03.075+0000) > > How did they make it that only your opponents get the broken stuff but you still have a chance of getting bad champs? I don't quite understand that part of this post. The point is that the other team can still have the stacked team and you are probably going to get something that is bad/you dont want to play. Then it becomes a terrible experience, like say you like X champ, but you own like over 100 champs so how many arurfs you're going to have to endure to get 1 game in with your fav champ? And all of this does not solve the "broken team wins" because that still happens all the time just being up to RNG now (even worse). And yes you're still going to see the op champs very often, ppl will always roll for them, dodge games when they get bad champs. ARURF is trash for those reasons, normal urf was much better because you could ACTUALLY PLAY WHAT YOU WANTED TO with no bullshit, "But the tryhards omg" they would win a bit and get matched with other tryhards (thanks to mmr in the queue) while the 4fun ad crit singed casuals would be matched with other 4fun players.
: %pen items are too good.
LW items arent that great (only very few champs can build Mortal reminder situationally, while LDR is literally never bought and mortal is bought for the healing reduc not even the pen), but void yes is one of the most OP items in the game, even more so when you combine it with the other broken mage items.
: One big problem with Ivern's changes on the PBE
Today i learned giving a champion 350 aa range is a "QoL" buff. Lets give caitlyn such "QoL" buff aswell, why not darius too? It basically gives them no power as its QoL!!!!
: Let's Talk Hook Supports
Blitz was the only hook supp that wasant overpowered, until the last patch hit now hes one of the strongest. I do agree all hook sups need some hard nerfs, they are broken.
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