DapaSquid (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEBHiqe2,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-01T20:22:44.668+0000) > > But he is complaining abour normals? Ranked will always be more serious than normals, even in silver, not much, but still... Ranked more serious than normal? YeH, tell that to the griefers who know that ranked is the place to get some real rage from their victims.
> [{quoted}](name=DapaSquid,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xEBHiqe2,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-02T10:33:56.541+0000) > > Ranked more serious than normal? > YeH, tell that to the griefers who know that ranked is the place to get some real rage from their victims. People usually gried in ranked when theyre tilted. People just... always grief in normals, for no reason. Ive literally not played a fun normals game in years. My last normal i played, 2/5 of my team flashed in the fountain for the luls, then started spamming everyone elses flashes telling us to do it to.
: Core issues within the current game that need to be addressed.
Midbeast did a rly good video on the games problems. Unfortunately tho riot hasnt shown any interest on polishing their content out in... years. Their philosiphy seems to be just keep adding new content while the old remains broke, and hope people will be 2 distracted to care.
: how do you climb? (honestly)
In your average game youre underperforming, and in many of the games you obviously griefed. But ur focusing on the handful of games in your history where u actually did well in but lost? Youre playing in an elo where people know little to nothing about the game. If you want to climb... simplu learn the game and it will put you at a significant advantage. Snowballing in bronze/silv is trivial, especially from top, so stop making excuses.
: Riot can u give us winrate of autofill role ?
Do u just grief when u get support? 0.o its reeaaallly not that compicated.
: Riot deleting every post they dont like XDDD
How the fuck is this getting upvoted by anyone? Who actually thinks more trolls would make this game more fun? 0.0 This guys literally advocating direct trolling... basically every single game (because majority of games have at least one autofill) and then crying that the boards take down his post? Riot boards cant be taken seriously because of this shit right here.
: Silver 1 + Platinum 1 players in the same solo Q ranked games
That was literally her first lose. Chances are pretty good someone else was playing the placements, because they just 1v9'd as zilean, then she goes cait randomly and ints. Regardless if you win 100% of placements you're in high gold low plat mmr, which is what that game was.
Teh Song (NA)
: Firstly because dodging is among the worst things you can do. If somebody does something you feel is dodge worthy; mute them, play the match, and report them after. Doesn't matter what it is they did. You are worse for dodging than they'll ever be for wanting to try something you didn't like. Secondly because if people want to try nonstandard things they should have every ability to do so. Riot should never do anything that in any way pushes a meta or playstyle on anyone. That doesn't mean everything needs to work, but it does mean everything needs to be allowed. On that token, not only should they do nothing like what your asking for, but those early game jungle items (Hunters machete and that other one) shouldn't need smite to be built.
> [{quoted}](name=Teh Song,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Aqhn8scd,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-16T10:40:56.298+0000) > > Firstly because dodging is among the worst things you can do. > If somebody does something you feel is dodge worthy; mute them, play the match, and report them after. > Doesn't matter what it is they did. > You are worse for dodging than they'll ever be for wanting to try something you didn't like. > > Secondly because if people want to try nonstandard things they should have every ability to do so. Riot should never do anything that in any way pushes a meta or playstyle on anyone. > That doesn't mean everything needs to work, but it does mean everything needs to be allowed. > > On that token, not only should they do nothing like what your asking for, but those early game jungle items (Hunters machete and that other one) shouldn't need smite to be built. You are legit everything wrong with league of legends.
Xavanic (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F4ztpt1j,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T00:35:20.919+0000) > > Ok, so the problem is that she is too easy to snowball with then is what you are saying, how is that any different then any other snowball champion especially ones with easier kits at that? > > Edit: what kind of win rate and stat line should these champions have then? win rate doesn't mean anything on a champs performance, look at sylas, he is legitmately op rn, being a melee mage capable of outdueling darius and other powerful combatants and his winrate is what...45%? riven is super easy to snowball/win lane with, but as the game progresses you start to actually need the skill to use her properly, plus she needs to know how to use this advantage to close out the game before she loses her lead due to her falling off since everyone and their mother has hard CC now a days, this is where she falls flat in lower elo, players in low elo suck at closing out games, this is her problem, pantheon is similar in this case, as in iron bronze and silver, his winrate is rather low, but once you hit gold, it's 50% (most bursty melee champs fall of late game due to the sheer amount of CC in this game now a days)
> [{quoted}](name=Xavanic,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=F4ztpt1j,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-16T00:56:12.504+0000) > > win rate doesn't mean anything on a champs performance, look at sylas, he is legitmately op rn, being a melee mage capable of outdueling darius and other powerful combatants and his winrate is what...45%? riven is super easy to snowball/win lane with, but as the game progresses you start to actually need the skill to use her properly, plus she needs to know how to use this advantage to close out the game before she loses her lead due to her falling off since everyone and their mother has hard CC now a days, this is where she falls flat in lower elo, players in low elo suck at closing out games, this is her problem, pantheon is similar in this case, as in iron bronze and silver, his winrate is rather low, but once you hit gold, it's 50% (most bursty melee champs fall of late game due to the sheer amount of CC in this game now a days) Couldnt read past u calling sylas op without laughing my ass off. Seriously if u think sylas is op right now, wtf makes u think uve the game knowledge to analyze champions strengths?
Arkon567 (NA)
: Fixing leavers in games, The Hero Program
Would be a good idea if there was a way to find said honorable person, who just happens to play that exact champ and role at that exact level in a reasonable amount of time. Most likely itd just end up creating a matchmaking nightmare, and either game would be smurfed on or inted depending on who it brought in.
: Is ghosting bannable?
Why would riot do anything about that.... Id youre openly broadcasting ur game, riot isnt going to police people watching it. Its got nothing to do with them.
Sporky (NA)
: Hard Stuck in Silver 1
Your op.gg doesnt show u as having hit plat for a very long time. Youre playing alot of random shit and almost never doing well. I'd say ur just in ur elo. Silv/gold is a meme elo, if ur playing well you should lose very few games.
MaFyO2154 (EUW)
: the game would be less toxic if the game would be more enjoyable
I feel like everyone that plays this game alot feels this. But riot wants games faster so its tournaments are easier to watch.
: I understand the frustration and I felt like that back then but honestly if you are hard stuck it's because that is the elo you belong in. If you cant make an impact large enough to help carry the game then you need to improve on the mistakes that you make. I dont mean to offend you but that is what i had to realize in myself back then in order to improve, definitely take a break off ranked and also try switching up ur role or champion to get a fresh start.
> [{quoted}](name=PeepoMonKa,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EnukEGpm,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-07-09T17:14:11.270+0000) > > I understand the frustration and I felt like that back then but honestly if you are hard stuck it's because that is the elo you belong in. If you cant make an impact large enough to help carry the game then you need to improve on the mistakes that you make. > > I dont mean to offend you but that is what i had to realize in myself back then in order to improve, definitely take a break off ranked and also try switching up ur role or champion to get a fresh start. I have accounts that went to diamond mmr before i started losing games, but this one got "hardstuck" once i hit low plat. Problem being that p4 is particularly dice rolly because most of its inhabitants have 0 intention of continueing to climb and start playing random shit that theyre basically soft inting on. I find if i break through the low plat mmr area quickly, its smooth sailing until d4 mmr. But if i lose a couple games and my mmr gets tied up in the area, theres nothing i can do but grind games till i get lucky and get to high plat where games become legitimate again. Usually i just say fk it and swap to another smurf till they end up stuck in one of the 4th divisions. The elo safety net system is a cancer on this game. Only place i dont feel it is g4, because i can actually 1v5 those.
: Dead Game BTW
Its good for spectating, i dont understand ur point unless you somehow think thst translates to being a popular game. Lots of streamers have said games become more fun to watch, but shit to play. Result of their focus on making game pace faster so lcs matches would be more interesting.
: PSA to all ADCS out there
Only reason to even build a maw right now is if you need the cdr. For an adc wits end is def the way to go for mr.
: I can't remember the last time I had fun laning top lol
So why play top lane then? Its not like it JUST became like that, its always had a very strong rock paper scissors element to it being the long lane. I kinda think now is the best time for top laners since games dont go past 30 without trolling involved, and that is perfect for playing around a winning top laners power spikes.
: Why not, now hear me out on this... just get better.
> [{quoted}](name=nLyHorace,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RwJ29493,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-07-08T19:46:29.282+0000) > > Why not, now hear me out on this... just get better. How did u come up with such a strategy? It is legit too high a level for me to even fully wrap my brain around...
: It's very rare that i leave my games but sometimes it extremely justified.
If i felt like there was any chance in hell riot was going to punish the people ruining the game if i kept playing, then i'd be all about following their "rules". But ya, since i know the griefers are just gonna be written off as "having a bad game" theres nothin morally binding me to sit there playing a video game thats giving me no enjoyment.
IttanMomen (EUNE)
: Can we *** nerf yasuo ? because it's so fking frustrating to play vs him !!!!
How are people still unironically making these kinds of posts without feeling foolish?
: Chat Restriction??? Just look
If u dont play a ton of yas, going yas adc when autofilled IS soft inting. Most yasuo one tricks wont even go yas adc unless duo'd with support. So dont just say u were "having a bad game".
: Tazraned banned for BoostingTazraned banned for Boosting
League forums are more entertaining and more degenerate than a jerry springer show.
RaQqa (EUNE)
: Don't u think Draven is too strong right now ?
Champs actually kinda worthless atm. He's an adc thats forced to win lane to be viable compared to any other adc, in a meta where adcs have nearly no say in whether or not they win lane. He's rly only good for smurfing in an elo where u can basically 1v2 without issues.
Eedat (NA)
: Tarzaned is a high challenger (legit top 10) jungler that has more perma banned accounts than Tyler1. He's known for his extreme mood swings, extreme toxicity, and publically advertising his boosting services. He has a legitimate int list and frequently afks when he gets annoyed. He's a very talented player but has some serious mental issues going on that cause him to completely lose his shit over pretty much nothing. He's kinda like the RatIRL of NA
> [{quoted}](name=Eedat,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=NIapOwvg,comment-id=0003000000000001,timestamp=2019-07-02T13:41:11.718+0000) > > Tarzaned is a high challenger (legit top 10) jungler that has more perma banned accounts than Tyler1. > > He's known for his extreme mood swings, extreme toxicity, and publically advertising his boosting services. He has a legitimate int list and frequently afks when he gets annoyed. > > He's a very talented player but has some serious mental issues going on that cause him to completely lose his shit over pretty much nothing. > > He's kinda like the RatIRL of NA Tyler1 has way more permabanned accounts than tarzaned does 0.0 Also how is he anything like RatIRL?
Dealth (NA)
: How to win more games in gold/plat
What if I rly hate winning? How do I ensure I'm hardstuck?
: Dude Rengar would absolutely OBLITERATE Mordekaiser if he's a little bit ahead
> [{quoted}](name=Coulrofobia,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=000d000000000002,timestamp=2019-07-02T08:45:39.361+0000) > > Dude Rengar would absolutely OBLITERATE Mordekaiser if he's a little bit ahead Actually I can tell u from experience in that matchup, not rly. The thing about mord is he pops that shield for 30% of his max health and no ones one shotting him. Especially not without a completed item, and the mord having ninja tabi's like the case here. Thats a problem for assassins because their damage is all front end, once they fail the one shot their weak af during the sustain damage period. I will say if the rengar saves his empowered W for mord R, and the mord stays near a bush, then rengar will prob win the prolonged fight if rengars smart enough to kite into bush and use w effectively for life. But if rengar just jumps in there full combo with empowered Q, even with the slight item advantage mord would just ult him, chase him down and beat the life from the poor cat. But assassins are not suppose to be assassinating bruisers, so this rly isn't a problem.
Dokkaebi (EUNE)
: Throwback to Rito refusing ranked ARAM because of the RNG factor
: 8*. 8 Assassins in that list. I'm pretty confident almost all of them could've killed him. Maybe one couldn't. So I will say, Shaco is a bad champ, can't kill someone even when very fed and fighting someone who is incredibly behind. Wanna know one of the reasons why? Tabis completely fucks shaco over more so than any other assassin.
> [{quoted}](name=Babydactyl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=000d00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T06:51:58.328+0000) > > 8*. 8 Assassins in that list. I'm pretty confident almost all of them could've killed him. Maybe one couldn't. So I will say, Shaco is a bad champ, can't kill someone even when very fed and fighting someone who is incredibly behind. Wanna know one of the reasons why? Tabis completely fucks shaco over more so than any other assassin. Totally... person who doesn't know what assassins are but is certain that a 51.6% w/r one is a bad champ. Or perhaps maybe shaco's strength isn't in his ability to assassinate anyone, and more in his ability to secure objectives better than most assassins, and be disruptive on backlines after popping a squishy because he can then ult after any not just be insta dead. Maybe not all assassins need to have pure damage in every part of their kit, allowing them to assassinate bruisers.
: {{champion:84}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}}
> [{quoted}](name=Lord Malpercio,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=000d000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-30T05:02:39.874+0000) > > {{champion:84}} {{champion:164}} {{champion:245}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:105}} {{champion:121}} {{champion:11}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:555}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:238}} Ooookay... of all those champs u just listed... only 5 of them are assassins. And only rengar, zed, or eve if she got off W would have won that fight. And it would have taken any of their ults to do so, which is why shacos particularly bad at it. His ult doesn't contribute to him assassinating someone.
: The thing is, Shaco had almost 2 items plus tiamat and boots. Morde had not even one item and boots. Shaco was also 6-0, and morde was 0-6. It's ridiculous that a fed shaco can't kill someone who is practically inting.
> [{quoted}](name=Babydactyl,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hOhrXdA1,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-06-30T02:10:23.958+0000) > > The thing is, Shaco had almost 2 items plus tiamat and boots. Morde had not even one item and boots. Shaco was also 6-0, and morde was 0-6. It's ridiculous that a fed shaco can't kill someone who is practically inting. Ye but what assassin do u think woulda won that fight? I dont thonk many would.
: [SHACO] Now.. i see a lot of people complaining about things that are mainstream. Lets talk Shaco.
I mean... shaco is kinda weak, but i wouldnt expect him to 1v1 a mord. That champions very strong vs assassins. If u wanna carry as shaco just focus on popping squishies. And dont pick him into comps with alot of bruisers.
: 52 % winrate on 255 Ranked solo/duo matches.
Well you don't climb based on a specific champions winrate, your overall winrate is perfectly at 50%. And you're playing velkoz support, which I have never played with a bronze/silv or even rly a gold that can land skillshots consistently enough to justify playing that champ over something else.
: I tuned into his twitch a couple of times and don't understand how people like watching him...sure he's amazing at the game but he whines almost constantly. It's quite literally one snobby, pessimistic comment after the next, not to mention he's INSANELY pompous. There was no 'fun' to be found. He has found success yet is also such a loser
> [{quoted}](name=Noblewind,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=AMiJ9a2L,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-06-26T15:03:47.205+0000) > > I tuned into his twitch a couple of times and don't understand how people like watching him...sure he's amazing at the game but he whines almost constantly. It's quite literally one snobby, pessimistic comment after the next, not to mention he's INSANELY pompous. > > There was no 'fun' to be found. He has found success yet is also such a loser People watch Hashinshin to. I've never seen words leave that mans mouth that weren't to whine.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: Why isn't the design team being held responsible for this game's state?
Well runes reforged had alot to do with it. Added a 3rd dimension to balancing that made it alot harder for them to do. Not rly sure y we even "needed" it...
: How is Tarzaned still not banned?
Oh look... another streamer witch hunt... Dont u people have jobs? Like damn who cares, this guy isnt even going to be in ur games, and its not like the people he does play with mind him. Get over yourself and stop trying to drag other people down because they have something ur envious of.
: > [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xxzXgZak,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-26T01:51:46.447+0000) > > Tahm kenches grey health is because its like pyke. He regenerates it over time unless he turns it into a shield. Would look awkward on mord since that isnt how he works, the white bars already proportioned like a health bar with the ticks per hp amount, so just use that. Exactly. The grey health and Mordekaiser's resource are 2 fundamentally different game mechanics. If anything Mordekaisr's resource bar acts no different from Yasuo's flow. Only difference is that you choose when yo activate the shield rather than being proc'd when you take damage. Additionally only then can it be activated again to restore health. Again it's fundamentally different from grey health, so making it grey health would cause more confusion than clarity for the sake of one and only one champion.
> [{quoted}](name=l Ryden l,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xxzXgZak,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-26T02:02:23.808+0000) > > Exactly. > > The grey health and Mordekaiser's resource are 2 fundamentally different game mechanics. > > If anything Mordekaisr's resource bar acts no different from Yasuo's flow. Only difference is that you choose when yo activate the shield rather than being proc'd when you take damage. Additionally only then can it be activated again to restore health. > > Again it's fundamentally different from grey health, so making it grey health would cause more confusion than clarity for the sake of one and only one champion. Yesh
iiGazeii (NA)
: Can Morde get gray health?
Tahm kenches grey health is because its like pyke. He regenerates it over time unless he turns it into a shield. Would look awkward on mord since that isnt how he works, the white bars already proportioned like a health bar with the ticks per hp amount, so just use that.
: Fuck Jungle
My favorite is when im 100 cs up on enemy jg, and we're the exact same level.
: you can't target an ally to end morde ult though, right?
> [{quoted}](name=Paletongue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=0000000000040001,timestamp=2019-06-25T14:44:22.756+0000) > > you can't target an ally to end morde ult though, right? No, but you can use it on yourself to keep him from being able to pull you out of a fight and kill you for free.
F1r3B3ll (EUW)
: plat 1 is top 5% or something... that pretty high elo lol
Plat to d3 is mid elo. Its not high elo to anyone.
: > [{quoted}](name=AnotherFeeder,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=000000020001,timestamp=2019-06-25T01:04:33.088+0000) > > Wtf are u talking about high elos for? god your name fits so well.
> [{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=0000000200010000,timestamp=2019-06-25T06:19:20.963+0000) > > god your name fits so well. Lol how so, or did ur lil jas thought process end at using the name i obviously gave to myself as an insult?
: My Experiences Traveling Through Gold/Silver (Smurf)
: How come Adaptive Helm is not what the name implies?
It is adapting to the source of magic dmg, mitigating more of it over time. How is that not fitting of its name?
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Aphrolift,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bGYE6AwP,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-06-25T00:39:29.354+0000) > > Pretty sure Nubrac had 50% winrate over his last 31 games 15W-15L with one remake in Master Tier MMR with "roaming" Teemo support. > > This Kayle would have a sub 20% winrate in normals if they played all their games like this. Don't try to act like they're the same. Are you sure that winrate is all from roaming Teemo support where he sits mid for 15 minutes?
> [{quoted}](name=General Esdeath ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=bGYE6AwP,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-06-25T01:30:18.175+0000) > > Are you sure that winrate is all from roaming Teemo support where he sits mid for 15 minutes? No he is not. And it isnt. Dont worry about these people talking about nubrac, it goes nowhere.
: Thing I cant stand about silver elo
Ya silver would he great if it wasnt for all the fkin silver teammates i think. U know whats worse tho? P4's. Dont believe me? My last game my top laner was unranked, peak rank silv, playing ap malphite and forgot to buy items. The opponent was a plat 4 gnar. The gnar hard fed him, including dying level 1 with dorans vs 0 items.
: Is it me, or does a single bad week for ranked just completely fuck your MMR for the season?
If u go on a losing streak, delete acc and srart over imo. Im about to do that for this acc when i get time to play again cuz i dropped from 80% to 51% from 2 lose streaks in a row. Shits doomed
: > [{quoted}](name=Critmaster Garen,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=KZHFRH8A,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-06-24T18:30:01.135+0000) > > build or rush {{item:3123}} into the vlad matchup and/or any of the following champions: > > {{champion:266}} {{champion:84}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:9}} {{champion:41}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:141}} (rhaast) {{champion:82}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:20}} {{champion:107}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:517}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:106}} {{champion:19}} {{champion:154}} > > the following champions you might get away with {{item:3076}} but might rather want to build executioners aswell. since for some of them its easy to just not attack you for 3 seconds and then heal up on minions after a trade. > > {{champion:122}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:56}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:58}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:5}} {{champion:83}} > > > as you can see, the list of champions whod just straight up out sustain or out heal any damage you deal to them or their allies is quile long. Not that it's not good advice, but this is Memes & Games. He's joking.
> [{quoted}](name=Livin like Riven,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=KZHFRH8A,comment-id=00050001,timestamp=2019-06-24T19:44:35.721+0000) > > Not that it's not good advice, but this is Memes & Games. He's joking. What? He just recommended getting both bramb and exec vs vlad. This is terrible advice lol. Totally worthy of memes and games.
: > [{quoted}](name=Pika Fox,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-24T19:18:51.500+0000) > > Pretty much. Unless youre a support, you have build options available. If you are a support, generally difficult as you lack the gold and item availability. Supports have so many active build options that are so cheap... Unless your support is buying the wrong stuff such as finishing their tier 3 support item early and going for expensive boots over mobis... it's literally a cake walk to get counterplay as a support. Yeah morellos is out of the way... but your adc gets to buy a grevious wounds for 800 g... why would u ever need to buy it for yourself as a support? And if you're a tank support then actually throw that out the window because bramble vest is extremely cheap. Supports not being able to get strong items is fake news. The old rank 1 challenger support literally would roam and steal kills just so he could reach his items faster because support items are so good and they have so many options. Even building tanky as an enchanter support is viable... like I don't get what you mean, but support isn't some non carry role anymore... they literally buffed support so many times into a carry role. People who act like it isn't clearly don't play it at high elos lol.
> [{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=00000002,timestamp=2019-06-24T22:12:56.994+0000) > > Supports have so many active build options that are so cheap... Unless your support is buying the wrong stuff such as finishing their tier 3 support item early and going for expensive boots over mobis... it's literally a cake walk to get counterplay as a support. Yeah morellos is out of the way... but your adc gets to buy a grevious wounds for 800 g... why would u ever need to buy it for yourself as a support? And if you're a tank support then actually throw that out the window because bramble vest is extremely cheap. Supports not being able to get strong items is fake news. The old rank 1 challenger support literally would roam and steal kills just so he could reach his items faster because support items are so good and they have so many options. Even building tanky as an enchanter support is viable... like I don't get what you mean, but support isn't some non carry role anymore... they literally buffed support so many times into a carry role. People who act like it isn't clearly don't play it at high elos lol. Wtf are u talking about high elos for?
: vs morde alone i need open wounds, qss, im still an adc so i need ie and at least 2 zeal items + boots. im alrdy full build only to "counter" 1 champ that can still fuck me if his e hits me. theres 4 other enemy champs. and most likely one of them is an ad assassin.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-06-25T00:46:17.654+0000) > > vs morde alone i need open wounds, qss, im still an adc so i need ie and at least 2 zeal items + boots. > im alrdy full build only to "counter" 1 champ that can still fuck me if his e hits me. > theres 4 other enemy champs. and most likely one of them is an ad assassin. You don't actually need GRIEVOUS wounds for mord. He shields more than he heals rly. Plus even if they have more healing and u do, its only 2100 for qss + executioners.
: I was wondering how support would work. How about tanks? Can tanks reasonably build QSS for mord?
> [{quoted}](name=Hethalean,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vsdKYAvw,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-24T19:25:25.061+0000) > > I was wondering how support would work. > > How about tanks? Can tanks reasonably build QSS for mord? Build mikaels...
: Riot why are you putting newly level 30 players in their ranked promos in our ranked games?
Anyone still debating about poor matchmaking is wasting their time. Riot does not care... at all. If youre thst worried about it, stop giving them money, ask others to stop giving them money. Stop watching their shit on twitch. Just stop supporting them until they start showing some effort to out quality back in their game. Because as long as its obvious theyre gonna sell their skins and get their ad revenue regardless, wtf do they care?
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