: You seriously can't tell me that this is okay....
1.) he's getting a nerf next patch 2.) those numbers aren't that oppressive- plenty of champs have hovered at 53 or higher before 3.) You're biased too lol
: Now pay a hacker to track him down. Leave cell phone at home, plant some drugs in his home, and tip the cops. Justice! {{sticker:garen-swing}}
funny i pictured myself as happy garen doing this
Bazerka (NA)
: Support main here too, fwiw a good support should leave their adc alone at strategic points during the game. This allows them to spread their influence to other lanes and hopefully secure more things. I'd recommend altering your playstyle when your support roams to be a bit safer and cautious of engages or risky cs. GLHF!
Why do i feel like you didn't even read Post before replying?
Syrile (NA)
: Players who want to do good and not troll will always listen to advice, at least enough to determine if the person is being helpful or harmful. Thing is, most of the players that do horrible consistently and have played for more than a short period of time really do not have much interest in getting better. And any new player that instantly refuses assistance is clearly a problem in the game. Both should be given warnings about behavior, at the least.
I really do agree with this. I think the approach to new and returning players needs to be completely revamped. I have extensive thoughts on the subject from tutorial videos to IFS punishment adjustments
crispy66 (NA)
: A league match isn't the best place to be giving advises, wait until they cooldown
Lol I don't think that individual ever has a cool off period
: Not to be a pessimist, but just get use to it. This is League of Legends, AKA most toxic gaming community on the internet. If you can't handle flame, leave before you suffer a nervous breakdown. I've been playing for over 4 years, and it's been consistently the same amount of overbearing toxicity each year. Again, not a pessimist, just a realist.
I wish it was different
: I tried to make a point here. But no one took the bait, so I'll spell it out. The no empathy thing goes both ways. People don't see your face and recognize you are trying to be helpful, they might think you are one of the toxic masses trying to tell them how to play. If that's the case you just say "hey, I'm just trying to help, I'll back off." And then you do. You just let them go, let them play. You have no control over it. It can be aggravating to have people try to help you in a heated moment, even if their intentions are pure. They might misconstrue it as someone trying to assert intellectual dominance. You just respect it and move on, mute them if necessary. Remember, you are trying to help them play better, not control them.
I don't see the point? You weren't there (I did just say I'm trying to help)- Person responded to "help" with rage and spite and trolling. That's not ok, so standards need to be changed. I didn't start the scenario- kid was bitching from select and then was struggling to do basic stuff so I tried to be nice instead of just being a dick back. More of us should at least try that. The way you responded paints the scenario in a light that it just didn't occur in. So you're not wrong, but you definitely aren't right
: How were you trying to be nice?
I was getting flamed by somebody and I responded with positivity and tips-- they swapped from being mean to fake nice then flipped their lid again. {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-rainbows}}
: Not to be a pessimist, but just get use to it. This is League of Legends, AKA most toxic gaming community on the internet. If you can't handle flame, leave before you suffer a nervous breakdown. I've been playing for over 4 years, and it's been consistently the same amount of overbearing toxicity each year. Again, not a pessimist, just a realist.
Ecophile (NA)
: You do realise you would do this in the streets and it would be considered harrassement if he says no and you keep insisting? You have to respect people man. Not everyone wants to be schooled while playing a game.
Its not like I wrote book in game. Also its not harassment-- there wasn't a "no" there was just bitching, flaming, I tried to be nice, so they faked nice and then doubled the rage after. Honestly you weren't there so why would you assume that I was just pestering said person?
: "tried to be nice to someone" *is named AntiSJW* Yup, everything checks out.
I see you missed the joke :D
Kaisha (NA)
: LOL... let me guess, you flamed him and he ignored you. The worst players are always the first to give 'advice'.
Flaming in game gets no where-- even if you're 100% right. That guess says more about you than me sweetheart
Apriccot (NA)
: yea dont bother, people suck.
For real- Plus stupid My kha last game was pinged ( by whole team over course of game ) for ganks. Because I pinged 3 times (once him 2 on me) he said "you're griefing me stfu" and proceeded to solo farm lol
Saezio (EUNE)
: And when you asked to help they lashed out? :o Did you even report them? That's very telling of a toxic player.
Saezio (EUNE)
: Did you actually try to be nice? like did you ask if they wanted you to help them? Or went and suggested builds items and gameplay without ever asking whether they wanted the input or not?
Rioter Comments
Jo0o (NA)
: Five Critical Improvements to Riot's Behavioral System (from somebody who has never been punished)
: Yasuo has a lot of tools but actually doesn't suffer from this problem as a whole. His winrate actually goes down in higher ELO play as opponents learn to exploit him. The core combo of being a squishy melee without strong burst leaves a lot of opportunity for opponents to stop him.
Thank God you don't listen to the hail of players that just don't like him being viable
AntiSJW (NA)
: lmfao where is Yas mentioned?
wow if you scroll down-- he says yas isn't a problem
Gramps69 (NA)
: Check out Rito's lead gameplay designer's thoughts on Yasuo: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/qzzu5y4t-champion-weaknesses-in-2019
lmfao where is Yas mentioned?
: > [{quoted}](name=R107 Games,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=xdJPdE1P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-02-08T20:23:53.656+0000) > > Hard disagree. > > I don't think anyone should be punished for what they merely type, unless the typing is excessive. > > I think the community needs to learn to tolerate speech they disagree with. You can mitigate toxicity with the mute button, or nullify it with mental control. > > Heavily restricting players on how they express themselves in chat or punishing them for what they type is -- to an extent, not the solution Whats the solution and why rito hasnt think of it yet?
Logistics and Politics First policing the community in any way is a massive under taking Riot's headquarters are LA--- There's a strong censorship movement and its much easier to address chat problems. The more that plays out though the more frustrated the community gets with punishment focus and lack of player integrity. We all have mute buttons. Its a fix all. If Riot encouraged us to just use mute annoying things (like pings ha) so they could focus on scrutinizing play patterns, they could still use flaming as supplemental evidence to ban the troll. IFS should just be passive and ban you for using certain slurs, rather than waiting for player reports. I think those changes in combination would help a lot for players of both sides of the issue. I might need to just post the suggestion after typing this lol
: Re: new conqueror
Pretty sure Yorick's pets are special and share his rune buffs especially for stat buffs
: can we have a 1 vs 1 ranked queue
Gramps69 (NA)
: @Riot Why don't you listen to your f**king players when it comes to Yasuo?
Lol- He's getting touched up soon, but the main culprit is conqueror + shyv buffs this patch. He's squishier-- which as a Yas player I felt was a good trade off for damage with shyv---- but Conqueror lets him abuse the hell out of his enemies and I do agree its pretty ridiculous Basically conqueror is so good with his natural playstyle (current version) it destroys his access to other runes. For example-- I don't like conqueror, but I use because I have to. If you go to https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Yasuo/Middle/ All of those wins are funneled into ONE RUNE. I like to change my runes for my match ups and the other runes reduce yasuos damage by so much compared to conqueror that alone would be a good nerf. I have a feeling though that he's going to get gutted, then over buffed, as is Riot's tendency, leading to even more bans lol I pray they read this and don't hammer him out of playability- I'd be ok if new conqueror ends up being weaker on him. It should in theory, because he has to do more than just jump on you after hitting a minion to get true damage.
Rioter Comments
: so , 7 wins in row , by rito logic means...
xAcidik (NA)
: Balancing Around Pro Play Sucks For Us
Zach xD (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiSJW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AHtzRAeR,comment-id=000000000001000000000001000100000000,timestamp=2019-02-06T06:16:23.256+0000) > > I never said his only counter point is play off your jungler--- thats an assumption and a bad one. On your first post, your answer was literally "Ok jump him in numbers or take the 5v4 against his team elsewhere." I don't mean to treat it as the crux of your whole argument, but this isn't really counterplay within Yasuo's kit. > Yes being circumstantial doesn't mean balance but when the previous argument addresses him as if he never suffers from situational strengths as reason to nerf then its a pretty good response > > Your counter argument about ignite is a bad argument to call mine a bad argument lol The point was in relation to above ^^ > That is to say there are champions with more mobility, survivability, damage, and overall team utility than yasuo. Of course it's a bad argument, that's the point; it follows the same logic you gave me to work with. > You can't use that as a reason to nerf him alone. I don't think his winrate or utility across all elos justifies him being "too strong". Ban rate is because he's annoying and popular so you're likely to see him a lot. I'm glad Riot disagrees with your philosophy of nerf-immunity based on winrate, otherwise I'd still have to ban Akali on this patch :S
You literally aren't saying anything new or counter pointing anything accurately lol I think our discussion is done. I can explain but can't understand it for you so agree to disagree. You will get your wish probably according to Riot Blaustoise--- but I did warn whatever changes they make to him may justify a stronger buff later. On a note we might agree on - Conqueror is getting changed-- idk if its a healthy one either lol
KDA Umbra (EUW)
: It doesn't matter which one is worse. They're both detrimental to your match in their own way.
Yes but in real situations human beings must adapt to the factors in their environment and moral idealism doesn't always hold up as a possible standard. Meaning- no I don't want flamers either. Yes flamers are annoying and can tilt your other allies who are weak minded and easily swayed-- but just talking itself is less impactful to the game than where you click. Players who come into a pvp game with no intention to play with the other 4 is already risking a disadvantage. They put their allies even further at disadvantage when they don't talk, don't ping, don't listen, and feed. They aren't growing as players and they are a burden on every team they get matched with. But you can't scrutinize them as hard if you're too worried about making sure all the talking players are moral first. Which is silly because we have a mute to deal with words. Everyone WANTS to stay offended enough past muting to call mute "not enough to forget the traumatic event that was being called a bitch". The focus of punishment in this game speaks volumes as to why people "Don't talk and troll"
: There are two types of toxic people and this one is worse IMO:
: New Conqueror Changes
Can you say {{champion:39}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:39}}
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiSJW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jah4lUAp,comment-id=0002000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-07T23:06:57.657+0000) > > If I pick ARAM- I expect no one to run into towers over and over but its the least "demanding" of the modes and most casual > If I pick blind- I don't expect anything but the most casual of casual (and petty) solo games > If I pick norms- Its pretty much the same as blind but with the banning phase. People even get mad when you ask for help or ask for team work. You get flamed just like blind. > > So Rank is all that is left for anyone who wants to have "a good game"-- or rather one with an attempt at teamwork > Rank is the one mode where the point is take it serious---- if you don't really care about where you are on the ladder (as a concept) its not meant for you. If you don't really care because its quality has gone to crap and you don't expect an improvement-- I understand. > > I used to enjoy the normal modes until the expectations of "trying" went out the window. > Rank quickly became the only game to possibly fish "serious" teammates. I don't really feel it even gives that this season. Player intergrity is way down and often the excuse is "lol its a game" or whatever. > > Balancing and matchmaking are way off rn I think you miss the point of what I'm saying. I do think role queue is anti-fun, and it is in a bad state. I play ranked to have fun. Ranked is "hard mode" in League. Ever played hard mode in a game? Anyway, so posistion queue is due to taking this all too seriously, as if it's so important to protect the integrity or differing skill levels in roles. .. Maybe you can see my point if I explain it that way, but what I'm really saying is if ranked isn't fun for you, don't play ranked - because you gain nothing of great importance. If you really wanted to be very serious about the game (make this your life, or make money); then you should play scrims and try and go pro, or else be a clown streamer with 500+ viewers. That's all I'm going to say about it, thanks.
I got you, Its you whom I think doesn't get me and OP lol It used to be hard mode--- but the community has become so unwilling to 'try' on hard mode, or any mode above 'ez' for that matter, its ruining the fun of alllll modes. Rank is just the last line of defense of "difficulty integrity". You need to have four other teammates and 5 enemies who are willing to play the game through in order to have "a game". People are getting pissed because we can barely have "a game" that doesn't feel like a flat waste of time. Its not all about climbing. Where we disagree I think is you see the decline is from people taking it too seriously, when I see it more to do with how Riot changed the environment we play in outside of just balance factors There's barely any real enforcement of playing the game through honestly (not talking leaverbuster). The boards and reddit and youtube all echo how matchmaking quality is declining You may not be able to care/understand because your standard is scrims right? - I get that. I don't know about the rest of the community but I myself don't know enough people to make those. My friends list dried up in the past 2 seasons as trolling increased. I stopped measuring my own skill by solo/duo ranking a long time ago (because you are right too) All that said- add me if you have scrim groups that sounds more fun than what Riot has pre-constructed
: Spear of Shojin is a testament to the utterly idiotic balancing in this game
Saezio (EUNE)
: Yeah that's the best build I thought, but people here are telling me Sterak doesn't synergize well with yas so I thought I'd ask you because I remember you were High elo and had good opinions from some older posts that I had come across your name. P.S. Sorry for the grammatical error, this game is ruining my English
Shyv IE *New Razor Steraks/Hex is fun
: > [{quoted}](name=Floofboi Ralsei,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Jah4lUAp,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-02-07T20:51:58.181+0000) > > I'm sorry but if I met you in game, I would report you for trolling. Going into a mode that records stats and keeps track of progress is an incentive to play your best. Not that you shouldn't in all games, but you can't say "lmao ranked isn't serious" and have that attitude. Literally playing because currently Dota is eff'd and sometimes I do get good games here. > > More often then not though it's just a joke and one teamfight ends the game. The map is too small and towers are made of paper. Everyone does too much damage, and the game isn't fun when you just get deleted. > > Also lately there has been absurd packet loss and it's ruined 3 of my games. I play pretty seriously, but I don't take ranked seriously. As in I play seriously but I play for fun... Make sense? I hope so.
If I pick ARAM- I expect no one to run into towers over and over but its the least "demanding" of the modes and most casual If I pick blind- I don't expect anything but the most casual of casual (and petty) solo games If I pick norms- Its pretty much the same as blind but with the banning phase. People even get mad when you ask for help or ask for team work. You get flamed just like blind. So Rank is all that is left for anyone who wants to have "a good game"-- or rather one with an attempt at teamwork Rank is the one mode where the point is take it serious---- if you don't really care about where you are on the ladder (as a concept) its not meant for you. If you don't really care because its quality has gone to crap and you don't expect an improvement-- I understand. I used to enjoy the normal modes until the expectations of "trying" went out the window. Rank quickly became the only game to possibly fish "serious" teammates. I don't really feel it even gives that this season. Player intergrity is way down and often the excuse is "lol its a game" or whatever. Balancing and matchmaking are way off rn
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiSJW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kUYnxLBa,comment-id=0001000000020000,timestamp=2019-02-06T18:24:38.946+0000) > > If I had feelings they'd be moved Sounds like you do, you seem butthurt at the notion of watching what you say including what you do.
That's a pretty big assumption and more projection than analysis of me :P
: Tier1 towers
REINFORCED TP WITH MONEY ON IT XD XD XD XD
Zebrawwr (EUW)
: dont worry i get wrecked since i started play lol, there was and is never any chance for me to have an usefull role in an normal or ranked game. Now im lvl 66 but evry guy with lvl 30-66 is way better then me, but what u expect when bad players or beginners just there to get raped by smurfs^^, my mood is pretty fu**ed. I mostly cant win a game except one of the uber smurfs is on my team and rapes whole enemie team hiself.., im allreay in lowest bronze but still cant find games with similar bad players like me xD. So yeah, i dont like the matchmaking aswell. For me just the Bot games left :3
This actually makes me sad to read {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}} How can you learn if you're just getting pooped on by smurfs that have no intention of helping you learn during the loss?
: Aatrox will be forgotten after his gutting
: PSA: SOME JUNGLERS CANT GANK AS WELL AT LEVEL 2.
: So which ADC is best to learn now with the new crit changes?
I recommend practicing on {{champion:22}} first {{item:3153}} {{item:3085}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3046}} are all good on her If not Ashe then {{champion:51}} They have a lot auto range and are good at playing safe to survive if the match up is hard
so on99 (NA)
: 9.3 graves
Good question- I'd also like some answers lol
Rioter Comments
: Update: The matchmaker is still garbage
Yeah I'd rather wait longer to get in matches if it means I won't have 20 min of lanes losing/winning because there are 2 Tiers separating some players
: {{item:1006}} {{item:1006}} {{item:1006}} {{item:2003}} at the start of the game is usually more effective in hard poke top lanes than {{item:1054}} or {{item:2033}} early on for a few reasons. * the healing is constant, weather you’re getting poked down or not unlike with Doran’s shield, putting pressure on the enemy to go SUPER aggro in order to get any lasting damage on you * Allows you to build directly into items like {{item:3077}} {{item:3801}} to allow you to stay in lane even longer * Even though you only have one potion, the Beads push your healing beyond just using pots in the early game (just be careful though, unlike with corrupting pot you get no mana sustain this way) After your first back rush {{item:3047}} and then try to beat him down in a 1v1. With the bonus movespeed you have over him plus the damage reduction and armor there’s no way he’ll build anything to beat you in a fair 1V1 after. This won’t gaurentee victory, but it makes dealing with that range a lot easier. So far I’ve done this against {{champion:80}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:81}} {{champion:429}} and {{champion:17}} lanes and won all except the Vayne lane which we technically tied, with her beating me in CS and assists, and me beating her in towers and kills.
Yes this is good- only reason vayne won prolly cuz her 3 proc passive
GreyfellD (EUW)
: This game is neither rewarding nor fun in its current incarnation
I stopped giving them money even when super cool stuff comes out. Every time I get a player their system should've scooped for throwing games I remind them how long its been since I've given them money and why I'm still refusing to give them money lol Its kinda hard to measure whats balanced and make changes across the whole system when you can't even gather 10 individuals with basic integrity into one game. 8 out of 10 still leaves 2 to ruin it for the rest. Matchmaking? Ranks? Tiers? Yeah those don't matter when they started putting bronze with gold etc for the sake of speed. Oh- and this isn't out of spite but I used to care more about the LCS and Pros when my average games didn't feel so terrible. Relating to them playing is awesome, but I don't watch LCS anymore because I can't relate to their teamwork. You can't focus teamwork in a game that pre-requires you abandon all your human emotions and language expressions in order to not get banned the times you're frustrated. You can't focus teamwork in a game that will punish you for talking and annoying someone---- even if that someone is not even trying to win. Company sucks ballsack
: Since Nasus has become a topic of QQ here on boards, allow me to remind y’all of a few things
: But I don't complain about struggling against Yas with Darius, a lot of the time I best him, sometimes I lose, that part is ok. I'm talking about almost any other matchups. Like the only three weaknesses I have every heard that I believe are valid are that Yas pushes to much (which is within his control), he dashes too often for his own good for flashy plays (in his control), and that he's low ho (not in his control), but he makes up for his low ho and more with mobility, double Shields if he ults, windwall, and insane life steal if he chooses to buy it. Only other true weakness I know is fighting against Jax or tryn, but thats because those champs have win-all scenarios (Jax E, tryn R), however, he can even outplay them by dashing away until they are vulnerable then destroying them. However, Jax holds ultimate cards there by pressing e then jumping, unless Yas has a tornado and knocks Jax up during the jump
"Almost all other matchups" Are you mains of those "other matchups"? Even if you are, your image of him as over powered is in your head. Yas has strengths AND downsides Its all about how you use them or counter the use of them. I feel like I could list champions that have similarities of strength that are better and you'd just say "no, meh, yas, meh" lol Seriously dude all I'm seeing is complaints of annoyances not any justifications to him being broken and therefore needing nerfing, especially when you haven't answered about items/conqueror, which I keep mentioning is what makes him viable to fight lots of match ups. If you were here talking item nerfs in relation to him, or conqueror nerfs, we'd be having a much healthier discussion than this back and forth where I point out all the reasons you're wrong about him specifically then you don't adequately answer them but stick to your stance that he needs nerfing lol Lets stray away from Yas as a point and look at Lissandra - Liss is strong with aftershock, it actually makes her pretty oppressive to other mages and she can even go toe to toe with syndra ori and zoe and win. Is it because of Lissandra's super safe kit? Is it aftershock? Is Lissandra broken because she can win so many match ups with ease and carry a team with simple roam cc plays? No But if you were super stubborn and absolutely convinced its her fault, I'd be saying the same thing--- She's only that strong because of aftershock. It gives her resistances that let her get close and trade with point click attacks. Changing her kit wouldn't fix the problem - it would either break her or make her useless - so the healthier talking point would be aftershock changes THE SAME THING AS WITH YAS AND LOTS OF OTHER CHAMPS :D
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiSJW,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=kUYnxLBa,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-02-05T21:03:30.861+0000) > > Ahhh the feeling of "oh man you type bad things" being worse than "oh man you do bad things" Username checks out
If I had feelings they'd be moved
Zach xD (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=AntiSJW,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AHtzRAeR,comment-id=0000000000010000000000010001,timestamp=2019-02-04T21:42:17.623+0000) > > All of your answers aren't reasons as to why "he's broken" - Your inability or rather frustration with learning how to play against him as a mage doesn't make the champion broken. He has strengths and weaknesses- too bad if the strengths frustrate you personally. Get better at calling/coordinating with your jg if you really can't handle the match up yourself. If a champion's counterplay is "coordinate with your jungler", I think that says more about the champion than it does about me. It's like you're assuming that he can't coordinate with his own jungler, or that your jungler having to focus your lane doesn't come at the opportunity cost of pressure elsewhere on the map. > Circumstantial means not broken, not constant, and not overpowered. He's been gutted repeatedly compared to his earlier version. You're really just making a complaint that relates more to you and not the "rebalancing" needed for the champ in general. Being circumstantial doesn't inherently make something balanced, and being less powerful than a previous version doesn't automatically make something not powerful. > Lastly, there are far "worse" champions in the game who will own your whole team way worse than a yas could Flash is a stronger/more popular summoner spell than ignite, ergo ignite did not need nerfs. Bad argument. > Not like you addressed that or what it means to have circumstantial power We aren't arguing over whether his power is circumstantial or not, the only argument made in reference to it is that being circumstantial doesn't inherently balance an ability or effect.
I never said his only counter point is play off your jungler--- thats an assumption and a bad one. Yes being circumstantial doesn't mean balance but when the previous argument addresses him as if he never suffers from situational strengths as reason to nerf then its a pretty good response Your counter argument about ignite is a bad argument to call mine a bad argument lol The point was in relation to above ^^ That is to say there are champions with more mobility, survivability, damage, and overall team utility than yasuo. You can't use that as a reason to nerf him alone. I don't think his winrate or utility across all elos justifies him being "too strong". Ban rate is because he's annoying and popular so you're likely to see him a lot. You haven't really said anything to refute the large amount of typing I've done.
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