MrGerund (EUW)
: her laugh animation is the same as shaco's... we need what you're proposing here.
> [{quoted}](name=MrGerund,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MMywxAEW,comment-id=001d,timestamp=2018-11-23T13:01:33.718+0000) > > her laugh animation is the same as shaco's... > > we need what you're proposing here. OMG.... cant unsee.... pls fix....
QMighty (NA)
: Totally agree. Look at all the rolling around she does in her comic and the Ryze video... I wanna see that happen with her anims.
> [{quoted}](name=QMighty,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MMywxAEW,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-11-22T14:52:23.099+0000) > > Totally agree. Look at all the rolling around she does in her comic and the Ryze video... I wanna see that happen with her anims. literally same. i know shes supposed to be an immobile adc but, shes always rolling and dodging bullets and shit. like give us that MF T~T
: I keep telling my friends she needs a mini rework, kinda like Ezreal where they don't really change her kit (even though I kinda want her to have a dash); but they change her model, animations, and VO. But Riot can't decide on what they want with her, so were stuck with low quality -shrugs
> [{quoted}](name=MisInsaneFortune,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=MMywxAEW,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-22T04:59:52.294+0000) > > I keep telling my friends she needs a mini rework, kinda like Ezreal where they don't really change her kit (even though I kinda want her to have a dash); but they change her model, animations, and VO. > > But Riot can't decide on what they want with her, so were stuck with low quality -shrugs Pretty much this, all she needs is an Ezreal style update. And i really didnt wanna make any kit suggestions here because that could be very polarizing and this post was mainly about her visuals, but i also dream of the day mf can dash back a small distance (kinda like akali e) while shooting forward, maybe in a cone shape like her ult. Also giving her more ways to bounce bullets between people would be cool and really solidify her as "AOE damage Adc". but maybe thats going too far into Sivirs space of ricocheting attacks between targets.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: August 22
Okay but what about lissandra 😭💕
RiotLamz (NA)
: Favorite/least favorite Running animation in League
not completely related but give {{champion:21}} a back animation? she at some point recently got a base spawn/recall windown animation which looks great but she still has no recall to lead into that awesomeness. She also has no home guard animation. her vo needs an update too but thats besides the point hehe. specifically regarding run animations, {{champion:143}} looks pretty janky, especially her lack of "Stop" animation. really shows her age. also {{champion:40}} just really terrible lazily animated flight in general.
: Marksman changes coming to PBE in the next couple days
One question, how does this affect MF? Is the new keystone synergistic with her kit?
Quepha (NA)
: Remember when they HAD to change Fiora's face, her actual identity, because they didn't think it was OK for champions to just be pretty for no reason? And then they created Kai'sa who was pretty for no reason in complete defiance of what would make sense for a void-corrupted champion? Riot completely changes old champions based only on the whims of the day and never undoes their mistakes. It's complete nonsense, they need to admit their mistakes, and they need to go back and fix them.
although did somewhat like the direction they took her, im not completely happy with it. it just feels like they rushed and gave us what they thought she should be as opposed to what she actually was... her rework aged her A LOT.
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: Janna Main - Janna Mechanics [COMPLETED]
i literally read this interview and your comments and then went on to have my best janna game ever LOL. REACTIVE PLAYS!
Mhija (NA)
: Tribeca Games Presents The Craft and Creative of League of Legends
will this be like streamed or recorded ??? id want to see this so bad
Orisi (EUW)
: Did someone do a gender bent Lucian or is this actually genuinely Senna Lucian and you just found Bioluminescence's soulmate? That name is so hard to spell at 2am...
: > [{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=kd4Beftq,comment-id=001f00000000,timestamp=2015-11-04T22:24:22.026+0000) > > What skin would you like to see? :3 > Is it something that already has fan concept art you can share? I want to see... Senna Lucian. It'd have to be a super fancy, lots-of-work skin, but I'd like to see Lucian's kit on a Senna model. New VO, new animations, new mesh, the lot. Basically, an alternate universe skin where Lucian was captured by Thresh, and Senna is on the vengeance war path. I think that'd be cool. Not sure if there's a fan concept out there, but I imagine there could be. Playable Senna isn't a new idea after all, but maybe not as a 'skin' for Lucian.
[(http://dr-grizscald.deviantart.com/art/fem-Lucian-the-Purifier-fanart-560870618)] behold a masterpiece
Ikikaea (NA)
: Why did Gangplank getting nearly killed make him Fat?
does it matter ???? did you know that his "old" base is now a free skin?? so there you go! you don't have to play as the new fat one !
: Riot, give MF the Gangplank treatment.
i second this , as a dedicated mf player gp getting a more whats basically 2 VU's one of which is now a free skin i feel especially sad that ill have to buy the captain mf skin instead of it being her default
GreenLore (EUW)
: But I think the 2nd option can be done a lot better. Getting downright insulting is really unnecessary and many threads failed to notice that some stuff had already been changed(I saw several threads complaining about the first VU-version of royal guards face,even when they updated it already) Also if I remember correctly,we actually managed to get the Tristana splash art changed without flooding the boards.
This. I found people to be going about this in an unessecarliy rude manner. i didn't even design the splash and hell _I_ was offended by what people where saying about it, I'm personally impressed with how restrained IronStylus was with how critical people were being about everything. Een bringing up things of the past like {{champion:55}} splash update like ? It looks great ??? Perfect even.
: i wonder thou .... for me ahri is still sexy in her splash what i think that he does isnt making women ugly .... but taking the sexuality out of the centre ... so instead of advertising a champion through boobs he tries to advertise their theme instead
> [{quoted}](name=Hagane No Arashi,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vPfJ2o90,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2015-07-25T07:51:11.649+0000) > > i wonder thou .... for me ahri is still sexy in her splash > > > what i think that he does isnt making women ugly .... but taking the sexuality out of the centre ... so instead of advertising a champion through boobs he tries to advertise their theme instead well isn't that what it should be ? sure we have some "sexy' champions that you want to play because of that but not every champ has to be some sort or seduction goddess. Im talking in terms of the splash , the design of the outfit is sleek and looks nice , the colors mesh well and while very stylized ( what people are calling angular and cartoony) is a very defined and polished aesthetic. Of course style is subjective and people will love and hate it as we've seen. Pushing a champion through theme is much more interesting than making them sexy giving them a weapon and saying "here she's a duelist".
Solaxo (EUNE)
: If Riot DOES listen then explain Cassiopeia for example
what is this supposed to mean ? she's fine ?
: > [{quoted}](name=Wolfeur,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=ElazmANT,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2015-07-25T03:47:16.529+0000) > > Yeah, but people complain all the time about everything and refuse change... Yeah, and name one good reason to change the old art. It wasn't outdated in the least and the model looked better than the ones they've put out so far - even after the fixes. All they're doing is taking baby steps changing VU Fiora sorta back into the old Fiora. It's ridiculous. I'm wondering when they'll realize this whole idea is fucking retarded and just go back to the old art/model with maybe some texture updates on the model. Probably not. Just more tweaks before they force this through.
But the old art _was_ outdated, it simply did not fit in with the current artistic direction they are taking in regards to champion design and aesthetic. It was stated these design philosophies and guidelines would be explained to us later because its such a broad subject.
NvrGivUp (NA)
: Nobody better say that RIOT doesn't listen to its playerbase. RIOT has done so much over the years.
: FIORA'S HAIR IS BACK WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO..... ........ .................... ................................ Woo.
it indeed is on the splash and model , ill just leave this here
: IronStylus Says: Deal With It. - I Say: Give us our money back or never get any more from us.
http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/vPfJ2o90-well-outraged-fiora-players-you-got-what-you-wanted just leave this here
oMdwo (NA)
: as this man who posted this was a supporter of the new fiora splash, i am a HUD supporter, and i honestly think the HUD thing is blown way out of porportion thats just my opinion
i actually really enjoy the new HUD too, sure initially i couldn't find certain things but once i figured all out its a nice visual update, looks much sleeker and modern p.s. i actually think the in-game model does look significantly better with this hair , even if i liked how the splash was originally
Rioter Comments
: I'll hold off my judgement until I see the updated splash/models, but I sincerely hope they make the most of the changes. Personally, I'd like to see her forehead covered/the hair part at least somewhat changed, and her features softened and doing so would solve most of the gripes people have with her (i.e. age/manliness etc) Edit: Also could you provide me with a link to the quote? Would like to read the context and discussion
of course https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3e9mh6/fiora_model_is_being_worked_on_we_are_being/ctdjwsc?context=3
: Like others have been saying, I'm all for diversifying female champs, but not an existing one. Fiora's supposed to be young, haughty, and beautiful and the splash/models don't reflect that. Yes, I acknowledge the work that went into it, but criticism of a product (in this case, the VU) is only natural. TLDR; changing the identity/appearance of an existing champion -- especially one that, aside from a couple minor tweaks, didn't need a VU is not OK.
i can understand the concern with the identity of the character changing , but on the topic of her not needing a VU; we couldn't possibly know if she needed one or not. It was stated that she was updated visually to match they're new design philosophies that came about with the introduction of the new Summoners Rift. These philosophies and principles will be explained to us at a later time. To quote IronStylus: >"Upfront note: We'll be following up later in the coming months most likely with a dev blog or other such post going into why as artists we're shifting gears towards a more stylized approach to character design. This should help to inform people as to why we do what we do. Right now though, I'll clarify some things. > We are updating some of the assets (splash, models, etc) to adjust for more of a softer take. Some tweaks are being made to the model to decrease some of the angular-ness as well as soften some facial features. That's happening across skins as well. Some costume changes are also being done to Royal Guard Fiora to dial her back a bit. > That being said, we most likely will not be moving the hair part to where it was originally. Those are geometry changes that affect the UV's of the model and it can cause some compounding issues with the model itselve and rigging that was done to add a bit of bounce to her hair (from a technical standpoint it means re-exporting/deleting animations and that can gum up the process). There were also some deliberate design choices made there that can be elaborated on in later posts. > This is mainly a TL;DR. My hope is to lay out a more extensive blog/post/communication that delves into our character design philosophies akin to what was done in our explanation of how we went about the Summoner's Rift update, or how game design has elaborated on their methods. I've talked to our art director about it and there's interest in doing such a thing for characters. > To make a long story short, we have a lot of design philosophies surrounding characters as it relates to read, clarity, hierarchy, intellectual property development/world building, creating distinctiveness in roster, etc. There's very deliberate decisions we make along the way of any character design. I'd like for us to expound upon that and do a deep dive to show players the reasoning behind our decisions. > There are further things to discuss obviously. Subjects that hit a nerve at times when it comes to League and it's characters, but for right now this is more of a status update on asset tweaks, with later on this year communicating some wider art principles."
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: Agreed. Just terrible. And why did they remove the Map Ping button? What was the point of that?

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