rujitra (NA)
: Funnily enough, Riot isn't there simply to please you and you only. So no, they aren't going to revert something just because a few people hate changes. Obviously they aren't super balanced yet and they have a learning curve. **That's the point of preseason**. The chance these changes get reverted completely or even reworked heavily is next to 0. The dragon buffs will stay basically the same - they will play with numbers to balance. The dragon souls will stay basically the same - they will play with numbers. So if you're unwilling to get used to 2 random dragons then repetitive of the same type, and getting a soul+elder spawns after one team gets 4, then you should just quit now and save yourself the time.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=e59KMqmZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-22T03:07:03.435+0000) > > Funnily enough, Riot isn't there simply to please you and you only. So no, they aren't going to revert something just because a few people hate changes. > > Obviously they aren't super balanced yet and they have a learning curve. **That's the point of preseason**. The chance these changes get reverted completely or even reworked heavily is next to 0. The dragon buffs will stay basically the same - they will play with numbers to balance. The dragon souls will stay basically the same - they will play with numbers. > > So if you're unwilling to get used to 2 random dragons then repetitive of the same type, and getting a soul+elder spawns after one team gets 4, then you should just quit now and save yourself the time. So i realized when i posted this, shortly after i was wrong. I embrace change, but they souls + elder is OP right now. It puts too much pressure on bot / jg without any outplay potential if you get the soul + elder. I do hope riot atleast adjusts how dragons work a little. I decided to keep the post up just to hear feedback though.
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Silnari (NA)
: Have you not seen how much they are releasing/working on? im fine with them removing pointless/underplayed modes if they make new games/modes. also make urf permanent
YES! MAKE URF PERMANENT (or a custom game option)
CurS1VE (NA)
: good question, that champ is forgotten but tbh i didn't look up his stats before i posted this. i cringe every time that champ is locked (unless it's on the enemy team, then i'm like GGEZ)
> [{quoted}](name=CurS1VE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GUk6qn17,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-17T05:26:13.406+0000) > > good question, that champ is forgotten but tbh i didn't look up his stats before i posted this. > > i cringe every time that champ is locked (unless it's on the enemy team, then i'm like GGEZ) He has been forgotten, and he has a really low win rate. I think he deserves some love.
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: > [{quoted}](name=Applepieohmy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8dc5W4df,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-11-15T22:52:22.840+0000) > > Riot hasn't released any stats ever. No chart or anything showing the numbers. Just words. And they would have a reason to lie about that because....?
> [{quoted}](name=Wilk Rycerz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8dc5W4df,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-11-15T22:56:30.096+0000) > > And they would have a reason to lie about that because....? To make people want it that much more? If people truly enjoy it as much as we can all see on the forums, then its a supply / demand type ordeal. If they take it away from us, it'll make people want to play the game more when it comes back out. Pretty simple.
: > or its because people enjoy URF more than norms / ranked and would rather play it If that’s the case, then there would be a corresponding rise of players when the mode releases. Then, if the same number of players both join and leave, then that would be a net zero effect to the game population. However, if *more* players leave then just those that logged in just for URF, then that’s a net loss to players. Riot’s statistics indicate that it is the latter Scenario.
> [{quoted}](name=Wilk Rycerz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8dc5W4df,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-11-14T22:47:47.189+0000) > > If that’s the case, then there would be a corresponding rise of players when the mode releases. Then, if the same number of players both join and leave, then that would be a net zero effect to the game population. However, if *more* players leave then just those that logged in just for URF, then that’s a net loss to players. > > Riot’s statistics indicate that it is the latter Scenario. Riot hasn't released any stats ever. No chart or anything showing the numbers. Just words.
: Looking at the amount of threads that complained about URF no, people didn't enjoy regular URF.
> [{quoted}](name=Lauchmelder,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8dc5W4df,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-14T22:31:37.978+0000) > > Looking at the amount of threads that complained about URF no, people didn't enjoy regular URF. I'd say you're not entirely wrong, but mostly wrong. lmao. There are far more posts on the forums requesting URF come back. Id be content with RGM period coming back, not just URF. But riot is lazy. They want league to die. Thats what it feels like to me personally.
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: lmao rito more concerned with keeping people sane.
> [{quoted}](name=preternatural,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3lcFhjRZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-11-12T02:22:15.155+0000) > > lmao rito more concerned with keeping people sane. How so? By releasing skins and not balancing champs?
: You're not the first person to try making a petition. Riot gives literally zero fucks about the petitions people make when they have very clearly stated they do not want to make URF permanent ever.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3lcFhjRZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-11-12T02:20:54.839+0000) > > You're not the first person to try making a petition. Riot gives literally zero fucks about the petitions people make when they have very clearly stated they do not want to make URF permanent ever. Eh, ive been making posts about URF being at the very least a custom game mode for years. I'll continue. I feel strongly about it and wont stop.
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iiGazeii (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Arkantosprime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aGQNBEQH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:26:40.569+0000) > > I don't see any evidence behind this but the fact Riot repeats it over and over again. I and every single person on my friends list on multiple of my accounts in different regions including IRL friends all disagree. We all still play ranked, along with urf as a break. The fact its been removed again with again no actual solid evidence of the numbers they consistently claim boggles my mind, the fact players keep regurgitating this same argument in defense as well is even worse. Keeping it even as custom would of been a decision showing Riot cares of the opinion of its players outside of money backed, alas once again they fail, also just gonna put the very obvious out there, there are so many money/skin/etc possibilities with urf, they just have horrible decisions What reason would they have to lie about it? If URF had a neutral or positive impact on the game and served a valuable purpose by giving players a way to blow off steam, then they would want to keep it around instead of devoting programmer and developer time to putting it up, balancing it, maintaining it, then taking it down again. If you don't trust what they're saying, why would you trust a graph or spreadsheet they would post as evidence? Or would you need to look at the raw data first-hand to be satisfied? Riot is a company. You can absolutely trust that a company will act in its own best interest. These kinds of decisions are looked over by dozens of people, from PR to market analysts to designers. If they're willing to disappoint the playerbase by taking URF away, then you must assume that they do so only because they think that is what's best for League as a whole
> [{quoted}](name=iiGazeii,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=aGQNBEQH,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-11-10T03:39:34.678+0000) > > What reason would they have to lie about it? If URF had a neutral or positive impact on the game and served a valuable purpose by giving players a way to blow off steam, then they would want to keep it around instead of devoting programmer and developer time to putting it up, balancing it, maintaining it, then taking it down again. > > If you don't trust what they're saying, why would you trust a graph or spreadsheet they would post as evidence? Or would you need to look at the raw data first-hand to be satisfied? > > Riot is a company. You can absolutely trust that a company will act in its own best interest. These kinds of decisions are looked over by dozens of people, from PR to market analysts to designers. If they're willing to disappoint the playerbase by taking URF away, then you must assume that they do so only because they think that is what's best for League as a whole Supply and Demand. They take it away so people crave it. Theres not a chance in hell it hurts their game. It is arguably the most fun RGM they have.
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: They stated it wont be on live servers for patch 9.18 so many times. ALSOOOOOO, it's on the PBE again.
> [{quoted}](name=TheLastShadow45,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RttFoodu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-09-11T21:27:36.451+0000) > > They stated it wont be on live servers for patch 9.18 so many times. > > > ALSOOOOOO, it's on the PBE again. well I cant read so I didn't know, but thank you for taking the time to tell me :D
: Riot specifically said before it started that this is an early test due to the PBE being otherwise free at the moment. URF will come later, possibly after worlds.
> [{quoted}](name=MagicFlyingLlama,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=RttFoodu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-11T20:43:08.054+0000) > > Riot specifically said before it started that this is an early test due to the PBE being otherwise free at the moment. URF will come later, possibly after worlds. OOOOOOOOOOOO, ok. I cant read English so I didn't see that. thank you!
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: So is riot working to fix these errors on pbe?
Wellllllllll, being that its been going on for two days straight now, I doubt they are doing anything.
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: been nearly a week you're late
> [{quoted}](name=PrettyGirlsFeet,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K1IhRRBH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-09-01T04:18:54.064+0000) > > been nearly a week you're late dang really? I guess its because I was focusing on Classic WoW re-releasing.
: > [{quoted}](name=Applepieohmy,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K1IhRRBH,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-09-01T02:04:40.588+0000) > > i know this, i really don't care what version of URF it is.. its better than their normal game mode. Fair enough, I guess. I can't stand random modes. Aram, ARURF. When I'm playing a game, I want to choose who I want to play and not get stuck with playing someone who's boring/unfun/or just someone I don't like. Also I know the gamemodes obviously aren't meant for tryharding and winning. But for myself I always want to try and win, and it's the biggest FeelsBadMan when the other teams are **stacked** and you're team is not great.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Valor NA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K1IhRRBH,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-01T02:14:34.475+0000) > > Fair enough, I guess. I can't stand random modes. Aram, ARURF. When I'm playing a game, I want to choose who I want to play and not get stuck with playing someone who's boring/unfun/or just someone I don't like. Also I know the gamemodes obviously aren't meant for tryharding and winning. But for myself I always want to try and win, and it's the biggest FeelsBadMan when the other teams are **stacked** and you're team is not great. I mean I understand that part. "lost at champ select" but that's the beauty of it. sometimes you get shit stomped, sometimes its the other way around. I don't know I enjoy it regardless. a lot of stuff is funny.
: 'Cept it's ARURF, unfortunately.
> [{quoted}](name=Best Valor NA,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=K1IhRRBH,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-09-01T02:04:09.338+0000) > > 'Cept it's ARURF, unfortunately. i know this, i really don't care what version of URF it is.. its better than their normal game mode.
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: Everyone in my last game just jumped up to over 40,000 ping until the game crashed and now I can't reconnect, lol.
GOOD LORD LOL. im so sorry that happened.
: same here steady increase. I normally have like 16 -17ms now it sticks at 64ms since this morning.
: i have it too from 30ms to 70ms stable. i know two others that have it, all of it started last night.
love the name LMAO, but yeah im seeing so many forum posts about it.
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: TBH, back when URF was out I realized that I was having fun. And then I realized that I hadn't had fun in a long time. It was definitely a catalyst for me quitting. There's no more drive to play when you're aware that you aren't having fun anymore.
> [{quoted}](name=A Swarm of Koala,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-22T00:58:01.412+0000) > > TBH, back when URF was out I realized that I was having fun. And then I realized that I hadn't had fun in a long time. It was definitely a catalyst for me quitting. There's no more drive to play when you're aware that you aren't having fun anymore. yeah and that's what riot either doesn't see, or refuse to believe. that URF is actually better than their own game.
: I only ever come back to league because of URF. After URF is back I play it til it’s gone and then I don’t touch league ever until it comes back again. I wish they brought it back at least every 3 months and I didn’t have to wait a year every time I wanna play it!
> [{quoted}](name=Support Baymax,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-21T22:03:31.763+0000) > > I only ever come back to league because of URF. After URF is back I play it til it’s gone and then I don’t touch league ever until it comes back again. I wish they brought it back at least every 3 months and I didn’t have to wait a year every time I wanna play it! This ^ this is the real reason people left league. THEY ENJOYED URF MORE THAN THEIR ACTUAL GAME.
Kazekiba (NA)
: They dont make it permanent because URF's main draw is the new spin on SR and burn out drives people away as well as anything else does. URF was only ever meant to be an April Fool's event
> [{quoted}](name=Kazekiba,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-21T17:18:35.876+0000) > > They dont make it permanent because URF's main draw is the new spin on SR and burn out drives people away as well as anything else does. > > URF was only ever meant to be an April Fool's event That's what riot tells you. Is that "it drives people away because they get burnt out." People just realized that's its a lot better than regular league, and THATS why people left. Those same people also COME BACK when URF is released again.
Nazgul10 (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=1wolfpack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T16:57:27.234+0000) > > or too many game modes could increase the time it takes to get into any game. Yeah, but URF is arguably the most loved and anticipated gamemode in the community. It is quite literally so popular that it hurts the game when they remove it. They say they don't release it that often because it hurts their playerbase but never actually thought of making it permanent? I personally would never play normal LoL if that happened.
> [{quoted}](name=Nazgul10,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-08-21T17:14:46.251+0000) > > Yeah, but URF is arguably the most loved and anticipated gamemode in the community. It is quite literally so popular that it hurts the game when they remove it. They say they don't release it that often because it hurts their playerbase but never actually thought of making it permanent? I personally would never play normal LoL if that happened. exactly. I would play normal LoL a lot less and URF a lot more.. still the same amount overall. They removed it and it hurt them that one time because it players realize something. And now they wont bring it back because they have no competition and wont listen to their community.
: or too many game modes could increase the time it takes to get into any game.
> [{quoted}](name=1wolfpack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=fg4jEnZ5,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-21T16:57:27.234+0000) > > or too many game modes could increase the time it takes to get into any game. Or, hear me out, that's false? millions play this game, they can increase / decrease servers. not complicated for a random game mode.
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: {{sticker:vlad-salute}}
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Tuxedo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JRFyKia5,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-20T01:12:00.420+0000) > > {{sticker:vlad-salute}} Make URF a custom option <3
Phreak (NA)
: <3. Thank you for playing!
> [{quoted}](name=Phreak,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=JRFyKia5,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-19T23:56:38.545+0000) > > <3. Thank you for playing! Make URF a custom option <3 thank you in advance.
Slim Şhady (EUNE)
: MasterEUW/Chall EUNE Yasuo on buffing Yasuo
I'm just here to say, BRING BACK URF.
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soodow (NA)
: URF?
GIVE US URF OR GIVE RIOT DEATH!
: Hey! Don't call them out, they'll maybe bring back URF for a day or so next year so..Yea.
> [{quoted}](name=Freeza with an I,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rIOdQ9uM,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-19T08:32:04.188+0000) > > Hey! Don't call them out, they'll maybe bring back URF for a day or so next year so..Yea. @LeagueOfLegends DEV TEAM @RIOT @GOD
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Proxy345 (NA)
: URF is just pointless and stupid with the current state of the game, I used to love URF back in the day when regular matches were on average 60 minutes,but now regular matches are roughly 30 minutes or less and URF matches are done in like 10 minutes.
> [{quoted}](name=Proxy345,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=F1EB9bOy,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-17T21:59:55.899+0000) > > URF is just pointless and stupid with the current state of the game, I used to love URF back in the day when regular matches were on average 60 minutes,but now regular matches are roughly 30 minutes or less and URF matches are done in like 10 minutes. your opinion.
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