: I don't do well as tanks... There I said it. Sorry.
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=yOPyg54y,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-12-26T01:13:02.460+0000) > > I don't do well as tanks... There I said it. Sorry. He's not so bad! You could always try him as a hybrid fighter, that'd be fun!
: > [{quoted}](name=Aqwafina,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=yOPyg54y,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-12-25T22:59:22.322+0000) > > Are you suggesting Shen is more of a duo partner? It makes sense. He's more of a team player. If you have a team of cooperating team members, then great. If you have a team of solo queue individuals, odds are he won't be very successful.
> [{quoted}](name=DracoMTA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=yOPyg54y,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2015-12-25T23:03:23.774+0000) > > He's more of a team player. If you have a team of cooperating team members, then great. If you have a team of solo queue individuals, odds are he won't be very successful. I agree with you, but I also haven't tried him with a more damaging build and masteries this season. I wonder how that will work out,
: Because you can ult in and watch as your teammates run away. You can engage, taunt their carry, 100-40 him, and watch as your team walks away to let you die. He's strong, but he has no solo carry potential.
> [{quoted}](name=DracoMTA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=yOPyg54y,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-25T22:50:07.987+0000) > > Because you can ult in and watch as your teammates run away. > > You can engage, taunt their carry, 100-40 him, and watch as your team walks away to let you die. > > He's strong, but he has no solo carry potential. Are you suggesting Shen is more of a duo partner? It makes sense.
Rioter Comments
Sukishoo (NA)
: > easiest mage to learn with built in sustain I'm sorry but his difficulty is a 7, that's not exactly "the easiest". You want the easiest mage look for Morgana (who is a level 1)
Morgana is a 1? That's suprising since she has a skill shot and Vladimir is literally point and click. Sometimes just key pressing, his ult is his only "skill" shot if you can even call it that.
: I will try him once he is on free rotation again. Though I think I would build him like this: {{item:3116}} {{item:3152}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3020}} {{item:3151}}
That's a solid build, the boots are interchangeable with lucidity
: Never had the chance to that's why. Seriously that is it.
Give him a try, literally the easiest mage in the game.
: I do not have the skill set to compare both you and their videos together so I chose to ignore the request to give an explanation. I find the comparison to be obvious, others might but others would be more suited towards comparing them so ask them not me. I was just here to insult your lack of originality. Nothing more. I actually tried to give you an explanation but nothing I wrote came out right. I don't know what you expected from a single sentence insult though...
> [{quoted}](name=HalloweenDeath,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-14T15:58:45.142+0000) > > I do not have the skill set to compare both you and their videos together so I chose to ignore the request to give an explanation. I find the comparison to be obvious, others might but others would be more suited towards comparing them so ask them not me. I was just here to insult your lack of originality. Nothing more. I actually tried to give you an explanation but nothing I wrote came out right. > > I don't know what you expected from a single sentence insult though... Ah, well that explains it. I guess I should expect unprovoked insults instead of constructive criticism in the "Concepts and Ideas" section of the League Boards. Have a nice day.
: So what do you find unique about your videos?
> [{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=00010000000100000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-14T14:22:29.615+0000) > > So what do you find unique about your videos? The video in itself is not unique (admittedly), but I do them from my perspective on the champ with some of my videos going into the masteries I use, which I don't see often. I also don't go into runes (which is commonplace) because these videos (while meant to spread information) aren't supposed to be overly educational.
: Well he did say the famous ones. There aren't A LOT of famous people doing it. Also, you did not ask what you can do differently, or any type of advice. You simply replied, "they don't own the rights to highlighting champions". So no, it doesn't make sense to me. Make videos til your hearts content, but don't post them if you don't want/can't handle the criticism.
> [{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=000100000001000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-14T14:12:56.211+0000) > > Well he did say the famous ones. There aren't A LOT of famous people doing it. Also, you did not ask what you can do differently, or any type of advice. You simply replied, "they don't own the rights to highlighting champions". So no, it doesn't make sense to me. > > Make videos til your hearts content, but don't post them if you don't want/can't handle the criticism. I reread the comment, he did say popular youtubers. I could have been more perceptive. Pile the criticism on though, I would like to get better at this. I suppose I don't count saying "Carbon Copy" as constructive criticism, but I shouldn't expect in-depth criticism from anyone and that's my fault.
: Him telling you that you sound like a copy of those people doesn't exactly need an explanation....it is what it is. You should be able to understand what he means by "you sound the same as everyone doing this already". It's not a difficult concept lol. Doing it for fun is all fine and dandy, just don't be surprised when people point out that you are a carbon copy of everyone doing this already.
> [{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2015-12-14T13:59:18.507+0000) > > Him telling you that you sound like a copy of those people doesn't exactly need an explanation....it is what it is. You should be able to understand what he means by "you sound the same as everyone doing this already". It's not a difficult concept lol. > > Doing it for fun is all fine and dandy, just don't be surprised when people point out that you are a carbon copy of everyone doing this already. There is an inherent problem with saying that "you're sounding like everyone doing this already" and that's that there are ALOT of people doing this. Some in informative ways and some in not so informative ways. It's within his right to not explain himself, I just asked for an explanation (i.e, what can I do differently) because although I am having fun with this I would like to keep this series going for a couple more champs before I end it. Make sense?
: No, he is right. There is not one single part of this video that I found unique or refreshing in anyway. Whether you attempted to copy them or not, you certainly don't stand out. It's pretty much beating a dead horse at this point, the act has been done.
> [{quoted}](name=PDE5 Inhibitors,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2015-12-14T13:52:47.163+0000) > > No, he is right. > > There is not one single part of this video that I found unique or refreshing in anyway. Whether you attempted to copy them or not, you certainly don't stand out. It's pretty much beating a dead horse at this point, the act has been done. I can imagine I don't stand out among the measurable amount of people who have already done this, but I did these on champions I liked or requested of me for friends and not necessarily to stand out. I had fun in making the videos and so I posted them here after, I just asked for an explanation instead of word flinging.
: Because I don't play to just win?
> [{quoted}](name=Catastrop,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-12-14T13:42:55.601+0000) > > Because I don't play to just win? I see what you're saying, but he has a lot of counters especially with the anti healing items. His easy kit I think works well at low ranked play, but I imagine that higher ranked player easily see through him.
: I didn't say you should stop doing what your doing so your defense of saying "They don't own the rights" is a very stupid thing to say to such criticism. What I said is that you are very very similar to those youtubers. It has NOTHING to do with you making league of legends videos. You are a fucking definition of the word "Carbon copy" of their channels. Try to spice your channel up a bit more. Keep making champion spot lights but change some stuff up. Don't be so similar in every way. Edit: The fact that I haven't even hinted towards what channels I'm talking about but you and everyone else knows instantly what ones I'm referring to should let you relies how fucking similar you are.
> [{quoted}](name=HalloweenDeath,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2015-12-14T13:41:54.878+0000) > > I did say you should stop doing what your doing so your defense of saying "They don't own the rights" is a very stupid thing to say to such criticism. What I said is that you are very very similar to those youtubers. It has NOTHING to do with you making league of legends videos. You are a fucking definition of the word "Carbon copy" of their channels. Try to spice your channel up a bit more. Keep making champion spot lights but change some stuff up. Don't be so similar in every way. I'm not being defensive, but you are or you seem to be agitated by your cursing in the post. I just explained to you what I do, since all you said was that I was a carbon copy. In what way am I a carbon copy other than in highlighting champions? My videos aren't nearly as long or informative (aside from maybe the Galio one, which still isn't really informative). So explain yourself instead of throwing around words for the sake of, otherwise it's not criticism.
: You sound like a carbon copy of some very popular league of legends youtubers. I think we already have enough of those people...
> [{quoted}](name=HalloweenDeath,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=3JZsbVIj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-12-14T08:25:55.788+0000) > > You sound like a carbon copy of some very popular league of legends youtubers. I think we already have enough of those people... I'm sorry, though I know our content is similar because it's league related, they don't own the rights to highlighting champions. I just look at champions I don't see often and make videos about them.
Rioter Comments
: Why I haven't played him: Never had the chance to. =/ Why I haven't gotten you Gatekeeper {{champion:3}} : I am NOT made of money.
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=tYAA1O5k,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2015-12-06T23:50:25.459+0000) > > Why I haven't played him: Never had the chance to. =/ > > Why I haven't gotten you Gatekeeper {{champion:3}} : I am NOT made of money. And here I thought I could pluck dollar bills off you.
: its all sounds good on paper, but only half as good in game, also his Ult needs a bigger range also being melee doesnt help bot lane support, as much as being ranged would, and hes slow
> [{quoted}](name=FlameHalbrdOkido,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=tYAA1O5k,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-12-06T23:17:25.400+0000) > > its all sounds good on paper, but only half as good in game, also his Ult needs a bigger range > > also being melee doesnt help bot lane support, as much as being ranged would, and hes slow Yeah, I was waiting for someone to say this. No matter how good it sounds on paper he's to reliant on a comp that helps him pull this off. I hope this video (and other) can push riot to give him a bump of some sort in the right direction.
: No he sux
> [{quoted}](name=LilQuacker,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=tYAA1O5k,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-06T17:49:06.206+0000) > > No he sux I think if he's in a CC oriented team he can do well, but that would require communication since he relies a lot on flash to make plays.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Swiftness: Grants 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 15% tenacity and slow resist. Besides that correction... I don't own him or had the chance to play him. =( Random thought: {{item:3157}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3027}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3065}} ? Not sure on sixth item. XD
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rYExhInQ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-27T19:11:13.911+0000) > > Swiftness: Grants 3 / 6 / 9 / 12 / 15% tenacity and slow resist. Besides that correction... I don't own him or had the chance to play him. =( > > Random thought: {{item:3157}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3027}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3065}} ? Not sure on sixth item. XD Hey! I meant swiftness so you don't slow down, not that it speeds you up. :P That build, however makes me think you want the other team to find some kind of rock to hide under and never come out for fear of flying AP powered anchors.
: Idk why Nautilus isn't a top tier jungler. So much ganking power and brings lots of early damage to those ganks too.
> [{quoted}](name=Lordnewb,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rYExhInQ,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-11-27T19:45:17.941+0000) > > Idk why Nautilus isn't a top tier jungler. So much ganking power and brings lots of early damage to those ganks too. Agreed! If you go mobility boots on him you don't even have to hook first which means almost always a guaranteed flash.
: I really enjoy these videos, would you mind making a zed one in the near future? edit: i looked for one but couldn't find it, so if it is made and I'm just blind, could you direct me to it?
> [{quoted}](name=Islandpoet,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=rYExhInQ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-27T19:10:36.825+0000) > > I really enjoy these videos, would you mind making a zed one in the near future? > > edit: i looked for one but couldn't find it, so if it is made and I'm just blind, could you direct me to it? I can absolutely make a zed one, thanks for your input! I have a couple I'm working on...but I don't wanna spoil it >_>
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
DrSorrel (EUNE)
: I love malza and i don't know why people don't play him
> [{quoted}](name=DrSorrel,realm=EUNE,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-11-22T17:32:59.040+0000) > > I love malza and i'm asking myself about this too WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR, GO PLAY HIM
: {{champion:90}} build that I use: {{item:3071}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3174}} (or {{item:3165}} ){{item:3146}} {{item:3040}} {{item:3512}} Seriously nobody expects your voidlings to hit like trucks. And when they do... Well... You can go ahead and start laughing because now they really have to decide: Get rid of the Voidlings (Malz passive) or take out Malz. Either way they WILL take serious damage. Especially when you have about 45% CDR in conjunction with the Cunning Tree. Getting out 2 or more Voidlings becomes really easy. Even worse: They proc {{item:3116}} slow passive and {{item:3071}} armor shreading passive on EACH attack.
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=000000010000000100020001,timestamp=2015-11-21T06:03:07.560+0000) > > {{champion:90}} build that I use: {{item:3071}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3174}} (or {{item:3165}} ){{item:3146}} {{item:3040}} {{item:3512}} > > Seriously nobody expects your voidlings to hit like trucks. And when they do... Well... You can go ahead and start laughing because now they really have to decide: Get rid of the Voidlings (Malz passive) or take out Malz. Either way they WILL take serious damage. Especially when you have about 45% CDR in conjunction with the Cunning Tree. Getting out 2 or more Voidlings becomes really easy. > > Even worse: They proc {{item:3116}} slow passive and {{item:3071}} armor shreading passive on EACH attack. Bow Hunter, I'm gonna attempt this build and make a video on it later if you'd be so inclined to join me :)
: My favorite combo is W But no one lets the game go long enough for me to get enough ap for it to work
> [{quoted}](name=7ha7guy777,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=00000001000000010002,timestamp=2015-11-21T05:31:18.258+0000) > > My favorite combo is W > But no one lets the game go long enough for me to get enough ap for it to work Lol, grab a Liandri's and a rylai's! Watch enemy tanks flee in terror....or just walk out of it and throw an axe at your face.
: Well i appreciate the advice really, but i was talking about why ppl dont play Malz in general, its cuz he is easy to counter. I love playing malz.
> [{quoted}](name=Stephenizgod,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=00000001000000010000,timestamp=2015-11-21T04:41:42.810+0000) > > Well i appreciate the advice really, but i was talking about why ppl dont play Malz in general, its cuz he is easy to counter. I love playing malz. I understand where you're going, but Malz also easily counters a very good champion pool. Swain, Vlad, Ahri, just to name a few.
: Just as he said on your comment: > [{quoted}](name=Aqwafina,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2015-11-21T01:51:42.087+0000) > > I absolutely agree, but you run that risk with a plenty of champs. You're saying you're not gonna play any of them just cuz other people will buy QSS? It absolutely depends on the other persons skill and your timing IMO. I also don't see people buy {{item:3140}} or {{item:3139}} in matches I use him in. Even after I tell them as an opponent no less giving sound advice to buy QSS after they told me his Ult is stupidly OP due to its Suppression, they still don't take the simple advice I gave them DURING the match. Though learning to use his abilities in different orders can end up being really good to help you. Example: Start with E at level one. Use it to help you farm and keep your mana up. Whenever a Voidling appears it will auto aggro something with his "Space Aids" as a higher priority then whatever you auto attack. And even if you don't auto a Voidling will target whatever is closest to it. Voidlings' attack priorities (don't conflict with each other): 1. The target of Nether Grasp (Highest Priority) 2. The nearest champion affected by Malefic Visions 3. The nearest non-champion affected by Malefic Visions 4. The current target of Malzahar's basic attacks 5. The nearest enemy unit. (Lowest Priority) A combo I use for getting a kill is: E --> Q --> W --> R & {{summoner:14}} Not Q --> W --> E --> R & {{summoner:14}}
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=0000000100000001,timestamp=2015-11-21T02:48:14.078+0000) > > Just as he said on your comment: > > I also don't see people buy {{item:3140}} or {{item:3139}} in matches I use him in. Even after I tell them as an opponent no less giving sound advice to buy QSS after they told me his Ult is stupidly OP due to its Suppression, they still don't take the simple advice I gave them DURING the match. > > Though learning to use his abilities in different orders can end up being really good to help you. Example: Start with E at level one. Use it to help you farm and keep your mana up. Whenever a Voidling appears it will auto aggro something with his "Space Aids" as a higher priority then whatever you auto attack. And even if you don't auto a Voidling will target whatever is closest to it. > > Voidlings' attack priorities (don't conflict with each other): > > 1. The target of Nether Grasp (Highest Priority) > 2. The nearest champion affected by Malefic Visions > 3. The nearest non-champion affected by Malefic Visions > 4. The current target of Malzahar's basic attacks > 5. The nearest enemy unit. (Lowest Priority) > > A combo I use for getting a kill is: E --> Q --> W --> R & {{summoner:14}} Not Q --> W --> E --> R & {{summoner:14}} This is why I enjoy playing Malz, a lot of people will opt for not buying something easily available ( for some reason).
: yes but Malz is counter easier than most thanks to QSS and hard CC. Also teammates can make or break Malz depending on how they react to his ult
> [{quoted}](name=Stephenizgod,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2015-11-21T01:35:26.466+0000) > > yes but Malz is counter easier than most thanks to QSS and hard CC. Also teammates can make or break Malz depending on how they react to his ult I absolutely agree, but you run that risk with a plenty of champs. You're saying you're not gonna play any of them just cuz other people will buy QSS? It absolutely depends on the other persons skill and your timing IMO.
: because he is easily counterable?
> [{quoted}](name=Stephenizgod,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=cVoPVJIZ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-21T00:16:14.592+0000) > > because he is easily counterable? Everyone has a counter. It's all about the person behind the champ, even the really easy champs.
Rioter Comments
: meh, don't care for archangels. doesn't really have a spammable ability outside of his ult, and you already wait on rod of ages to stack, having another thing to stack on him feels too long for me. I'd rather go for zhonyas and sorc boots for movement speed and the ability to ult in stasis
> [{quoted}](name=LadyRenly,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2015-11-19T18:09:28.047+0000) > > meh, don't care for archangels. doesn't really have a spammable ability outside of his ult, and you already wait on rod of ages to stack, having another thing to stack on him feels too long for me. I'd rather go for zhonyas and sorc boots for movement speed and the ability to ult in stasis Agreed, this is why I usually build they way I mentioned earlier. There are certain things that are interchangeable (like liandri's for morello's or something) but other than that I would rather build him on the tankier side.
Aqwafina (NA)
: Why Haven't You Played Swain?
If you're saying Swain has bad wave clear then you haven't played him past level 6.
: {{item:3123}}
> [{quoted}](name=NyX Reks,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=00080001,timestamp=2015-11-19T13:40:31.065+0000) > > {{item:3123}} Like I said, that item is great, but ADC's usually itemize a little differently and if they can't stay away from his burst that item won't really matter. I get ya though, it should be a go to whenever there's a sustain mage in the other team comp.
: I personally don't play Swain because I can't cs for my life on him. On the flip side I am GLAD no one plays him. I honestly have no idea how to play against good Swains. They obliterate anyone gets near and he's so hard to kill with his R. I honestly have no idea what to do vs him:/
> [{quoted}](name=ShatteredSkys,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2015-11-19T07:30:12.790+0000) > > I personally don't play Swain because I can't cs for my life on him. > > On the flip side I am GLAD no one plays him. I honestly have no idea how to play against good Swains. They obliterate anyone gets near and he's so hard to kill with his R. I honestly have no idea what to do vs him:/ The trick to playing vs is swain is to not get hit with Nevermove. The moment his misses that it's time to harass him pre-six, but the same can be said after. It does the burst damage for him and he'll finish you off with his ultimate and torment after, so the moment he uses it for anything other than hitting you make sure to get as much harass on him as it is on a pretty long CD.
: "in pvp" Implying that you normally play bots?
> [{quoted}](name=N30NP4NDA,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-19T07:01:30.520+0000) > > "in pvp" > Implying that you normally play bots? I'm not sure where you heard that...
Fowus (NA)
: his AA's feel really weird to me
> [{quoted}](name=fowus2happy,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2015-11-19T01:28:05.792+0000) > > his AA's feel really weird to me His AA's have a slight delay which makes it difficult (atleast for me, and I main him) to last hit. Feels kinda like leblanc, but slower.
: EVERYTHING sounds better in your own head face it. I just call it [Shift Al Mani](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMdww9QW2aQ). But the origin of the idea comes from [Disco Heat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36ccUR-eqc).
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2015-11-19T00:29:33.759+0000) > > EVERYTHING sounds better in your own head face it. I just call it [Shift Al Mani](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMdww9QW2aQ). But the origin of the idea comes from [Disco Heat](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J36ccUR-eqc). Oh my god I love League of Children, I can't believe I hadn't seen that video.
: His range is a little low for my tastes and i can't really last hit with him
> [{quoted}](name=7ha7guy777,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2015-11-19T00:34:31.187+0000) > > His range is a little low for my tastes and i can't really last hit with him Nevermove has a pretty long range, and I usually run hybrid pen runes to help with my last hitting. You should give him a try again, he's such an underrated mage.
Aqwafina (NA)
: Why Haven't You Played Swain?
Bow you should add me and we can try your build vs other people. We'll call it Hexylai's Cleavezahar...or you know we could not....that sounded better in my head.
Crett (NA)
: I don't play him so as to spare everyone the horrible experience of playing against him
> [{quoted}](name=Crett,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2015-11-18T23:44:07.588+0000) > > I don't play him so as to spare everyone the horrible experience of playing against him BUT FREE LP BRUH
: That makes sense. Though the idea for mine was basically like my {{champion:90}} : How much of a nuisance can I make myself be? And still have fun? (relative to my kind of fun) Thus the creation of my Malz build! XD
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2015-11-18T23:48:41.729+0000) > > That makes sense. Though the idea for mine was basically like my {{champion:90}} : How much of a nuisance can I make myself be? And still have fun? > > Thus the creation of my Malz build! XD Malz is a jerk to me most of the time. His space-aids just hampers Swain so much. I took one look at your build and cringed thinking of how much trouble I'd have fighting that.
: Because I'm sure everyone would hate me for this build idea i have for him... {{champion:50}} : {{item:3027}} {{item:3040}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3065}} At level 18 {{champion:50}} will have 3373 maximum mana with this build. And 3% of your max mana is converted into AP. In this case you will net about 101.19 AP just from the Unique passive of Seraph's Embrace. Not to mention all the AP he gets from the items base stats: * {{item:3116}} = 100 AP * {{item:3027}} = 80 AP (with passive 120) * {{item:3040}} = 80 AP (total with its unique passive increase from other items in the build 181.19) * {{item:3151}} = 80 AP Ending total: AP 481.19 give or take depending on Runes and Masteries...
> [{quoted}](name=Bow hunter 16,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-11-18T23:24:11.051+0000) > > Because I'm sure everyone would hate me for this build idea i have for him... > > {{champion:50}} : {{item:3027}} {{item:3040}} {{item:3116}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3110}} {{item:3065}} > > At level 18 {{champion:50}} will have 3373 maximum mana with this build. And 3% of your max mana is converted into AP. In this case you will net about 101.19 AP just from the Unique passive of Seraph's Embrace. Not to mention all the AP he gets from the items base stats: > > * {{item:3116}} = 100 AP > * {{item:3027}} = 80 AP (with passive 120) > * {{item:3040}} = 80 AP (total with its unique passive increase from other items in the build 181.19) > * {{item:3151}} = 80 AP > > Ending total: AP 481.19 give or take depending on Runes and Masteries... Although I like the idea of using Archangels, my build usually ends up being something like: {{item:3027}} {{item:3157}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3151}} {{item:3001}} {{item:3020}} And if there are healing mages like {{champion:103}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:9}} I'll usually go for {{item:3165}} somewhere in there.
: You trade lots of for mobility, huge sudden burst,rage, and weak early game "like that auto attack delay messes me up to be honest" for easily sustained tons of damage and "tankiness" from healing. He can be bursted down or ranged down early/late so its just hes mainly enemy/ally team comp reliant. Also I enjoyed the video! {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
> [{quoted}](name=biologist11,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=28Mdeyxv,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-11-18T23:32:52.001+0000) > > You trade lots of for mobility, huge sudden burst,rage, and weak early game "like that auto attack delay messes me up to be honest" for easily sustained tons of damage and "tankiness" from healing. He can be bursted down or ranged down early/late so its just hes mainly enemy/ally team comp reliant. Also I enjoyed the video! > > > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} You got it right on the nose! That auto attack delay makes me feel like I'm just terrible at farming most of the time even though Swain is probably my champ with the highest win rate. I think mid game is definitely his strongest suit because if you have a liandri's most tanks will have a hard time with you and if you have any hard ap items finished then most squishies have to stay out of range or risk getting bursted by Torment+Nevermove+Ravenous Flock. Also I'm glad you enjoyed the video!
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: Why Haven't You Played Swain?
I actually like archangels staff on swain, though admittedly I use a very boring standard build most of the time.
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