: I feel like you're reaching here a little bit. Saying things like "This armor suggests this!" when I've looked at these splasharts a million times and never even had a hint of what you're talking about. Want to know why they probably look "too human"? They're the castoffs. They are most likely much earlier PROJECTS, discarded after a better method was found. The only thing I can agree with is that I don't really think jinx should have an exposed stomach, the reason being if you're in cybernetic gun fights why in the world would you want any part of you unprotected.
Okay why do the "monsters" (since that is the _core_ theme of this set of skins) look human though. They should all be as extreme as WW and Pyke.
: Riot doesn't decide the popularity of champions, we do by playing them and buying the content made for them. For example, the more we buy Lux skins and play Lux, the more Lux skins we're going to get, because Riot sees that she makes money because she's popular. Stop trying to make it a sexism issue, because its not.
I mean Riot does influence popularity when they ensure a continuous stream of content for players who play popular champions. Sure people might play Lux or Vayne more, but you also ought to recognize that of course people are going to play Lux or Vayne when they get consistent balance/gameplay/skin/promo/art content and champions like Warwick do not. I'm not saying its all or even mostly Riot's fault, but they most certainly play a role in encouraging what characters are popular.
: > [{quoted}](name=Script or Stack,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=dwojsIY7,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-07-16T02:47:11.072+0000) > > How much power did xerath have in ancient shurima? Was he respected? He didn't have any power. He was a slave.
Wow you must not have read very far in his lore because he literally became the top adviser of Azir himself and was an extremely powerful arch mage.
: Lack of a Star Guardian Event this year
Unfortunately Riot only has so much time for so many skins in the year. I doubt they wanted to skip SG but they have to prioritize things in order to make sure they schedule themselves properly.
: Goodbye cancer ranged top picks
The Neeko MS nerf doesn't feel very necessary I am sad about that.
: The only thing coming near would be that magic is able to let champions communicate in some form, but that isn't an option for everyone, obviously. And most interactions between champions of not the same origin most of the times comes down to conflict. Champions don't need witty comments to fight each other.
Okay but most short stories do not include champions fighting each other. And if you ever want to have champions from different regions talking to each other, there needs to be a sort of common tongue between nations. Otherwise you get what is effectively the same thing but worse where everyone just happens to speak each other's language when convenient.
Pale Mask (EUW)
: Runeterra has many languages, it's just that everything (except for a few select quotes that are meant to demonstrate the Runeterrans' various tongues) is translated into English for the sake of convenience. Most champions probably wouldn't understand each other. Interactions are necessarily hypothetical, so I wouldn't worry too much about it.
There is most likely a form of common tongue or something to that effect. Otherwise you limit canon interactions in the lore too much.
: 2 or 3 full years since Riot themselves did it.
: Man we really don't need more skins. We need nerfs and balanced in summoners rift. Pyke already ahs two skins since last year, please riot just stop making skins and focus on the gameplay?
Do you expect the artists to drop what they are doing and go work on gameplay? Skin production has no influence on gameplay.
: If Ryze can get an awesome trailer...
I mean this would be awesome but those shorts take months if not a year+ to make and the Ryze cinematic was important for expanding the lore and preparing him for Brand's lore update. A Yorick cinematic like this would be mostly eye candy to visualize the world.
: What obvious reasons could those possibly be? I can't imagine why anyone would downvote that. /s
I mean people post waifu barely SFW images here but the only differences is that most of the boards is straight dudes.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: They do it at worlds, so why not here as well? Beside the Worlds skins, the K/DA are the 1st one I know of for being selected by someone else and not Riot, so showing they let people chose can give them a good rep.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=daz0wGTo,comment-id=0002000000030000,timestamp=2019-07-07T17:04:44.268+0000) > > They do it at worlds, so why not here as well? Beside the Worlds skins, the K/DA are the 1st one I know of for being selected by someone else and not Riot, so showing they let people chose can give them a good rep. Esports skins don't have huge promotional art peices, guaranteed prestige skins for each, an amazing music cinematic video, merch, and aren't animated into a musical concert at worlds. Esports skins are not as big of a money maker as KDA. There was way more hype and work out into them. If one of the singers had picked Poppy or Leona they would have been denied because they don't fit the theme nor the audience as well. I don't understand how not letting your proffesional artists pick who gets a K-Pop skin would give Riot good rep. I haven't seen any of this good rep either.
SpectreF4 (EUNE)
: Arclight Thresh(old concept)
This just looks like white/golden thresh tbh. You can do more with the Arclight theme than this.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: Also K/DA being a skin for her because the girls who made the song chose her. In the end: - Riot made 2 skins for her: - - Bullet Angel - release skin - - Arcade - 2 skins were made because Kai'sa was chose and Riot had to comply - - IG - obvious reasons - - K/DA - the girls chose her Rumble was never part of team skins because no-one cares about him, and when it comes to others choosing champs for skin, Rumble isn't just....good. He's a rat in a robot, there's not much you can do with him other than making his robot look differently, even so there's nothing that makes him stand out one skin from another, no good thematic to make him stand out. Super Galaxy? High tech mech. Jungle? Robot made of wood....ok. Rumble is just one of those champions that you can't make good skins for. Kai'sa on the other hand has such a simple base design that she can be placed in anything and look good.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=daz0wGTo,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-06T16:17:42.016+0000) > > Also K/DA being a skin for her because the girls who made the song chose her. > > In the end: > - Riot made 2 skins for her: > - - Bullet Angel - release skin > - - Arcade > - 2 skins were made because Kai'sa was chose and Riot had to comply > - - IG - obvious reasons > - - K/DA - the girls chose her > > Rumble was never part of team skins because no-one cares about him, and when it comes to others choosing champs for skin, Rumble isn't just....good. > > He's a rat in a robot, there's not much you can do with him other than making his robot look differently, even so there's nothing that makes him stand out one skin from another, no good thematic to make him stand out. Super Galaxy? High tech mech. Jungle? Robot made of wood....ok. > > Rumble is just one of those champions that you can't make good skins for. Kai'sa on the other hand has such a simple base design that she can be placed in anything and look good. Riot most certainly played a role in choosing which characters got KDA skins. They would not surrender such a significant event and profit to the hopes the singers picked good characters.
: Feel old yet Arakadia?
Lewanor (NA)
: I'm saying it because he was reworked too
Right but lorewise I don't understand why he shouldn't be included after his rework.
: Cho'Gath VGU Concept #2: The Great Maw
This is a wonderful modernization of both his kit and how the Void's fantasy manifests in game. Looks fun but not at the cost of design health or stability. And arguably most important of all you were able to retain the important parts of Chogath whilst amplifying the most fun parts. Nice work :)
: Briefly, yes, but by the time he showed up to the Blessed Isles where the altars are he was well into "terrible person" territory.
So the quote still makes sense as it refers to his glory days. Although it would be weird for the alter to have known about that part of his past.
: a company like riot shouldnt forgot to delete like 2 lines of code from the game. it aint that fucking hard
> [{quoted}](name=MrPlatypuss,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=E6xkVHh4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-07-01T22:28:13.116+0000) > > a company like riot shouldnt forgot to delete like 2 lines of code from the game. it aint that fucking hard Nobody said it was too hard.
: Was Twisted Treeline ever intended to be canonical? It feels doubtful.
It was intended originally but it's gone through multiple waves of being uncanon.
: 'Cause it's old. It's also got quotes to Hecarim telling him "Remember who you once were," except with his current lore who he once was was a terrible, terrible person.
Before Hecarim was a terrible person he was an honorable warrior though.
Lewanor (NA)
: They'll probably announce the removal of Twisted Treeline sometime this year. If I remember correctly Evelynn still has quotes said against her in it too, so does Yorick. They don't touch TT.
Why would Yorick not have anything to do with TT?
: I hate that the report sysytem is automated. If i run into a seriously toxic player I send a ticket. I don't trust those god damn machines. >:(
> [{quoted}](name=AMADEUSdotEXE,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Kt12rR7A,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-02T04:50:01.924+0000) > > I hate that the report sysytem is automated. If i run into a seriously toxic player I send a ticket. I don't trust those god damn machines. >:( People report so frequently though that you have to filter at least some of the reports via machines.
Terozu (NA)
: Well on PBE blitz didn't max out the server load. Neither did it have 9 hour queue times due to game volume. Ergo, TFT has already had a higher player count.
I don't think they use the same servers. This is an assumption that may be correct but is not confirmed.
Lewanor (NA)
: *The guy that made me... He was pretty good, right?* *Tragedy is worse when you can do nothing about it.* *It's hard to be a symbol, when you've got a soul.* *They made me to stop magic, and yet I hate when it's gone.* *It's not easy when everyone looks up to you.* *Going to sleep means saying goodbye.*
These quotes exist but the vast majority of quotes played in game amount to HELL YEAH WOOOO!
SatoKun (NA)
: Winter Wonderland Neeko Splashart Discrepancy
Wait I never noticed this either wtf. Thats so blatantly weird its kinda really strange.
: D&Dyr (Dungeons and Dragons themed Udyr
I like the idea but that name could use some work.
Terozu (NA)
: Fun fact, TFT has already proven far more popular. So... tough luck? Sorry.
Could you drop a source for that because thats pretty interesting to hear?
Voidner (EUNE)
: Okay Riot, i get it... You can't make a gamemode that isn't luck based
Its because RNG is a easy way to make each match different with unexpected and "exciting" changes.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Yes, but not to the point where you cannot recognize the champion right away. For a launch skin in general it's going to be something that has to stay somewhat similar to the champions base so that people can tell who it is as they get used to the champion being in the game. The Tahm Kench launch skin for example, they said they had the idea of the Cheshire Cat for him instead of his Chef Skin. It was too different from the base look that they said they'd do something like that later. So this as a launch skin, this is a tricky one cause the concepts have various iterations and the one they chose still has a similar look to her base that you can tell it's her. Later on they might do something a bit more extravagant / bizzare looking on her as people will have already had an established idea of who she is, and how she plays so it won't be as jarring.
I mean they've broken this 'rule' before and could totally do it again. Look at Elderwood Bard.
: We should have gotten a Dark Star event. Hes how I would make one
They aren't going to put DS Chogath back on the store. You were supposed to buy it in the store to support the charity, when they add it back it should be hextech exclusive.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=w7okAJ0i,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T15:24:59.585+0000) > > She is dressed like a stripper, lol. Give me one reason that's a bad thing
There are a few reasons its bad and they basically all come down to her current design largely fails to communicate who she is. Stripper outfit might sell skins but it doesn't sell her character or theme as an evil sorceress, it doesn't communicate that she is Ionian, nor does it convey how she's an ancient and bitter. Sex appeal is fine, but in Syndra's case its the only thing in her design and we need more of actual Syndra's personality, history, and character in her design.
: > [{quoted}](name=Arakadia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=1lAQAY5J,comment-id=000a000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-20T04:20:09.389+0000) > > And considering none of them probably have her body type, there is even less of a reason when these people are usually masters of perspective and anatomy. If they're "masters" of perspective and anatomy, why does her back and neck look broken? Riot doesn't always use set artists. They will commission their splash arts from different artists, and they don't always get stuff right. Just because you do something for a living, doesn't mean you're 100% perfect at it or that you can get it right every single time. Riot could've had the artist make Caitlyn's back straighter which would've helped with the neck, hell they could've done a straight SIDE VIEW and they wouldn't have the issue with her neck, and they still could've got what they were aiming for. You don't need to bend your back into an awkward angle to hold or shoot a gun. If you are, you're holding it wrong. Leaning back also isn't that awkward if you're sitting on a comfortable stool, and can be held for a few seconds to get a quick picture. You don't need to do an entire photo shoot to get a picture to use as a reference. All you need is an easy to see picture that is close enough to what you want that someone can use it to make what you want. It's why it's called a reference and not a "trace this picture".
> If they're "masters" of perspective and anatomy, why does her back and neck look broken? First of all, I said _usually_. Key word there. Second of all, _as I said in my first comment_, this was most likely not an oversight but a sacrifice for the sake of making her boobs and face visible. Professional artists use reference where they need it and I personally suspect it was not needed for this pose.
: Looking at the splash art, it looks less like she's flying back and more like she just knelt down to ult or is running forward. If she was flying backwards, the jacket would be wrapping around her body, not flapping behind her. They easily could've done a reference just by having someone running around holding a fake gun or having them standing/kneeling like that with a fan blowing on them for the jacket.
These artist neither need reference for this kind of pose nor is it realistic for them to get a fake gun, set up a super strong blowing fan that will blow a jacket just the way they want it to, and sit in the incredibly uncomfortable leaning back pose she is holding there that realistically could only be held for a few moments. it would be much more difficult then you think to get all the props together and try to set up this whole composition in the real world rather than just draw it out. Especially when we know Riot goes through a variety of sketches where they already picked the pose and composition. And considering none of them probably have her body type, there is even less of a reason when these people are usually masters of perspective and anatomy.
: I wonder what happened to the reference photos Riot [claimed](https://nexus.leagueoflegends.com/en-us/2017/03/making-a-splash-with-reference-photos/) to use a couple years ago to make their splash arts. If they stopped then they should really go back to that, and if they haven't I'd really love to see the reference photo for this splash.
Riot's artists 100% use reference photos on all their splasharts. The reference photos where the artist took a picture of themselves/another artist for a pose aren't always necessary and in this case it would be very difficult to achieve a picture of the artist flying backwards mid are with a gun. The anatomy is fucked on the splashart but it's not because lack of reference imo. It's because they wanted to show her boobs and face. If her boobs were higher up where they should be and her head/neck in the right position, you would not be able to see as much of her face and boobs.
Terozu (NA)
: They just sharpened the image raised the collar and upped the breast size wtf?
The sharpened image is just the difference between the resolution of the images picked. It's not an actual change. Also the neck slightly is angled towards her general torso area but it is still very much so anatomically incorrect.
: The position is unnatural, but it's completely possible. It's humanly achievable, but it's just like Sivir where it's an incredibly uncomfortable position to see the character "resting" in.
This is not achievable unless you have terrible scoliosis AND boobs that are really far down your torso.
: They should put the two right next to each other. They are almost identical other than the color/style.
Both of them have fucked necks but Prestige is more noticeable because boob window and clothing difference.
: Going to play devil's advocate here but they probably are against moving her head (and therefore her neck) due to how the head is supposed to line up with the scope of the gun (and also be "behind" the stock from a perspective sense). It's not drawn and I have no evidence that they did, but I can only assume in concept sketches and rough drafts, that they have lines on how caitlyn's eye would have to line up to peer into the scope properly, and that to re-draw either the gun (which is like half the image) or the head would be too much work (compared to redrawing her chest).
Her eyes are actually not lined up with the gun and lining them up would fix the neck. They wanted to show off more of her chest and face and putting the gun in the way would prevent that.
: Actually wanted to use it in a collage for a tattoo :3 But I was on a time crunch and this is what we ended up using/doing https://ibb.co/XjGmMm4
: A Couple of Shortstories Based on My Hopes For Fiddlesticks' VGU
What the fuck Wygol was awesome. Can't wait to read And Then There Was Silence but Wygol was so well paced and built up and Fiddle Sticks being The King was so awesome.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Prestige Caitlyn Splash updated!
So her neck didn't move. Which means her boobs/top of her chest are still super long and her spine is super fucked to accommodate for it. However they slightly edited the angle of her neck so that it is at least pointed more towards her torso. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/451454411084922892/590602858274095107/prestige_caitlyn_2.png
: Precisely! Voidborn are all unique, with no relations to one another other than the fact that they were made by the same stuff. Although, with Cho'Gath I wonder if a tool can become self aware... or surpass their intended purpose and choose one of their own?
I remember the original prompt for The Iron Giant was, "What if a gun was alive and didn't want to be gun?". Now Cho'Gath is nothing close to benevolent but the idea of a tool becoming self aware or surpassing its intended purpose is really cool and kind of the best possible route for a Voidborn imo, especially Cho'gath.
Azwel (EUW)
: Her classic model looks dull. Face looks butchered. Old one was alot more charming and had more style. Also she lost most of her "assets".
It sounds like your criticism can be reduced to "she isn't as hot personally". Which is not an important trait for new Fiora. Not sure what you mean by she has less style, she pushes "style" a lot further than old Fiora beyond the anime parts. Old Fiora was more charming though, because new Fiora is a mean bitch tbh.
: Had a feeling that would be the case but wanted try the long-shot anyway. Would you happen to have the artists name or possibly a way to get in contact with them? Would very much like to stick to the original concept as much as possible
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/LxPqk This is the artist's art station. As Moonboy65 said, you could try contacting Kelly Aleshire for information. Maybe she would release the concept sketches for you. Not sure if shes allowed to. Why do you want an extended version of the splash, if I can ask? Do you need it to be a different ratio size or are you just looking for more Lil Devil Teemo content if its available? You could probably do a simple edit with some app to have it just fade into a black background at the edges, otherwise depending on how much you want this you might want to consider looking for an artist to expand the splashart (probably would want to be commissioned unless you know the person personally).
: I've questions about the official skin artwork for certain champs, where do I direct my questions?
Most likely there is not a an extended version of the splashart. I've never seen that done outside of conjoined splasharts and it would probably not be done by an artist in their free time because it would be messing with official art. I checked and it doesn't look like the splashart illustrator released the concept sketches on her art station, so if you want to edit it larger you'll just need to improvise.
Azwel (EUW)
: Anyone still hates Fiora's new model?
What do you not like about it?
: I Don't Like Yuumi's Skin
I don't like it either but thats because it doesn't pander to my demographic which is fine. Hopefully the next one is a bit more up my alley.
: New Dark Star skins are awesome! BUT where's the Jhin Chromas??
I don't think legendaries get chromas. Its not like Jhin is lacking in content though.
: That's because, at least according to the Wiki, Morde ult has a range and it also requires the enemy to be targetable. So the Vayne probably tumbled out of the range and/or the tumble considered her untargetable since she was invis. That's just my guess though, I haven't played Morde yet so I can't really say much about whether or not that's a bug. >.<
Losing sight of the victim does cancel it. I canceled an enemy Morde ult as Neeko by pressing W.
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