Airwaves (NA)
: So many people just quit the game
I don't URF but I definitely know people who are excited for it.
: What's one thing that Riot did right or you like?
Top thing I have seen Riot do lately was the 10 year anniversary rewards.
: Riot should punish trolls harder
For the amount of money Riot makes they could definitely have more humans looking at the troll issue.
: Please Add The Option To Mute Champion Voices
Because someone spamming the same words 50 times adds to League overall and makes people want to return.
IPERFECTO (EUW)
: Youtube just went even lower to the bottom with their shit...
There is actually a lawsuit against Youtube from a University about this very subject. What they claim to be and what they are is heavily censored now. Its pretty sad to see an American company with so much censorship, and then people acting like Google is your friend or something. Its basically about hiding certain truths the government has deemed not acceptable to talk about, and to force a narrative to believe what they want you to. The way they have gotten around lawsuits so far is burying your posts so many pages deep they can say they are still there, just highly unlikely anyone will ever see them. People need to stop blaming China for their problems and start looking closer to home.
KABLUMP (NA)
: Don't blame urf for dropoff, many of my friends quit due to FOMO burnout
I don't get compulsive spending, you don't like what you got, but you spent anyways. This is indicative of a larger problem, consult a therapist.
: they banned my account and i had over 500 dollars worth of skins
Seriously how stupid do you have to be to sink hundreds of dollars into something and then be a toxic troll with it? Here let me save you some money. Learn to control what you say. Damn I just saved your job your marriage and your family life on top of it. I doubt you will be grateful.
Quáx (NA)
: NA ping is so frustrating to play
No its completely linked to when they moved the server, before then it worked well, but hey they saved 20 cents and like any typical corporation they switched. It has been like that ever since, and I have heard it from many people. On the other note they could always stop people from playing in the wrong region which either leads to a disconnect or them lagging out usually. Ask yourself how does that happen when its such a obvious problem, you too will come up with its obviously to make money.
Rioter Comments
X3N0N (NA)
: I finally understand why people think that the matchmaking is so bad.
You haven't seen anything until you see higher tier people intentionally losing ARAMs because the automatic Summoners Rift to MMR setting set them higher than they wanted to be.
: Revert champ collection
This is called change for the sake of change, and its very common in the corporate world. Basically someone needs a "reason" to keep their job so they change things needlessly to have a reason to keep it. This isn't about better, otherwise it would have never been implemented.
: Reminder: Unlock all champions for ARAM
If people own more accounts, Riot can potentially make more money. How exactly does them losing money, when they are a business, in any way a good decision? Do you really need a better reason than that?
: Reminder: Unlock all champions for ARAM
So you want to take the fun out of Aram? Hey why not have them play a whole different game altogether? Some people play Aram to compete, some people play for fun, nobody is playing for rewards. All playstyles can fit in the same category. The larger problem you see is people with vastly different MMRs being smushed into a single group.
: Why everyone is ragequitting even in ranked now?
Toxicity at what seems a all time high. Congrats.
GigglesO (NA)
: No Defense = Poor Gameplay
Its not that I don't just feel im not playing strategy anymore, I feel actually unhealthy playstyles like inting are now actually encouraged. They actually promote an unhealthy playstyle and are surprised that the communitys toxicity is growing fast. League isn't for experienced gamers anymore, its for entry level gaming.
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p76qcNsv,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-17T21:59:19.427+0000) > > Everything you need to know about League > > Watch a pro play game, announcer says "i just consider Zoe totally broken right now". "Watch as she can literally hold back an entire team". > > When things are so broken even the announcers cant cover for it anymore. Games from last year don't count. Veigar is a bigger threat than her half the time and honestly has a way stronger kit in general
> [{quoted}](name=MankeyMadness,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=p76qcNsv,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-03-17T22:25:46.732+0000) > > Games from last year don't count. > Veigar is a bigger threat than her half the time and honestly has a way stronger kit in general That quote was from last week, not from last year. When is the last time you saw Veigar played in proplay? just lol When people are afraid to take an honest look at the game they play.
: Ranked Games AKA Flip Coin Challenge
The average IQ needed to find League as a fun and rewarding experience has dropped off a cliff. Enjoy your new "family" Oh gee why has trolling increased so much? Yea really takes a dev to figure that one out.
: Rune shards give a disproportionate advantage toward offense over defense
Game has completely become dive and first damage and to hell with any sustain or tank. Basically meaning if you are looking for a game where you counterplay and have a meaningful rewarding experience, then you come to the wrong game. IQ for League is falling off a cliff. Playing with 12 year olds over and over (or at least people who sure could be confused for) is not fun, and trying to get people to play other than inting when it is rewarded isn't possible anymore. Entire experience isn't fun anymore unless you are amused by stupid things.
GigglesO (NA)
: Why aren't we nerfing Riven, Vayne, Zed.
Everything you need to know about League Watch a pro play game, announcer says "i just consider Zoe totally broken right now". "Watch as she can literally hold back an entire team". When things are so broken even the announcers cant cover for it anymore.
: why is there so much throws????
But if I win then I get harder opponents. Where if I throw the game I can roflstomp newbs and get easy chests.
: Out of 6 ranked games 3 of them were trolled today.
Trolling way up Caring way down Then theres the players.
: About the need of /remake in Aram
Player: Hey dev can you add something to Aram? Dev: Whats Aram?
: Recent Surge of Trolls
Game unfortunately going down hill fast, with devs who openly admit they don't even play (probably don't watch either). All game tactics have been reduced to who hits first, defense abilitys and counterplays destroyed. Thinking went in a trash can and when the general audience feels the game developer doesn't care they have no problem doing the same. Think of it like this, if you go to a restaurant and you KNOW you wont be returning, do you really care about it or everyone else who thinks its great? Or do you want to scream this place sucks and leave?
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-03-01T05:20:32.037+0000) > > Did you just defend Riot by saying "The lore team and art team communicates", When the actual team that matters doesn't communicate? > > How exactly is that helpful overall of anything? So you are saying we can play a shit game as long as its pretty? > > This is how a company looks when the people in charge are afraid to replace people. some people only see what they want to see... you're a prime example of that.
> [{quoted}](name=The Trent,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=WZlafc6z,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-03-02T04:22:12.129+0000) > > some people only see what they want to see... you're a prime example of that. You mean some people see the truth and that's a problem for people whos jobs depend on everyone overlooking. NO ONE should be a game dev that doesn't play at all, I don't give a F who they are. Would you like someone working on your car that has never drove? You remind me of my internet company that says "Whats League of Legends?". The company whose employees have no idea what they are working for works as expected.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Fix your broken game, Riot
This makes League look bad, especially if Draven is a pro play champion. There is no excuse for a champion who is played so often to be so obviously bugged. It just makes people not want to play at all.
zerksir (NA)
: I found a boosting cult.
When you have blatantly obvious cheating like this going on for YEARS and really never addressed you need to take notice. This group of people is literally taking the money out of Riots pocket but they still do nothing. Do you even see an option at the end of your game for reporting bots? Have you ever seen any countermeasure discussed or implemented for this cheating? Its not new Instead they provide a means to change your name so when they bot up to where they want they can change the name and sell the account. Don't just be wary of obvious cheating, be wary of those who don't oppose it, because then you realize the gaming company who you are most like is EA.
GigglesO (NA)
: Revert penetration formula...
League has turned into a game of I don't want to play that role. No one really wants to play top lane because its no longer effective unless you are playing the blessed 3 champions No one wants to play support because you are basically a servant to adc and cant really perform on your own. No one wants to play mid because unless you are on Zed its lame and ineffective. This leaves almost all the action coming from 2 roles in the game. Then they wonder why people quit and don't want to play League. Hey I know a solution how about more champions that turn invisible that there is no counter for because why just ruin Summoners Rift when you can ruin Arams too. Or the REAL solution you will see...more true damage to everyone. Remember when League was about counterplay? It appears management will only realize its error when the playerbase numbers fall off a cliff. League is dying, mostly because the playerbase has deemed it so. The game doesn't need to physical die to be deemed dead. It just has to generally be accepted as not what it used to be and pretty much everyone is at that point. The final coffin nail will come when a game like it that is actually balanced comes out. It is far easier to get others to play a "new" game then retry one that's been broken for a while.
: It's so much easier to call out first timed rankers now
It might be good for you, but whenever Riot actually analyzes that decision and gets their head out of their ass they will remove it. Making weak players pointed out in the beginning of a game does not make for player retention. But hey I love a company that kills itself, its almost more entertaining than the game.
: Patch 9.4 in a nutshell. Frustrating champions edition.
I wish Riot could see some of the ARAM Zed games lately where 1 Zed effectively destroys the entire team from early game on. Now you might try to question the skill of the people but I can assure you they were not all new. Ask yourself how much fun playing League those 5 people were having losing to 1 champion constantly for 15 minutes? Zed is making the game less fun overall especially unlike all the other champions has distance and a whole lot of it.
TaienV (NA)
: Make Aram Fun Again Please?
You could try to stop Aram accounts but it wont work overall and would just create a negative experience. People who think they can play any champ and you should take whatever will pretty much always lose. People are going to dodge games regardless if you limit their selection at all. Instead of making everyone play crap champions perhaps you should have a easier time getting a not crap champion.
: They do and they have? They do play tests every single day... Also why are you trying to imply all rioters don't make connections with the community? The lore team talks to us a lot and so does the art team. The shout casters talk to us a ton and some of the champion designers are very active and stream. Did you even put effort into looking for these rioters or did you want one to walk to you? Riot literally has partnerships with league youtubers too to help build the community... Like who you tryin' to fool sis? Yourself? Seems like it worked lmao.
Did you just defend Riot by saying "The lore team and art team communicates", When the actual team that matters doesn't communicate? How exactly is that helpful overall of anything? So you are saying we can play a shit game as long as its pretty? This is how a company looks when the people in charge are afraid to replace people.
: Vayne is the number one ADC and has been since 9.3 while tanks and juggers simaltaneously suck shit
True damage ruining League, uncounterable mechanics diminish it as a whole. I don't know who is in charge of balance of lately it has really taken a turn for the worse, League better pray a game closer to it than DOTA2 doesn't come out because they will be screwed.
: 0 respect whoever spamming GGEZ
Punish them Riot, there is absolutely no sportsmanship involved with these people, stop letting the toxicity fester.
: I hardly ever am bothered by bm but today it felt personal
Actually there is a legit privacy concern and the whole looking up the people you are playing with before a game isn't a correct practice either.
: Apex looks to be taking Fortnight's Crown by purely being a better game. Maybe that's Leagues Secret
Apex first looks like many other games I have played while Fortnite not so much. Also Apex is made my EA which everyone knows = fail in the gaming industry unless they are making Madden for the 18th time.
Taulsas (NA)
: Am I the only one?
Player count WAY WAY WAY down, and because of this you will get less modes less often due to not enough people being able to fill. Also you will notice people in your games no where near your MMR. Sign of a dying game is the first attempts to force others to not recognize it.
: Yasuo is a pain.
League dies a little more each time balance is given over for "fun"
: Tanks SUCKS, building armor feels horrible, champion that are not tank killers are tank killers.
Riot knows how bad Riven and Yasuo are, but apparently balance is something that lost players is going to have to teach them. League of Legends now 3rd on Twitch perpetually and that's below 2 first person shooters, they now have so many people they can split the audiences and be ahead in population. As population dwindles lets hope Riot learns balance or they will learn unemployment.
Tolinar (NA)
: I'm a support main, stuck in bronze... Here are ten things I wish I could stop shouting at my team
Support is the role that will truly make you hate playing summoners rift overall. No matter how well you do, how correctly you ward and poke and save the adc you are unable to win the game overall and are at the mercy of whoever you play with. So it all comes down to blind luck if you get people who aren't horrible and randomly get the chance to climb or have to fester in a rank with other people. Of course the rest of the team is having a blast, because they matter. Meanwhile the role is being autofilled 80% of the time. Why? The people who actually played the role quit. I know I did. Just another completely obvious reason individual ranked is a horrible toxic infested anger filled messed of people more interested in smurfing than actually climbing. I mean why would they want to climb theres no team to be made so its just easier to mess with people below you.
: Zed overkill at pro play from 100-0
The whole stupid amount of damage on champions that go invisible is starting to make me not like League anymore. I mean stupid damage and basically untargetable? When exactly does the fun start?
: Okay, apparently we can get demoted while playing on other roles
Ranked is the thing that makes people quit League.
VileKayn (NA)
: Why I hate that people don't play for fun anymore
winning is fun losing horribly not so fun
: Matchmaking in this game is really shitty, I thought it was supposed to be based on skill-level?
The whole your MMR is meaningless every new season is just a headache to everyone. There should be reward for working out of lower people but every year they punish everyone by making you play with them again. They almost intentionally seem to set their population up to be trolled annually. I cant explain the thought process in this, and im sure they didn't think it through either. Other reasons could be the population has dropped so severely they have to mix large varietys of ranks together now because there is no longer an adequate amount of people to fill it normally in a normal manner.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=0004000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T00:17:04.673+0000) > > While warwick is nice to be the tank of the team, his vision is a nice plus but there are better tanks to play than him, trundle either really, sure Trundle could carry as a ad, but then hes probably not tanking so much at that point. > > I think people who constantly dive and die need a justification that hey they got that kill so it was worth it. Sure diving has its place but diving in and giving 4 assists to get your kill isn't usually helpful. > > I am not saying don't use every champion several questionable ones can still be used each game, but you cant make the whole team questionable champions it doesn't work. You don't have to only play a certain group of champions but there has to be a limit to how much is acceptable, and on who, because you can be on a bad champion and be useful but you cant change people to understand when they aren't being useful because their score says otherwise. Never said full AD trundle, trinity+ tiamat into tank (sheen or tiamat can be usefull until a completed relevant defense item) is enough damage to deal with a squishy if you can get to them (ala bruiserish trundle). Sure there are better tanks but you don't __***Pick***__ your champ your given a random one and have to use that to the best of your ability. The way you win games is through objectives (well towers as there are no dragons) and you dont deal much damage to towers if the lux ult and E's clears the minion waves every 20 or so seconds. I'm not complaining about people playing bad champs it can't be helped and they may be better on them than an S or A tier champ their unfamiliar with( ive played yasou who is good but I sucked and would have been more useful on evelynn that game), im complaining that ARAM only accounts that have such an unfair advantage and it culminates in such BS and unfun matches with a select few always S-tiers repeadidly in them.
> [{quoted}](name=wolvius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=00040000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-15T17:34:42.601+0000) > > Never said full AD trundle, trinity+ tiamat into tank (sheen or tiamat can be usefull until a completed relevant defense item) is enough damage to deal with a squishy if you can get to them (ala bruiserish trundle). Sure there are better tanks but you don't __***Pick***__ your champ your given a random one and have to use that to the best of your ability. The way you win games is through objectives (well towers as there are no dragons) and you dont deal much damage to towers if the lux ult and E's clears the minion waves every 20 or so seconds. > > I'm not complaining about people playing bad champs it can't be helped and they may be better on them than an S or A tier champ their unfamiliar with( ive played yasou who is good but I sucked and would have been more useful on evelynn that game), im complaining that ARAM only accounts that have such an unfair advantage and it culminates in such BS and unfun matches with a select few always S-tiers repeadidly in them. The point of Aram accounts is to play the best possible champion for YOUR ability, not just every powerful champ because they may not work for you. Why should people be forced with a bunch of champions on roles they would never play? The problem is you need to fill roles in Aram like poke or tower killing or usually some kind of tank, and having a roster full of people that do none of the above are pointless. While usefull in summoners rift, there is absolutely no reason to possess certain champions. Aram is a group game and your continued use of useless champions effects more than just yourself. You want people to not care about the game and just play anyone? Then lose, the lowest brackets are full of people that don't care about anything. But don't go around telling everyone they have to play your way, they obviously have chosen not to. Maybe you should take a note from the history League was founded on which is from Dota, which was Warcraft Frozen Throne being played in a way that was not intended. Not intended is a choice, and trying to make it by force into something it isn't will just make less of an audience. But of course playing bad champions constantly will lead to one result, many crashed games, which could be quite a headache. But solving that headache is more with you then changing everyone else.
: Kayle and Morgana Rework
Morgana rework? She is already played at a very high tier why would you rework something that is working? Kayle I really could care less what you do with him, including deleting him.
: > 2) There's no Tiers in ARAM... And tiers don't matter in matchmaking at all, they never do. All that matters is your mmr, your real rank. And Aram does infact have mmr. Sure players might be silver playing with a diamond player, that doesn't mean shit cuz this ain't SR. There's plenty of other things than mechanics and teamfight that decides who wins in SR, those things don't apply in Aram. This leads to possible differences in mmr on both. Idk how accurate Whatsmymmr.com is in actually checking your mmr but there's about a 500 mmr difference in aram's favour when i look up my account. this game for example: https://matchhistory.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/EUW1/3921843360/219017511?tab=overview the highest ranked player was diamond 4 the lowest bronze 2. Yi's the diamond player btw. Everyone else is between silver and gold. We all had to listen to this headass bitch about his silver teammates but he wasn't doing much. His build imo is pretty bad too, idk why you'd go static into rageblade and not either rush IE+Static or Botrk+Rageblade for actual synergy. I wasn't our highest impact member for sure but the only ones i'll say outperformed me were xerath and karthus, a silver and an unranked player. Fuck, if that headass had traded me jinx i'm sure we could've even won that match.
Thanks for the website it makes me realize wolvius the biggest complainer in here doesn't even play Aram AT ALL, lol. Imagine complaining for paragraphs and paragraphs on a subject you have no experience in. My mmr is 1647, seems someone plays more Aram than others.
Nawk (NA)
: -Widen the bridge about 5-6 feet and give about 20% movement speed base bonus so we can move with immobiles and move better with the ones that are mobile! (Assassins have no pressure! Other than 1/100 game rare OTPs *cough* {{champion:105}} PENTAKILL!! *cough*) -Remove the ''friendly heals cut'' AND {{item:3083}} and turn it into a ''support damage cut'' so they feel like support... soaking/healing/peeling and are not AP poke/zone/CC ''unstoppable godlike lengendary'' Ennemy missing ? ? champs! -Add some kind of ranked system so ARAM fans can keep playing the only mode that they like without ''its only ARAM'' last-sec-swapper/roleplayer/troll frustrating random player. (3 Tiers? like previously mentioned would be already huge) -Turret plating x10 on the ~~useless~~ first tower for ~~14~~ 10 mins? (Make the tower damage or attack speed scale like the mitigation?) OR **Turn em into Frozen solid Vel'Koz ulting killing machine** (Hi lore *winks*) so i dont tilt because i am the only one good at ~~staying in exp range~~ dodge ball in my team and we loose 2 towers if i die! Add those and i will FEED... Every poro i can, if i can... forever! (Wheres the **permanent** flaming hot poro pet from Nexus Blitz??) **TLDR**: We are super pretty Carnivores and hate to starve because of laser mounted loud and salty herbivores... Dont touch my RNG. EDIT: Just checked the view count, its obvious that ARAM is popular! Help ARAM! Riot please!
The people who complain about warmogs probably never play a tank. Warmogs has never been a problem unless the whole team is using it. People in higher rankings don't let people with warmogs just go in and out, they burn you down exclusively if you try to go in. Meanwhile Pyke is literally giving gold to his entire team and is just about the only invisible assassin that is still more powerful than any other invisible champion in the game, including talon. But if that's not enough he has a built in warmogs that just lets him heal when he isn't visible which on Aram is all the time. Riot has been moving to making invisible assassins harder and less of a cake walk, and they need to finish the job they started. There is no fun in any game where I cant see the opponent while I fight like Akali, vision is too important in League to give invisible champions too much power. Pretty sure the devs see it this way already or there would already be a real stealth assassin like Dota in League. The answer is not getting vision, because if you asked the far majority of people playing against someone like Pyke I am sure they would say they are having a negative experience.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=00040000000000000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T18:16:44.147+0000) > Just because divers have no escapes doesn't mean there bad if they can manage to zone or eliminate priority targets, you would probably agree warwick is a pretty bad aram champ but he still has his uses if you have a workable comp/know your win conditions for that matchup. Fearing/suppressing either vlad/fizz when they exit pool or when low enough they could be picked of by delaying their heal, disturb their combo etc. Or just zoning the ranged while my team dealt with vlad/fizz. Another squishy/ranged kaisa would have been reall useful in that match right and then the team would have no frontline to zone all because warwicks considered a "shitty" aram champ. Thats why I like trundle he actually has usefull team utility, impassable terrain+aoe slow, resist steal/shred (anti-aftershock lissandra as you take the percentage on cast, so they end up squishier than if it didn't proc for them) and something people forget enemy AD reduction (i miss -50ad for 8 seconds). But I guess I would be better off first timing viktor like hashinshion did in top-lane. Divers are useless because they cant escape after a kill?, some aram games are like chess you eliminate a valuable enemy by sacrificing a lesser unit? have you not experienced those games where the full melee team stalls long enough that they get tanky enough that they can win off one a few good engage by champ like alistar for the rest to follow-up and get in range to ace the enemy in an all-in. The amount of times as trundle i've ran up or snowball (3rd Q snowball morde is scary) to a relatively low cc, long range team just start clobbering one of them and retreat after killing/severly chunking them to regen to near full off his passive. Also the 3vs5 are rare but it aint just quitters there are games where people never connect due to internet problem or game starts before everyone loads in (rare but serverhamsters, has happened a few times to me along with worse server errors), then someelse has quit cause they didn't want to 4v5. There have been people on both sides with platinum rank (that is fairly high summoner rift rank wise? I dont recall the tier order cause i dont play ranked) that have afked/never connected. (I know there is a hidden MMR for aram thats why u never see bots after a while,_for most anyway_) > [{quoted}](name=Saevum,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=0004000000000001,timestamp=2019-02-14T21:58:01.344+0000) > > You are supposed to have fun in aram precisely because of RNG. You wont win everything. > > The problem are Aram Only accounts. Which kills the purpose of the RNG and kills the purpose of experimenting champion kit combos or ult combos. Makes it one sided and boring. This guy gets it, also you learn more about champs you would never play, like morde E giving a set shield value per enemy hit on-top of the damage dealt part or that the W's causes the random healing. (I knew he had healing but never what caused it) It was actually quite fun bonking people.
While warwick is nice to be the tank of the team, his vision is a nice plus but there are better tanks to play than him, trundle either really, sure Trundle could carry as a ad, but then hes probably not tanking so much at that point. I think people who constantly dive and die need a justification that hey they got that kill so it was worth it. Sure diving has its place but diving in and giving 4 assists to get your kill isn't usually helpful. I am not saying don't use every champion several questionable ones can still be used each game, but you cant make the whole team questionable champions it doesn't work. You don't have to only play a certain group of champions but there has to be a limit to how much is acceptable, and on who, because you can be on a bad champion and be useful but you cant change people to understand when they aren't being useful because their score says otherwise.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-02-14T17:22:13.471+0000) > > You mean you like playing some of the worst possible champions in Aram then get mad when you lose. Stop using horrible champions and expect some kind of win rate. > > You really would use Nidalee as your only serious poke? On top of that you let your only adc be Quinn and then theres bard whos range is just ass. You don't get to accept a horrible team comp and expect to win, that's not even trying, unless you are playing with new people. > > There is only 1 overpowered champion in Aram and that's Pyke and I have no doubt at some point he is destined for the nerf machine. Do you know what ARAM stands for: All random all mid, dont really have a choice with the team comp when you dont have rerolls. Do you think I wanted to play Chogath VS that enemy team the only choice I can remember was Garen which would've been even worse in this case. I'm fine when I get Eve and trundle even against Bad odds because its fun nuking the shit out of the most irritating enemy as well as healing passive and trundle is fun because you can snowball and clober squishies. And where did I mention wanting to win every game with bad champs, I said **Fun** if you want to only play to win even when its miserable go play ranked, playing reksai and getting carried by your team for doing nothing isnt fun or interactive, Wining because the enemy has two AFK's after 3 minutes of gameplay is boring. Facing Lux, zerath, cassio every second game is fuckin boring. Some of the most fun I've had was as all melee teams and we still lost but at least it was enjoyable and were close to winning. There is far more overpowered champs than just Pyke, some have one super weakness that cant be exploited but when two or more are on a team you cant abuse said weakness. Pyke is far from Op until late game hits, but at that stage there are far more powerful champs. Edit: Not every time Eve is available I pick her, since Dark harvest rework its not as fun as it once was (old darvest and E interaction). Also theres a reason all champs are available on ARAM and weakest not disabled, some people like the champs that Arent S tier or good enough at them that it can work if not facing bullshit ,if you care so much about your "ranking" go play ranked instead. Like I dont know how Hecarim is classifed as bronxe tier for aram he only suck if you go something stupid like predator instead of aftershock/Electrocute. When reworked dark harvest was originally op it made trundle fairly strong as he could get stacks quickly and have some decent damage without being too squishy. I'm fine playing with and against "S-tier" champs but the same champs every game over and over is so boring theres a reason there are over 140 champs in LoL and why do you think they increased the ARAM champ pool to include past 3-weeks of free rotation champs.
I tried to explain this is not an official ranking system, it is a lowering of opponents. No I don't get afks or cry babys who just quit in the first 5 minutes, that doesn't happen anymore. There is no reward for winning games outside of harder opponents. But that's where the fun is really at, because who wants to play low tier mindless Aram? This games champions are built for summoners rift not for Aram, with that said, I almost never see anyone playing cassiopea, her range is horrible and that matters a whole lot on aram. But I did have a game the other day where we had Lux Xerath and Ziggs all on the same team. I do not wish to play with junk champions or have them on my team, its a loss, and not worth the effort. How can you get mad about things like people afk when you constantly pick champions no one expects to win on? This does not mean because a champion is weak they are useless, I will still play Heimer but at least he has range. Low range mages are useless, champions who only hope of achieving a kill are diving are useless if they cant get out alive after diving. Theres a lot of useless going around Arams, its just identifying it on your side before the game starts. Also just because someone has a great champ doesn't mean they will perform, which is why you want everyone to at least be usefull overall.
wolvius (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Astrovert,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-02-14T07:27:27.168+0000) > > Aram is fine the way it is, if you don't like it make an Aram account and you will definitely have more fun. People who say that is bad think it is ok to play with 5 horrible champions for 20 minutes while being utterly destroyed and having no fun whatsoever. Or the ol hey we will just surrender in 15, that sounds real fun, accepting loss at the beginning. To those people I laugh you get mad when you lose when you accepted losing at the start. Some games you have absolutely no hope of wining though like there is no way that {{champion:31}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:76}} will win vs {{champion:99}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:202}} . Too much cc to overlap, great poke, as well as instant waveclear with lux ult. Supppression if an engage somehow happens. They had a nexus turret down before ff even became available at 8 mins. Some games aren't worth the aggrevation of playing when gaming is supposed to be fun. But then again I do like playing {{champion:28}} ,{{champion:19}} and trundle on ARAM. The only thing ARAM needs is tuning to knock-down cases like lux ult insta clearing waves every 20 seconds and a way to select some champs from your pool that you never want to play on aram for people with many unlocked champs. Or conversely certain champs are aram locked until you have a certain number of champs in your pool.
> [{quoted}](name=wolvius,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=uAMRgfEH,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-02-14T14:19:25.271+0000) > > Some games you have absolutely no hope of wining though like there is no way that > {{champion:31}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:42}} {{champion:76}} will win vs {{champion:99}} {{champion:74}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:202}} . > > Too much cc to overlap, great poke, as well as instant waveclear with lux ult. Supppression if an engage somehow happens. > They had a nexus turret down before ff even became available at 8 mins. Some games aren't worth the aggrevation of playing when gaming is supposed to be fun. > > But then again I do like playing {{champion:28}} ,{{champion:19}} and trundle on ARAM. > > The only thing ARAM needs is tuning to knock-down cases like lux ult insta clearing waves every 20 seconds and a way to select some champs from your pool that you never want to play on aram for people with many unlocked champs. > Or conversely certain champs are aram locked until you have a certain number of champs in your pool. You mean you like playing some of the worst possible champions in Aram then get mad when you lose. Stop using horrible champions and expect some kind of win rate. You really would use Nidalee as your only serious poke? On top of that you let your only adc be Quinn and then theres bard whos range is just ass. You don't get to accept a horrible team comp and expect to win, that's not even trying, unless you are playing with new people. There is only 1 overpowered champion in Aram and that's Pyke and I have no doubt at some point he is destined for the nerf machine. I also would like to say you will never play with me probably if you consistently play champions like that. Because I don't care if I have Ziggs or Lux or whatever. If other people take champions that are clearly worthless other than to try to take a kill so it can "look" like you were doing something I will just crash. Its funny because I bet you were thinking "i bet he really wanted to play Ziggs", which is true, but not with people that haven't figured out whats correct and what isn't. You kind of bring it on yourself and amplify it by intentionally playing with people others don't find acceptable. Seriously Evelyn seriously, your not even trying.
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