saltran (EUW)
: Nah, it's not about soloQ and I cant even play more until I fix my pc rip Its about how unbalanced he is for coordinated play, and I feel the same towards champs like Azir and Kalista, I dont have a special struggle on Ryze. To be more accurate, and continue the memes, what Ryze needs is a rework.
Riot refuses to 1) invest any more time in him 2) balance the power people complain thats overpowered (his W and R)
darkdill (NA)
: Teemo should have a Nearsight instead of a Blind
Blind doesn't anything against Ryze because it negates auto attacks, which Ryze doesn't do. Why does it have to negate spells? That would be too powerful. Additionally, if you're picking Teemo into a non-auto based champion, then you're asking to lose.
saltran (EUW)
: I want them to nerf Ryze unironically.
sorry, but if you're gold 2 losing to Ryze then idk what to tell you. you just flat out suck. I'm sorry you can't abuse MF or Cait vs Ryze but best of luck to you.
Madsin25 (NA)
: I can support this. If trundle can see a 50% WR on his best players ryze can too.
Riot's scum balancing has oppressed the Trundle community as well? The Ryze community stands with you.
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: For some reason I get shitted on by LeBlanc as Ryze any tips?
Most LeBlanc's telegraph their W by movement or using their Q. You have to be able to read it fast enough to react. As soon as I pick up the movement, I immediately E a low minion or E her and wait for her to use W. As she W's, I root so she can take as much minion aggro as possible, then I Q and get shield. Then lane becomes easy when you can read your opponent. LeBlanc is a very simple champion with simple combos but Ryze has a multitude of combos which are harder to read. If they play passive I shove the wave and harass them under tower once they waste W
: It's too hard to kill LeBlanc
Kai Guy (NA)
: YOU HAVE TO PLAY META AND COPY PROS OR YOUR A CRINGY SCRUB! <- meta slaves. Despite pro play being dedicated 5 man syenergy unlike solo que. Despite the fact a majority of players don't have the mechanical ability to use best case for champions. X IS META SO I PLAY THAT. 0 games spent trying to understand why a pick is strong, copy and paste builds, have 0 mechanics on their copy paste efforts. OFF META IS BAD! Despite the fact that off meta can be a better play pattern for folks and fit their style more. Despite that a better off meta pick to a meta pick is determined by how much they impact a game, not by how much they theoreticaly can impact a game. Better to be a Good kayle jungle then a Garbage lee sin.
>Good kayle jungle then a Garbage lee sin I 100% agree with this. The disappointing part is that they're simplifying champions, like Lee Sin, by implementing more damage into their kits to make them "easier" through flat strength rather than through mechanics.
SEKAI (OCE)
: And you think your personal anecdote trumps stats from millions of matches. Okay. If you're doing well in spite of the 44% win rate. Good for you. But ignoring the stats just because you personally are not affected by it is utterly dumb.
People actually don't know how to play Ryze effectively. He is very different from most other battle mages. I am making a combo video just to show why he is considered "OP" or a top tier pick for pros. People just dont have an understanding of how complex Ryze is
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Jamaree (NA)
: You just lost to a Rakan and Xayah combo didn't you?
Look, I have to ban either Yasuo or Ahri or Irelia or Akali. Xayah and Kai'sa always slip through because there slightly more tolerable. Xayah and Kai'sa with their broken ass support counterparts are intolerable but I can't ban sets of champions. I have played versus so many Xayahs and Kai'sas this week.
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Ralanr (NA)
: A full damage build with no pen against a tank with good MR. Yes that is supposed to be difficult.
I do not have this sort of difficulty versus other tanks.
Ralanr (NA)
: Sion has a strong early and Ryze has a weak early. This is intended.
Look, I get that you play Sion a lot and you like the champion but lets not get ahead of ourselves here. I already completed Seraph's and I had catalyst. This was about 20 min midgame so we are well past the "weak/strong early" bullshit excuse. Sion does too much damage for building an MR item and long sword + ruby
: "nerfs didnt do anything" LOL you got his by like 8 of sion's grasp procs, his ult, multiple q's 1 well charged, and the W explosion a couple times, yet you still won the fight. LMFAO quit bitching.
His Q's are on about a 5s CD and I'm slowed enough for him to walk up and auto me. There were a few times where I went into melee range to try to stick to him in case he decided to ult away. I honestly didn't expect it to be that close. >8 of sion's grasp procs, his ult, multiple q's 1 well charged, and the W explosion a couple times, yet you still won the fight. A couple Qs, a couple W, R and ignite is enough to kill me while being a tank? On the other hand I had a full damage build and had to combo like 40 times (not really). But yeah, I am bitching about a busted champion.
: > [{quoted}](name=UVM ZhaoRiTian,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0MPRAWOu,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-10-25T18:35:19.227+0000) > > In both videos Sion lost to Ryze. Sion is even the strongest tank of all right now. This already demonstrates the bad shape tanks are in now and how urgent tanks need to be buffed to so that battlemages like {{champion:112}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:50}} do not dominate top lane. yeah i find it strange that says "sion nerfs didnt do anything" then he proceeds to beat sion... and also.. youtr playing a mage vs a tanky.. your SUPPOSED to lase that match up. mages are designed to lose vs tanks. granted {{champion:13}} is a dps mages which has a much better chance and him and {{champion:69}} are kind of the exception to the rule.. but scion in an HP tank... building MR. honestly im surprised u even won... the fact u did prove you outplayed him.. your SUPPOSED to lose that matchup
This was the only point in the game where I was able to fight Sion.
: In both videos Sion lost to Ryze. Sion is even the strongest tank of all right now. This already demonstrates the bad shape tanks are in now and how urgent tanks need to be buffed to so that battlemages like {{champion:112}} {{champion:13}} {{champion:8}} {{champion:50}} do not dominate top lane.
I BARELY won that fight, are you kidding me? He killed me 3 times prior with just Spirit Visage before I completed my Archangel staff.
Rexxiee (NA)
: hash is right about ryze being stupid atm. I mean, mages in general are overpowered rght now, as he said.
Explain how Ryze is stupid.
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Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: Someome doesn't know what freezing waves is.
Freezing waves doesn't do anything if team doesn't know what to do. The best thing to do is push very aggressively.
: Ryze is among the weakest early game champions in the game. You do not want to start fights early unless you want to int. Know when to play aggressive and when to play safe. If you don't have a ward in both bushes or can't see certain enemies on the map (like a roaming support), you probably shouldn't be attacking in ganking range.
How is Ryze weak early game? He has one of the best early games out of any midlane champion because of how his Q works. He can be punished, but that pertains to any champion. Okay, so let's say I am at fault. Say that I was playing too aggressive and I get ganked. That is when botlane/toplane should be playing aggressive right? They don't
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: By that logic ranged autos should start at only 20% accuracy and you should be able to walk out of their flight path.
Dang, is Irelia Q just not enough for you?
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: if you only could use 6 champions
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: Because Ahri players wanted her to have her Kiss of Death fantasy back. If you get hit by charm, you die. However, it was clear that the E buffs, while returning her to her old iteration of Kiss of Death assassin, pushed her over the edge over a little bit. So they instead chose to make her more high risk high reward by nerfing her safety. Seems pretty logical to me. People have been complaining about her safety for along time, by the way. Also, increased R CD means less opportunities to reposition yourself for a lethal charm.
E buffs should have been followed by E damage amplification reduced. 20% amplification is HUGE, especially one you get Luden's Echo. Nerfing her safety? There is a net 16s change (with Ludens 20%) R at level 6, and a net 8s change at level 11. They didn't reduce her safety at all. Do you know how long 16s is? that is half the time for the next minion wave to come up and 8 seconds is even less than that. I think they should have kept her R CD the way it was, no one was complaining about her R. Huge complaint of mine is how other burst mages telegraph their burst but two (Lux, Ahri) (maybe there are others) do not telegraph their burst. This is why people don't like playing versus Lux. The second she lands her snare, you're more than likely dead. Ahri is the same exact champion but with more mobility and less CC.
: > [{quoted}](name=NodirjonSattarov,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fs1Jnn0c,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-12T17:49:35.316+0000) > > I&#x27;m sorry but landing one E shouldn&#x27;t mean that I should instantly die. I fucking hate that they increased the duration of her E for 2 reasons, 1) increased duration gives more time to apply other abilities for 20% increased damage through E passive (this could be an easy thing to nerf but once again, no one wants to touch the problematic spell) 2) increased E duration allows for smaller gap between spell rotation meaning that 7 second CD Q now becomes ~5.7s. Honestly, the right nerf would be to keep the duration BUT to reduce E amplified damage. Landing one E shouldn&#x27;t be immediate death. Well that's how she is , a burst mage , like Lux , if you don't like it , you should either deal with it or ban her , not like she is that op or something , she is pretty balanced , the way you complain about her is exactly like circle jerking , she lands E , a key to land her full combo , she bursted you ? well she did a full combo , for that , her early full combo doesn't kill anyone , and she has a really high mana costs , I can name some champions who can point click you and won't even land half of their kits , and then it kills you , no for real , if you don't like getting killed if you get cc'ed then ban her and good luck dealing with other champions , not to forget that her charm duration in early levels isn't enough to land her second q , she gets hard countered by MR and MR boots completely destroy her and her charm , that's only the case if she lands charm lol
For a Gold 1 Ahri main at 62% win rate in 190+ games, you should know that Lux isn't really a burst mage, she is more of an artillery mage despite what Riot claims her to be. Just by looking at your statistics I can tell that you win with Ahri simply through how powerful she is and not by csing. Your average cs per game is 5.5? That means you're missing 7 cs per minute...like what? You know you abuse Ahri but you're too ignorant to admit it but its okay. > and she has a really high mana costs Maybe you should play Ryze if you think Ahri has "high mana costs". Ahri doesn't have scaling mana costs on abilities other than her R which mean she can get away with building Ludens. Her mana costs on W is 40 mana (lmao) and E are 70 NOT scaling. Her E isn't hard to land. It is a linear projectile that isn't telegraphed. In fact, she is one of the only burst mages (Annie, Brand, Karma, LeBlanc, Lissandra, Lux, Orianna, Syndra, Twisted Fate, Veigar, Zoe, Zyra). Out of those champions, only Lux and Ahri don't telegraph their burst. Both of them have the same type of ability, linear, fast skill shot that isn't difficult to land on champions that don't have hyper mobility. > I can name some champions who can point click you and won't even land half of their kits If you're talking about Ryze, you're very wrong. When playing Ryze I have to land several rotations of spells to kill someone.... not pressing 2 buttons, doing true damage + amplified damage like Ahri does. > not to forget that her charm duration in early levels isn't enough to land her second q Wait, do you want charm duration to be long enough to land 2 Qs? or are you talking about return damage? If you E then Q immediately after, you will most certainly land the 2nd part of Q unless you're bad. If you thik 1.4 seconds isn't enough, imagine .75s Ryze W where you are less likely to hit EQ or empowered W at 1.5s. I understand Ryze W is a point and click, but with mercury treads you're reducing it to .54 seconds which isn't enough time to EQ or even land Q. You are completely delusional about your champion, I hope you continue thinking she is weak though because it is hilarious to see Ahri mains complain about their decent champion. When you get hit with real nerfs and get to the level of Ryze, then come talk to me. Also, check out my (banned) account where I ONLY played Ryze games: http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=diamondseed https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA1/49599032 I have CS better than you, I rotate better than you, I play my champion better than you but you complain you're champion is weak WHILE you know and statistics show that Ahri is a top tier midlaner. You simply win by playing the broken champion. You win by your champions excessive power instead of skill and finesse.
: > [{quoted}](name=NodirjonSattarov,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=fs1Jnn0c,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-10-12T17:53:58.278+0000) > > Why does the game constantly need to be fresh? For example, look at Starcraft changes. They aren&#x27;t meta warping, otherwise no one would play the game consistently. There are people who enjoy playing the same champions and these meta warping changes that make (Ahri) champions go from equally powerful to more powerful is really annoying. There are many different philosophies to game design. If you don't like Riot's, then League might not be the ideal game for you...
You're right, maybe league isn't for me because the game I started playing 3 years ago isn't the same game I play right now. It's pathetic, gimmicky, and extremely biased in terms of balance. The balance team have completely given up on some champions (Morde, Ryze, Azir, Kalista) and have focused on creating new balancing issues (Irelia, Akali, Aatrox, Urgot). Instead of fixing previous issues, they've gone and created new money milking mechanics/champions.
Psi21 (NA)
: The game was suppose to be fun, with wild events, constant fights and a time saver. What Nexus Blitz really was: 1. Not fun with broken events that gave the wrong side an advantage instead of the underdogs 2. Buffs that were stupid broken and buffs that were useless 3. More of the same over powered champs in lane 4. A terrible jungle experience where only the strongest jungle champs ruled and pushed out other junglers. 5. A waste of resources when there are far more enjoyable games in the rotation like Ascension, Non-Random Urf Mode and King Poro. Here is hoping they scrap it.
: Morde and ryze are both strong.lol.
With a proper team and babysitting jg/supp, sure they're strong. But don't be stupid making a comment like this. Ryze is easily outclassed, in 1v1s, versus many champions. Ryze requires the enemy to make a mistake rather than being proactive.
: ***
Why does the game constantly need to be fresh? For example, look at Starcraft changes. They aren't meta warping, otherwise no one would play the game consistently. There are people who enjoy playing the same champions and these meta warping changes that make (Ahri) champions go from equally powerful to more powerful is really annoying.
: Because some parts of the kit are harder to use than others. For example, Ahri's E is a fairly narrow skillshot which doesn't move exceedingly fast and has a wind-up. This means that it's not stupendously difficult to dodge, and landing it generally represents the Ahri 'outplaying' her enemy, whether by positioning right next to them or landing it at max rank. On the flip side, Ahri's R.. Isn't that. It's a ground targeted dash. It also deals damage. There damage automatically targets, and even automatically prioritizes champions. As a result, "dash in the general vicinity of enemy targets" is enough to nuke people. This really doesn't display skill at all; the ability isn't difficult to use.
I'm sorry but landing one E shouldn't mean that I should instantly die. I fucking hate that they increased the duration of her E for 2 reasons, 1) increased duration gives more time to apply other abilities for 20% increased damage through E passive (this could be an easy thing to nerf but once again, no one wants to touch the problematic spell) 2) increased E duration allows for smaller gap between spell rotation meaning that 7 second CD Q now becomes ~5.7s. Honestly, the right nerf would be to keep the duration BUT to reduce E amplified damage. Landing one E shouldn't be immediate death.
: They buffed her E and to compensate, made her less mobile. They do this often. It's called balancing the game.
They didn't make her less mobile. They made it to where she can't use R for what...20 seconds? Better nerfs would be mana increasing mana costs on Q or E but no, they need to sell skins. What happened to compensating champions that actually need compensation? Like Kog'Maw after the numerous Rageblade changes because one champions (Kai'sa). What happened to the plethora of Ryze nerfs with NO compensation to any aspect of his kit? Don't kid yourself.
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: As someone who was an 11k HP 11/1 chogath during a URF match who turned the corner at baron and a 2/11 firoa turned my screen gray just fucking play fiora. Like If you dont 1 Hit her she kills you instantly no matter how much HP you have. She literally does %Max HP True dmg. %max HP true damage, I literally cant think of a more toxic unbalanced thing you could add the the game? She has Master YI as a passive.
Jokes on you, I was playing Fiora. I had to hit 10+ vitals with normal attack to kill him. He would completely ignore me and just take the tower. If you want I can just show you clips of the match to show how completely wrong you are.
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: If Akali is using her R to escape, she has no kill pressure for almost 2 minutes. Her shroud doesn’t save her from bad positioning and Sweepers reveals her location. Old Akali was compensated for having a point and click dash by having the ability to blow you the fuck up. It really isn’t a good thing you’re point it out to be. Akali is more or less fine minus the tower diving shenanigans.
No kill pressure? She doesn't need her ult for kill pressure. Her ult is practically overkill especially for how strong she is at level 2-5 without it. Shroud gives her movement speed and energy regen for her to fight back. There is no punishment for using it incorrectly. She can even shuriken her shroud to dash to it lmao. Sweeper may reveal her location BUT I still can't do anything aside from (maybe) landing a spell to hit her doing negligible damage. I don't even know if I successfully cc'd her since her HP bar + debuff bar is hidden. I just took a look at your match history and your champion pool is the exact reason why you have said your arguments. I'm done with you lmao
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: Camille now loses most matchups toplane. Pretty much everyone. Tht's why she is played jungle now and not toplane.
They nerfed her because of how much power she had in the toplane so then she moved to jungle to maintain relevancy. She's still playable toplane, its just people don't actually know how to play her after her first rotation of spells. They became so used to how reliant her damage was that when she was actually balanced people complained she is "too weak" in the toplane.
TehNACHO (NA)
: Her hardest counter is a Juggernaut, Illaoi...
: Kai'Sa is by far the best adc in soloQ whereas skarner and rakan are just ok to good so it does matter for Kai'Sa since it shows she should be nerfed since she is very strong in both.
Imagine if this philosphy applied to Ryze. Ryze sucks in soloQ but is nerfed because of pro-play.
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: Honestly how the frick do you lane against Illaoi?
Ryze into her is very easy! Try it out
: Need new top laners to play
ShadWooo (EUNE)
: And why would you think that buffing Khazix, Pyke and Thresh fixes Garen?
What are you talking about? My post had nothing to do with Kha'zix, Pyke or Thresh
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