: If there is a mute button why is toxicity banned
This post grew larger than I would have ever expected. Don't understand the down votes, but whatever, I'm not advocating being toxic, but asking a simple question. Reading all of your responses was very entertaining and interesting, seeing two different viewpoints of the game clash was very enlightening. It make sense that you get banned because you broke the summoners code when you are toxic, so I was just simply curious. I also wanted to see how people viewed toxicity in this game, since very few other companies crack down on toxicity as hard as league does. It is simple, if someone is ruining your experience, mute them, report them and let Riot deal with that account. I understand I phrased my "Argument" poorly, but some of your comparisons don't have the same reasoning as mine did. EX: if people are allowed to defend themselves, why is murder attempt illegal? Although I liked the counter, my take on this is that a Mute button completely negates any form of toxicity besides inting from happening to you. Being able to defend yourself still means you are at risk of getting murdered. Also where is the line between clashing opinions in a game and being considered toxic? Arguing although not effective to win a game, shouldn't be a ban-able offense, in my opinion. There will always be someone who doesn't share the same opinion as you do, so it only makes sense that you debate over the subject. Trying to convince the other person that what you say is correct, and vice versa.
: This also coming from someone with an autism "joke" in their name.
Don’t forget osteoporosis as well it’s a combined name
: A mute button is to try and salvage a game already ruined by toxicity. Chat restrictions and bans are to prevent other games from being ruined in the first place.
When was the Mute button released? I’m not sure and I can’t find the answer online, but if the early seasons of league had a mute button then it wasn’t put in place to try to save the game, but as a way to mute teammates who weren’t acting appropriate. If it came out later and was directly because of the toxicity in league of legends then I can understand. If it was added very early before toxicity became mainstream, then I do not understand your point.
: Yes, but it's not like you immediately jump to a perma-ban. At the very least you get a 14-day ban for zero tolerance stuff then you have to show poor behavior again after that to land yourself a perma.
I never got a 14-day suspension for toxicity, I did however for inting in a 5 man premade as well.
: But it's not like the ban sneaks up on you. If the account meant the most to you how did it get perma-banned?
I was fucking around in a premade of 5 and talking shit to my friends in all chat
: > [{quoted}](name=Autisteoporosis,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hit6gLRV,comment-id=0007000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T09:08:21.575+0000) > > I was too, my first account lasted 3 years, I put 300 dollars into it, and then it got banned. Ever since then in 9 months I’ve gotten 4 accounts banned because I just don’t have the drive to be a good person since the account that meant the most to me is gone i think riot should give the opportunity to get your first account back if you are not toxic for a long time on secondary. like, just giving people that 1 more chance would maybe be enaugh.
I agree that account had some of my most fond memories on it. Seeing it banned really demotivated to even try not to be toxic. And I feel I can’t be the only person who feels that way.
: > [{quoted}](name=Autisteoporosis,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hit6gLRV,comment-id=00070001000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-14T09:04:23.466+0000) > > No it wasn’t a good point from me, I was being aggressive and not very logical but rather emotional. I deleted that comment but I guess you saw it first so apologies. I shouldn’t expect everyone to see the world as I do. The only problem is, having a personality disorder makes it really hard for me to think about the people I’m affecting rather than myself fair enaugh :3 but i still am too invested in league i think haha
I was too, my first account lasted 3 years, I put 300 dollars into it, and then it got banned. Ever since then in 9 months I’ve gotten 4 accounts banned because I just don’t have the drive to be a good person since the account that meant the most to me is gone
: > [{quoted}](name=Autisteoporosis,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hit6gLRV,comment-id=000700010000,timestamp=2018-11-14T08:35:34.381+0000) > > No, in my opinion the best way to not let someone get to you, is realize you are playing a video game, where there is a MUTE button. Or just be a normal human and realize that this flame is temporary and over a game, so it shouldn't affect anyone. I don't know how to describe flame not affecting me, it isn't any tactic I use, it's literally just how I am. good point, its just that im a bit too invested in league. 2 years to get from bronze to silver 2 years from silver to gold. still working to get to plat average of 15 games a day, played trough 5-7 fps for first 3 years. although its just "a game" for me its more like "my game" i know some people play more and since a longer time than me, but ive invested enaugh in it for me to be attached to it. >Or just be a normal human and realize that this flame is temporary and over a game, so it shouldn't affect anyone yeah, i dont know how to not be affected by people attacking other people. ____________________________________________________________________________________ its like building a big castle and having people kill each other when they are in it, its just like "noooooo ;-;"
No it wasn’t a good point from me, I was being aggressive and not very logical but rather emotional. I deleted that comment but I guess you saw it first so apologies. I shouldn’t expect everyone to see the world as I do. The only problem is, having a personality disorder makes it really hard for me to think about the people I’m affecting rather than myself
: > [{quoted}](name=Autisteoporosis,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Hit6gLRV,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2018-11-14T08:18:36.762+0000) > > Toxicity is only harmful for people who let themselves get harmed. just like if you had someone constantly shouting at you 24/7. if you dont let yourself be botherred by it, you wont. but lets be honest, you arent botherred by it and find it funny because you dont see it from the other person's perspective. if you had more empathy (not meant as an insult) you wouldnt be able to think that an angry person is funny. there is no way riot would tell everyone "why dont you all become apathetic so that toxic people can be toxic while you find it funny?" Because its not a good thing. > I have been banned because of 4 Normal game chat logs. NORMAL GAMES, where LP doesn't matter, there is no stakes for winning or losing. I'm in a premade team of 5 and I type something mean to my PREMADE teammates in all chat and I get banned for that. yeah... that's probably just because of a missunderstanding from enemy team that became a missunderstanding from riot. just bad luck :/
I agree with you to a certain degree, yeah I probably need some work in the empathy department, but when I flame or be toxic, I'm not doing it to hurt the other people, often times, it isn't even directed at my teamates, just generalized statements for fun. I Don't mind being in a team of 5 players and trying to see how many deaths I can get in one game. my highest is 31. Growing up on ps4 and call of duty, yeah the stereotype comes to life, I love toxicity and flame.
: If there is a mute button why is toxicity banned
Toxicity is only harmful for people who let themselves get harmed, also flaming in ranked is a dick move, and I'm not making that argument. I like banter, it keeps a game like league fun and lively. I don't mind if my top laner tells me to kill my self. That shit is funny as hell. I have been banned because of 4 Normal game chat logs. NORMAL GAMES, where LP doesn't matter, there is no stakes for winning or losing. I'm in a premade team of 5 and I type something mean to my PREMADE teammates in all chat and I get banned for that.
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