: Why do I get a low Priority Queue just for leaving a game cause my mother wanted me off
Read my name If you aren't allowed to do that, then dont queue up for a game when you know you gotta go in 10 minutes.
KoKoboto (NA)
: I don't understand the main point. I don't understand what you're saying at all.
He's saying he wants AP supports to use AP to support
: We should get RP as a compensation for Riot ducking it up so much.
Yenn (NA)
: Zed should not be able to dumpster 80% of an APC's health without landing his Q
: > [{quoted}](name=AwakePastBedtime,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=x5rbVL0s,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-28T05:50:49.980+0000) > > by them i meant her son So in theory will she teach her son to despise and disgust peasants like she does or will the kid just look and learn from his mom? For example, if her son is like 9 or 10 years old and he confronts a peasant who is like a very old man, and her son treats him with disgust and tells him to get out of the way, would something like that make Fiora proud?
> [{quoted}](name=JhonTeemon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=x5rbVL0s,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2017-09-28T07:05:01.031+0000) > > So in theory will she teach her son to despise and disgust peasants like she does or will the kid just look and learn from his mom? > > For example, if her son is like 9 or 10 years old and he confronts a peasant who is like a very old man, and her son treats him with disgust and tells him to get out of the way, would something like that make Fiora proud? idk about proud. im not proud when my cat poops in the litter box. its just life lol
Kaztiel (NA)
: BE and exclusive rewards vs compensation
runes are becoming free, i feel like compensation isnt even necessary. Only reason you care is because of the shop. Riot gives you some compensation on something that is becoming free Riot gives you a shop to spend the IP ????????? I need more compensation. xd
: Fiora question
by them i meant her son
: > [{quoted}](name=Takazaki,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=x5rbVL0s,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-28T03:53:58.869+0000) > > its likely, fiora is based off french aristocrats IIRC, and that was common for **any** aristocracy. Likely what?
its likely her attitude will rub off on them lol seeing peasants everyday that dont make anything of themselves xd
Haxoonie (NA)
: A Farwell to Rito
Just play ranked twisted treeline lol or not at night in a queue with far less people. Some servers dont even have TT
: but change so she cant jump to it before it lands. and maybe she throws it like a volley that takes 1.25 sec xd
>but change so she cant jump to it before it lands. She'll still just jump to it when it lands. a 725 blink in any direction to your turret after you see the jungler is pretty big. Even if it somehow takes 1.25 seconds to land. She'll still be impossible to gank. This doesnt do anything besides make her clunky. This also removes some cool interactions she has with shunpo-ing to daggers before they land. Jumping over walls for one. If I wanted to jump over a wall now, I just W>E real quick. With this change, I'd have to W, walk away, wait 1.25 seconds, then E. >and maybe she throws it like a volley that takes 1.25 sec xd You mean that she throws it up in the air, then throws it after 1.25 seconds? For an ability that does 195 damage maxed out and cant go through minions lol. Thats terrible. And what, after it hits, the dagger takes another 1.25 seconds to land? Is she rooted for the 1.25 seconds while she's volleying the Q? Can she move during it? Does she aim it before she channels it or during it? Whos gonna get hit by the Q passive when it takes 2.5 seconds to land? lol If she cant jump to it before it lands, and it takes 2.5 seconds to land, how would I chase someone? I'd EW, then watch as the enemy walks away in a straight like because my Q takes too long to land, so there is no pressure to walk in any other direction. This is a terrible idea. >a faster E in order to balance it out a bit. There are some tricks you can do with good timing. You can cancel out a vayne codemn if you get hit during the cast time of her E. If you start your shunpo a split second before you pick up a dagger, you'll pick up the dagger during the cast time, giving you a partial reset on her E after the first E goes through. These 2 things would have much more strict timing with a lower cast time on E, just to make her easier to play. >this forces kat to focus more on her Q how she lands it before she can go all in and finish off a squeezy champ > so she feels smoother This was your goal. The Q throw itself isnt the damage the Kat player cares about when she all-ins, its the dagger damage on the floor. When you throw the Q, you want to throw it at a time where the passive will be hard to dodge for whatever reason. Maybe they already used their dash, maybe they're next to a wall, maybe they're just bad and it doesnt matter. The Q is good for poke, but this change obviously ruins that. You obviously havent thought anything through before making this post. How does ruining her poke, her all-in, making her slower, taking away a bunch of techniques, giving a skillshot with a 1.25 second channel/cast time while having the Q dagger take 2.5 seconds to land make her feel smoother? I'm surprised to see you actually play her.
: A way to escape toxic games
Just afk farm for like 15 min and the game will be over lol
: well i see what you mean with jumping over walls and stuff but i feel like that would be that bad like and maybe if you dont hit anything it just bounce up in the air for a brief time of 1,25 sec or something so she still need around 1.5 sec to jump back. and yes minions would be able to block the Q since its the dagger that lands is the dmg we wanna output on the enemies not the actual Q.
She'd still be ungankable. You can shunpo onto the dagger before it lands. Also, the Q bouncing around for 1.25 seconds on nothing makes no sense? lol
: alternative small change to katarinas Q and E
If it lands even if you miss it, then that means Katarina will have a free dash to anywhere she chooses without needing a target. If she got ganked, she would just throw the dagger backwards at nothing, then shunpo to it. She would also be able to jump thick walls, and gap close even better. The delay on the dagger would also be shorter, because it has a 1.25 second delay after hitting something. This would make her combos faster. In later fights, the Q throw damage isnt what you care about. Its the dagger on the ground. Being able to place it where ever you want would be much better. On top of being better, it would make her more clunky. Sometimes you would want to start shunpo-ing on the dagger/enemy right after you throw it. This means the dagger wont land on a consistent 1.25 sec timer. Whether she hits it or not, will change the fight drastically. (Whether she intended to hit it or not). Kat already has to think about how her daggers are going to lane. The Targeted Q damage itself doesn't matter. Would she be able to Q minions? Do minions block it? Both are terrible for her. Gutting her laning phase. Change would just be clunky and undo what her rework set out to change.
: > [{quoted}](name=AwakePastBedtime,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=83zNcTBL,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-09-25T18:08:24.872+0000) > > _**Guys, I dont like ADCs**_ > > **_Here is some terrible information_** > > Boards xd its undeniable that marksmen are way too strong, and the entire class has issues, regardless of this thread.
: Why do ADC have attack speed steroids in their kit, but champion like Aatrox and tryndamere don't?
_**Guys, I dont like ADCs**_ **_Here is some terrible information_** Boards xd
: Boosters?
You'd get more replies if you put your Discord, Skype, or Twitch/Curse
: In ranked, it just comes down to whether you win or not. Nothing else matters. The grades correlate with winning, but there are going to be ways to abuse it, no matter what, unless its literally, did you win or not? I don't think there is a more consistent way of determining a player's skill than how many games they won over 'x' games. A player could have great KDAs, and lose alot of games. This player is the embodiment of that. http://imgur.com/MqB2Kui Do you think he belongs higher? Or is it his team? Over 500 games it was his team? I dont think so. There is something this player does, which is why he doesn't win as much games as he probably should. He probably gets As or higher every game, but he's stuck because he doesn't win enough. > I guess I've never had your problem. Every game I got an S, I did significant damage and helped my team win most games. I linked your matches because of this. You often don't do alot of damage. The guy I linked didn't do alot of damage. do more damage. Also, http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Diana
Whoops signed onto my smurf lmao xD didnt realize I started off in bronze 5, and I deserved it lol. I was that yasuo that everyone hated XD lol. The thing about getting a bad team in general, is that it happens on both sides. I do believe that a hell could occur over a small amount of games, like during placements, but over a large sample, no. In low elo, I often find that I just need to be there when a fight occurs, because fights will happen no matter what. Do you see a 3v4 mid lane? they're gonna fight it lol. I played old {{champion:55}} , {{champion:1}}, {{champion:32}} until like gold, and just put a bunch of emphasis on teamfighting in my builds/mindset and just being there when a fight broke out. People are going to fight no matter what lol For example, Last game I was 17/6, but the xayah got caught out 40 minutes into the game and we just lost. I was at the enemy blue that wasn't warded, looking to get a pick, but I needed to be with my team because our adc wasn't too bright. I was doing something smart, but I lost because I was being smart. Just learn how to play teamfights like a boss lol
: It sounds to me you are completely dissatisfied with the current grading system and you don't see any value in it. Is that correct? From what you told me, you've had bad experiences with it. That's probably why we have different perspectives. I'm fine with that. About the personal attack you made to me regarding my builds. It doesn't really matter if others disagree with it. It works for me, I generally get alot of kills, and put my team in a position to take objectives (afterall if you can't take towers and inhibitors, how do you expect to take the nexus?) It doesn't really matter how much damage you deal. So I'm good with it. If you think you are so good at playing, why don't you recommend some builds to help under ranked individuals like myself, instead of just criticizing and mocking them? Also, I'd like to know your thoughts on how to make the ranking system more fair?
In ranked, it just comes down to whether you win or not. Nothing else matters. The grades correlate with winning, but there are going to be ways to abuse it, no matter what, unless its literally, did you win or not? I don't think there is a more consistent way of determining a player's skill than how many games they won over 'x' games. A player could have great KDAs, and lose alot of games. This player is the embodiment of that. http://imgur.com/MqB2Kui Do you think he belongs higher? Or is it his team? Over 500 games it was his team? I dont think so. There is something this player does, which is why he doesn't win as much games as he probably should. He probably gets As or higher every game, but he's stuck because he doesn't win enough. > I guess I've never had your problem. Every game I got an S, I did significant damage and helped my team win most games. I linked your matches because of this. You often don't do alot of damage. The guy I linked didn't do alot of damage. do more damage. Also, http://www.probuilds.net/champions/details/Diana
: > [{quoted}](name=Take the Draw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=0005000000000001000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T18:35:50.735+0000) > > The Caitlyn game is just ridiculous to bring up. We had a mid laner and a jungle Rengar who did less combined damage than the enemy Nami. Better blame the Nunu though. > > I don't know what to tell you. You don't read what I'm saying, and if you do, you assume I'm lying anyway, or you know my own strategy better than I do. You realize the farm of the ADC has very little do with how diveable they are, right? Having a Runaan's Hurricane does not suddenly make someone undiveable. You know what actually does make someone difficult to dive? Levels. You know who gets solo exp when they usually don't? Bot laners who play with me. > > It's like you're so transfixed on the negative tradeoffs of the strategy that you completely throw the blinders up to the positive attributes of it. Junglers who play against me struggle to gank ANYONE because they're on deep wards, or near me, pretty much nonstop. ** It's a tradeoff. ** > > Some of the stuff you say is just straight stupid, like you said this strategy doesn't work against a Maokai jungle, like I've played against one in years, or that anyone jungles Maokai in 2017. Even in this post you're trying to claim that the person _who gets solo experience is going to be underleveled_ . The thing is, you act like it's an appeal to authority argument for me to point out that you're (barely) silver 5 and I'm diamond 2, but it's not. You say dumb things that make it apparent that you don't know how competently played ranked games go. The thing that separates me from you is game knowledge, it's not mechanics like you tried to imply in the other post because Nunu is certainly not a mechanically intensive champion. It's literally just game knowledge and decisionmaking that separates almost the entirety of the NA ladder from me to you. You probably think I'm being arrogant now, but you're the worst kind of arrogant. You're that mix of obstinate/arrogant/stupid that makes it so hard for people to innovate in solo queue. Levels on an ADC are irrelevant; ADCs need items and items need *gold* which they aren't getting a lot of if they're shoved under turret and harrassed out. As for how they would be under leveled, huh, could it be that the enemy bot lane hard freeze and or zone and poke them out of lane so that they're never there? That's definitely a thing. And sure, bring up the idea *I'm* the one not reading when literally everyone else and their mother has probably asked you, specifically,"Can you not do this strat in this game?" and you *still* did. Which is the *real* reason you got banned, not the bullshit that you spun to make it sound like Riot just hate the "starving artist type" who are trying to "innovate soloqueue." How pretentious are you to think that they even remotely care about you breaking the mold and doing something different? No, what they care about is the over 50% of players who flatly say,"You are an asshole to play with and I hated playing this game with you, holy shit." Do you care that you are ruining the gaming experience for people on your team though? Not one fucking bit. And feel free to call me arrogant; I'm not the one who is forcing and demanding that my strategy is the only strategy that can be played this game regardless of how comfortable or fun someone else on my team is going to get to have. Holy shit, you don't even compromise half the time with people. You just expect that the entirety of your team should bend to your will and do this strategy. I don't care if you're D1 or B5, dude, you are a monster to play with and ruin the game for at least one person on your team and ergo deserved the ban and the punishment that they gave you. You lucked out ridiculously hard and had a bunch of white knight bastards with no grasp of why you were banned and Riot themselves not clearly starting earlier the reason save you from punishment. I don't feel like they should have caved in the least because you *deserved* it. They are a business and if a customer with in the business is making issues for other customers, they have the right to not serve you and tell you to get out and the fact that you think your "innovation" makes you special or exempt from this is the epitome of arrogance. As I've stated in previous threads, specifically when this trash came up when you posted it, I enjoy doing meta breaking stuff so saying I'm "stifling innovation" is ridiculous when I enjoy playing Nami in lanes other than support(specifically top and mid) and I personally only ever play Varus AP, even when I take him bot lane. You know next to nothing about me outside of my rank and you automatically decide I'm a "creativity stifler" who only ever "follows the meta." How is that any different from what everyone has been saying to you about what you do? But please, *I'm* the arrogant one in this conversation. I'm the one flaunting how much higher a rank I am than everyone else and I'm the one who is saying my strategy is "innovative" and the best thing since sliced bread. Yes, please tell me how *I'm* the arrogant one.
> [{quoted}](name=OtterlyLost,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=00050000000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T19:42:42.993+0000) > I don't care if you're D1 or B5, dude, you are a monster to play with and ruin the game for at least one person on your team and ergo deserved the ban and the punishment that they gave you. You lucked out ridiculously hard and had a bunch of white knight bastards with no grasp of why you were banned and Riot themselves not clearly starting earlier the reason save you from punishment. I don't feel like they should have caved in the least because you *deserved* it. amen dude
Breaku (NA)
: So your assertion is that Take the Draw is just the luckiest player in all of league of legends?
How his strategy works doesn't make up for what he puts his ad through, whether they win or lose the game. Luck has nothing to do with it.
Almìghty (EUNE)
: Post the funniest insult you've ever received
Nobody can have that apm. ur scripting I was playing {{champion:55}}
: > [{quoted}](name=MsBehave,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-03-21T01:35:54.519+0000) > > Yeah, QTPie isn't really wrong there when he says "Someone has to change the Meta, but it isn't you" and changing the Meta is GREAT when you're not fucking over your team mate. Just because it works for someone alone, doesn't mean you're helping your team and so on. Granted, the clips shown might be slanted to show the bad moments of this guys escapades. > > Overall though, don't fuck another player over just to do your own thing and try and justify it. In this current state of the game, being stuck 1v2 would absolutely be awful. The funny thing is that even as far as bad montages go, this was stupid. Most notably the clip at 5:30, notice the enemy top lane didn't get to lane until almost the 3 minute mark, the enemy Cass left lane for over 30 seconds and the Kha'Zix's clear was impaired chasing me around for... what? Nothing. They didn't even kill me, and** it wouldn't have been worth it even if they had**. It actually set up a pretty sick invade for the Lee Sin too, which was conveniently omitted. The clip at 5:30 I think perfectly reflects how the strategy works, and why the bad KDA's don't tell a meaningful story. It's funny that instead of trying to understand it, people just flame it. Whatever.
> [{quoted}](name=Take the Draw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T06:37:04.150+0000) >Most notably the clip at 5:30, notice the enemy top lane didn't get to lane until almost the 3 minute mark, the enemy Cass left lane for over 30 seconds and the Kha'Zix's clear was impaired chasing me around for... what? Nothing. The clip at 5:30 I think perfectly reflects how the strategy works That very same game, you hit level 3 at 8 minutes because of the time you also wasted. You also went 0/15/5. The time they wasted there means nothing in comparison to the time you wasted dying to krugs and dying everywhere because you were so underleveled. You cannot possibly believe that strategy worked that game. > [{quoted}](name=Take the Draw,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-03-21T06:37:04.150+0000) > > It actually set up a pretty sick invade for the Lee Sin too, which was conveniently omitted. This sick invade? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=63wyfAb9p84&feature=youtu.be I mean he got the khazix. But then lee and your Xerath died. Maybe I should have put that in lol
: as long as he tries to win I don't see the problem
> [{quoted}](name=hhaavviikk,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=k2hyq4AA,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2017-03-21T04:19:39.664+0000) > > as long as he tries to win I don't see the problem Did you watch the video? Lets queue up in a custom game. I'll be with 2 of my friends and we'll freeze the lane then 1v3 dive you. How does that sound.
Rioter Comments
: In all seriousness, why isn't Riven disabled?
Alot of champs can cancel their animations. Any skillshot, if you let the full animation play it, it takes longer to automatically move than if you just manually moved asap. Riven isn't actually cancelling CC, she's just moving during it because she used an ability before it hit her. This works with any dash in the game. If you get CC'd a split second after you input a dash, you will still dash. The longer the dash, the less effective the CC is basically. They don't cancel dashes.
Leo1024 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=cIfEodbz,discussion-id=RlgHeEH4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-13T04:50:31.508+0000) > > That thing with riven is just how the game's mechanics work. > > If you CC her after she Qs, the Q is still going to go off. > If you CC lux when she ults, the ult with still go off. > If you CC Yi during the cast time of alpha strike, the alpha strike still goes off. > If you CC Katarina during the .05 cast time of her shunpo, she still shunpos. > > I don't know why the Teemo is stealthing faster. But it's going against the mechanics of the game. So can Ekko cancel Cc with his dash? How about Lucian? What happens if Gragas leaps forward at the time of CC? It's not the games mechanics, otherwise it'd be a much bigger issue
Yes they all can. If you dash right before you get hit by CC that isn't a knockup. It isn't cancelling it, they're snared/stun, but the animation and movement still goes through because they used that spell. Thats how the game works.
R0XTAR (NA)
: Taliyah, Good Sirs of Riot
She's still being played in competitive everyone now and then, I feel like it would be hard to buff her without making her one of the best again. Some change would be great though
: But those numbers have to be actual in order for the reasoning to be valid, no? if a giant's belt actually adds 30% extra hp while 78 armor adds 25% reduce damage, that reasoning wouldn't be valid, then. unless the math has been done and you just couldn't remember the actual number but remember giant belt adds lets effective hp than armor does?
I have no idea what's right lol.
: Why Armor/MR early instead of HP?
You could probably do the math. lets say 78 armor is like 40% reduced damage. 38 is like 20% reduced damage. A giant's belt might not be more than 20% extra health. Therefore, if you built 'x', you'd have more effective health than with 'y'. I made up these numbers. I don't know what they actually are. Its just an example. I don't know which one is really better according to real numbers lol.
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sA0dEvsc,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-01-14T07:12:27.495+0000) > > That's a little different from AD yi that makes like no cooldown lol He does the same thing now tbh. Once he gets a couple of items and gets going it's insta delete.
Yeah but he's not insta deleting squads while invulnerable lol :P
: Poppy's w kills yorick's walkers [GAMEPLAY]
: Instead of nerfing the heck out of assassins, why dont you just ultra-buff supports?
The best supports are midlaners lol {{champion:63}} {{champion:143}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:90}}
: Intentionally Losing to Gain LP?
http://www.op.gg/summoner/userName=skevvecl 43 WINS 0 LOSSES GG EZ You just need more skill to always win m8
: Why Yi should never be buffed
That's a little different from AD yi that makes like no cooldown lol
: Which will make mid Ziggs a terror.
He should be able to clear castor minions with one Q, and all the melees with QE from level 2 Also, let his ult deal damage to towers. It doesn't make sense that I can throw it at a tower, and the big explosion doesn't hurt the tower.
: Serious question: good guides?
Tbh from what it sounds like, you'll climb consistently like how you are now, However, if you want to climb faster, you need a support that does the damage. Carrying games lets you climb the fastest. You need to have the biggest impact. If you can't trust your team to somewhat know what to do, then I wouldn't play a support that **_enables_** your team to perform better. Theres no point in doing that if they can't play better. 1. {{champion:143}} {{champion:63}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:1}}{{champion:25}} for example are damage supports than can carry. They have stuns/roots, but they'll kill enemies by themselves. Mages basically lol. Looking at your games from last season, you should play more morgana.
Krat (NA)
: Slot Designated for {{item:2055}}
It sucks but really everyone should have a {{item:2055}} if they can. Not just the support. If your whole team is full build, then the enemy team probably is too. They can't get it either lol
: what the malphite did is bannable if repeated alot, the difference is 1 game vs several hundred
Will confirm, gg placements got banned https://gyazo.com/cab101961b4cbc4a40ef6d1a8400afdf {{champion:32}} {{item:1412}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3087}}
: Remake WAY too short
its a disadvantage in most cases if my teammate connects later than 3 min.
: better runes/?
On jinx? Attack speed quints, AD Marks.
: Pool Party Nasus
I like it lol, i'd buy it
robothax (NA)
: amidst all the caitlyn complaints ive never seen anyone talk about....
Its because {{champion:51}} is a safari lady, hunting u fuzzy boys down from the bush like in a real safari
: Katarina immune to stuns while ulting (gameplay)
Read amumu's ult. It isn't a stun. It just *entangles* them, rendering them unable to attack or move. Kat is already attacking, amumu's ult doesn't cancel channels. Kinda funny though, {{champion:32}} ult doesn't stop {{champion:55}} ult But {{champion:164}} solo ulting {{champion:55}} stops her ult, because it stops channels for some reason.
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gmIczNNx,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-14T00:18:21.359+0000) > > jhins ult slows. > > Caits ult doesnt slow. > > > Im done here. You're not even trying you said you cant compare anything to jhins ult, then compared something to jhins ult............. Are you even trying?
This argument is stupid. "You can't compare" is just a figure of speech. If you're being picky, you can compare anything. Its like saying there's nothing like 'x', then you saying, well 'y' is also a letter, therefore they're similar.
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gmIczNNx,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-14T00:14:25.084+0000) > > You can compare apples to oranges. Doesn't mean it's logical. Saying that theyre both fruits, plants, edible, and sweet. Then saying one is red, and one is orange, is completely logical. Did you read the definition of compare? The two things dont even have to have anything in common whatsoever to be compared. Again. Compare: estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between.
jhins ult slows. Caits ult doesnt slow. Im done here. You're not even trying
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=gmIczNNx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-13T23:47:52.123+0000) > > Jhins has his ult and root for teamfights, ganks, picks, etc. > > They start a teamfight differently. You can't compare anything to jhins ult i can compare anything to anything, even apples to oranges. _Compare: estimate, measure, or note the similarity or dissimilarity between._ Cait has a very solid teamfight root, 3-4 in one fight is even manageable, and adds massive damage to her attacks, though i agree it is almost impossible to use her roots during enemy disengage like you can with jhin. Caits ult is also **very very** usuable for ganks and picks, and **cannot be dodged **without a teamate.
You can compare apples to oranges. Doesn't mean it's logical.
: Doesnt Caitlyn Seem Like A Very General Form Of Jhin?
Jhins has his ult and root for teamfights, ganks, picks, etc. They start a teamfight differently. You can't compare anything to jhins ult
: What is your Swain build?
I've always prefered a tankier build. {{champion:50}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3027}} {{item:3065}} {{item:3068}}{{item:3047}} The highest rated swain players usually go like {{champion:50}} {{item:3027}}{{item:3047}} {{item:3111}} {{item:3020}} then {{item:3157}} or {{item:3116}} or {{item:3065}} , then the other items in these 3. {{item:3001}} {{item:3151}} situationally, could make them after ROA. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-NsR0TH6G5w http://na.op.gg/champion/swain/statistics/top
Paroe (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=PikaFister,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=RfA6zZxJ,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-01-13T19:32:50.199+0000) > > The aids and crabs kill them. > > He's actually being played in scrims by professional teams like SKT as support. > > If anything, he's getting nerfed LOL ... You realize that just like ziggs, malzahar is a very specific counter and has a very specific strategy behind him? Hes duo lane with a sightstone. Thats not support, thats duo lane.
The comparison you trying to make is better used with supp mf. Even then, its wrong. Ziggs is just good in the meta, mf is good vs zyra, paired with ashe, but supp malzahar is pretty good in general. He's like another zyra or brand support.
Hav0ck (EUW)
: Buff Malzahar
The aids and crabs kill them. He's actually being played in scrims by professional teams like SKT as support. If anything, he's getting nerfed LOL
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