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Azca33 (NA)
: TL has never beaten TSM this split.
We got ourselves a series. Not going to lie. These last two games have been quite the surprise.
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Azca33 (NA)
: Anyone Else's Game Crash and Can't Get Back In?
I hope they turn it on so you don't lose LP.
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Azca33 (NA)
: Bounties Make no Sense on How They Calculate
If it’s team based, how do they decide who gets the bounty?
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Azca33 (NA)
: Can you report accounts for being elo boosted?
Good to know. I will put in a ticket. Bazerka, we are talking about elo boosting, not feeding.
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Jamaree (NA)
: The problem is that when he is playing with you, he isn't playing against new players, he is playing against other smurfs and duos.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9FquKGa4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-30T03:03:55.708+0000) > > The problem is that when he is playing with you, he isn't playing against new players, he is playing against other smurfs and duos. I’m on a new account. How would the system know if I was new or not?
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saltran (EUW)
: It was Jensen who wanted to go, you think that it was otherwise seriosly ?
> [{quoted}](name=saltran,realm=EUW,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=EwYP85Mg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-27T18:06:43.293+0000) > > It was Jensen who wanted to go, you think that it was otherwise seriosly ? He wanted to go because how the team was being run. He didn’t want to be on a team with two mid laners that get subbed out. They created the environment for him to leave, so yes it was an awful idea on the part of the coaching staff.
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: The same exact thing happened to me. I contacted support and they were sympathetic but refused to give any sort of leniency. I will be thinking twice about purchasing anything from riot from this point on. Absolutely ridiculous that one offense can destroy your whole season rewards
> [{quoted}](name=B0ner Garage,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IU5nwH7s,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2018-11-09T20:42:06.547+0000) > > The same exact thing happened to me. I contacted support and they were sympathetic but refused to give any sort of leniency. I will be thinking twice about purchasing anything from riot from this point on. Absolutely ridiculous that one offense can destroy your whole season rewards Agreed. They act sympathetic because I received a similar response.
Kei143 (NA)
: Then you got 2 chat restrictions? If that's the case, you really didn't drop from h4 to h0. It also means that you did have recent consistent negativity.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=00030000000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T22:00:32.951+0000) > > Then you got 2 chat restrictions? > > If that's the case, you really didn't drop from h4 to h0. It also means that you did have recent consistent negativity. You are still wrong. I received one chat restriction and I was dropped to honor 0. I didn't have recent consistent negativity because I was promoted to honor 4 then a couple days later I received my chat restriction. There is no way I would have gotten honor 4 if I was being negative. In fact the opposite it more likely as Riot states you will drop in honor for negative behavior. This is why people want a reform. You can get knocked for having one bad game and you can receive a chat restriction.
Kei143 (NA)
: Well, you dropped down to h0, which means you got a 14-day ban. To do that, you either intentionally fed / trolled or used hate speech. All those are pretty serious crimes in the LoL space. Relative to real life, it's like getting charged for man-slaughter in real life.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=000300000000,timestamp=2018-11-09T19:47:39.979+0000) > > Well, you dropped down to h0, which means you got a 14-day ban. > > To do that, you either intentionally fed / trolled or used hate speech. All those are pretty serious crimes in the LoL space. Relative to real life, it's like getting charged for man-slaughter in real life. No, you get dropped to H0 for chat restrictions as well and not just 14-day bans. Most people complaining about their punishments are chat restrictions which drop their honor to 0. Most people that have received chat restrictions still agree that 14-day bans should drop your honor to 0, but not chat restrictions.
Kei143 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Azca33,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-08T23:05:52.405+0000) > > How can a player go from Ranked 4 honor to Rank 0 (locked) in bad/negative game? Think about it this way. You have a clean history of not shop lifting. But suddenly you start stealing, and get punished. All those 20+ years of not shop lifting doesn't prevent you from getting punished. > Why isn't my honor being decreased if I am getting reported? Cos it is programmed to just decrease upon punishment. > Why am I climbing honor and then after one game I am losing my end of season rewards? I just hit rank 4 honor, but then within a couple days my honor is locked? If I am a habitual negative player, then why was I climbing in honor and not getting demoted in honor? This counter intuitive result that you describe is something Riot is aware of, and probably working on a fix. > Does anyone else feel like this system is completely broken. It's not completely broken, but certainly can use some clarity and transparency improvements. > I received a chat restriction two weeks before season ends and now I have no way of getting my end of season rewards all because of one game of negative behavior. You've said it, you've got a history of negativity. Not punished for 1 game.
> [{quoted}](name=Kei143,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-09T01:52:10.578+0000) > > Think about it this way. You have a clean history of not shop lifting. But suddenly you start stealing, and get punished. All those 20+ years of not shop lifting doesn't prevent you from getting punished. > > Cos it is programmed to just decrease upon punishment. > > This counter intuitive result that you describe is something Riot is aware of, and probably working on a fix. > > It's not completely broken, but certainly can use some clarity and transparency improvements. > > You've said it, you've got a history of negativity. Not punished for 1 game. 1. Yes, you get punished but what is the rightful punishment? Life in jail? Returning the item? 6 months probation? If the punishment doesn't fit the crime, I would stand next the criminal together is soladarity to fight for a correct punishment which I am essentially doing here. 2. This is inaccurate. Riot stated that you will decrease in honor based on being reported after games. 5. I never said I have a history of negativity.
rujitra (NA)
: Because level 2+ is reserved for honorable players. You showed you were dishonorable. Giving you any sort of warning in the form of honor decrease when reported would just give you a method to learn how to game the system.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-11-09T00:02:40.371+0000) > > Because level 2+ is reserved for honorable players. You showed you were dishonorable. > > Giving you any sort of warning in the form of honor decrease when reported would just give you a method to learn how to game the system. How does this make any sense? Riot even stated that you decrease in honor when you are report, so what are you talking about?
exxpose (NA)
: I don't like the attitude of the circlejerkers on these forums. It's why I rarely post here. I spoke to a Riot employee through their live support chat earlier this year. I received a 10-game chat restriction for asking a team mate to explain their reasoning behind doing an action. For example, "why did you run to the opposite side of the map instead of taking infernal dragon?" "why did you tower dive a 1v3?" "why are you running to farm top lane when the enemy is destroying our inhibitor?" I never insulted them. I never flamed them. I never said anything else except asked them to explain their actions. The Riot employee essentially agreed with me that it was a silly violation, but couldn't revert it. They told me that the community has the power to change the current punishment system. The problem is circlejerkers on these forums just regurgitate the status quo, instead of taking action to change the system. They just accept the harsh system for what it is and affirm "oh you deserved what you got" "oh yeah, that can get you banned nowadays" No one wants to work to make "what's considered punishable" more relaxed and less stringent. I don't know why everyone has become so complacent. Riot has shown time and time again that with enough community "interest" change can happen. So let's work to reform the current system into a better idea of what is "toxic" and what isn't. It would also be a good idea for people to only drop 1 Honor level for every 10-game chat restriction. And drop to Honor 0 for every 14 day ban. It's not fair that an Honor 5 or Honor 4 person who worked all season long to gain that honor, to just lose it all over a single game of minor frustration (such as the 10 game chat restriction I received as explained above). That's not 1 month or 2 months worth of work. It's a full 11 months wasted (Jan-Nov). It's disgusting to have to work 11 months on something just for someone to come along and hit the Delete button just like that. It's inhumane.
> [{quoted}](name=exxpose,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=4aauGHiV,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-08T23:50:15.414+0000) > > I don't like the attitude of the circlejerkers on these forums. It's why I rarely post here. > > I spoke to a Riot employee through their live support chat earlier this year. I received a 10-game chat restriction for asking a team mate to explain their reasoning behind doing an action. For example, "why did you run to the opposite side of the map instead of taking infernal dragon?" "why did you tower dive a 1v3?" "why are you running to farm top lane when the enemy is destroying our inhibitor?" I never insulted them. I never flamed them. I never said anything else except asked them to explain their actions. > > The Riot employee essentially agreed with me that it was a silly violation, but couldn't revert it. > > They told me that the community has the power to change the current punishment system. > > The problem is circlejerkers on these forums just regurgitate the status quo, instead of taking action to change the system. They just accept the harsh system for what it is and affirm "oh you deserved what you got" "oh yeah, that can get you banned nowadays" > > No one wants to work to make "what's considered punishable" more relaxed and less stringent. > > I don't know why everyone has become so complacent. Riot has shown time and time again that with enough community "interest" change can happen. > > So let's work to reform the current system into a better idea of what is "toxic" and what isn't. > > It would also be a good idea for people to only drop 1 Honor level for every 10-game chat restriction. And drop to Honor 0 for every 14 day ban. It's not fair that an Honor 5 or Honor 4 person who worked all season long to gain that honor, to just lose it all over a single game of minor frustration (such as the 10 game chat restriction I received as explained above). That's not 1 month or 2 months worth of work. It's a full 11 months wasted (Jan-Nov). It's disgusting to have to work 11 months on something just for someone to come along and hit the Delete button just like that. It's inhumane. Agree with this ^ completely. Until the person receives an unfair chat restriction they regurgitate the status quo as you mentioned.
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: End of season Honor and Chat Restrictions
> [{quoted}](name=SofaKingLuvd,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=IU5nwH7s,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-11-07T02:49:19.600+0000) > > Heads up to everyone that did not know or may be newer to the game like myself. > At this stage of the season, if you get your even FIRST chat restriction (as minor as it may be) you lose all end of season rewards. > > Ive never had a single disciplinary issue before, and PG13 rated lost my cool on a duo harassing a random teammate, and I had enough, I asked them to stop and got a little negative, but never cussing or becoming as vulgar or hateful as they did. At honor 4 i got my first ever chat restriction. Riot is unsympathetic and has stripped all my honor and rewards. > > I have wasted hundreds of dollars on this game. To have no equal opportunity for redemption or plan in place for timing allowing players to waste a whole season is so unfortunate. If you had an issue earlier in the season, you probably restored your honor by now.... but regardless of level, they strip you down to 1 at any stage in the game...... > > Dock me an entire honor level, but to reset me after going so far after trying to stand up for a stranger....especially for a first offense...? wow.. > > Good luck in your business endeavors and recruiting new players, Riot. You need to re-evaluate your system so good, uplifting community members aren’t horrendously punished for one bad game considering the hundreds I’ve played without incident. > > This is unfair to good and loyal players. I have no faith in riot games. > > > Anyone else see the flaw here or am I salty cause I lost everything? The exact same thing happened to me, but I get a lot of you don't get banned for one game, but an overall behavioral issue. I call such BS on this. I was honor 4 before I received my chat restriction and regularly receive honors. I got my chat restriction about 2 weeks ago so I am given 0 opportunities to receive the end of season rewards. Essentially your punishment grows more severe as the season goes on. Player A - Toxic and receives chat restriction in May, they have 6 months to fix their honor. Player B - Same toxicity as player A, but receives chat restriction in October. Your screwed. It shouldn't be you lose everything for your first time being disciplined. You should lose 1 rank in honor and not the whole thing. Its extremely unfair.
: I'm sorry, but no. The system already had a pattern of reports for you, that was just the final straw, if that was the case. You must have just been more negative than you thought in enough other games that the system had you on the threshold. The only 'one-and-done' punishments for chat are zero tolerance words. In which case you'll get a 14 day ban instantly. Aside from that, the system requires multiple games of reporting to establish a pattern of negativity.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dAXPbUYs,comment-id=0007000000000000,timestamp=2018-11-07T20:13:28.034+0000) > > I'm sorry, but no. The system already had a pattern of reports for you, that was just the final straw, if that was the case. You must have just been more negative than you thought in enough other games that the system had you on the threshold. > > The only 'one-and-done' punishments for chat are zero tolerance words. In which case you'll get a 14 day ban instantly. Aside from that, the system requires multiple games of reporting to establish a pattern of negativity. Sources?
: No. You can't. Unless 'one bad game' includes racial slurs or the like in your mind. \ It takes a pattern before you get punished.
> [{quoted}](name=Eleshakai,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=dAXPbUYs,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2018-11-07T19:29:33.853+0000) > > No. You can't. Unless 'one bad game' includes racial slurs or the like in your mind. \ > > It takes a pattern before you get punished. That is what I thought until I was punished. I was Honor 4 before my punishment and regularly got honored in my games. It took one player going the extra mile to report me in the game client and outside and I was punished. No racial slurs or derogatory comments, just calling him out as an awful player with no map awareness. I know it sounds crazy, but this is really what it was. I understand it was still negative on my part and I should have acted better, but I have been treated far worse and know those players were not punished for their actions. My whole situation is crazy tbh. I was shocked when I pulled up the game client to see my restriction.
: I am honor 2 :)
Congrats. I unfortunately received my restriction only a week ago, so there is 0 chance that I will get to honor 2 before the end of the season. I hate how you can have one bad game and all your rewards are lost.
Azca33 (NA)
: Does Anyone Else Think the Punishment System is Really Unfair?
My chat restriction is gone so my logs don't show up in the client. Supposedly you need to pay a small processing fee to get them. Chat logs are only available in reform cards due to a behavioral occurrence. Otherwise, you can retrieve your chat logs at our privacy page for a small processing fee. https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/help-support/Y1EZ3qrE-how-do-you-find-your-chat-logs
rujitra (NA)
: You don’t get a punishment for one game unless it is **extremely** bad. Even if you’re only presented one game in your reform card, you likely have multiple other “bad games” that just weren’t displayed. Contacting support can provide you more context on your punishment. Keep in mind that toxicity is not okay in League - it doesn’t matter if it’s one game or ten - it’s not okay.
> [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iA0JHVgG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-11-06T19:50:59.916+0000) > > You don’t get a punishment for one game unless it is **extremely** bad. > > Even if you’re only presented one game in your reform card, you likely have multiple other “bad games” that just weren’t displayed. Contacting support can provide you more context on your punishment. > > Keep in mind that toxicity is not okay in League - it doesn’t matter if it’s one game or ten - it’s not okay. That is what I thought until I got punished. How do I find my chat logs and I will post them?
: Think about it this way. After 20 years of good behavior you one day shoot someone in the face with a gun. "But officer, ive been good for 20 years. Cant i just be bad this one time?" "Cant argue with that. Have a nice day." Its absurd. You do something wrong, you get punished. Simple as that.
> [{quoted}](name=TheHobbits,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=iA0JHVgG,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-11-06T19:58:53.610+0000) > > Think about it this way. After 20 years of good behavior you one day shoot someone in the face with a gun. "But officer, ive been good for 20 years. Cant i just be bad this one time?" > "Cant argue with that. Have a nice day." > > Its absurd. You do something wrong, you get punished. Simple as that. Are you actually comparing telling someone they are playing horrible in a video game to murder? I just want to confirm. If so, this is an awful analogy.
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: Probably because the only way this game is fun is if you play with friends.
> [{quoted}](name=Bob the Toastr,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=E4tQ1J8p,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-11-05T17:01:51.309+0000) > > Probably because the only way this game is fun is if you play with friends. That is what Flex Queue is for.
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Cunky (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=UVM ZhaoRiTian,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=gWmAyOON,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-11-01T22:24:31.583+0000) > > must be the wrong site its literally the site linked on the mission
> [{quoted}](name=Prince of Uganda,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=gWmAyOON,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-11-01T22:38:32.583+0000) > > its literally the site linked on the mission Are you watching a VOD? It has to be a VOD. If yes, put in a ticket. I had to put in a ticket for another mission that wasn’t working.
: Every major region has won worlds but NA
EU won before the Koreans joined the tournament, so that really doesn’t count.
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: The 3rd game was their Xayah + Rakan, and Sneaky walks into 4 feathers like "Might as well lose, I mean this team just forced me to play Viktor, wtf man..."
> [{quoted}](name=AXayahAccount,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=eHjlpFLE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-28T20:09:50.354+0000) > > The 3rd game was their Xayah + Rakan, and Sneaky walks into 4 feathers like "Might as well lose, I mean this team just forced me to play Viktor, wtf man..." I’m a gold player and I said to myself, “watch the feathers” and bam dead. That was an awful mistake for sneaky. Sneaky performed well during the Alfreeca games, but the rest of the time at worlds was a very poor performance. I think it may be time for sneaky to retire.
: C9 Sven with that shitty tower dive on Viktor...lmao.
> [{quoted}](name=Summonah12369,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=eHjlpFLE,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-10-28T19:50:19.510+0000) > > C9 Sven with that shitty tower dive on Viktor...lmao. This was a calculated move. He saw Lee and LB collapsing in on him so he knew that if he backed out he was dead anyways. So he decided to try and get a kill.
: c9 was so bad they picked Tristana game 1 with a wonky like early game sort of comp and then picked Viktor adc just to try to "throw a wrench" in their plan. Sneaky walks into 4 feathers and buys d shield as a bully lane because he is done and ready to just lose. C9 just didn't show up to play and 100% deserves to lose.
> [{quoted}](name=AXayahAccount,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=eHjlpFLE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-10-28T12:18:51.289+0000) > > c9 was so bad they picked Tristana game 1 with a wonky like early game sort of comp and then picked Viktor adc just to try to "throw a wrench" in their plan. Sneaky walks into 4 feathers and buys d shield as a bully lane because he is done and ready to just lose. > > C9 just didn't show up to play and 100% deserves to lose. I agree. All C9 players didn’t show up today. No one looked good.
Swimmx (NA)
: C9 threw with the constant Liss and Ekko picks.
This is exactly what happened during the NALCS finals against TL. They picked losing comps over and over again. The twitch wasn’t working for them but yet they picked him all 3 games. This was the same thing. Liss and Ekko didn’t look good at all, but they kept picking them. Their draft was awful. Unfortunately, this wasn’t a close semis at all. It was a complete stomp by FNC. So disappointing.
Azca33 (NA)
: So Gold Chromas are impossible to get by doing just the quests?
Anyone know how long the halloween Chromas will stay? Tbh I would rather get the Gold Chroma Trick or Treat Ekko, but wondering if I will have enough coins to get it before they are gone.
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: There should be another tournament like Worlds.
They know there is no money in it. Its just like the NBA and WNBA. Very few people enjoy watching a weaker and less competitive league.
: I don't feel like NA teams theory craft at all
That is the problem. You have the Korean teams which are heavily funded with game analyst working out every scenario and team comp possible. That is why people look to Korea for everything because they spend the most money to determine the absolute best way to win in gaming. Gaming is life in Korea. It is a little different in the west.
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