: I like the concept. I have always felt like it would be interesting for a single champion to make an early choice that determines the playstyle during that game. I'm not sure that Riot really likes that sort of champion though, simply because they haven't done anything like that before. That is not to say that they couldn't or shouldn't, just that they haven't. I'm curious as to how you would suggest that Chi collects good or bad energy. Would it simply be a decision made at first level or would it be something that could potentially change throughout the match? Would it be determined based on actions? If this is the case, what would Chi look like before settling on the Ama or Aru form? I really like the soulbound lantern idea you mentioned. I think it would be cool to make this an ability, maybe their E in both forms, where Chi temporarily breaks the bond of the lantern and is free to pass through terrain within a certain range and for a certain amount of time before it is drawn back to the lantern. Returning willingly could refund some of the cooldown. I also wonder about Aru's possession ability. I would assume that Aru is able to posses minions based on the image you provided, but what would that do really? Obviously they would be directly controlled as far as movement and targeting, but would this increase the minion's health, resistances, attack form, damage, .. ? I would imagine that it would at the very least increase the health of the minion because minions are pretty easily killed by champions. And then what happens when the minion is killed, is Aru returned to its ghost form with or without damage? Also, can Aru possess only allied minions, only enemy minions, or both? Can Aru possess neutral monsters, and if so are there size restrictions, small, large, epic? Consider Aru possessing a small raptor vs the large raptor, or consider the possibility of Aru potentially even possessing something like Dragon, Rift Herald, or even Baron? Does possessing something deal damage to it? If Aru possesses an enemy minion or neutral monster, it could deal damage over time like the negative energy causes the target to decay. This would limit their ability to grab a minion or monster and just sit in it forever. I obviously had a lot of questions about possession, but I guess it would only be fair to ask about Ama's tether as well. I guess if I were to attempt to answer some of my own questions I would imagine Aru's possession being something that he would want to do to harm the enemy, and Ama's tether would be used to help allies. You mentioned that this would allow allies to share mana/energy regen. I think it would be safe to assume that this is referring to allied champions. I wonder however, if Aru is able to posses enemy minions, Ama should maybe be able to tether with allied minions. Maybe Ama can still share mana/energy with allied champions, but when tethered to an allied minion it could heal, shield, or buff them. Similarly, if Aru is able to possess neutral monsters, maybe Ama can charm neutral monsters. Then we come back to champions. If Ama is able to tether with allied champions, maybe Aru should be able to possess enemy champions. This sounds pretty broken, but it could be heavily restricted by a time limit, and the duration could be lowered further by allowing other enemy champions to target the possessed champion and dealing damage to it, which would deal damage to Aru directly. Overall, this is a very interesting concept. I would obviously like to get your thoughts on some of the questions I asked, as well as hear more about what you think the Ultimate would do. You show an ultimate with energy and without energy, please elaborate on that. And of course, assuming you accept my idea for their E, you still need an ability for their Q respectively. Looking forward to seeing more.
Hi thanks for the feedback and support :D. I was thinking that Chi would choose level 1 which role they would like to be before they get level 2 or when they leave the base so they can choose their play style early game. At the start of the game they could always start as good since it could be accepted that Chi is well...good at that point lol since it is on a 'team' then it can choose to become corrupt to be Aru or stay Ama. As for possession I was thinking whatever Aru possesses will be buffed to a certain percent. I would think it should possess only enemy minions and small jungle monsters as Aru isn't strong enough to possess anything very large. When Aru is inside the possessed body the ability can be changed to 'Consume' which will allow it to activate that ability to just kill the body and absorb it's energy. This energy consumed is stackable up to a max number. That brings the next point with Ama who I also think should be able to tether to minions. Now Ama will collect energy from helping allies and Aru from killing his possessed souls. This stacked energy can be used with their ult which could be a toggle ability that consumes all the stacks and allows them to turn into their larger shape-shifted form, whereas if they do not have the max number of stacks they turn into a weaker smaller creature. The idea with Aru's possession killing the body is also an interesting mechanic that can allow for the player to only be a 'minion' for a short period. When the body is attacked by something else Aru will take some damage and not be able to collect the energy. Maybe this collected energy could have a duration, possess for X-second and tether for X-seconds, anything less ans no energy is absorbed. And as for the Q I was thinking some type of ghost oriented projectile attack maybe throwing ghostly shards or something lol Thanks again for the response :)
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: Well sadly, this is a team game and Riot has basically ignored everything that doesn't require you to play as a team. It's a really good concept though.
Thats why i said OR 2v2v2 paired teams
: The only way this works is if everyone plays the same chance, so a lotto pick.
: I like the idea of a ffa or 2v2v2 or whatever, but im not sure about the day night cycle, unless the only thing it would affect at all is the vorgoo then i can see it maybe working but i dont think a day night cycle is something we should introduce to league, it seems like an unnecessary mechanic that would require the tuning of all the champions for
I didnt mean for it to be a day night cycle just a moon cycle so maybe it could be like a map that is eternal night...it is a magical world after all lol
: I love this idea only the name is to close to howling abyss to much that it seems a bit lazy you know maybe the Bubbling Bog which might fit in more
I thought it was too similar as well but 'Howling Marsh' is an actual place in league of legends. If riot makes it im sure they'd fix the name ;)
: How about a point system: Alone kills: 30 points Group kills: 30 points split (% damage dealt) --/OR/-- Assist: 15 points Buff kills: 10 points Skeleton kills: 2 point each Goo kill: 50 points Death: -20 points Picking the healing pixie thing: -5 points This way killing is the main point of the game, but you still get points from other stuff. The negative points from healing is to avoid people from camping the heal points all game and to give supports a reason to exist in this gamemode
I like the idea :D!! i'll add it in thanks!
: Well thought out suggestions. Only concern I have is that having a game's victory conditions depend solely on number of kills will inevitably lead to balance/frustration issues. If a player falls back far enough to be unable to kill any other player, there needs to be **alternate goals** they can fall back to.
good point, maybe they can add like idk 'nexus shards' that give you points if you collect them since in the lore nexus crystals seem to be like some type of valued powerful commodity
: But what about some of us who main support? {{item:3070}}{{item:3070}}{{champion:16}}{{item:3070}}{{item:3070}}
Then the 2v2v2 would fix that since u can team up with someone like each pair has a support
Shadula (NA)
: wait, wouldnt you be able to spawn kill still if the person who teleports to the map is immune **AND** cant deal damage? You would just wait for the immunity to wear off then kill them since they cant kill you. Should be you're just immune to damage I think.
True i'll edit it so it's only immune to taking damage.
: Love the idea, I've felt like we've needed a good new map for a while now. This would be a great addition. I like that you've added my camps and monsters with different buffs instead of replicas of the current ones. Hope this gets some notice ;)
Thanks! hope it gets noticed to! lol
: Awesome concept!! Would play for sure. Ps. I really like your drawings :P
: "Vorgoo" is a fantastic name for a monster. I approve, map and all! {{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
: I like the idea, but I feel like the only champions who would see play would be fighters and skirmishing assassins.
True, Then I guess they can make it so there is a Free For All mode of it and a 2v2v2 mode where you can team up with a friend and have supports or tanks
: > [{quoted}](name=Azzmo,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=zHr00aOH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-04T22:58:37.733+0000) > > The 'Howling Marsh' is already the name of a real area in runeterra lol it could be that it was named so by vorgroo's shrieks or it could be names howling because of the undead souls that still roam the marsh. It was the location for Karthus' old lore.
^ and it's tied to {{champion:3}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:78}}
: no poro snax? :( I want to feed the swamp demon poros!
Voidrey (NA)
: Does the Vorgroo make this howling sound that might be the reason behind the name "Howling Swamp"?
The 'Howling Marsh' is already the name of a real area in runeterra lol it could be that it was named so by vorgroo's shrieks or it could be names howling because of the undead souls that still roam the marsh.
Fishtaco (NA)
: vorgroo that is the cutest name I have ever heard for an evil swamp-monster
: I liked the opening quote, and the map location idea that works w/ th lore creatures are gud ideas too
Thank you :D. Hope riot likes it too! lol
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: this is a really nice concept it was funny too
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: Find another way for roob, just sounds like the actual verb rub
thanks i changed the name how does it sound now? :)
: I think it could be a cool concept, but his quotes kind of suck.
thanks for the feedback :D, yeh i couldnt come up with any good quotes since it was late at night that i post this in a hurry, got any suggestions?
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: If her eyes weren't so weird she'd look adorable
: Azzmo, did you make the video? If so, awesome! Lop
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CrapNeon (NA)
: very interesting concept, could be a great champ. just need to work out some the details on whether or not archy Q does knock back, as will as the shadow does pull. but it looks promising XD{{sticker:slayer-pantheon-thumbs}}
Azzmo (NA)
: challenge accepted {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
And maybe a group of themed skins like this can be released with some type of voodoo doll themed champion :O yes? no? maybe? ??
: I keep suggesting Sewn Chaos when appropriate. I'd love to see some more of that theme.
challenge accepted {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Azzmo,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=5HlEfJEj,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-25T02:29:42.318+0000) > > dont worry about his Ult Q it sounds op but it's just like an alternative ability for his pets to get a kill. all right i believe you .
not sure it would be made in game lol but it was sure fun making annie a dark twisted relative to play with XD
Azzmo (NA)
: I dont think he's that op, his abilities dont do much if he doesnt have his shadows, and since his E snares the closest first target it will be easy to dodge with minions. His W can be dodged aswell if u time the summoned stone, and his shadow pets are killable with a low health thus u have the ability to take out 2 of his abilities every time u kill his shadowpet. You can only get 1 shadow pet at the begining of the game and u have that pet only for the entire game period. his pets do damage less or equal to that to minions with basic attacks and normal damage with Q and R as other champions Q and R. I think it's quiet fit for being balanced if not atleast close to being balanced. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
dont worry about his Ult Q it sounds op but it's just like an alternative ability for his pets to get a kill.
: too op this is like udyr except casting shadows of animals but i do like it but just nerf it a bit and it'll be fine .
I dont think he's that op, his abilities dont do much if he doesnt have his shadows, and since his E snares the closest first target it will be easy to dodge with minions. His W can be dodged aswell if u time the summoned stone, and his shadow pets are killable with a low health thus u have the ability to take out 2 of his abilities every time u kill his shadowpet. You can only get 1 shadow pet at the begining of the game and u have that pet only for the entire game period. his pets do damage less or equal to that to minions with basic attacks and normal damage with Q and R as other champions Q and R. I think it's quiet fit for being balanced if not atleast close to being balanced. {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
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: Yes but it sounds fine, and Annie was created in beta, when they were more carefree. Names should be a little more special than.... Pablo. If you want a spanish theme, maybe look up some cool spanish words.
: I think it's a really great idea. Not sure about the name. Maybe something like Sombra (which is Spanish for Shadow) sounds like a name that could easily be fit into league, unique and fitting for him.
: We're not seriously calling him Pablo? That's like the most common name ever right behind Mohamed and Dan.
: If Riot doesn't adopt this I will be very mad. Please send in a ticket. Please don't make him a Zed. We don't need the cliche shadow-ninja,
Hhaha i hope they see it too lol tweet it out get it out their :D
: Can he be tied more with Jinx, like she takes him in as like her Robin. It's about time Jinx starts making a team of super-villains.
well since he left demacia i suppose he could have met jinx in piltover lol
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: Even better than his release skin, love it!
: This is even before he is released. Riot, hire this guy.
: that looks more like it should be named atlantean Aurelion sol
: Wow this is really cool. Very unique abilities as well and I love the story and detail!
: Blood Moon Zyra Concepts
"Here's the lineup of the concept sketches!" dont u mean 'HAIR's' the lineup... he he hehe XD no?....ok ._.
: This sounds really neat, can't wait to see it in person. :)
Katgut (OCE)
: Pearls instead of stars is a neat idea!
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