: Just would like to point out that YOU CANNOT one shot anyone with Veigar's ultimate. They need to have been damaged already because his ultimate is an execute.
pfff you can if you have enough AP, and the target has low enough hp naturally. Example being Sona or Yuumi.
DUDE BRO (NA)
: If I'm mid against ahri, veiger, or even zed I'm having fun because I know I can dodge their skillshots, exploit their weaknesses, etc. It is fun because I always have options and if I lose I know they were really good, or I played poorly. Even if they're ahead I can still outplay and win fights. When I play against a master yi who is 0/7 then 1v5 pentakills our entire team, I am not having fun.
Completely Agree except that u have it backwards. Midlane champs that make u feel that way are Zoe, Sylus, & Mordekaiser, all new champs who just are overloaded. Master Yi is simple. Auto attack only nerf he needs is Q cooldown. Counterplay is someone like Shen and dont let him reset. tada Sylus the kind of guy to take veigar ult, one shot adc with just scaling, dash in, do tons of AoE to last 4, then get his stealing ult back up just to steal lulu ult and BM.
Rioter Comments
Targon (NA)
: Pretty sure you didn't even read my post, but if you did, not sure where in my post you think I'm calling for Pyke buffs. The thread is about newer champions having their kits overloaded. My post was talking about Pyke in particular, whose kit I believe is overloaded, in particular his R with its gold generating mechanic on kills, and his W being so overloaded at rank 1.
2. You talk about no incentive to level pyke, thus suggesting giving him a insentive. I want the insentive to be that it's better than his other stuff through nerfs, not buffs, but it comes off the other way.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1iGdvHe2,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-05-25T16:41:35.956+0000) > > Easiest fucking fix for invisible champs is making pink wards what they used to be. Anti-Invisible Champs, and pinks can burn through gold so yeh. I don’t think that’s a permanent fix. For one, that’s a wasted slot for late game trying to counter just one single champion. Maybe something like sweeper? And only making Akali targetable with vision would be a drastic change, and I myself would not know how to balance that.
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosFross,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=1iGdvHe2,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2019-05-25T17:11:33.233+0000) > > I don’t think that’s a permanent fix. For one, that’s a wasted slot for late game trying to counter just one single champion. Maybe something like sweeper? > > And only making Akali targetable with vision would be a drastic change, and I myself would not know how to balance that. was already balanced at one point in old league. Prevents assassins from just sitting on your team while u all try to kill her and she tears you apart while her team hammers u down.
: Akali Changes - Good and the Bad
Easiest fucking fix for invisible champs is making pink wards what they used to be. Anti-Invisible Champs, and pinks can burn through gold so yeh.
Targon (NA)
: There are two things that have always bothered me about Pyke. 1. Death from Below granting both him and the most recent assisting ally full kill gold is just bonkers to me. That's so much extra gold generated for his team when he kills. I've always felt it should grant Pyke the assist gold, and his assisting ally the kill gold. 2. There's almost no incentive to putting more than 1 point into Ghostwater Dive. The ability is very strong for a rank 1 ability, and putting points into it only reduces the base cooldown by 0.5 seconds. The mana cost, duration, and movement speed bonus stay the same. I've always thought that this ability should be weaker at earlier ranks.
This is a thread about nerfing him, not buffing. chill.
: Exactly and then on top of that he can steal any ult on the enemy team. Insane is the right word LOL might just be the most overloaded champ riot has ever made.
Zoe would like to say otherwise. FREE SUMMONER SPELLS FOR EVERYONE! who is me. and only me. IGNITE IGNITE IGNITE IGNITE {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:14}}
: @Riot Meddler/Reav3s - Where is Mage Itemization/Rune Update Promises?
Damage in general is too op. I say we butcher Mages & Assassins. screw it, butcher adc dmg too. EVERYTHING needs to be lowered, including runes. BUTCHER IT ALL!
: Getting Tired
LMFAO DUDE. are you fricken high??? Tank meta??? WHERE DOE??
Saezio (EUNE)
: Out of curiosity, how much money have you spent on League thus far?
My old account i've spent atleast $1200 bucks. I haven't spent a dime though since s7 when it went down hill. Money for a company shows whether the product is good or not and I believe it ain't good atm.
Rioter Comments
mack9112 (NA)
: what in the world did u just say I honestly cant follow
going 120 mph in the brain. All I said is to much dmg.
mack9112 (NA)
: the game is in a healthy state...
lol. That's like the healthy at every size movement when people are carrying an extra 300 pounds. Just like league has an extra 300 overkill worth of dmg atleast for every assassin. fat champs.
: Classic League
YOU HEAR THAT RIOT!? Want a quick buck? setup the old league for season 2-4 and let us pay to play that. old runes, masteries, and none of the new champions. I'd gobble that shit up and so would my wallet.
: Yuumi proves how utterly clueless this forum is.
I already hate her but that's cause she is sona 2.0 expect she can be untargetable. That is the perfect support, idk why the boards would think shes bad haha.
Rioter Comments
Moody P (NA)
: ADC players don't seem to grasp the reason they are squishy
I didn't read your whole post cause it's to fucking long and im tired. what I will say cause im assuming you're crying about the revert is that EVERYTHING DOES TO MUCH FUCKING DMG. ADCS did not do as much and thus i'd prefered if EVERYTHING GOT NERFED but riot doesn't think like me. Now about adcs blowing u up if u dont blow them up, thats unhealthy in general. ADCS are meant to do constant dmg that scales and scales. so when let's say u have 100 hp. i hit for 10 and it drops n drops till u die. Now assassins are meant to do 100-50-0 but have a long cooldown. what isnt right is how ALL ASSASSINS HAVE ESCAPES NOW! So we have to bend the rules a little. then u have this shit now because instead of trying to control the mobility creep, they added dmg creep. it's why sejuani hits me like a fucking fright train. Blame riot and every single role, not adcs for wanting to do enough dmg to keep up. adcs were useless for literally a year (8.13, the day i quit)
Napoleon3 (EUNE)
: im adicted too feels bad that i have no life:(.
hey man. i've quit, i just come to spread the word on the boards. Hopefully help those who wont notice themselves.
Sucction (OCE)
: It's more that melee dps champs no named Jax just get nuked before they get their dps off. Even Yasuo is sorta suffering even with his avoidance tools, as much as I freaking hate him.
disagreed with. Yasuo's kit is overloaded and if he loses it's cause he blows donkey dick (the player)
Lovelle (NA)
: Pretty much all the melee auto-attackers are struggling, except for Jax because he got buffed a while back.
I would also say that is wrong. Melee's aren't weak, it's just everything is to strong. Melee's don't need a buff. Ranged aren't the only ones busted btw. Plenty of melee's are still overpowered af
: I know Yi is not op, but plss
This may shock you, but Yi is one of the weakest champions now. His ults speed boost is laughable, his Q must reset (which isnt common because he cant oneshot like other champs. THE ONLY ONE IN THIS META), his E has a rebound (less dmg), and his W just prevents the inevitable. I could also argue Mundo is completely useless. I remember crying about his 100% healing ult, but that's not busted when he dies twice in the same time it used to take to kill him once.
: ive killed a few akali in shroud with donger. just gotta watch the movement and predict your e
The fact that you have to predict the way she E's you from where in the shroud. . . btw heimer doesn't have as much multi tasking and his turrets can be used to block her E
: Counterplay should extend past champ select.
Nothing counters Akali's shroud. Really makes you think.
: Riot's Discipline System: The Illusion of Quality
I know alot of people disagree with you, but being one of the people who was permabanned but addicted came back n' kept playing. . . You're right. However they did unban my main account with the mass unban experiment and im still unbanned, but that's probably because I refuse to play this game. I used to love the old league. 4-5Months clean.
: Trading Skins!
No. If I was a business I wouldn't do this. it will decrease sells. Fuck that. If they don't, I completely understand why they wouldn't.
Anatera (NA)
: Just stop playing isn't a solution that's applicable to everyone. Stop passing it off as some easy answer like those dumb late night get rich quick commercials.
Sounds like you're addicted :O Probably need to cold turkey it and drop the drugs
Minarde (NA)
: What if I still enjoy the game itself, but it's Riot's management of the game that frustrates me? For example, why is Twisted Treeline being even more neglected? Despite Normal SR granting Mastery tokens, Ranked TT somehow still isn't "competitive enough" for them. Moreover, the two most recent events and Passes have specifically excluded 3v3s. Ranked Treeline games don't count towards the Ranked Season 2019 commemorative Missions. How does that make sense? Then there's all the resources thrown at Nexus Blitz. The temporary mode that's possibly being made permanent got more balance changes than ARAM and TT, which *are* permanent, have gotten in several years combined. Plus, there's the fact that NB got balance changes at all when Riot specifically stated that map-specific balance changes for strength were no longer being considered. Blitz also got more advertisement (e.g. news posts, devblogs) than Treeline has ever gotten. It stinks that League itself continues to be (mostly) enjoyable while the environment outside the game continues to be atrocious. Riot's not inexperienced with having multiple game modes either. Similar issues have been around since before Dominion got removed years ago. It just feels increasingly likely that Riot's gathering up another flimsy justification and abysmal consolation before trying to push people onto the Rift again.
I agree, and it's hard to change the management at the top. All you can do is lump it together and do someone brazin, like a protest.
: I think people need to stop taking a game so seriously. That's why people are getting mad. You don't need to win every game, and you need to learn to enjoy (or at least be okay with) games you lose.
I made another post on why people take this game like that. It isn't just competitiveness. btw competitiveness isnt bad
: Everyone atm: nErF lUcIaN.
Everything needs nerfs. . . Not just lucian. . .
: silver bolts should work like wuju style
It really makes you wonder what the balance team gets paid for if a random nobody is coming up with better balancing ideas. No offense. To the Nobody, fuck you balancers.
Rioter Comments
: I completely agree with you. I understand the reasons behind the anger and frustration, but what I don't understand is the mentality as if it's being forced upon someone. I continue playing this game because it's what my friends play. I don't find it enjoyable to play alone, if anything I find it painful to play alone. But to me, it seems that so many of these complaints, whether they have merit or not, are about things which are optional. "I hate ARURF and it's Riot's fault" Okay, have you tried not playing ARURF? "AD sucks and I feel useless all game" Okay, have you tried not playing AD? "Riot, your skins are overpriced and I hate them!" Okay, have you tried not buying them? "Matchmaking sucks, ranked is a shitshow!" Okay, have you tried not playing ranked? I'm not sure what it is, but it seems that people feel like they have no option, that they have to tow the line, individuality and personal choice be damned. On one hand, everyone is the God of their universe, and every opinion they have should be the law, and on the other, they are slaves, victimized by things outside of their control and it's at the hands of someone else they are forced to do something they no longer enjoy. Perhaps people feel a certain attachment to something they've spent so much time enjoying. One could say they've invested their time, but I don't consider that to be true. An investment implies you will get a greater reward in the future for what you _invest_ today. If one truly considers their time playing League an investment, yet they are only getting negativity in return, they're not that great at investing. It's time to take a break.
So the part we will probably disagree on is 'Individual Choice' I don't believe in free will, and I will get to why that matters in a second. The three things that cause people to play league are: Addiction, the Earning to Loss Effect, & Rejection to Change. Addiction: So just like anything, league can become addicting. The rush from getting that winning screen gives you so much dopamine that it makes it feel worth it, even though the steps to get their were not. It's just like weed, cocaine, or any other fricken drug. Anything can be addicting. Humans naturally get addicted to heavy carb foods (wheat products) for survival, same applies to caffeine from the crash creating a reliance. Dopamine is no different from everything else in the world. When you get a taste you want more. It's how people can also get addicted to masturbation. That huge rush at the end. This will also tie into 'Rejection to Change.' Rejection to Change: Just like most creatures humans don't like change. To live comfortably without much differentiating is a nice feeling. You just feel 'safe.' It's the same reason that old people can't accept the new stuff that comes after them. The same reason my Grandpa hates black people. He refuses to change to accept the new people. Now my dad doesn't hate black people because the times move, however he hates gay people. He refuses to accept them. He refuses to accept 'change' Again, same applies to league of legends. People can't accept that it isn't the game it once was and it leads to them being stuck in a hate cycle never to leave because THEY REALLY WANT THE OLD LEAGUE BACK. the Earning to Loss Effect: Just like in gambling the person thinks like this: "If I just play another league game it won't be like the last one. It'll be better. I'll win!" 20 games later be has dropped around 500 LP's (not even possible) and he is angry at the world. He didn't think "I should cut my losses today, take a break, and maybe come back later" Humans aren't logical creatures. We are emotional and we were programmed to hunt for satisfaction, even with it being a 2:1 ratio. Empty:Satisfied. Happiness is not constant, it is a flow that rises, but can never hit a ceiling, but in reversal it will always come down. Now what this means to me is that the situations we end up in, we can easily become stuck in. Like how someone abused knowing full well this man will hit her, will more than likely find another man just like him. The want to stay the same and go back. That is why I blame the environment for the most part. Just like how islam people can be extremely fucking violent, christian people can also be extremely fucking violent. Religion isn't better than the other, It's where the people and religion are located that shapes the way that people have an outlook on it. So in short riot's game makes people sad, bitter, and angry. It's toxic and you shouldn't play if you can't avoid this effect. Now this part is personal opinion, but all this means to me is Free Will is fake. Everything in life will lead to something else, meaning u aren't what u want to be, you are what u are created. You must still be treated as though they are your actions, or then we would have to be logical and use prisons the right way for reform, not for locking people up for eternity. . . TL;DR for the randoms all I'm saying is free will is not real and u are probably addicted to league of legends. Quit while you still can.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=4KnGIAQE,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-01-30T17:52:38.097+0000) > > Being competitive is not a bad thing. People play Football, Soccer, Drawing, and plenty of others things at a competitive level. Games are the same way. The only problem is when that thing starts losing it's competitive edge, and when u are serious about something u emotionally get involved so the backlash is that much worse. It's like if Football was to randomly make a rule that you can't run while u hold the ball, you may only jog. A random rule like that would be infuriating. (Forgive me if this analogy is bad, I don't actually like football) Yeah, but when you are not playing in any soccer club, you don't really play competitively. In League, unless you are actually a part of some pro team, you shouldn't get so angry over losing. You gain nothing for your ranks, other than some skins and a border. No monetary or social gain for having that Diamond.
What a stupid argument. I could make the same argument that at the end of the day you gain nothing from playing soccer competitively and people do play it seriously even if not in a club. You'll just die in the end. You also DO gain monetary and social power from climbing in league. It has gotten that big. You can branch into streaming, youtube, e-sports, or boosting. That's alot of options.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: I'm pissed off mostly at reworks. You know, because they all fucking suck. ...and maaaaaybe once or twice because of certain elements on boards, but that's a minor thing for me. Thing is, i like the game. I like playing it, and seeing that Victory screen is still pretty satisfying for me, and i don't really mind OP characters that much. It's sad that we lose people because of how seriously players take games today, but i guess nothing will change that.
Being competitive is not a bad thing. People play Football, Soccer, Drawing, and plenty of others things at a competitive level. Games are the same way. The only problem is when that thing starts losing it's competitive edge, and when u are serious about something u emotionally get involved so the backlash is that much worse. It's like if Football was to randomly make a rule that you can't run while u hold the ball, you may only jog. A random rule like that would be infuriating. (Forgive me if this analogy is bad, I don't actually like football)
Rioter Comments
Rock MD (NA)
: "I'm not going to abuse that champion because I don't want to ruin the game for others."
1)I used to believe what you said till the game got worse and worse. If you play any of the new champions their kit is more loaded than yours, thus putting them at an advantage. So it is true that when u play a certain pool of champions u have the advantage. Examples being Zoe, Neeko, Akali, Camille. 2)There is a difference between something aggravating someone and aggravating the majority. N O O N E likes zoe. i mean no one. No one likes when they can't play (example being again, akali's shroud), no one likes getting caught by someone who does even more dmg than you. A game needs trade offs and new champions don't have those trade off, thus making them more aggravating. 3)This is the stupidest shit I've heard. You can already have explored it and understand it, but also not like it. A good example is playing jax conquerer and not liking how now instead of just having ap & ad (which is hard enough to balancce as one on the same champ) he now has true dmg. ffs 4)I agree that they are a shit friend, but they aren't entirely wrong. When the adc nerfs came out I played Z O E FUCKING ADC and i won more than i did with adc. The game is built in a way (or was) to have a balance among the classes, and now it's gone. Not as in a class is missing, but that the other classes are to strong. ADC doesn't need buffs, everything needs nerfs. To close out I agree league is 'just a game' but that isn't a good excuse. Football is just a sport, now that doesn't stop someones competitive drive, and it shouldn't. Now what I will say is if something makes you angry and bitter all the time, you probably should seperate from it, and it's exactly why I have quit league. The reason I check boards is because I was in love with this game for 5 years. I hit diamond in it and i still love it. Just not the current league. It is really sad, but one can hope. xx Bubble Butt xx CYA
: Delete One: Champion, Item, and Rune
Champion would be {{champion:142}} first {{champion:84}} the rework one second {{champion:518}} third and any champion after camille next. For an item to delete, I'd delete {{item:3077}} To beneficial for just 1200 gold. For the Rune it'd be Conquerer. True damage is unhealthy for the game. It should not exist. The same goes for Infinity Edge. needs revert.
PavLoo (NA)
: -You should be allowed to insult your team, you won't see them again. I highly disagree.
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=utVLp1dF,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-01-20T03:39:48.195+0000) > > I'm personally fine with telling some to "Eat shit and screw off" but to insult family, or try to target attack them is when I disagree with what they do. Some people have thicker skin, thought the majority of LoL players have a mental discorder. That's why they are still playing. > Just as long as league is competitive, there will be insults, and when u control the insults completely people get creative. A good example of this is when kids turn into furries. They aren't born a furry, it's just the parent controls their view of the world, and in return their brain get's wired differently. Meh. I am almost never offended by standard banter or trash talking. Most of the time it is funny and would be fun to take part in if there were not automated systems reviewing things to find reasons to ban people. The only things that are truly inappropriate, I feel, are things that are meant as direct and harsh targeted attacks or things that are based on actual hate. I could care less if someone says their mid laner (me) may as well be a dumpster fire. Whatever. Either I am having a bad game, or I am getting trolled, or they are just being a jerk. None of this really bothers me. :) But there are some things that really do not need to be said to someone because they have no place in a game. Though I am a much bigger fan of the mute button than a system of reporting.
Agreed. A G R E E D. Whole heartedly agree
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EgFX7Tdm,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-01-20T03:26:01.896+0000) > > Just like with jax. It's not him, it's that stupid Conquerer. AD boost + True Damage. Fair. To say it's not him is a bit of a stretch. His strength with on-hit items and hybrid scaling gives him all the opportunity to counter defense without actually having to change his playstyle, since his ultimate scales AP and AD instead of Mr and Ar like it probably should.
> [{quoted}](name=DeceasedL0ved0ne,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=EgFX7Tdm,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2019-01-20T07:34:37.703+0000) > > To say it's not him is a bit of a stretch. His strength with on-hit items and hybrid scaling gives him all the opportunity to counter defense without actually having to change his playstyle, since his ultimate scales AP and AD instead of Mr and Ar like it probably should. You actually just made a good point. I forgot that he has double scaling. It explains why he's broken like kaisa and corki (corki if u scoot stat up like 10)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TgnccK8s,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-01-20T03:15:53.000+0000) > > Knowing Riot Games they will start doing scummy shit like not giving refunds, doubling the prices, and possibly make it pay to play. Then they will ditch when the game is basically dead. That is my thought, but they don't have any other games, only one in the making so im confused as to their plan. Riot is going to put the "s" in their name with another game https://www.pcgamesn.com/legends-of-runeterra. Little is known, only that they trademarked some new shit.
> [{quoted}](name=destroyer22719,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TgnccK8s,comment-id=000a0000,timestamp=2019-01-20T03:25:34.359+0000) > > Riot is going to put the "s" in their name with another game https://www.pcgamesn.com/legends-of-runeterra. Little is known, only that they trademarked some new shit. Thanks brother. Will check it out.
Syrile (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Bμbble Butt,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=utVLp1dF,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-01-20T03:04:56.009+0000) > > The game creates a bad environment. Instead of focusing on toxicity they should focus on making the game work. You should be allowed to insult your team, you won't see them again. Personal Opinion. This is my thought, I don't feel like explaining my process unless asked. I do not disagree with this to an extent. I think there is a big difference between harassment and making comments or trash-talking and such. There is also a huge difference between attacking someone based on race or saying, "you suck"
I'm personally fine with telling some to "Eat shit and screw off" but to insult family, or try to target attack them is when I disagree with what they do. Some people have thicker skin, thought the majority of LoL players have a mental discorder. That's why they are still playing. Just as long as league is competitive, there will be insults, and when u control the insults completely people get creative. A good example of this is when kids turn into furries. They aren't born a furry, it's just the parent controls their view of the world, and in return their brain get's wired differently.
: Baseless Claims
Just like with jax. It's not him, it's that stupid Conquerer. AD boost + True Damage. Fair.
: I love how surprised people are when a new bad patch comes
Usually if something isn't being done right, you stop using the product. Circuits and Shields. Check it out.
Kryptone (EUNE)
: League in 2071
The fact that league is alive in 2071 is a miracle in of itself.
: macOS Mojave - Microphone permissions - League Voice
Why would you want to play though? That's the real atrocity. . .
: Season 9 A.K.A Season 8 part 2
Guys. if it's that bad. . . THEN QUIT! The only person who can stop you from doing drugs is yourself. I've stopped and if I can, you can to.
: Unreasonably banned
Upper Management in Riot Games is very bad. That's why the support team is utter garbage. Another recent post had his account randomly banned and they accused him of being toxic, then when he said "show me the logs" they responded with "dur-uh-ah. we -uh- shit. we meant we caught u hacking and cant show u how we detect it." because they have to show you logs. Honestly bad employees, but it's just a symptom of the god awful management.
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