: Keep us updated on how this pans out. It seems like we're all in agreement that not only is this NOT ban worthy, but also discrimination on RIOT's part against you for being a good old fashioned southern english speaker. Not only should the ban be lifted, but they should probably compensate you for their error, as discrimination based on any kind of race or cultural part is forbidden by law to companies that deal with consumers. Don't let them tell you the good old fashioned, "Because you play our game, we reserve the right to ban any action we sit fit," yada yada yada. That doesn't apply if the company is discriminating against you because of race.
sorry forgot to uupdate this thread but yes they got back to me and agreed it was BS and lifted the suspension.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-16T06:44:09.701+0000) > > 1. When, if ever, have you had prior punishments on this account. > > 2. Making fun of someone's language or trying to tell them they must speak your language is racist. Period. You then admit that you were toxic in other ways. However, your behavior trying to force your language onto others was racist and thus would potentially be cause for an escalated punishment. > > 3. Riot only has a certain number of officially supported languages - but this applies only to the product Riot releases. There is no mandate for anyone to speak a particular language in game. He didnt make fun of there language wtf man? Read chat logs much?
: > [{quoted}](name=Ph03n1xb1rd,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=0002000300000001,timestamp=2019-05-16T11:53:53.221+0000) > > Wut? O.o What else does it refers to? > > Well, i've never heard the word in this context, but okay. Guess i'm just too conservative, to call everything racist what i do not like. > > Also, in which world is asking someone to speak a common language racist? How is it any kind of discrimination? People who share this new "PC" ideology are immune to reason, from what I can tell.
Please read my final edit on the original post!
: He is just racist against you because of your usage of language :D He deserves a ban!
Please read my final edit on the original post!
: > [{quoted}](name=Babygirl Yuumi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-05-16T18:34:27.783+0000) > > After reading these comments i have 50% faith in humanity and also have 50% lost it all. > > Legit to get offended over a simple question such as "Can y'all speak english?" Is the reason Society is falling. Everyone WANTS to be offended, even when the statement wasn't in any way an offensive statement. It was purely a question that coorelated to the HUGE impact that COMMUNICATION makes on the game as a whole. I never said "speak english for us" i never demanded. I simply asked if they could. Not even if they WOULD. > > And y'all just gunna get offended over something like that and say i deserve a 2 week suspension and lose 15$ i put into this game for a simple damn question. Yall make me sad. > > If this is how it's gunna be, then consider me never, NEVER typing after this pure BULLSHIT. And if my teammates complain about communication issues since i wont talk, well fuck them amirite? because i cant risk asking a single question and getting banned again! Never again! Reach out to support. If you didn’t change your chat logs (some people do, not saying that you did) it doesn’t seem to appear to merit a 2 week ban. Ask support if this was accidentally placed and they will help. They have the ability to reverse or review more than anyone here. All we can do on boards is assume, we can’t look at what’s really happening. I don’t agree with rujitra’s tone or most of what he said on this post, but he isn’t a Riot employee so he cant overturn or say your ban should stay. Reach out to support! A few people have gotten bans overturned recently, and it was by going through support.
: Wrongful Suspension: Falsely Accused of Racism :/
After reading these comments i have 50% faith in humanity and also have 50% lost it all. Legit to get offended over a simple question such as "Can y'all speak english?" Is the reason Society is falling. Everyone WANTS to be offended, even when the statement wasn't in any way an offensive statement. It was purely a question that coorelated to the HUGE impact that COMMUNICATION makes on the game as a whole. I never said "speak english for us" i never demanded. I simply asked if they could. Not even if they WOULD. And y'all just gunna get offended over something like that and say i deserve a 2 week suspension and lose 15$ i put into this game for a simple damn question. Yall make me sad. If this is how it's gunna be, then consider me never, NEVER typing after this pure BULLSHIT. And if my teammates complain about communication issues since i wont talk, well fuck them amirite? because i cant risk asking a single question and getting banned again! Never again!
rujitra (NA)
: >Babygirl Yuumi: do yall speak any english This line comes across not as "Would you please speak English so we can all understand", it comes across as "wow, you don't speak English, smh". You then said this: >Babygirl Yuumi: if only the rest 3 of our team actually spoke english Which is, again, implying they are "lesser" or at fault because they were not speaking English. So no, you may not have used racial slurs or **directly** said that they were lesser for their race/language, but your tone, word choice, and the fact you were being insulting/aggressive towards them is the problem here. You may not have intended it, but it doesn't matter what you say, it's how it's taken by others. That is the first, cardinal, unbreakable rule of communication **it's not what you say, it's what people hear**. In the future, if you're going to be making a demand of someone, don't do so in a way that comes across as "I'm better than you, do what I say or you're lesser". Especially when such demand involves someone's race, ethnicity, culture, gender/sex, disability, or other things that you shouldn't use to abuse others. Finally, I suspect that part of the reason for the 2 week ban is the fact you have had prior chat restrictions on your account. If you remember that message, it specifically stated that continued misbehavior would result in a suspension. Even if we take out all the comments about speaking English, a vast majority of the rest of your log is toxic in and of itself. Given your history and that you didn't change/improve your behavior, the next punishment may have been a 2 week ban. Please keep in mind your next punishment after this will be a permanent ban - no matter how "small" your misbehavior.
I'm sorry that when playing on NA servers i wish to be able to actually communicate with my teammates? I think thats why i play NA and not EUW or any other server? Communication helps in the game, in fact is a LARGE factor? asking was not an issue. Nor was complaining that they couldnt. I was heated and yeah i was a bit agressive but i got accused of being a racist over nothing? lol also just want to point out that im not denying my agressive/toxic words. I know what i said, however i also know that in the beginning i was in no way being racist or putting someone else down due to their language. I was purely stating a FACT that the language barrier was causing issues in the team. Yeah i coulda said it "nicer" but i was being ACCUSED OF RACISM OVER ASKING A SIMPLE QUESTION. If yall can seriously say that that is racist then fuck you next time you meet someone foreign and LITERALLY just ask if they speak English so you can communicate with them. YOU RACIST! I've been chat restricted once, over a year ago. Probably two, i believe it was 2016/17 somewhere around there. I KNEW my behavior was wrong back then. I owned up to it and fixed a LOT of my toxic behaviors. But this? This is just straight Bullshit.
rujitra (NA)
: >Babygirl Yuumi: do yall speak any english This line comes across not as "Would you please speak English so we can all understand", it comes across as "wow, you don't speak English, smh". You then said this: >Babygirl Yuumi: if only the rest 3 of our team actually spoke english Which is, again, implying they are "lesser" or at fault because they were not speaking English. So no, you may not have used racial slurs or **directly** said that they were lesser for their race/language, but your tone, word choice, and the fact you were being insulting/aggressive towards them is the problem here. You may not have intended it, but it doesn't matter what you say, it's how it's taken by others. That is the first, cardinal, unbreakable rule of communication **it's not what you say, it's what people hear**. In the future, if you're going to be making a demand of someone, don't do so in a way that comes across as "I'm better than you, do what I say or you're lesser". Especially when such demand involves someone's race, ethnicity, culture, gender/sex, disability, or other things that you shouldn't use to abuse others. Finally, I suspect that part of the reason for the 2 week ban is the fact you have had prior chat restrictions on your account. If you remember that message, it specifically stated that continued misbehavior would result in a suspension. Even if we take out all the comments about speaking English, a vast majority of the rest of your log is toxic in and of itself. Given your history and that you didn't change/improve your behavior, the next punishment may have been a 2 week ban. Please keep in mind your next punishment after this will be a permanent ban - no matter how "small" your misbehavior.
I'm sorry that when playing on NA servers i wish to be able to actually communicate with my teammates? I think thats why i play NA and not EUW or any other server? Communication helps in the game, in fact is a LARGE factor? asking was not an issue. Nor was complaining that they couldnt. I was heated and yeah i was a bit agressive but i got accused of being a racist over nothing? lol
: > [{quoted}](name=Babygirl Yuumi,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=00020000000000000000,timestamp=2019-05-16T06:54:35.862+0000) > Game 1 > Pre-Game > Babygirl Yuumi: supp > Babygirl Yuumi: teemo or kayle can yall jg > Babygirl Yuumi: someone > Babygirl Yuumi: at least grab smite > In-Game > Babygirl Yuumi: do yall speak any english > Babygirl Yuumi: because i dont speak whatever language yall are speaking > Babygirl Yuumi: i dont even know what it is > Babygirl Yuumi: kayle > Babygirl Yuumi: do > Babygirl Yuumi: something > Babygirl Yuumi: its not racist to ask > Babygirl Yuumi: report me then, i didnt say a single racial slur > Babygirl Yuumi: learn the actual game buddy > Babygirl Yuumi: then play the damn game right > Babygirl Yuumi: im not being racist stop trying to be relevant > Babygirl Yuumi: and just PLAY THE DAMN GAME > Babygirl Yuumi: you're typing and making bad plays > Babygirl Yuumi: anothe what? person who understands what actual racism is > Babygirl Yuumi: if only the rest 3 of our team actually spoke english and helped out bot but noooo > Babygirl Yuumi: no, you arent doing okay. > Babygirl Yuumi: you arent playing well. > Babygirl Yuumi: you have kills because you play teemo. > Babygirl Yuumi: thats it. > Babygirl Yuumi: THEN HELP BOTLANE > Babygirl Yuumi: AND WIN THE DAMN > Babygirl Yuumi: "you're being racist just because we dont speak english" > Babygirl Yuumi: then tell your friend to actually do something > Babygirl Yuumi: thanks for the help you three > Babygirl Yuumi: down bot > Babygirl Yuumi: YALL NEVER HELPED DOWN BOT > Babygirl Yuumi: THATS WHY WE ARE LOSING > Babygirl Yuumi: oh no? lol > Babygirl Yuumi: how dare i type > Babygirl Yuumi: please tell me how i am being racist > Babygirl Yuumi: help would have been nice but theres no point reasoning with this useless premade > Babygirl Yuumi: you realize riot games checks chat logs right? > Babygirl Yuumi: lmfao > Babygirl Yuumi: i hate when people cry racism. it makes the actual issue much harder to punish. > Babygirl Yuumi: alright so im legit gunna report this teemo for toxicity > Babygirl Yuumi: its fine trist riot will check logs and see that teemo was harassing me > Babygirl Yuumi: and calling me racist when hes the real racist > Babygirl Yuumi: its called asking a question??? > Babygirl Yuumi: lol > Babygirl Yuumi: dont cry racism just because you got butthurt > Babygirl Yuumi: thats what babies do > Babygirl Yuumi: annie you literally have more deaths than me > Babygirl Yuumi: we stopped talking. they legit wont just shut up. im sick of being called racist and dealing with a team that cant understand each other. > Babygirl Yuumi: im legit just gunna mute. You were being extremly negativ/toxic and flamed them. Also, > Babygirl Yuumi: im legit just gunna mute. just do that next time before you tilt and start writing essays.
I'm aware i was being negative, someone was freaking calling me a racist over a blantant question??? like how does someone not get angry from that? I already admitted i should have muted but suspend able offense? hell no!
rujitra (NA)
: "Could" is a request. "any of y'all speak English" is a rude demand. Tone is important. Furthermore, if you don't speak in a polite way by default, that doesn't give you an excuse to be an ass. Most people do learn to speak politely, but if you didn't, that's on you to fix.
im sorry that my southern accent/way of typing is bad, as a matter of fact i think you are attacking me just for how i speak/type. It wasnt a rude statement. "any of y'all speak English" is literally "do any of you guys speak english" which is less rude than asking if they could speak it, because like a poster below said, "could you speak english" is more of a demand. I think this is total BS and the fact that you are literally agreeing with some toxic people who just wanted to ruin my day like that appalls me.
: Yes because as we all know if you suggest to communicate in the primary language of everyone in the server, it means you have a prejudice against people who didn't learn that language first.
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-16T06:44:09.701+0000) > > 1. When, if ever, have you had prior punishments on this account. > > 2. Making fun of someone's language or trying to tell them they must speak your language is racist. Period. You then admit that you were toxic in other ways. However, your behavior trying to force your language onto others was racist and thus would potentially be cause for an escalated punishment. > > 3. Riot only has a certain number of officially supported languages - but this applies only to the product Riot releases. There is no mandate for anyone to speak a particular language in game. He didnt make fun of there language wtf man? Read chat logs much?
I'm honestly sad that I said "It's fine trist riot checks logs and will see that the Teemo was harassing me" and I somehow end up with the suspension :( I Guess riot's "BEST BANNING BOT IN THE WORLD" doesn't actually code through the logs to see, they just assume it to be true.
: And now we wait to see if Riot, as an American company, will hold to the American ideal of "innocent until proven guilty." Good luck and godspeed!
: FUCK RIOT. JUST FUCK THE COMPANY. You know how much horrible shit is happening to this game? Its not worth playing. It is NOT worth your pain. They know it is addictive and they are trying to keep it that way so they don't loose players. At the same time doing a shitty job at handling reports and for your case, this is just plain bullSHIT. You don't deserve the 2 week suspension. I expect riot to repay you with whatever you lost and more due to this mistake they made. Sorry im really pissed off because i know what its like to feel like the only people who can fix this are the ones that fucked you over. Its horrible.
Like, i dont care about the whole issue with riot's employees leaving or whatever, because i play the game for the game not the company. But seriously? Read my logs below and please tell me if i was racist or not. I spent money on the trials pass just to have this happen. I get that in serious issues, the money doesnt matter and it is the person's fault, but i TRULY don't believe i did anything wrong here. Im just heated and angry that they get the last laugh. Makes me feel sick. Ive put my money and time into this game for 3 years and a couple random people can just accuse me of being racist and get me suspended? It may not be the same level of bad but that's like accusing someone of rape and sending them to jail when they didnt, and there is EVIDENCE that they didnt. Idk. Im heated XD
: > [{quoted}](name=rujitra,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=7pNB1nR3,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-05-16T06:44:09.701+0000) > > 2. Making fun of someone's language or trying to tell them they must speak your language is racist. Period. What does language have to do with race? Culture maybe, but race? Racism is a very serious accusation, and expecting people to speak English on the US server (The official language of the US is English, by the way) does not seem like an unreasonable expectation, especially in a game where teamwork and communication are major factors.
That's what i'm saying. I left my logs above if you would like to read them. I will admit that i got a bit heated, but seriously a suspension? They were definitely harassing me and I should have muted earlier but seriously... this sucks dude.
: I don't know how to find them again, i already closed the tab thingy and don't know how to retrieve them without paying the "small recovery fee" that riot does with chat logs.
wait im dumb i reopened the client and found them. Here are the logs. Like i said, i wasnt the nicest. I got heated over being accused of being a racist. However, I refrained from calling names and i may be wrong, but IMO i dont think this was ban-able. Logs: Game 1 Pre-Game Babygirl Yuumi: supp Babygirl Yuumi: teemo or kayle can yall jg Babygirl Yuumi: someone Babygirl Yuumi: at least grab smite In-Game Babygirl Yuumi: do yall speak any english Babygirl Yuumi: because i dont speak whatever language yall are speaking Babygirl Yuumi: i dont even know what it is Babygirl Yuumi: kayle Babygirl Yuumi: do Babygirl Yuumi: something Babygirl Yuumi: its not racist to ask Babygirl Yuumi: report me then, i didnt say a single racial slur Babygirl Yuumi: learn the actual game buddy Babygirl Yuumi: then play the damn game right Babygirl Yuumi: im not being racist stop trying to be relevant Babygirl Yuumi: and just PLAY THE DAMN GAME Babygirl Yuumi: you're typing and making bad plays Babygirl Yuumi: anothe what? person who understands what actual racism is Babygirl Yuumi: if only the rest 3 of our team actually spoke english and helped out bot but noooo Babygirl Yuumi: no, you arent doing okay. Babygirl Yuumi: you arent playing well. Babygirl Yuumi: you have kills because you play teemo. Babygirl Yuumi: thats it. Babygirl Yuumi: THEN HELP BOTLANE Babygirl Yuumi: AND WIN THE DAMN Babygirl Yuumi: "you're being racist just because we dont speak english" Babygirl Yuumi: then tell your friend to actually do something Babygirl Yuumi: thanks for the help you three Babygirl Yuumi: down bot Babygirl Yuumi: YALL NEVER HELPED DOWN BOT Babygirl Yuumi: THATS WHY WE ARE LOSING Babygirl Yuumi: oh no? lol Babygirl Yuumi: how dare i type Babygirl Yuumi: please tell me how i am being racist Babygirl Yuumi: help would have been nice but theres no point reasoning with this useless premade Babygirl Yuumi: you realize riot games checks chat logs right? Babygirl Yuumi: lmfao Babygirl Yuumi: i hate when people cry racism. it makes the actual issue much harder to punish. Babygirl Yuumi: alright so im legit gunna report this teemo for toxicity Babygirl Yuumi: its fine trist riot will check logs and see that teemo was harassing me Babygirl Yuumi: and calling me racist when hes the real racist Babygirl Yuumi: its called asking a question??? Babygirl Yuumi: lol Babygirl Yuumi: dont cry racism just because you got butthurt Babygirl Yuumi: thats what babies do Babygirl Yuumi: annie you literally have more deaths than me Babygirl Yuumi: we stopped talking. they legit wont just shut up. im sick of being called racist and dealing with a team that cant understand each other. Babygirl Yuumi: im legit just gunna mute.
rujitra (NA)
: Please post the chat logs Riot gave you as evidence for your punishment, or a screenshot of them.
I don't know how to find them again, i already closed the tab thingy and don't know how to retrieve them without paying the "small recovery fee" that riot does with chat logs.
: I will admit, i have gotten chat suspended in game before. That was over a year ago, and i have definitely worked on/improved my toxic behaviors. For your second point, I DID NOT make fun of their language, nor did i say they MUST speak english. I literally just asked if they COULD. For your last comment, like i said, i didnt care if they could i purely asked to see, because i wanted to know if communication would be an issue in the game or not.
I would also like to point out that my friend was actually saying some rude stuff to them, nothing racist but they flamed them a bit for harassing me in the game. My friend didn't get reported/panalized at all, they were purely targeting me for whatever reason.
Jamaree (NA)
: What did you say to get an instant 2 week ban or is this just a build up ban?
Honestly i have no clue, my friend agrees that I didnt say anything wrong and i havent harassed any players on games recently or for a while. Like i said to a poster above, i used to have very toxic behavior and got a chat restriction over a year ago but this is the first time that ive been suspended, and i truly do not believe that i said anything ban-able, as ive gotten better at controlling my salt/tilt.
rujitra (NA)
: 1. When, if ever, have you had prior punishments on this account. 2. Making fun of someone's language or trying to tell them they must speak your language is racist. Period. You then admit that you were toxic in other ways. However, your behavior trying to force your language onto others was racist and thus would potentially be cause for an escalated punishment. 3. Riot only has a certain number of officially supported languages - but this applies only to the product Riot releases. There is no mandate for anyone to speak a particular language in game.
I will admit, i have gotten chat suspended in game before. That was over a year ago, and i have definitely worked on/improved my toxic behaviors. For your second point, I DID NOT make fun of their language, nor did i say they MUST speak english. I literally just asked if they COULD. For your last comment, like i said, i didnt care if they could i purely asked to see, because i wanted to know if communication would be an issue in the game or not.
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> [{quoted}](name=Astronaut98,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=MZofARpU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-12-06T20:50:24.688+0000) > > i think the shop is pretty good. maybe just bad luck this time m8 Bad luck every time it seems, I'd rather not even have a shop, because at this point it just gives me hope and then crushes it XD
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