Baval (NA)
: probably because "you need to farm better" is not actionable advice. Try saying things that actually help the team, instead of being low key toxic
it is actionable advice. The action is you learn to farm better because having <100 CS at 30 mins is not acceptable. The toxic part is you thinking its toxic.
: you my friend, is what we call a meta slave. you follow the meta to a T and will give shit to anyone who goes "off meta". i never followed the meta EVER and i did well for myself. and because i never followed the meta crap i was adventurous and more than a simple OTP. and you know another disadvantage to being a meta slave? the meta can be fucked over by a little something called bans. that right. you could be a fucking M7 {{champion:157}} and won every game with him and suddenly, uh oh. enemy banned him. what will you do now? if you are an off meta free lancer like i was you have many options to play as essentially by passing bans and OTP.
My top mastery champs are Nunu (pre-rework), Ivern, and amumu. I’m such a meta slave. You’re so right.
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=e8mEquXE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-09-17T00:35:50.362+0000) > > who would ever opt into autofill....? Presumably the people who want it to be mandatory
so...... nobody?
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ksPPudVr,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-09-16T23:23:45.068+0000) > > You're playing malphite jungle and nunu support. How are you surprised that you're not doing well? LMAO YOU CANT EVEN READ A GAME HISTORY thats a very bad start for you > also, none of the games you showed here have you with a positive KDA, or really any good stats at all, besides the 1/2/7 nunu game (which you won) kda player... You're making it worse > It is quite clear by this post that your mental is weak. a board dweller talking about weak mental {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}} that sells bad for you > Instead, at the end of every game, look at YOUR OWN stats. Look at YOUR OWN performance. Watch YOUR OWN vods, and see what you could be doing better. total loser mentality, as expected > Only person you can change is you. As predicted from the first sentence... A weak-minded individual who will mold his personality into whatever the authority wants him to be... People victim from ponzi schemes or child abuse, lurking for preys to bully and regain their dignity... I see a lot of those on these boards unfortunately for you, when you pick on stronger than you... You get rekt and you feel even weaker
Wow. I don't know that I've ever seen that much projection in one place. Kudos.
: Removal is too far, but it should indeed be optional.
who would ever opt into autofill....?
: Then ask them to lane switch if they suck at their role.
nah, cuz then kids just get butthurt and troll because you OP.GG'd them and outed them for sucking, even if you're being purely altruistic -- because these spoiled snowflake kids would get upset if you told them the sky was blue.
: Get rid of autofill
I, for one, would gladly take 10+ minute queue times if I was absolutely guaranteed my role. There's no reason to punish literally everyone just because nobody wants to play support. Negative reinforcement does not equate to positive results. You want fair queues -- guarantee people their roles, and give some kind of incentive to the people who play the lesser-filled ones. Key fragments or something. Bonus honor. Extra mission rewards. Blue essence. There's a myriad of rewards this game has to offer to incentivize certain behaviors. Instead, we say "nah, fuck you -- nobody's playing support right now so I guess fuck you AND your team for this game, since you're nearly guaranteed to be shit at whatever role we auto-fill you into, and we're putting 4 other players at a disadvantage now." This is what WoW does. Not that WoW is some kind of glamorous role-model poster child for games -- but they at least do this one thing right. You get extra gold and extra items if you queue up in the less popular positions. I'll tell you what WoW doesn't do -- they don't make the resto druid the tank for the dungeon because they couldn't find a tank.
: Can someone give me some tips and tricks on playing Olaf?
: Sweeping lens needs a buff!
Same people that thought Riven and Jax needed buffs. Same people that thought Spear of Shojin was a good idea. Same people that thought Pyke was a good idea for a champion. Riot Games.
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=izhJWc81,comment-id=000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-09-17T00:04:29.089+0000) > > I don't know if I really call that kind of stuff "off-meta" though. > > When I think "off-meta" I think of people picking things like urgot support, or leblanc jungle, or some other stupid nonsense -- because they saw Viktor top with Kleptomancy work, CLEARLY AD syndra top with phase rush and trinity force is a good idea too! > > No. Its not. > > What you're talking about (seemingly) is just general game sense -- which I would agree is going to be an ever-evolving thing no matter what. right, but game sense per individual is unique. and that's how you end up with karthus mid going karthus jungle back in season 2. I was only ever decent at karthus and didn't really like melee champs. I preferred mages. i knew karthus had great wave clear and blue buff gave mana. So whenever i'd bring my karthus into the jungle i'd be called a troll. same thing with morgana support back when she was thought to be a mid. and same thing with brand/veigar/lux support. we accept it now, but back when it was just starting out it was called off-meta because the only person that knew those mechanics enough were the people that played those champs daily. i remember when zyra moved bottom lane and it created a huge uproar. ----------------- anyway - point is that off-meta isn't all that different from general game sense. if a season doesn't see a lot of one champion then the entirety of the league player base tends to ignore or forget about certain champions and their possibilities. because a majority of players dont actually stream. They're focused on learning everything they can about their champions match ups - just the same as a fighting game character might be bad at zoning and good at grappling some champion characters are good at wave clear while others are good at single target elimination. and introducing a champion that has been forgotten about by the community - such as viktor as a support or yorick as a jungler is by many considered off-meta. thereby my point still stands. -------- just because the phrase off-meta has evolved to mean "trolling player purposely handicapping themselves" it doesn't actually mean that.
My point stands as well -- it isn't some average joe bronze kid figuring these things out. Its a top level player, perhaps even a pro player figuring these things out. So I re-iterate -- if you're not Diamond+ or a pro player/pro coach -- don't try this at home. Just stick to the meta. Best thing you can do as a low elo player in this regard is to just stay on top of the PBE notes and PBE forums and anticipate when things are going to be broken, or what's being discussed by PBE players, and try to abuse it before it becomes mainstream.
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=izhJWc81,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-09-16T23:47:52.913+0000) > > "Off meta" is just a fancy word for "bullshit that doesn't work" > > If something is overpowered or able to be reliably abused -- it will be. > > And smarter people than you or I will figure it out waaaaaaayyyyyy sooner than we ever will. > > The meta is the meta for a reason. Its what works. Its whats tried, tested, and true. > > And unless you're one of the .00001% of big brained theorycrafters that bust up the meta REGULARLY with your ideas -- you probably shouldn't even try because you're just going to piss people off, and more importantly, you're probably just doing something stupid anyway. > > 99.9999% of "Off meta" picks are absolute niche things that will only work in less than 10% of scenarios. Specific matchups. Specific circumstances. An entire team build around this one "off meta" pick. > > Then they do it on a live stream, and all the little bronzie sheeple jump all over it like a bitch in heat -- like its gonna work no matter what, and then they get mad when they get shat on. > > If something is TRULY broken, or something is TRULY freelo -- it will be meta. And I'd put some serious money on the fact that its not gonna be you that figures it out, and its certainly not gonna be me. i'd argue that people that 1 trick the same champion in every lane can eventually figure this sort of stuff out just simply knowing how to play their champ. i'd also argue that players that focus on pve instead of pvp aspects in the game are also more likely to discover an unusual tactic. support and jungle players especially since those lanes are technically roaming lanes that arent limited to 1 position - though jungle has a bit more freedom with their hunting grounds between mid and top.
I don't know if I really call that kind of stuff "off-meta" though. When I think "off-meta" I think of people picking things like urgot support, or leblanc jungle, or some other stupid nonsense -- because they saw Viktor top with Kleptomancy work, CLEARLY AD syndra top with phase rush and trinity force is a good idea too! No. Its not. What you're talking about (seemingly) is just general game sense -- which I would agree is going to be an ever-evolving thing no matter what.
Saezio (EUNE)
: And how are we supposed to time summoners? Or untilt our teammates? Maybe your experience is different because the advice "farm better" is not advice. It's like saying "cait don't feed" or other stupid shit like that. Maybe if chat was affecting your performance that much it's good that you personally turned it off because it was affecting your mental state obviously. Most of us don't even think twice about what strangers have to say on the internet. In fact I find it enormously amusing when people are getting infuriated over a video game, whose sole purpose is to make you have fun.
Time stamps and pings still come through just fine, friendo. (unless you mute it specifically) just not the bullshit useless chat from brainless idiots raging at a video game, or the self-appointed fearless leaders who wanna do baron at 22 minutes when its 3v5 (enemy advantage) and we have no vision, and our jungler is dead. and "You need to farm better" is solid advice when your adc has <100 CS in a 30 minute game. Whether you wanna take it as advice or an insult is entirely up to you (see OP regarding "soft, weak, thin-skinned babies") .....But we'll see where that ADC is in 6 months if they keep farming like that, won't we? Probably still raging at people in bronze for telling him he needs to farm better! Also, LMFAO at "Untilt your teammates." Thats rich.
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=izhJWc81,comment-id=00000001,timestamp=2019-09-16T23:40:23.323+0000) > > Idk like 3-4 patches ago? it was right around when TFT came out. ah. that's cool. I wonder if riot would stand up for high skill players that run off-meta in ranked though if they turned their chat off? there are like... at least 3 incidents where players who had trouble communicating their strats were banned. it never looked good on them of course due to how league treats off-meta, but i do remember that one time when it was stated that you're required to communicate with your teammates and I almost said "that's bullshit" on the rioters post.
"Off meta" is just a fancy word for "bullshit that doesn't work" If something is overpowered or able to be reliably abused -- it will be. And smarter people than you or I will figure it out waaaaaaayyyyyy sooner than we ever will. The meta is the meta for a reason. Its what works. Its whats tried, tested, and true. And unless you're one of the .00001% of big brained theorycrafters that bust up the meta REGULARLY with your ideas -- you probably shouldn't even try because you're just going to piss people off, and more importantly, you're probably just doing something stupid anyway. 99.9999% of "Off meta" picks are absolute niche things that will only work in less than 10% of scenarios. Specific matchups. Specific circumstances. An entire team build around this one "off meta" pick. Then they do it on a live stream, and all the little bronzie sheeple jump all over it like a bitch in heat -- like its gonna work no matter what, and then they get mad when they get shat on. If something is TRULY broken, or something is TRULY freelo -- it will be meta. And I'd put some serious money on the fact that its not gonna be you that figures it out, and its certainly not gonna be me.
: wait. when did they add that feature?
Idk like 3-4 patches ago? it was right around when TFT came out.
Rioter Comments
: the state of gold right now
You're playing malphite jungle and nunu support. How are you surprised that you're not doing well? also, none of the games you showed here have you with a positive KDA, or really any good stats at all, besides the 1/2/7 nunu game (which you won) One of the biggest tips any pro player or high elo player will give you is that the game is 90% mental. It is quite clear by this post that your mental is weak. You're blaming your team for everything, you're raging on the forums, you're blaming "the system" for "keeping you down" I've been there. I think most people have. It holds you down way more than any external force ever will. If you play while you're thinking this way, you will continue to lose. Instead, at the end of every game, look at YOUR OWN stats. Look at YOUR OWN performance. Watch YOUR OWN vods, and see what you could be doing better. Worry about you. Nobody else. You can't control your team mates or the enemy team, and no amount of typing, forum posting, or raging is ever going to change that. EVER. Only person you can change is you.
: League of Legends needs a Mother
{{champion:555}} is everyone's daddy.
: I mean it does take mental skills to plan on the fly. But luck is just a constant thing in auto chess in general.
Yyyyyyeeeahhhh.... but not as much as TFT. If you really wanna play autochess, play autochess or Dota: Underlords. Both platforms do literally everything better than TFT, and are consequently more fun. Riot really just fell flat with their attempt -- and they don't seem to be too keen on doubling back to fix it. Instead, they just consistently make it worse. Which is a shame, because I feel like they have the right idea and all the right tools -- they're just too stubborn to listen.
: Diamond in TFT just means lucky.
wish this weren't as true as it is. I skyrocketed to platinum with little to no trouble at all. Figured all the people complaining about luck were just trash. Then I actually got to my real MMR and shit started actually getting competitive. And I started losing games to shit like someone getting 4 3-star champs when everyone else got none. Someone getting 2-3 items every creep round while others got none. And I realized the bitter truth. Once you've reached your actual skill cap as a straight-up "play your cards" player, there is no such thing as climbing. There's no such thing as "improve your game, improve your rank." At a certain point -- it really does just become about luck.
: Doublelift goes to the team that can carry him. Back when he was on CLG, he couldn't do anything because he didn't have someone who could carry him. Jensen carried him these last 2 splits and Xmithie carried him during his first tenure on Liquid. Bjerg/Hauntzer carried him in the previous splits. He's a smart guy. Go to the team that can get you the ship is a good strategy and there is nothing wrong with that... but there is a reason he can't compete internationally. That's because he is bottom tier talent once he gets over there and the people who carried him in NA can't really carry him at Worlds. He's a regional player and if you want to be successful regionally, then DL is your guy as long as you have strong laners who can carry him... but he's a paperwieght in international play. TL better off trying to trade him before Worlds even starts. One of my favorite moments in LOL history is when DL tweeted last year before their game to make it out of groups saying, "I will not lose!" and his very next tweet was, "Sorry to all my fans" XD He's just toxic and loves the attention. Don't give him the satisfaction and call a spade a spade. And I don't have any trophies... because I'm not on a professional team... but if I played on TL with Impact, Xmithie, Jensen, and CoreJJ... yeah... i'd win every split too XD
Dead weight? Can't do anything without his team? Bottom tier talent? Only ever gonna be a regional player? Paperweight in international play? Better off trading him before worlds? Here, let me add a bit of my own flavor, "Largely forgettable and only well known because of his career length, because for some reason they won't get rid of him?" You're talking about sneaky, fam. Only reason anyone even knows this kids name is cuz meteos made him famous XD (Oh and he likes to dress up like a girl)
Rioter Comments
: Traps be Visible Through Allied Towers
Some people don't think it be like that. But it do.
: Doublelift is trash... so is Bjerg... they both trash. TSM should have dropped them both. Regi is the main one that needs to go.
Uh... Doublelift is not on TSM anymore, and has won 4 back to back splits.... Probably can't hear you over all that bling. How many trophies do you have? Also, agree with the Reggie thing -- but its his org so.... that aint happening
: Lolwut? Doublelift is far from best in the world. Arguably best in NA.
: TSM is so horrible!
Spica played at least OK for his first time being in the situation. And honestly, his performance looked worse than it really was be cause of our absolute trash heap ADC. At least a handful of deaths were Spica trying to save Zven's garbage ass. Literally the worst decision in this organization's history was to dump DL for Zven. Absolutely hysterically bad decision. Spica will be fine. But if I was him I'd GTFO TSM immediately, or else yes -- his career will be over. I've been a TSM fan since day 1, and I'm still a TSM fan -- but this org is hot garbage ATM. Bjerg's contract is up. I say let him go. We've spent far too long trying to build a team around this kid with very little results.
Rioter Comments
: That's a good choice. But I'm going to give it to Broken Blade for hovering Lucian and pissing Huni off. Huni was a monster.
TBH Tho broken blade is one of three reasons this team even exists right now. The others being akaadian and smoothie. But we gave akaadian the doublelift/svenskaren/hauntzer/amazing/biofrost/santorin/wildturtle treatment. You know the one -- its where you get rid of a good player and replace it with a literal pile of dog shit? (Except turtle... that was an upgrade to DL)
Rioter Comments
: Now I can't believe ME of all people is saying "To be fair to TSM" since I LOVE every chance to be unfair to them BUT... If the interpersonal problems between Akaadian and Zven were/are as bad as has been hinted at by those in the know, the chances of building synergy between them were between zero and negative five. One of them HAD to go and apparently, for whatever reason, they decided keeping Zven around was more manageable. And, unfortunately, you DO need a certain level of companionship between teammates (even if it's only a grudging mutual respect) because you need to be able to trust them on plays and not argue over shotcalling.
Zven has been a dumpster fire since day 1. It was a mistake, and Reggie can't admit it.
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Infernape (EUW)
: Insec someone into your team.
: you can peel, or tank, or assassinate. pick one or do all 3 if you're just a boss man ting.
So what, just chill by carries and kick people away and/or shield? Cuz I find it difficult to have enough damage to do anything meaningful later in the game damage-wise
Lovelle (NA)
: Did you make this thread just to indirectly support the upcoming buffs? Not that I particularly care, but asking the boards how to play Lee, really? You want the answer in bullet points or essay format?
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Bonten (NA)
: I'm pretty sure 2016 tsm peaked, they messed up and got rid of the good players and replaced them with worse players, I think the way they fix it is replacing sven bring akaadin back and play towards top side. In spring when brokenblade was getting attention from the jg he popped off. If anything even has shown he cant carry
getting rid of doublelift to bring over zven and mithy is a decision reggie will probably regret for the rest of his life. because I'll tell you right now -- we aint gettin doublelift back. I don't think there's a dollar amount in the world that brings doublelift back. He felt very slapped in the face when they told him he was being replaced. I think there's probably some bad blood there. The dude carries us to how many finals in a row -- and we just dump him because bjerg says "They're the best in the west." look at us now. Just fucking look at us. ok.... now look at Doublelift and corejj. its like the old Rock promos back in attitude era WWE/WWF. What's doublelifts supports name? IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOUR NAME IS.
Neriticc (EUW)
: Might aswell just remove Aatrox, Akali and Galio from this game.
idk why people haven't gotten the picture yet. Riot doesn't care about what people think. ESPECIALLY people on the boards. If you want people (that matter) to read your arguments -- make a reddit account.
: Why are you a fan of the literal Men's Soccer Team equivalent to the US Esports token trash America team, when the only teams worth watching are Korean? No one in the US cares about esports, just like no one in the US cares about Soccer. Literally no one: {{sticker:zombie-nunu-bummed}}
same reason anyone's a fan of anything. it's what I decided I like.
: I can appreciate and understand that. For an org that wants the goal of international success, this is proven not to be the roster to cut out the utmost of that goal. I say they earn it if they get it. But if they get it those expectations are going to be very low. Like eliminated at Play Ins low.
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: pyke. an assasin with stealth. mobility, fast heal IN COMBAT a hook, an execute, slow. stun
I’ve said since his launch there’s no reason for his hook to have a slow attached to it. Also love the OOC healing. No reason he needs a combat heal.
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=esyp7AjM,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-21T03:42:38.774+0000) > > in case you didn't know, for about $130 you can get an entire suite of Amazon Basics PC gaming peripherals. > > Mouse, Keyboard, Headset, Mousepad. > > All with similar features as their name brand counterparts. All RGB capable. All with impressive specs for their price point. Can get much cheaper if you're going the cheap route. Personally though, I'll stick with my $165 keyboard $100 headset and $80 mouse. My mousepad is like $0.99 though so there is that.
Keyboard: Steelseries Apex 7 Mouse: Steelseries Rival 650 Headset: Steelseries Arctis Pro Wireless Mousepad: Some XL Sennheiser mat I got as a free gift for ordering a pair of headphones that I actually returned. I don't even know what it costs. Didn't cost me anything. So yeah. I get where you're coming from. But I got you beat on the cheap mousepad at a crisp $0 dollar bill.
ARC RAZIEL (EUNE)
: Riot ? 50+ ping increse
I'm near St. Louis and my ping is usually in the 18-25 range. Now I'm hitting 35-50 ping. What gives?
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lVlx2Acs,comment-id=00000005,timestamp=2019-08-24T01:53:14.124+0000) > > citation? ToS
> [{quoted}](name=BennieBoi,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lVlx2Acs,comment-id=000000050001,timestamp=2019-08-24T02:34:28.125+0000) > > ToS Citation?
: Actually, I bet you didn't know, that Riot reserves the right to ban your account permanently without notice, even if you paid money to "Rent Skins" from them, because when you use money for things in the game, you're paying for the privilege to spend riot points, so you can rent skins, not actually purchase them, which means, you don't own anything, even your account, so make sure you pay lots of money so they can just ban you for no reason if they want to and you'll have to waste your time making another account, leveling up, and have no access to anything you spent money getting. Good thing there is no way for Riot to abuse their player/fan base huh. {{champion:119}}
> [{quoted}](name=DBS Ronovon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=lVlx2Acs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-23T23:11:22.516+0000) > > Actually, I bet you didn't know, that Riot reserves the right to ban your account permanently without notice, even if you paid money to "Rent Skins" from them, because when you use money for things in the game, you're paying for the privilege to spend riot points, so you can rent skins, not actually purchase them, which means, you don't own anything, even your account, so make sure you pay lots of money so they can just ban you for no reason if they want to and you'll have to waste your time making another account, leveling up, and have no access to anything you spent money getting. > > Good thing there is no way for Riot to abuse their player/fan base huh. {{champion:119}} citation?
: Because Riot doesn't do meta-changing item additions/removals this late in the season. Spear is already stated to receive work during preseason.
Imagine if a food company decided a certain point in the year where they did all their QA and health/safety checks. And if people were getting sick from salmonella and e. coli, they were just like "We're not changing anything until the end of the season."
: I waited 14 days to get unbanned and yet I didn't get unbanned. (the unban day is today)
: Why are defensive stacking mechanics like Swain's so weak?
because damage in this game is absolutely ridiculous. Basically amounts to nothing but an arcade-style shooter at this point. You get hit, you're dead.
Di3vaS (EUW)
: BOOOOOOOTS
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: i really don't care what you hover.
Preach. If you aren't first pick, and you're hovering pyke -- sorry I'm not sorry.
Zed Boss (NA)
: "Why did you ban my champion?" Answer: "Oh cry me a river"
I will 100% always ban OP champions/Cancer champions regardless of who has them picked, unless they have literally FIRST PICK. because beyond that, there's a chance the enemy gets them, and I just don't care enough about my team mates to deal with a fed-ass yasuo or pyke. Sorry I'm not sorry. You should understand that these are highly contested champions and just because you say you want them, doesn't mean you're gonna get them. ESPECIALLY if you're not first pick. Cry. Be mad. Downvote this post to oblivion. I don't care, I'm not gonna stop.
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