: Well Im not toxic for no reason, I dont care what people say in chat, I care for what people do in game. Inting, trolling, feeding, and supports last hitting (not important) really, REALLLY grinds my fucking gears, and makes me want to flame satans ass off.
> [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=G7nU5LcM,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-07-16T03:51:15.800+0000) > > So what's the fuckin point?? > > Just shut up and play.
: Saying anything anymore gives you chat restriction, Whats the point of chat if you cannot talk.
1.) You're a douchebag who deserved your ban 2.) I completely agree with the title. I'm honor level 2 (because apparently honor level 1 takes 30 years?) and I haven't had any disciplinary action against my account in probably over a year, maybe 2. But I can tell you its hard. Its super hard. Because if you say "Hey man you should have helped me push the turret instead of trying to land a Q on the enemy behind it and dying to a turret shot" -- Thats a report. If you say "Hey man maybe don't start the dragon when the jungler is 800 feet away with no smite and you have no idea where the enemy team is" Report. If you say "Why would a xerath need a red buff more than an ezreal" Report. IF you say literally goddamn anything in this game, you get reported, because the world (not just league!!) is full of over-sensitive sallies who have absolutely no concept of the fact that they may in fact be idiots, and what they're doing might in fact be wrong. But don't tell them that. You'll just get reported to oblivion and they'll go cry in their safe spaces. So you know what man? Start every game with "/mute all" and just don't say shit to anyone, ever. If someone's being stupid -- let them be stupid. You're smarter than they are. Use that big brain of yours to win. Fuck them. When in your league career have you ever said something to someone and they actually listened? Never. Has not happened, will not happen. So what's the fuckin point?? Just shut up and play.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7nAxJplc,comment-id=000800000000,timestamp=2019-07-15T16:59:08.831+0000) > > Then they changed the terminology, because smart cast used to be the one with no indicators. > > I wouldn't know, I haven't touched my settings in probably close to 10 years. Technically they call it quick cast with indicators... smart cast is taken from dota 2 i believe.
No I 100% promise you it was called smart cast at one point in time. I would put a paycheck on it. I have literally zero other reason to call it smart cast, other than that's what it was called at some point. I'm not that creative.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=7nAxJplc,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-07-15T16:52:58.882+0000) > > the first thing I ever make them do is put on **smart cast.** you mean quick cast... smart cast is the one with the indicators
Then they changed the terminology, because smart cast used to be the one with no indicators. I wouldn't know, I haven't touched my settings in probably close to 10 years.
: Playing with locked or unlocked camera?
Unlocked in general, but I find myself holding the space bar during team fights.
JuiceBoxP (EUNE)
: Any reason to use quick cast?
Too many champions rely on using abilities in quick succession to be effective to NOT use quick cast. You're hamstringing yourself if you don't use it, IMO. Whenever I introduce someone to league of legends, the first thing I ever make them do is put on smart cast. Just nip it in the bud, don't ever even let them get used to using indicators. Its better for them in the long run. Bad habits are hard to break.
Febos (EUW)
: [Surrender@20](https://www.surrenderat20.net/p/current-pbe-balance-changes.html) It's 2019. Everyone should know about that website.
Well aware of it. Can’t find current TFT changes in any official capacity though.
: Here's exactly how much you can possibly die within 20 minutes:
Queue up for a solo queue game in iron/bronze/silver.
Hotarµ (NA)
: I'd say based on the evidence that we have (severe lack of complains from the community on Youtube/Boards/Reddit/Twitch, the statistics that show the game is the most watched of 2019 on Twitch, and the amount of positive reception for TFT) the game is _at the very least_ doing okay right now. All I'm trying to say with my comment is that OP needs more evidence. What he has now isn't anywhere close to enough.
Yeah.... except we're not in a courtroom and people are allowed to have their own opinions :\ Could you imagine how dull the world would be if everyone just based everything off of "facts" all the time? Most advances in technology come from people questioning facts, or having an opinion against the status quo. You seem like a smart enough person to also realize that using the general populace as a standard for measuring just about anything is a horrible way to do business. I'd imagine a few entertainment giants right now that probably wouldn't be in business if they just did whatever the community liked, or whatever the community wanted. I don't think OP is misplaced in stating that he thinks the game is bad. Many people share the same sentiment. And if you're going to fault him for using "one search engine's graph" (which was google, by the way -- fairly reputable company) then you probably shouldn't follow it up with a defense that uses twitch viewership and TFT reception as a crutch. If we followed that logic, then we could argue that Britney Spears was (at some point) on a comparable level with all-time music legends. People don't know what they like. They like what they're told to like. And people liking something doesn't make it inherently good. Maybe.... maybe uh.... take it easy with the keyboard crusades, there, killer. Through all your fancy words and your well-formed paragraphs and proper use of forum tools, your arguments are as empty as the ones you're criticizing.
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Hotarµ (NA)
: >I'm literally showing a graph showing that the raw interest caused by League on google has been going downhill and you are asking for sources? _One_ search engine's results page isn't enough evidence to support your claim that the game is dying. Search engine trends change rapidly and violently at random intervals based on a number of different factors. The amount of searches on a website _do not_ reflect the amount of interest in said subject. Just as an example: OSRS (Old School Runescape) is a game that has been steadily growing since it's release. We started off at about 20-30k concurrent players and we've almost doubled, staying at 55-60k+ active users at almost all times. Now what does the search engine results page look like? [Take a look for yourself.](https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?q=OSRS&geo=US) A _downward or stagnated_ trend in search results. >Several streamers/youtubers are either complaining about balance or simply just quitting the game even if it was their main source of revenue (like Dyrus). This got to the point that streamer showcasing channels just show either big plays from the players or plain complains about balance. some youtube channels are also plainly and only showcasing and discussing about problematics of the game and Riot's poor decision making. You go on Surrender@20, and pretty much every balance change and even skin announcements are received negatively. A few notable people quitting isn't enough to support your claim either. The Youtubers and streamers I watch still enjoy the game and play it religiously. So... do we go with your examples or mine? See what I'm getting at? You need _hard, factual, **statistical**_ evidence to support your claims. [_**Like this one right here that shows League of Legends is the most watched game on Twitch in 2019.**_](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/cakcuk/league_of_legends_has_the_most_hours_watched_on/) >Along with Twitch and Youtube, Reddit and the Boards are the biggest portion of community-related feedback you'll ever get. _**The vocal minority is always the loudest.**_ Go on Reddit _right now_ and tell me how many posts you see made by people who are complaining about the game and saying that the state of it is poor. Do you know why you don't see many? Because the people who are satisfied or enjoy the game don't need to make posts praising it, their needs are being met and as a result they don't need to say anything about it. This is why I've been saying you need statistical evidence like polls, surveys, playtime graphs, or other undeniable sources. Because if we look at the community as a whole, the majority of people don't voice any negative opinions about the game. >It isn't a faulty argument to see evidence. In fact, it shouldn't be an argument at all since there IS evidence and, like you just did, you neglect this feedback over several biased other arguments like those I just showcased. You have nothing credible to substantiate your claims. You're going off of anecdotal and personal experiences supported by one search engine graph. >You are presently on a platform who is an evidence by itself but you refuse to listen to it because it doesn't represent the community in its totality. Except the Boards are a very, _very_ small section of the community and their concerns may not necessarily resonate with the rest of the community. They also have the problem of having low credibility, it's nigh-impossible to have legitimate discussions about balance because the majority of users here are incapable of civility and looking at statistical evidence. In other words, that quote you used above about the Boards _is_ true. >Together with the other major platforms representing the game, the totality of the feedback amongst these does represent the vast majority of the community feedback. Refusing to listening to this because its still not 100% of the community is literally just keeping anything from taking action over the fact that someone could be playing without giving feedback, in which case it was his responsibility to do so. Listen to what I'm saying. You do not need 100% of the community to voice their opinions for the game for me to take it as real evidence. You need something _credible_ like a source from Riot, lack of playtime on Twitch or Youtube, surveys and polls, or other irrefutable evidence. When you can get that evidence, then people will actually look at that information and be persuaded. As it stands right now you have **_nothing _**credible and for that reason I personally don't believe the game is dying or at the very least nearing an end anytime soon.
: Just for ONCE can we have a meta where ADC aren't the best champions in the game
You sure can. here ya go! (Gives you current gamestate)
: You all have NO RIGHT to complain about lack of diversity when you're the first people to throw a tantrum against it! Viktor and Karma going top with Kleptomancy? "Broken champs ruining top lane!" Mages being played in the support role? "OP! Nerf them out of bot!" Morgana touches mid? "How dare she! Nerf!" Ezreal "abusing" items? "Boycott Riot!" Playes killed the diversity of the game a long time ago with this enforced strict "META". So much so that we now look angrily at everything that even dares to stray away from these "rules" the playerbase has imagined. The three examples above being some of the most recent. The Nubrac strategy also being a prime example. Champions don't function well with many items, because the players don't desire that. For some reason, everyone is alright with seeing what the team comp is and knowing what items are going to be built. Answer this honestly: If Riot adds AD ratios to Zyra's plants and AD Zyra becomes a thing, would you see it as a new diverse way of playing Zyra or would you see it as something game-breaking that should not exist? And let's not even get started on the sheer backlash every new champion/rework with entirely new mechanics gets. Yuumi was dragged trough the mud before she was released. Akali is being handicapped, and Mordekaiser will probably see some heavy R changes soon. Because "Oh no, it's a new mechanic to League, how am i supposed to play against it?" people cry as they autolock their 2011 champions. Riot DOES try to add diversity to the game! It's the players that reject it!
Pika Fox (NA)
: Sorry, but damage has only gone down.
: Lady {{champion:421}}
Give her a little void dress and some hair! Awwww
: > [{quoted}](name=Barkley,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=dpAkjUNq,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-13T05:45:24.723+0000) > > Taking out buyable wards was one of the best decisions Riot has ever made. > > Please do not advocate bringing them back. > > As for the rest of your post, well -- I didn't read it. Because you said bring buyable wards back, so I just assumed the rest of it was nonsense. Sounds like you're parroting back something you heard someone else say, word for word. Please explain why removing purchasable wards was a good thing. Please explain why having a ward limit is a good thing. Personally, I'd like to be able to drop a few pink wards in my lane to deal with shaco ganks or teemo shrooms, or twitch ganks. Frankly, I'd like to have my river warded 24/7, I'd like to be able to leap as jax at will. There is no argument you can make to validate your position, you're just contrarian.
Having a ward limit forces you to rotate around your vision. It creates pockets of vision that you have to strategically play around. You can’t just light up the whole map like a Christmas tree and track the entire enemy teams movement all the time. You have to choose where you want vision and set up for it accordingly. You have to fight for vision, and defend vision. It adds a layer of gameplay that is satisfying. The current vision system is infinitely more strategic than “buy 20 wards and never worry about enemy movement again” At that point why not just turn off fog of war. It also alleviated the pressure on supports to spend all their gold on wards, which was an extremely toxic meta for support players. Now everyone has access to wards, and can be expected to buy them. The onus of warding still falls on a support, but they get support only items that they have to complete quests to use. There’s a give and take there that feels good. Also, just because someone disagrees with you doesn’t make them contrarian, and saying “there is no valid argument against my argument” is just asinine. Makes you sound like an arrogant prick.
Jaspers (EUW)
: Reverse skins, any that can be done. Braum - A ram carrying shield with Braums face on it (i've seen a concept for this once, it was amazing). Kindred - Wolf is main body, Lamb the floaty one. Azir - Soldier guy summoning pigeons. Fizz - A tiny shark that summons a giant yordle Gragas - A walking barrel that throws fat people Rumble - Tiny Robot riding a mechanical Yordle Kled - Well, you know.
Only if we get Soraka. A banana that throws dryads.
usul1202 (NA)
: What's your 'it happened in a dream' skin?
Surprise party illaoi. Wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube men.
aezens (EUW)
: There are countless factors you have to keep in mind. Depending on what you consider "loosing" people might have a bad start and will perform better after a while. Ultimatively poeple are very inconsitent and it depends on your luck whether it turns out to be the right decision.
**Losing **Alternatively **Inconsistent I got a good chuckle out of "Ultimatively".
: TFT is garbage even if they balance it. It lacks the interaction of a 40 minute dice throwing simulator.
Thank you for sharing your opinion.
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vyoda (NA)
: Because that would actually make {{champion:268}} viable (in lower elos) :P
regardless of elo, an azir in the right hands is easily the most oppressive champion in this game. You either hide under your tower hoping for CS and jungler, or you play someone who can shove and just roam as much as you can. Staying in a lane with an azir that knows his shit is just plain suicide.
: > [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xtcX0eNT,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-12T22:03:05.249+0000) > > The first thing I would do is make it so individual performance is taken into account in the game. I think this is good. Like the higher your grade the less lp you lose maybe?
I'd go for this. I can't tell you how many times I go on a loss streak and then go look at OP.GG and its MVP MVP MVP ACE ACE ACE MVP MVP MVP ACE ACE ACE ACE ACE Like.... I'm clearly better than the people I'm playing with. I just have shit luck with feeders, afkers, and worst of all fucking SMURFS. I'll be the first to admit i'm probably close to my true elo. I'm not saying I'm supposed to be diamond or anything, hell no. But without all the bullshit I'd easily be mid-gold.
: How would you balance the game?
I would literally throw it in the dumpster and put all of the resources into a newer, less complicated game mode. Something more casual and friendly, but still competitive. Something that's more in line with current trends. Something that's following the market and capitalizing on the latest fad. League has grown beyond balancing. Nothing they could possibly do would make this game balanced. They spent too many years creating new content without paying enough attention to the changing state of the game. And now its descended into chaos. Just douse it in gasoline and start with something fresh. Maybe an auto chess battler or something....
: More passive gold + Buffed tank items and defensive runes across the board + Buyable Wards
Taking out buyable wards was one of the best decisions Riot has ever made. Please do not advocate bringing them back. As for the rest of your post, well -- I didn't read it. Because you said bring buyable wards back, so I just assumed the rest of it was nonsense.
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: Here's what needs to happen to the friends list.
This has literally never happened to me.
: Continues to hold g and spam click
mutes your pings and writes an angrily worded post in the gameplay forum
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: Refusing to take Thresh lanterns
In my experience, "Not grabbing the lantern" is like 10% the player doesn't grab it, and 90% the player can't grab it either because they're CC'd, blocked, or the thresh threw a shitty lantern -- and the thresh main is getting mad over nothing.
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Shahamut (NA)
: {{champion:72}}
Skarner is legit played at the pro level around the world in the current meta. Get outta here, tourist.
: {{champion:32}}
I was searching this entire thread for this champion in particular. A few patches, maybe even a full season or more ago, they "reworked" amumu, and he's been mediocre at best ever since. This is by far my favorite champion in the game, and if I want to play him I basically have to settle for mediocrity and hope my play can overshadow his shortcomings. And they just left him there. I cry myself to sleep at night. Just like amumu.
maembe (NA)
: {{champion:98}} :(
Shen has been an LCS pick since LCS, including this season. You can show yourself out.
: _cries in greenboi_ {{champion:427}} {{champion:427}} {{champion:427}} {{champion:427}} {{champion:427}}
Only one of very few legit complaints on this thread. I LOVE Ivern, and he got absolutely gutted and hasn't been seen since.
: cries in jester
First legit complaint i've seen on this thread. Shaco.
: {{champion:72}} and {{champion:101}} main, do i need to add anything :p?
Xerath maybe but skarner has been a meta pick for like 2 seasons.
Lovelle (NA)
: {{champion:48}} Tell me about it. Riot may have buffed his damage, but they refuse to revert any nerfs to Pillar, which is the main skill that wins him games. Apparently Pillar is too good in competitive play, which I don't even watch. I don't even play ranked, so that long CD and pitiful 15% slow nerf hurts. You need as much early game power as you can get right now, especially in the jungle. His Pillar doesn't even start to become useful until rank 3, so he basically has to sacrifice damage and/or sticking power (since he has to forsake ranking either Q or W first) in order to have decent ganks and teamfighting. Seems a bit much when there currently mobile burst champs that can do all these things simultaneously (while rushing cheap damage items no less). His core damage items {{item:3077}} {{item:3153}} have gotten price increases and resistances still scale terribly into mid-late game. His last skin came out almost 3 years ago, and he's been picked numerous times in pro play since then, so why hasn't he gotten any new skins?
Trundle is played constantly in the current meta. gtfo.
Vikta (NA)
: {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:112}} BRING BACK THE GLORIOUS (R)EVOLUTION
Viktor has been in meta damn near the entire season. Next
: {{champion:110}} Most people probably forget that he exists...
he's legit played constantly in LCS/Academy and has seen play recently in Korea as well. Next.
: Permabanned Second Ban On 60 Plus Skin Acc Help Me
I mean... you're gonna come here asking for pity with those logs? Lesson learned, kiddo. Stop being a jerk.
: It's official. Rito prefers ints over floats. **Rito supports inting conformed.**
This is easily the best comment on this entire thread, and nobody appreciates it enough.
Seal Bot (EUNE)
: Is no one going to talk about the fact Sivir received a MASSIVE nerf??
This is an outrage. Thank you for bringing this to our attention.
: I ahhhh dont like doritos :(
Oh hey look its the one person in bumfuck nowhere, Rhode Island.
: "Get level 6 before the Second Shared Draft"
You literally have to gimp yourself to accomplish this, so I'm good.
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Antenora (EUW)
: I perm ban Yuumi when I'm bot lane. Fuck that champion.
She’s not even strong. It’s not even about strength. She’s just plain not fun to play against. Like, even if I win I didn’t have fun getting there.
: This ADC and Support synergy
Just dodge you I poke and hope you have a competent jungler to catch them shoving.
Fiddler (NA)
: Team tactics needs to be renamed *****Summoner's Assistant*****
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