: Give Sterak's and veteran scars back to fighter/tank/juggernauts.
i once proposed to make it like warmog: triggers only at 3k hp or something.
: Panthion in S6
Ive been a big panth main early season and all the season prior. His major strenght is the early game. He can apply pressure anywhere and snowball from his lane. When you go jungle, you miss out on a lot of gold, XP and potential snowball you need. Mid game is where he is best as a jungler, but by then, its very feast and famine tho. You need that early snowball. Tho i stopped playing him after several indirect and direct nerfs hes received, im not sure how he does with the cancer meta top...prolly not that well.
: they said it was... but no it really isn't.
if we look at his passive, its quite similar (beside few things)
: Doesn't heal allies.
thats why i said (with some changes lol)
morris1 (EUNE)
: Yeah, season 7 is {{champion:19}} {{champion:3}} {{champion:6}} and probably {{champion:20}} along with some {{champion:13}} {{champion:72}} (excluding class reworks).
they did mention Irelia also.
: Riot tries to be really clever...
hes among the weakest early game assassin, his base dmg lower than nami. I mean i do think they way they balanced him before (Morello era) was dumb as hell. Removed all his identity AND his dmg afterwards. So he became trash. I did make a lot of post about how his R buffs was the wrong direction. But i dont think hes out of line at all if ever in the past 3 years
Awhegark (NA)
: Give Aatrox old Sion's Ultimate
wasnt Sion's old ult put into his passive? (with some changes?)
: True damage should be removed from the game
Do you make a thread to convince us? or are you trying to convince yourself how of a dominant mind you have and we cant grasp your flawless logic? Either way, you are wasting your time. Its pretty pointless to come in with such little experience of the game thinking that an aimless rant would contribute anything. Im not a huge fan of true dmg personally. But that doesnt mean it doesnt have its uses or that it cannot be handled--because it can.
: Why would Lissandra need nerfs....?
its not that i think she needs nerfs. but she is among the most contested champ in the game at pro level. lots of wave clear champs are pro contested atm.
kile147 (NA)
: >she's balanced >The Ult buffs are just gonna help her do her job a tad bit better. That's kind of the issue, why are they buffing a champ that is currently balanced, has a history of being hard to balance, and is viewed as fairly cancerous when strong. > Riven PTSD and the irrational hate that has never left the wake of that champion isn't really justification to declare her OP Fair enough, but I think a major issue is that they gave buffs to Riven and Jinx right before worlds, despite both of them being balanced. This isn't just irrational hatred of just Riven, this is hatred for Riot once again making sure the champs they want to be seen are used in worlds. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that but it's clear favoritism and leaves a bit of a bitter taste for the people who have never seen their mains allowed to be top tier.
> [{quoted}](name=kile147,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qpRYIo1f,comment-id=000100000000000000000003,timestamp=2016-08-23T19:44:27.768+0000) > > That's kind of the issue, why are they buffing a champ that is currently balanced, has a history of being hard to balance, and is viewed as fairly cancerous when strong. > > Fair enough, but I think a major issue is that they gave buffs to Riven and Jinx right before worlds, despite both of them being balanced. This isn't just irrational hatred of just Riven, this is hatred for Riot once again making sure the champs they want to be seen are used in worlds. There's not necessarily anything wrong with that but it's clear favoritism and leaves a bit of a bitter taste for the people who have never seen their mains allowed to be top tier. Couldnt say it better myself. Personally, i dont JUST have an issue with Riven as a champion. But the playerbase man.....i mean my friends call her the tilt queen. :(
: You should look again, because you're using outdated stats. You're looking at the 2014-2015 stat for +125 games winrate.
her 50.74 win rate is dated from 6.16 tho. admittedly, most of her playerbase are mains (per tier) But overall, has more of less experienced players as a whole. She seems to be decent, but not meta, which is ok. I dont personally like these buffs, but I dont think they are insane. I personally dont think her problems or solutions are addressed appropriately.
: really? You want 10 sumurf's? I know ppl who are Diamond 5-3 that are surf's and idc who you are...you don't stand a chance. The matchmaking is broken. They need to base Teams off of individual skill. Im sick of losing games because i can't cary a team who does not know how to play. I have ben demoted 4 ranks and i have been 0/9/22 (minimum).
you know diamond 5-3...so what? i know a challenger and 3 master tiers players... That is irrelevant to the subject. I dont stand a chance? what? I have done it, twice. Im not Plat 2 by chance..duh. (and still climbing) Ive beaten diamonds also, its not that different from high plat (until you hit diamond 3) I dont agree with team cumulative MMR. But that doesnt mean the game is unfair. The enemy team has the same stuff as you. But what the game rewards is consistency. You are a support main, as I used to be. But ONE team has to win. If you are MUCH better than your elo (which you are not in this case) Then you will climb fast, If you are only slightly better, it will take a much longer time but you will in the end. Its a long term grind. You think people end up at their skill level in 2 weeks? a month? then complain how their team holds them back? It is the oldest saying at every elo since the game has been created. Oddly, Ive been bronze 4 to plat 2. The gameplay is vastly different and the skill level is also. That also mean the enemy is MUCH better but still, someone has to win. If the skill gap is that obv when you climb, so that means your gameplay needs to aswell. So what im essentially saying, is that you have a lot to learn and you prolly dont even know what. Thats the issue. Also, you DO NOT climb low elo as a support main. It could take you 2 seasons IF you ARE lucky. P.S: ive seen people being quite good under individual perspective. But you know what? they still dunno how to win the game, which is what the ladder rewards. Winning the game gets harder also the higher you go, people dont know how to adapt as they climb.
: Also you have to understand that in bronze people give up when the smallest thing doesn't go well. Their jungler smited 1 minion in the mid lane? FF at 20 pls. That's why I dislike the surrender option.
i understand. Its like that also in higher elo. immaturity doesnt have rankings lool.
: So Looking at Voli
i dont think overloaded means what you think it means. Also you are silver 5. Most people there struggles to find solutions that are not that hard to find. Overloaded is usually when every ability has multiple uses, mechanics passive/actives. His passive does what his passive does, his Q is a speed boost with a fling, W is a conditional execute, E is a slow that fears minions. R is a aa steroid with chain effect. Very simple, nothing really has multiple uses and falls off late game. Ever heard of the juggernaut sub class? {{champion:122}} {{champion:86}} {{champion:36}} {{champion:82}} etc.. Their class is specialized to deal quite a lot of dmg within their range while being tanky. However, they are not tanks and deal mostly dmg to squishy targets. They lack mobility (like dashes, blinks etc..) and the hard crowd control/engages. Where is the cant kite from or kill him from? Every control mages can kite him to oblivion, so are many meta adcs (including their items) {{champion:103}} {{champion:12}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:268}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:79}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:57}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:33}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:134}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:412}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:48}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:161}} {{champion:112}} {{champion:115}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:143}} all champs that can deal with him in some form. {{summoner:14}} {{summoner:3}} {{item:3153}} {{item:3123}} {{item:3165}} just to name a couple of easy stuff to pick up
WolfChases (EUNE)
: Why doesn't anyone pick or ban Zed or Yasuo in LCS?
players take into account role and team comps. Zed would never survive in the current LCS meta, As also a 1v1 duelist that split push, he would get into quite a lot of trouble versus {{champion:245}} {{champion:127}} And these champs would actually cancel his usefulness {{champion:79}} {{champion:223}} {{champion:90}} {{champion:127}}
: Remove 1 letter from a champions ability. What does it do now?
{{champion:38}} E-Force pulse. E-Fore Pulse: Kassadin warns the enemy of an incoming golf ball with an echoing voice, It crits if the skill shot doesnt land. (aka warning failed)
: Public opinion on if this ban is justified please?
pretty much what everyone already said. Did you know that in the court of law, if there is an aggressor, you are still not allow to _**attack**_ back? you can defend yourself, but not to the point to significantly harm the other person. Unless there is a firearm involved (U.S law) The matter is complex but isnt really in a sense. You were probably reported more than just the games from the logs you provided. I would bet that you werent always just doing that to the trolls. I would also bet that what you would perceive as troll etc.. can be just an hyperbole or just a misperception. there are a lot of variants. You also struggle to see very logical arguments made by reasonable people said in a reasonable way. It seems to me you are quite young. That being said: there is a bottomline. You cannot say what you said. It's riot business and its their rules. They dont want you to, you dont do it. If you get punished for what you see as unfair, they will get punished for sure for whats fair. If they acted this way with you, they have a lot more and will a lot more until they get their perma-ban. You get easily riled up and baited. I get trolls and ragers, and toxic asswipes etc.. all the time. I dont get banned, but they do. I know they do cause Rito tell me and i see people in here all the time complaining about bans they deserve.
: Look at it from the other team's perspective. If the enemy Vayne is 2/0/0 at 20 minutes when you surrender she won't get an S+ or a mastery token. If you let the game go on to 40 minutes and the Vayne is 15/0/3 with 400 cs, then she will get the S+. If you're 100% sure you're going to lose and your team really wants to surrender, think of not surrendering as giving the enemy team a chance to get an S or S+. You don't know how many games I was doing well and then the enemy surrendered and I get an A+ instead of an S.
well that invalid the original argument you were making. you arent playing for the enemy to get good scores. Its different from giving the penta to the quadra guy. Actually, enemy teams get really bm and insulting once they are far ahead. They will usually never try to get these scores cause they are just celebrating the smack fest. These scores are also given depending on wards etc..Teams that are super ahead stops doing much of the obj control and map vision and just choke you slowly while you are still agonizing. Either way they will most likely not get their stuff the longer the game goes. High elo players being that ahead would still win, while smack talking and bming after 30 more minutes of gameplay. These players in my book dont deserve their S for behavior like that. their score is not up to me if i surrender or not anyway. You play for your ability to win. Simple as that. As i said before: I dont usually surrender, but it has its uses even if rage QQ kids abuses it.
: Broken Matchmaking
I agree there are better system out there (i like the dawn of war 2 system) And agree that the ''trueskill'' system is interesting and make sense. but i will have to say to you this: Give me 10 smurfs, and i will go to high plat with all 10. Yes, i will lose games, some games will seem unfair for me but specially for those i face. But in the end, my skills doesnt change, i will climb to where i belong. Now if we talk about DQ in the matchmaking however...
: Can we please get rid of the surrender option in ranked
you obviously never played in high elo. Let me tell you that losing 6 towers, being 2 30 versus diamond players under 20 min will NEVER end in victory. Its like having a broken leg and having no equipement versus the superbowl champions... I personally very very rarely surrender a game. But when 2 people give up and trolls. then its already decided for you, whether you try. 4v5s has a 17% win rate and it requires a humongous amount of effort, and that is if someone of your team is even ahead. there are even worse situations too. So yea, the surrender option is useful. Even if QQ kids abuses it. I dont mean to offend you, but if i was in bronze 5, even if my team was 0 40 i would think that i could win. but the game is VASTLY different in different elos. Even in silver 2 on my smurf, as a plat player, i know i cannot carry them all for these reasons.
: Why not just delete Azir at this point?
why is everyone downvoting eachother? Azir has a lot of upside and tools for a lot of different situations. He isnt really niche, hes the j4 of the mid lane but a better version. much better. Now, 80-85% that plays him arent otp mains (that does reduces his win rate significantly for the skill cap he has) But the thing about him is that jhis win rate is a difficult one to analyze properly. on one side, he has a 50% win rate when the game is around 40 min when the average at high elo is 25 min. A vast majority of players casually play him or has around 50 games with him which means--for among if not the highest skill cap champ in the game--this will hurt his win rate. At last, his numbers dropped significantly at patch 6.14. Was that the MYMU? i dont remember. It seems to me that his counters are very meta also, so its not that he's THAT weak but all these things play a role. I think he is on the weaker side, but i just think hes on the wrong spot more than anything. hes good versus melee assassins and i even see him win versus leblancs at high elo. I wonder what will happen with his win rate at the assassin update? (genuine question)
RedTubë (EUNE)
: Dude :|
he does has three offensive oriented defensive items. bruiser ones. but admittedly, he does plenty of dmg. i think his passive is most likely the issue in all of this.
: My Justified but Unjustified Permaban
....you didnt even need an intro....what you said is also a CRIMINAL offense. you are lucky that person didnt call the cops on you(which has happened before in league)
Hrd2H1t (NA)
: Why Elo Hell Exists (The Problem With Bronze)
plat players arent team players lool. every season i had my smurf in bronze i climbed it easily. Its about personal skillz.
: Does using nocturne's ult count as a gank?
the term ganking doesnt imply the means to do it. it just describe the action of doing rather than the means.
: good silver 5 jungs
a champ alone will not bring you to these tiers. You have to improve yourself. The difference of play between silver 5 is huge.
: Bad Forever?
screw tyler1. that kid treat league like it's retard football. Difference is: hes a child mentally. Elo is a representation of skills. The game is made for every tier of skills. There are rotating game modes, normals etc.. Ironically, if all the low elo tier didnt exist, then he would be trash for whoever is on top of him.
: Assassin Roster Update - Katarina
what do you guys have in store for kassadin? And what will happen to her ulti?
: Assassin Roster Update - Katarina
Are you guys going to do something about her her ulti base dmg and scaling....its among the highest in the game by far and the dmg is quite frontloaded.
: Why did I get a 2 week ban from the game when I had never been banned before?
that depends of the reason of the ban. Some racial-homophobic and some extreme cases can be an insta 2 week, and in some very rare cases, an insta perma. Im not going to ask for logs. but if you did any of those. That may be the reason why. Also, once the ban is over. It can take no more than 1 day of still toxic behavior to be perma'd. So take your lesson.
: After repeated nerfs Rek'sai's become a shell of a champion
lets be honest here, she was a very good champion that brings a lot to her team. But why the nerfs? its not deserved, shes just good. nothing op about her. If its not her, its gonna be the grag, if its not grag, its kindred and graves...i mean...its pretty obvious that nothing will be solved by doing this nerf.
mak87 (EUW)
: that seems a bit far fetched.
ive seen it few days ago. I was surprised too. doubt its a common occurence however.
: No, he harassed me first. Saying shit to me. If I took a picture of the entire chat, you would see my reasoning. Unfortunately, I can't show you the entire chat because Riot only shows you your own chat, making you (me in this case) look like I'm the one doing wrong
its not about who did it first. he could be in the same position as you. but you are just as guilty as he is according the Riot's rules.
: I've played like 50+ Duskblade Jhin games over the past few weeks and I can honestly say I didn't realize that it gave movement speed. My draw for building it on him (and MF when I play her) is the armor penetration and how well it works with their abilities. For Jhin, his passive's % missing health damage works so well with it and also gives Nightfall a better chance of doing something. For MF, her bounced Q can deal more than half of someone's health once she has the 30 armor penetration from Youmuu's and Duskblade and that doesn't even cover how much work that combo does at making her ultimate deadly.
yea its def synergizing with more than just the mov speed. But it gives +10%, so when jihn crits on top of it, hes a fast fellow and so does Mf with her passive. its pure synergy all over the place.
: I really need to chill
But this is the behavior forums. Playing while tired, altho not a lucrative elo strategy--isnt reportable or bad behavior in itself.
: Pretty much any ranged mid will fuck up a melee one since they can just poke them out of lane. And I still believe her matchups really emphasis skill seeing as how ahri has a very skill shot oriented kit. If you get charmed and bursted by her it's cause you were out of position usually. The only argument you can make for that is when she ults right into your face which can be a bit annoying but can also be countered by a shield or flash/dash away or cc on her since she has to get close to fully utilize her w and ult.
thats the reason why i said it. its not uncommon now (melee mid). She tends to also punish divers or people who wants to get into her face. So you are right to say she is safe. As a kass main, i do beat her most of the time, but when i do meet those dedicated ahri one trick, shit is usually much harder.
: Actually I've always seen ahri as a jack of all trades kinda champ. She doesn't really counter anyone but is a safe reliable pick that provides good poke, cc, mobility and can be played more passively or aggressively depending on how you wanna play. All of her matchups are really skill based and i think thats great. I don't really think she needs any changes at all cause she does fit into several roles effectively yet not excelling at any. Honestly she's got one of my favorite kits for solo ranked because of the way she is. She's been my favorite since I started playing even.
she does counter melee champs mid and some artillery mages.
: Why is an assassin item like duskblade not melee only
to be fair, a lot of adcs builds it, only very auto oriented adcs dont. I really think its dumb tbh. But they mostly build it for the mouvement speed it gived. heck you could dodge the boots practically with all the mouvement speed in the items nowadays.
: Why is an assassin item like duskblade not melee only
just an opinion but, i think the mouvement speed on it is creating a lot of problems across the board in the aspect of items stacking and the variety of champions using it.
Kiokami (NA)
: so sick of people refusing to surrender
actually, if its such a rofl stomp, why is the game dragged to 40 min? The fact of the matter is this, ive seen people throw the game very very very hard while my team and I were really ahead. People usually dont know how to end the game, waste time, get cocky and do a lot of stupid things. If throws are possible, and it happens A LOT. Then it means that a lot of games have some sort of snowball at one point, and still lost anyway. But here is a kicker; After 25-30mins. death timers are starting to be quite long. If you arent trying to win in every way possible, then you deserve the loss and the elo you are in. you dont climb with defeatists attitude. The ONLY way i would surrender a ranked game, is if someone afk of intent walk feed mid. Even there i try to win cause ive won several 4v5 games. Take my advice: The game isnt over until its done. Giving up is giving you better chances the game afterwards, but having a negative attitude will most likely make you also lose the next ones also. Oh and last thing: Deaths count doesnt reflect the gold stack. Ive seen a team having 20 kills ahead and be actually behind.
Beoridas (NA)
: i think thats where you arent getting it. A subclass means its different from the class they originate from but have most of its attributes. Divers Divers are the more mobile portion of the Fighter class. Divers excel at singling out high-priority targets to blitz toward, immediately forcing those targets (and their teammates) to deal with the diver’s presence. **Divers are not as durable as the tanks or juggernauts of the world, but Divers can take their fair share of punishment while bringing enough damage to be a real kill threat if left unchecked.** He is ALREADY recognized as a diver. hello, i showed it to you?! 2 months ago- http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list Divers: Jarvan. I never said he was an assassin, i said divers have an assassin pattern but they pay the price for it as they are all in-ers.
My point still stand 100%. and unless you have tangible proof. I highly doubt that 1000 true dmg at lvl 6 is accurate, specially at 0.10 sec. If it was really the case then sure, i would agree, but its not and you know it. Its not because a champ isnt an assassin that he cant build like one. Its just a risky playstyle. I build wukong and pantheon like this, but it can cost me big time.
Pryyze (EUW)
: riven is one of the most underpowered champion of this season.. u probably never player riven in season 3/4 she really need some buffs to dmg, im not an idiot im d5 and i have 72% winrate with riven, riven's dmg are nothing compared to riven's dmg in season 3/4 or 5 btw i think this buff are only to incetivate ppl to buy the championship skin and she will get nerf in some months probably; sadly.
its not because her dmg is nothing compared to season3 4 thats its a bad thing or that she wasnt too strong before. She has an excellent win rate atm and a 54% win rate among dedicated mains which she has the most amount of in the game on top of having a whopping 10% play rate. You have a 72% win rate and you think she needs more buffs? lol.
Treune81 (NA)
: ***
thats your comeback? whats going on man! i was entertained for a while. you arent rude? lol thats the understatement of the century. downvoter crykid? man i love it! do more!
Treune81 (NA)
: ***
you claim we are smurfs when we have thousands of games played on our accounts with different patterns of thoughts while you talk on your lvl8 account: hypocrisy and stupidity all mixed into one sad child. gj
Treune81 (NA)
: ***
erratic, irrational, emotional, laughably childish, dellusinal. you need medical help cause i think you are schizophrenic and paranoid. we disagree with you, i mean everyone did, and we are evil? is that intelligence? rational? you are very mad and care deeply about this i can tell, the difference is that you are spending your worthless time downvoting thinking we give a crap about worthless things we give 0 crap about. Have fun bro.
Zelnick (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beoridas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AMoEaL7Y,comment-id=00020000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-14T02:50:55.864+0000) > > subclasses didnt exist back then, thats the only reason why. > > The reason why they were added is that two champions who had vastly different kits and purposes couldnt be both defined as tanks or fighters etc.. > > The issue with j4 is that he has all the fighter/off tank kit. Which by definition is better off, building some health and mitigation since he's an all in guy. But divers are also what they are and have assassin patterns. > > PERSONALLY speaking, i think they should scale down his scalings and add more base dmg to remove some sustain dmg on top of his burst. > > Historically speaking, he was tankier also back when his flag gave armor. > Then, Riot said he was designed as a top laner and should promote that gameplay instead and added more frontloaded dmg on his passive which made him more of a diver even tho he mostly already was. (back when that subclass wasnt a word) > > But Duskblade is cancer as hell. Im fine with youmuus but i think they should remove the active. You're still not getting it: Subclasses being introduced doesn't mean he's now an assassin. Sub classes are "sub" classes, part of another class, so if they actually finalize all their classifications and he is formally recognized as a diver, that's still a type of fighter (part of his original intended playstyle) which is not an assassin.
i think thats where you arent getting it. A subclass means its different from the class they originate from but have most of its attributes. Divers Divers are the more mobile portion of the Fighter class. Divers excel at singling out high-priority targets to blitz toward, immediately forcing those targets (and their teammates) to deal with the diver’s presence. **Divers are not as durable as the tanks or juggernauts of the world, but Divers can take their fair share of punishment while bringing enough damage to be a real kill threat if left unchecked.** He is ALREADY recognized as a diver. hello, i showed it to you?! 2 months ago- http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list Divers: Jarvan. I never said he was an assassin, i said divers have an assassin pattern but they pay the price for it as they are all in-ers.
Treune81 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beoridas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=hJHp6Jve,comment-id=0005000000000000000000000000000000000001,timestamp=2016-08-14T02:06:56.770+0000) > > OMG HE IS HERE TOO? HOLY CRAP THIS GUY Salty crydownvotes again.I found you salty guy.You and your salty downvoter friends.I will downvote your all posts.Watch and see.You aren't people I know.
omg cancer boy. LOOL ''You and your salty downvoter friends.I will downvote your all posts.Watch and see.'' ''salty guy'' LOL. thats a lot of useless effort about things i care nothing of and that is meaningless. But you obv are a very salty one, that no one respect and agree with. And you bring a false pretext that you dont care about it while you care so much that you will downvote us.. omg so scared and saddened, what will I do with less upvotes?
Zelnick (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Beoridas,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=AMoEaL7Y,comment-id=000200000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-08-14T01:58:28.706+0000) > > do you go to university by any chance? > Would your teachers accept a statement without any data to back it up? or an essay without references? > > So you are doing a donald trump and say: oh well i can make statements all i want but its up to you to prove me wrong? thats the contrairy of any logical and modern analytics. Can you imagine that in the court of law? > > According to your logic, i could say the exact samwe thing, Riot displayed their statements about him not being a tank(with proofs i showed you) but im not doing the work for you. > you are a special kind arent you? > > What i said is that J4 ISNT the issue but the items. > > YOU said he isnt paying the price for going squish with no data, > YOU said Riot mentioned it as a tank with an outdated link that Riot said doesnt hold value anymore. > > Then i bring you these two links and even a list: > > http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses > http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list > > so why you not commenting on it? a Rioter who is part of the Lead Design Team with the support of his team wrote specifically that J4 isnt designed as a tank and that he is a diver which i even described for you. And since you did not comment on it, you know VERY well that you were flat wrong and cannot come up with anything else. > > But as far as assassin J4 is concerned, its not an issue as a diver since you potentially pay the price, but he isnt the only one building it. > > Vi, noc and **ADC**s. > > Your WHOLE post is about j4 being skilless, which you cannot prove, about him being designed as a tank, which i quote: > > Now if you want to say that Riot Stattik is a liar and you know better than him, by all means, do it, and send a ticket to Riot Employees to ask why is he classified as a tank in his bio when two months ago the whole Riot team categorized him as a diver (which he always was) > A shield, is not the only god damn thing that define a tank, and a tank doesnt have armor shred. Either way, the general consensus and Riots intention is that Jarvan isn't meant to be an assassin who can deal 1000 nearly true damage in 1/10th of a second at level 6, nothing you've said is going to get around that and I can't fathom why you're incapable of comprehending that. He also still builds like a tanky fighter most typically which is his intended play-style if you simply look at the most common build paths and the fact that he's still labeled as a fighter after all this time. Tanky was definitely his intended play-style, but Riot is willing to negotiate after seeing his usage change and make some updates for the new meta which is no longer tanks as it was in season 5, but regardless what I've said still stands. If it didn't, he never would have been labeled as a tank in the first place, just like zed is never going to be renamed "marksman" or "support." Now, if he was fed like 4/0, ok, I could see some insane burst potential, but not before that point, not even a fed jax or pantheon would deal as much damage as him.
subclasses didnt exist back then, thats the only reason why. The reason why they were added is that two champions who had vastly different kits and purposes couldnt be both defined as tanks or fighters etc.. The issue with j4 is that he has all the fighter/off tank kit. Which by definition is better off, building some health and mitigation since he's an all in guy. But divers are also what they are and have assassin patterns. PERSONALLY speaking, i think they should scale down his scalings and add more base dmg to remove some sustain dmg on top of his burst. Historically speaking, he was tankier also back when his flag gave armor. Then, Riot said he was designed as a top laner and should promote that gameplay instead and added more frontloaded dmg on his passive which made him more of a diver even tho he mostly already was. (back when that subclass wasnt a word) But Duskblade is cancer as hell. Im fine with youmuus but i think they should remove the active.
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