rujitra (NA)
: Riot has, especially in the past year, cracked down on people who are "fake afk" to avoid afk detection when they don't want to play. AFKjungling, maliciously split pushing, and other similar behavior are all punished as trolling with an instant 14 day ban. This chat log is not "worthy" of a 14 day ban on it's own. It is your accounts history of multiple warnings that you ignored that led to the escalation. Riot isn't going to just keep giving you a chat restriction when it's clearly not fixing your behavior. Keep in mind that further misbehavior in chat, no matter how "minor", will result in a permanent ban on your account. I don't understand why it's so hard for you to just play the game without flaming or fucking it over for others.
Ok that makes more sense (how i was previously chat banned and it's easier for me to get the 14 day suspension). "I don't understand why it's so hard for you to just play the game without flaming or fucking it over for others." It's called having human emotions and getting annoyed. If someone flames or trolls you, it's only natural to talk back, not stay reserved all the time. I play hundreds of games, do you really think I flame each game? No, I've stayed reserved and calm and muted people numerous times. But sometimes people crack. It's just a shame this game is too heavily restricted. No one is ever that well behaved irl. It's ridic {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}
: > I had a toxic team last game How your teammates act has no bearing to your behavior. > I tried to carry the game for team How well you do has no bearing to your behavior. > I had 0 curse words on my team chat, I only showed frustration. I kept saying 'fragile mentality' to Irelia Curse words do not make or break toxicity. You can be toxic to someone *without* swears, as evidenced by your very chat logs. Harassing, insulting, and berating other players are **all** toxic, and will be handled accordingly. > yet I got a 14 day suspension. Yes. Because that was the next step up on the punishment escalation. You had 2 chat restrictions before this ban, both of which warned you that continued behavior of a similar kind would cause you to be banned (and as a warning, your reform card for this ban will have told you that *any* instance of validated toxicity following your 14 day ban will cause a permanent suspension). > Do you have to be a good Catholic boy to play this game to not get punished? You don't have to be perfect. You just have to be a decent person. Don't insult your teammates. It's literally that simple. > You can't even show your frustration anymore? If that's what it takes for you to not harass other players, then that's the action to take. You can be frustrated, even outright angry --- just keep it out of the game if you can't be nice. ___ I have removed the second link in your post, as it violated the guideline against Naming and Shaming in the [**Boards Universal Rules**](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/ITFIpNUE). If you have any questions about this moderation action, don't hesitate to reach out to the Boards Moderation Team via: * The [**NA Boards Discord**](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation/7rtKBZLi-boards-moderation-discord-verification) * The [**Discuss the Boards**](https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-moderation) sub-board
Oops sorry I forgot about the name thing, wasn't intentional But yes, it's just ridiculous how something like this is 14 days worthy. I guess you can troll and int and afk and get away with it, as long as it's not recorded on your chat log? Got it - thanks for the clarification. Next time I'm being trolled imma just pretend afk and mute all. At least I can get away with that I guess {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: "why do i always end up with teammates like you guys" "god u need to be quiet" "Best Liss NYC: fragile mentality Best Liss NYC: no wonder ure bad Best Liss NYC: 1/4 Best Liss NYC: go uninstall Best Liss NYC: afk now Best Liss NYC: please Best Liss NYC: useless top Best Liss NYC: uve done nothing all game Best Liss NYC: u might as ewll be afk" "imagine telling ppl 'imagine sweating over a video game' when ure the one having a breakdown" Sounds like you been flaming a lot and thats what got ya busted. Trash talking you team is a 0 tolerance policy in this game anymore. I don't support it, but that's how it be...Snowflakes for the Common Denominator. Even telling someone how to play better can get ya reported anymore, even if it was just being nice and trying to be helpful.
Is this really 14 days ban worthy? I didn't even cuss on this game. Like what.
: it's not even difficult to just not flame. If someone is being obnoxious in chat or with pings, mute them. If they're playing poorly, .. do you think telling them that they're bad is going to improve the situation?
Even when they're trolling and flaming you? Is muting always the resolution? That's kinda depressing Imagine if that's in real life, people talk shit at you and you're just supposed to stay quiet. Yikes
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: I despise your champion as an assassin main, but congratz c:
> [{quoted}](name=Daddy Issues,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kdu4Endr,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-05T07:33:16.074+0000) > > I despise your champion as an assassin main, but congratz c: whos ur main? ;o
: Finally Master Solo Queue w/ only Liss games (after all these years..)
And yes.. I mostly only go Electrocute on her, b/c aftershock is for Liss rookies <3
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: Disconnecting every ~30 seconds (35MS) on high speed internet?
Update (since this might help some people who are facing the same issue): Spoke to a tech rioter, she recommended me to download TunnelBear (VPN).. Connecting to VPN resolved my issue. My next step which I haven't done is to turn off my modem and wifi for 5 minutes. If that doesn't work, I'll have to run a WinMTR test (hopefully I won't have to)... Anyways that's my latest update!
: Apartment? Could be interference. Lots of other wifi networks and people running their microwaves. Try changing your router's broadcast channel? Assuming you're connecting via Wifi of course.
> [{quoted}](name=Metal Janna,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbzuQoOm,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-06-18T03:02:29.231+0000) > > Apartment? Could be interference. Lots of other wifi networks and people running their microwaves. > Try changing your router's broadcast channel? > Assuming you're connecting via Wifi of course. I actually disconnected my Wifi and connected my internet straight from the modem. Im not sure if it's my internet provider or what.... which is odd bc my internet is very fast.
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: I agree, the system is terrible for a competitive game. I have been told to get cancer and die and that they hope my house burns and my whole family dies, and yet I am punished for this. There needs to be more leniency. The less that people can say to each other, the more people will troll and int. Because trollers and inters rarely get punished. But if you say the first thing to them, then you'll be punished. Something needs to change about the entire honor system. Chat restrictions are supposed to be a warning; then why does a mere warning strip you of all end of season rewards, and takes you months to restore what you once had? Even better, bring back the warning from the old client that you had been recently reported for verbal abuse. That may get people to step back on what they say. I know that if you've recently been toxic (but not enough to warrant a punishment) then your honor progress will be slowed. Why cant we get a warning in the client that we have recently been unsportsmanlike and that honor progress has been slowed?
Dude. Checkout my post: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/E6bev8ZP-please-help-me-understand-how-did-i-get-chat-restricted-over-this Tell me if my chat log was out of line or not. It's as tame as yours and I got chat restricted. Riot punishment algo is such a joke yikes
: that's not prove
How's this not enough proof? To quote you: " the reform card only shows you **1-5 recent games** as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone." Only the chat log it clearly shows that my punishment was only based on one game (which was not even that toxic)? I'm still waiting for Riot to respond to my ticket.
: It's laughable that you got chat banned for that but hey, it's riot, and money is more important than people's experiences so they'd rather spend their on yachts than on paying people to make a discipline system that works right.
Pretty sure they ban people so they make (or buy) new accounts and buy more RP. Smart business ploy if you ask me. Too easy to get punished nowadays it's such a joke lmao
: Please help me understand.. how did I get chat restricted over THIS?
It's also very telling how this community loves to downvote posts that display any sort of rebellion against Riot's corrupt system. Sure, my chat log shows a slight degree of 'toxicity', but it's not extreme and I was just merely defending myself against a flaming troll. Why/when has this community become such snowflakes? In real life, if someone talks sh!t about you in front of your face, would you just quietly accept it and not say anything back? ALL THE TIME? Surely everyone has their breaking point. Same with online games. Too many trolls, too many times I've stayed quiet. It's only fair you talk back at them? I don't understand this community.
Kei143 (NA)
: The reform card shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone. I challenge you to write to https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us and ask them how any games were considered in your punishment. Their answer would surprise you.
Kei143 (NA)
: The punishment algorithm is consistency x severity. Meaning you can be punished for 1 game of extreme toxicity or many recent games of minor toxicity. If you were toxic in a game and you weren't punished for it, then that game is stored in your behavioral history and will be used as part of the punishment. People make the wrong assumption that people are punished on individual games alone, but the reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone. The flaw isn't the algorithm, the flaw is that people don't know how the algorithm works and how close they are towards a punishment.
I have not been 'toxic' in previous games and my report card only shows 1 game log that contributed to this penalty. if you need prove: http://i68.tinypic.com/s5fltx.png
Kei143 (NA)
: The punishment algorithm is consistency x severity. Meaning you can be punished for 1 game of extreme toxicity or many recent games of minor toxicity. If you were toxic in a game and you weren't punished for it, then that game is stored in your behavioral history and will be used as part of the punishment. People make the wrong assumption that people are punished on individual games alone, but the reform card only shows you 1-5 recent games as examples of unacceptable behavior, doesn't mean you were punished for 1 game alone. The flaw isn't the algorithm, the flaw is that people don't know how the algorithm works and how close they are towards a punishment.
I have not been 'toxic' in previous games and my report card only shows 1 game log that contributed to this penalty.
: I saw a youtube vid that basically says that if you talk and ppl report you, you can get chat restricted over a 'negativity' clause, people can INT but if they don't talk, and you try to make them correct their path via text and both report each other, you're the one getting affected. So basically we need to avoid communication via text because the system isn't adequate enough.
This is it. I think the algorithm aggressively looks for frequent chat activity as an indicator to 'verbal abuse'. This is such a joke. Riot needs to update their algo. I barely said anything toxic. It's like riot wants us to be submissive players. We're not even allowed to defend ourselves online and talk back. So frustrating
: I believe this is dumb to get punished for. I have said and dealt with way worse every day. I am extremely confused as to where the line is between punishment and no punishment. I mean... I occasionally get people threatening to rape and kill my family, but their accounts remain active like they did nothing wrong lol
I'm speechless. Riot's punishment algorithm is so flawed
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