Doozku (NA)
: "The new champion is going to be better Jungle, I know it"
+1 Then when the champion is actually announced as a jungler, the boards just _know_ they're better top/mid/bot
: Okay let's address this. If Guardian Angel and MoM **WASN'T** considered ADC items, then why are they getting changed in the upcoming "ADC/Marksman patch"?
They're options for some scenarios for ADCs, but calling them ADC items is a stretch. An ADC with both Maw and GA is one of the below: A. feeding so horribly that he has no choice but to go defensive B. new to the game and building wrong C. Graves
: So... Why are defensive ADC items (Guardian Angel and MoM in particular) getting buffed exactly?
: I can't help feeding the Girl Champion in this game
There's also nothing like when {{champion:67}} pins you against the wall and has her way with you
: "Nasus is a lategame champ"
Yes he is. The only reason you're saying he's not is because ADCs scale even harder - and we all know ADC damage is a problem already 2 items in. He may not be doing late game Vayne levels of destruction, but he's still one of highest scaling champions in the game and taking down champions/turrets/inhibs/nexuses with a just Q or two.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blâdedancer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0LUAlPqP,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2018-04-30T18:39:32.744+0000) > > Leave J4 alone. His ult damage hasn't changed since the dawn of League. > > {{champion:59}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:5}} > > These champions are _supposed_ to **DIVE** in and obliterate you, _especially_ if they go full AD. That's their one job. If they can't do that, they're useless. It's sad that Fighters are so obscure these days that no one knows what they do anymore. Isn't Olaf more of a Juggernaut, and Xin/Panth skirmishers? Them doing yuge damage makes sense since they are more fragile (and olaf lacks an actual engage tool); the others are meant to be meaty fighters with stronger engages and staying power in a fight, with lower outright burst.
1. Xin and Vi are the poster boy/girl pictures for Divers. 2. The description of Divers includes this sentence - "Divers can take their fair share of punishment while bringing enough damage to be a real kill threat if left unchecked." 3. The subclasses are just loose descriptions of their kits - what they build matters more. A Nunu that builds AP is effectively a Mage, a Katarina that builds tank items is effectively a Tank, and a J4 that builds Duskblade is...?
Dessem (EUW)
: TIL Riven has gotten a mythic+ skin four consecutive years
> Championship Riven in 2016 Are you really counting this?
Raiyza (NA)
: {{champion:23}}
> [{quoted}](name=Blâdedancer,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RibPsI56,comment-id=0010,timestamp=2018-04-30T18:25:14.500+0000) > > The whole dragging a sword on ~~the ground~~ a leash idea is still stupid Happy?
Jaygo41 (NA)
: Fix the Ridiculous Dichotomy You've Created with J4
Leave J4 alone. His ult damage hasn't changed since the dawn of League. {{champion:59}} {{champion:62}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:240}} {{champion:2}} {{champion:80}} {{champion:5}} These champions are _supposed_ to **DIVE** in and obliterate you, _especially_ if they go full AD. That's their one job. If they can't do that, they're useless. It's sad that Fighters are so obscure these days that no one knows what they do anymore.
: Shen skin everybody! (Riven and TF too)
They really should rework Shen (again) before giving him a new skin. The whole dragging a sword on the ground idea is still stupid, and they're just creating more work for themselves later on when this is corrected
: Am I the only one that thinks GA feels awkward?
: You also omitted the fact Riven is almost permashielded with 45% CDR, and she is not a support, nor tank. Her shield is also mobility and can cancel her animations.
With 45% CDR (which no Riven even gets) her rank 5 E drops from 6 seconds to 3.3 seconds. With a 1.5 second duration that's 45% of the time. "Permashielded" huh?
Ap0l10 (NA)
: Illoai... somebody help me find a cure to having a tentacle shoved down ur throat
Don't bother trying to win in lane. Illoai is just like Darius, where if you screw up once in lane you're straight up fucked for all the laning phase. If you have a decent jungler, you're lucky and may have a chance at winning lane, but 9 /10 times they don't understand how dangerous Illaoi is (_especially _ with her ult) and will dive her under tower and start feeding her even when things were going relatively well. The absolute best scenario (besides getting a good jungler) is go relatively even in cs and don't feed her any kills. However once mid game starts your team will start giving her kills like candy anyway. They'll get caught by her Es, start running away, your whole team starts focusing on killing the tentacles while Illoai and fiends destroy your turrets, hopes, and dreams. TL;DR Illaoi is cancer and I ban her every game.
: Irelia or FIzz or Caitlynn
Rioter Comments
koshkyra (NA)
: "Omg!! I couldnt kill the adc because of the stupid (insert enchanter) shield spam!! So op!!"
Good point, OP. Let me instead focus on killing Taric with loads of HP/Armor/MR and can heal himself. But for some reason while I'm spending all this time chasing and chipping away at Taric, the ADC just destroyed my entire team, Baron, my inhib, the nexus turrets, and is now /dancing in front of fountain waiting for my team to respawn so he can quadra them all over again. How did that happen?
: People still dont realize grouping isnt always the best option when behind I guess. If you group up after a fed ADC with ok peel you are losing the game most times...
This. If we're losing, we're more than likely going to lose a 5v5. If they're taking air dragon or something, I'm going to be split pushing top to get a tower or two, get our gold back up, so we actually habe a chance at winning LATER
: > [{quoted}](name=Blâdedancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6ObJoXK1,comment-id=002a,timestamp=2018-04-26T21:08:24.620+0000) > > Copper > Bronze > Silver > Gold > Platinum > Titanium > Diamond > Master > Challenger > > Calling it now pretty sure copper is more valuable than bronze and platinum is more valuable than titanium
> [{quoted}](name=TempName74814,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=6ObJoXK1,comment-id=002a0000,timestamp=2018-04-26T22:18:04.743+0000) > > pretty sure copper is more valuable than bronze > > and platinum is more valuable than titanium 1. Bronze is an alloy that mostly contains Copper, but is much harder. 2. Platinum is harder than Silver and Gold, but pales in comparison to how hard Titanium is - which pales in comparison to Diamond. 3. Gold is more valuable than Platinum already.
: Please add wood tier please add wood tier please add wood tier
Copper Bronze Silver Gold Platinum Titanium Diamond Master Challenger Calling it now
: I think Venom is a good aproximation of what we originally expected with Kai'sa
: Details on the upcoming changes to Marksmen (ADCs)
I can see it now... > [{quoted}](name=Rito Games,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sEMr6vJa,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-18T16:17:02.394+0000) >We felt ADCs were reaching...well, _infinity_ levels of damage a bit too early, so we had to swing the nerf bat. {{item:3031}} Infinity Edge Cost: ~~3400~~ 3500 > [{quoted}](name=Rito Games,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=sEMr6vJa,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-18T16:17:02.394+0000) > However to make up for this massive nerf and to ensure ADCs remain fun and relevant in the early parts of the game, we created a new component for Infinity Edge! New Item! Limit Approacher {{item:3123}} +60 attack damage +15% critical strike chance UNIQUE: Critical strike bonus damage is increased by 49.99999...% Cost: 1200 [Marksmen & Yasuo only]
: If you an Ap user prepare to adjust to your new build
Damn, I was expecting {{item:3070}}{{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} {{item:3070}} I am disappoint OP
: Conqueror...
There's a separate stat that says damage that would have been mitigated. The displayed damage on Conqueror is very misleading.
: Why does Riot give small-scale reworks to those who barely need it while ignoring the ones that do?
> Certain champions need reworks very badly Who are these champions? The only two examples you gave, Mordekaiser and Skarner, have gotten reworks already. Whether they were _good_ reworks or not doesn't change the fact that they were reworked.
: Irelia is way too strong
You took out half her hp?? Wtf Camille needs a nerf
: STOP BANNING DECLARED PICKS
I want to upvote but you're a Teemo player...I'm so conflicted {{sticker:sg-janna}}
: On 'thin skins' and 'SJWs' and other tired, toxic player talking points
I don't understand the point of this post. The players you're telling to "be better" most likely won't be on these forums in the first place, won't be writing/reading chastising posts like this if they were on here, and certainly won't be reading this entire novel and be familiar words like acerbic. Sooooo..... {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: High Diamond top advice: Always point your misfortunes toward your ADC player
> [{quoted}](name=ADCs ruined LoL,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=pc8hgtT0,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-13T15:33:56.407+0000) > > I've taken a week off of this game to consider how to deal with my escalating bad attitude in-game on the heels of being fucked in the ass by ~~bad~~ miss fortune, playing on my alternate account. {{sticker:sg-miss-fortune}}
: Conqerur Rune busted
http://champion.gg/champion/Riven/Top?league=platplus
: {{champion:427}}x{{champion:57}}
Then all you need is Elderwood {{champion:120}} and it'll be an epic.... {{sticker:sg-ezreal}} treesome.
Bombardox (EUW)
: I guess this is what you call "Evelucian"
7adzius (EUW)
: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O609Vkqf2ZI this video describes the biggest problems about the splash art
> [{quoted}](name=7adzius,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=pnx77rrj,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-04-10T19:06:48.849+0000) > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O609Vkqf2ZI > > this video describes the biggest problems about the splash art tl;dr Victoria's Secret model = not allowed Lane Bryant model = fine
: Y'ALL ARE ONLY MAD BECAUSE KAI'SA HAS B00BS
The funny part is if she was just a heftier built girl and hinted at being some type of pan/a/trans<insert any prefix besides hetero here>sexual, there would be no complaints. Nothing about her cleavage or lack of scars. Nothing about her being not voidy enough. Riot would be applauded for making such a brilliant and unique champion.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blâdedancer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8u3Eerag,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2018-04-08T23:57:35.625+0000) > > And I find it _**EXTEMELY **_ hard to believe all this hooplah about Kai&#x27;Sa is just about a deep neckline. You&#x27;re really going to tell me that months of complaints about Kai&#x27;Sa&#x27;s looks, since she was announced, has always just been about her body suit just being a little too revealing? _Really_? That everyone will be perfectly fine with her having a nice body, nice hair, nice skin, size, shape, etc. etc. etc. if only that pesky v neck was a little higher?? > > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} Here is the point We are making. (Sorry for this Miss Johansson) Black Widow in the MCU. Scarlet Johansson is a beautiful woman and yes she has breasts. https://content4.promiflash.de/article-images/gallery1024/natasha-romanoffblack-widow-scarlett-johansson-in-the-avengers.jpg But see how when you make her more like Kai'sa: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTyD_p-XAAAlXvo.jpg Suddenly something just isn't right. Black Widow is sexy, but there is absolutely no need to obviously flaunt a natural characteristic of Scarlet's body. (And I am well aware that this isn't actually her cleavage its just to use as an example)
> [{quoted}](name=TheHobbits,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8u3Eerag,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-04-09T03:17:02.475+0000) > > Here is the point We are making. > > (Sorry for this Miss Johansson) > > Black Widow in the MCU. Scarlet Johansson is a beautiful woman and yes she has breasts. > > https://content4.promiflash.de/article-images/gallery1024/natasha-romanoffblack-widow-scarlett-johansson-in-the-avengers.jpg > > But see how when you make her more like Kai&#x27;sa: > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CTyD_p-XAAAlXvo.jpg > > Suddenly something just isn&#x27;t right. Black Widow is sexy, but there is absolutely no need to obviously flaunt a natural characteristic of Scarlet&#x27;s body. (And I am well aware that this isn&#x27;t actually her cleavage its just to use as an example) I appreciate the example, but I still find it hard to believe months of posts and thousands of comments (including her not being "Voidy" enough) just amounts to "zip that up more young lady!" If Riot released her with the first Black Widow pic rather than the second, do you honestly think all these complaints about her attractiveness would vanish? I doubt it. There's waaay more going on here psychologically and socially, even if people won't admit it. Personally I barely noticed her chest area was exposed in the splash.
: The V-Neck Argument
> [{quoted}](name=TheHobbits,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=8u3Eerag,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-04-08T22:37:37.949+0000) > > This whole Kai'Sa V-neck argument comes done to one thing. Believability. And I find it _**EXTEMELY **_ hard to believe all this hooplah about Kai'Sa is just about a deep neckline. You're really going to tell me that months of complaints about Kai'Sa's looks, since she was announced, has always just been about her body suit just being a little too revealing? _Really_? That everyone will be perfectly fine with her having a nice body, nice hair, nice skin, size, shape, etc. etc. etc. if only that pesky v neck was a little higher?? {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Nymzo (NA)
: I don't know about you but personally if I was facing a horde of ugly, dangerous and disgusting monsters, I would want to cover as much as my skin as possible with whatever armor I can make out of carved skins.
> [{quoted}](name=Nymzo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qZKjEQPf,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2018-04-08T20:50:00.832+0000) > > I don&#x27;t know about you but personally if I was facing a horde of ugly, dangerous and disgusting monsters, I would want to cover as much as my skin as possible with whatever armor I can make out of carved skins. I would press ctrl+5 to put my helmet on, but that's just me
: is this comment a joke? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: You make one mistake. Physical (natural) beauty/attractiveness and selfcare/outfits are two different things. Kai'Sa has a good body/pretty face, okay. That doesn't need any reason or explanation. Her living eldritch horror of a suit having a giant cleavage though is illogical in-universe. Some things would be illogical in our world but are logical in Runeterra (Garen's pauldrons would be very hindering to us, but since we see him pulling a massive statue, I guess these pauldrons don't pose a problem to him, it's logical in-universe). Kai'Sa's suit isn't logical in-universe. Ahri's and Eve attires are. Etc etc.
> [{quoted}](name=Phazanor,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qZKjEQPf,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-08T18:24:20.378+0000) > > You make one mistake. Physical (natural) beauty/attractiveness and selfcare/outfits are two different things. Kai&#x27;Sa has a good body/pretty face, okay. That doesn&#x27;t need any reason or explanation. Her living eldritch horror of a suit having a giant cleavage though is illogical in-universe. Some things would be illogical in our world but are logical in Runeterra (Garen&#x27;s pauldrons would be very hindering to us, but since we see him pulling a massive statue, I guess these pauldrons don&#x27;t pose a problem to him, it&#x27;s logical in-universe). Kai&#x27;Sa&#x27;s suit isn&#x27;t logical in-universe. Ahri&#x27;s and Eve attires are. Etc etc. Her suit doesn't have breasts - she does. I would put that in the physical (natural) beauty/attractiveness category.
Rioter Comments
Kai Guy (NA)
: Yo boards, lets talk balance
Balance to me is less about individual champions, and more about their classes and how they fit into the game's structure and length. Are fighters ever strong at any point in the game? Are junglers too weak? or too influential? When? Are late-game champions spiking too early? These are examples of quintessential balance questions because they're all about windows of opportunity. Every class should have a section in the game where they can really make a difference in the game's outcome. In any one patch an individual champion may be not be the most optimal choice, but as long as her class has a window of opportunity in the game to do well your skill with that champion can more than make up for it. Take away that window of opportunity though? No amount of skill will matter, which completely sucks for that particular champion and all other champions with a similar window of opportunity. Unfortunately, the downside of this sort of over-arching balance is that it can't be fixed with some number tweaks here and there. Riot revamping the jungle 3-4 times in past seasons is proof of that.
HOU5E (NA)
: Hotfixed Irelia Discussion
Riot couldn't even wait 24 hours to start memeing. ## #BetterNerfIrelia
: I hate it when girls call me daddy
You probably shouldn't have a daughter then
THE D1C (NA)
: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cgnU5XrITY8
: Can Ninja Tabi not be nerfed if ADCs aren't being nerfed?
> [{quoted}](name=Rito Games,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Vh5I4lWv,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-27T20:26:59.191+0000) > > >Ninja Tabi is your one armor option without having to build full tanks items. It's the **only** way to get some relief from AD damage, especially ADCs, without spending 2400+ gold and for some reason everyone keeps building it. >For this reason Ninja Tabi needed to be nerfed. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}}
: Other classes have evolved from being only good at X time. Why can't ADC?
Because they're ranged and build AD, Crit, and AS - which are the highest scaling stats in the game that also scale with each other. They are going to hyperscale and be better than all other classes late game no matter what. You have to make them suck early to balance the **inevitable** godly late game. Unless Riot plans on making all ADCs melee and deleting crit from the game, this has to be the case.
: Suggested Botlane Nerfs by an Toplane/ADC Player
> Some people have said their item costs should go up. I have to ask, "Why?" Why should ADC become shitty early game and still ungodly late game? Because that's the whole point of the class. Why else would the meta evolve to stick a support with them in lane? Because they were shitty early, and were **meant** to be shitty early. Supports are there to make up for that historical weakness. Late game teamfights were and will always be "catch the ADC", the problem is they're reaching late game damage by mid game. > Then you'll just go back to complaining about ADCs being broken late game and ADC players will complain about feeling meaningless early. I wish there was a late game to complain about. And ADCs complaining about feeling meaningless early is like a hooker complaining about how her feet hurt from being in heels all night. It comes with the job.
: {{champion:99}}
Some guys have all the {{champion:99}} Some guys have all the {{champion:67}}
: What's the problem? Only a few champions actually have so much mobility to proc it repeatedly.
So because it's only useful on a handful of champions, might as well go all the way and make it useless for everyone? I'd understand if they also increased the lethality/mpen to 30-40 as well.
: I think a way of compensating it without breaking it would be to give the lethality/mpen scaling ratios so it won't feel completely useless late game since it won't be available as often
Lethality already sucks early game because it inherently scales with level. Now with this CD the rune sucks early and late for AD champions - it's useless.
: There were a lot of others champions that used it almost 100% of the time as well {{champion:55}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:157}} and honestly this rune was strong as fck
Even Yasuo doesn't typically pick it: http://na.op.gg/champion/yasuo/statistics/top The only champion that it's OP on is the one that has dashes to champions with multiple resets (aka new Irelia)
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