Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: April 25
Has there been any thoughts about who will be next after Aatrox is finished with his update?
: This shipping was entirely fan made, and these two beig friends I don't know if it's even cannon anymore.
them being friends is about as cannon as its ever been. Which honestly is to say that its only hinted at lightly, but that's about it. Riot have not said anything about it, nor has it been thrown away. Its likely they are keeping it hanging in the air case they come up with an idea for it. Would they end up being a couple? no, Wukong's personality seems like he wouldn't be up for a romantic relationship, I would bet Ahri doesn't want to be in another relationship after she killed her first boyfriend (likely that experience traumatized her out of having any more relationships just for the possibility of a relapse) and we already have one true honest to goodness couple in the game and they just so happen to be Vastayan so it wouldn't make sense for Riot to make two couples Vastayan when no one else is in a solid aromatic relationship (Riot even mentioned the marriage between {{champion:22}} and {{champion:23}} has been left to interpretation for the players). But it is very possible they would solidify them as friends in the same way Jinx is friends with Ziggs seeing as its something that they never even explored in the first place but has been left hanging there as some random fact for YEARS with no sign of them trying to remove it. but most importantly, and let me make this very clear, JUST WAIT TILL THEY ADD MORE SH*T. its pretty much a moot point till Riot officially says if they are still related in anyway or not. Until they say something, all we have to go on is Wukong is STILL the only champ on Ahri's related champ list and She's the only champ other then Yi on Wukongs, which if they were going to remove, they would have removed when they got their lores updated as there is NO point in them leaving it and Riot has been taking the time to update this stuff, so its not something they would have forgotten. On the other hand, Them being on each others related champs list can mean ANYTHING at this point (seeing in a similar sense Lux and Darius are both listed under Garen's "related champs" without so much as a section to explain why) and its not enough to go on one way or the other weather they are still friends or not. but at the very least, no, its far from anything close enough to say they are a couple. Nothing will be gained by arguing over facts that just don't exist.
: {{champion:111}} "Beware the Depths." Honestly, I'm a tad disappointed though. They didn't really reveal anything new since we already knew about all these reworks.
I'm just happy they cleared up the fact that Aatrox is NOT getting a full VGU. At the very least when I sit there and say "I think Wukong will be after Aatrox", I now can show them that no, I'm not saying he needs a VGU before champs like {{champion:36}} and {{champion:9}}, I'm saying he needs a smaller scale update. That said, We've heard about Aatrox being updated like 3-4 times now on different Champion road maps, I know the scale of work on him has changed multiple times, but It would have been nice if they at least mentioned some champs they are considering after him. I'm sure they've given it SOME thought by now.
Besteau (NA)
: Champions as Pokemon
{{champion:62}} gee, I wonder what he would be :^)
: Do you guys still have any hope for mid season?
I'm hoping Riot says Aatrox is finished, ready to be shipped and Wukong is the next champ to get an update after him, aside from that I'm not really holding on to the idea that there will be much about Mid season for me to look forward to. I know Akali and Nunu will be coming up for VGUs, mages are taking a hit while Lux is getting buffed, Wukong already got a skin in a crappy skinline so he's not likely to get another chance for a skin with new VO and animations for another 2 years and the only thing I feel that I can look forward to atm that I know is happening is more Ionian lore that Riot said they were adding, yet the way they phrased that could have just as easily meant "we are adding this some time in the distant future". So sadly until we see the Roadmap for mid season, can't say I have much to be exited for.
: IT'S HAPPENING!!!! MECHA SION CHROMAS!!!!!
must be nice >_> {{item:3070}} {{champion:62}} {{item:3070}}
: Who do you main? (3 years later)
Been a {{champion:62}} main 3 years ago, still a {{champion:62}} main now. His meta build atm may be Assassin with his Diver/Bruiser build being considered poor in comparison, but he's remained my favorite, I still feel he has a bunch of potential for his Gameplay, lore and even skins. I did pick up {{champion:150}} as my secondary and have really started to enjoy {{champion:39}}, But no one will top Wukong for me at this point. I can't wait to see what Riot has in store for him in the future.
Rioter Comments
Eedat (NA)
: What do people think of Wukong currently?
Honestly he just needs an update. His kit is made of bits and pieces of things that you'd see in multiple classes mashed together (Vanguard Passive and Ult, Diver E, Assassin W and a Q which is pretty generic but I believe is very common amount Juggernauts in some form), His reliance on {{item:3147}} ended up warranting Riot to do a preemptive buff on his Q which seems to have made his win rate jump up in no time flat telling that his balance is on a knife edge where one minor change could push him one way or the other and to top it off he has ended up getting a very singular build path, which USED to be his secondary path ( don't even get me started on the useless AP scaling on his W). All of this stuff are issues do to how outdated his kit is (seeing as they didn't have the same concept of classes back when he was created) and could be fixed with an update, focusing on certain aspects of him and his kit but leaving it open ended enough for multiple builds and styles of play. He's still got a lot of potential waiting for Riot to tap into.
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: if you were to remove any ability from any champion what would it be?
: I do vaguely remember a rioter saying that Rakan and Xayah will be getting some more lore some time this year
It sounded like it would be all the Vastaya in Ionia but yea, those two kind of were left at what felt like a "to be continued". Will be nice to see what exactly they are up too with Noxus being out of the picture and all.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hW8IVJJA,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2018-04-03T21:59:21.731+0000) > > Yea and it really is fun. unfortunately the company that made it are ending service for it this month, but on the plus side is that fans of the game have taken up the mantle and are working to bring it back. Damn how long do I have if I want to try it out? End of the month? Or sooner?
26th I think they said. After that if the team working on the revival of paragon is successful it will still be a few years I'd assume before they can release an open beta. Right now it seems to be setting up for a closed beta.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=hW8IVJJA,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-04-03T19:04:06.115+0000) > > I do like the concept of his Ult in DOTA, just not too sure about how good it would be for league. I do know his transformation ability would be really awkward unless he can turn into jungle monsters, but even then that could still be awkward. I personally would like to see more of Paragon Wukong. I feel like they really nailed the concept of him. His ult was a great concept, though it looks like Riot won't be able to use it seeing as people are working on reviving Paragon. > > http://projectparagongame.com/hello-world/ Paragon looks fun! Have you played it much?
Yea and it really is fun. unfortunately the company that made it are ending service for it this month, but on the plus side is that fans of the game have taken up the mantle and are working to bring it back.
: This is the Wukong I'd like to see in LoL!
I do like the concept of his Ult in DOTA, just not too sure about how good it would be for league. I do know his transformation ability would be really awkward unless he can turn into jungle monsters, but even then that could still be awkward (though hilarious when someone goes to attack scuttle, only for it to turn into Wukong XD ) . I personally would like to see more of Paragon Wukong. I feel like they really nailed the concept of him minus his transformation ability. His ult was a great concept, though it looks like Riot won't be able to use it seeing as people are working on reviving Paragon. http://projectparagongame.com/hello-world/
Sharjo (EUW)
: Do keep in mind that, even through all of the updates, the only regions that are technically "done" are Shurima, Mount Targon and the Shadow Isles. There's still the ninjas of Ionia, Syndra and Master Yi, all of the Voidborn, the Demacian outsiders (for lack of a better term), half of Noxus, Bilgewater's aquatic champions, the last quarter of Zaun, Heimerdinger and whole bunch of independent champions to do yet, not even counting yordles and the Freljord as you already pointed out. Dunno if we're in for anything yordle related just yet. Though I'll never say no to yordle lore.
The recent video Riot made did say they are going to be doing the rest of Ionia and where they are now 7 years after the Noxian invasion, including the Vastaya who reside in Ionia. Don't know if that means we will be getting that soon or if that part is "a work in progress", but it does feel like they are going to get the meat of Ionia out of the way. Nunu I would assume would usher in the Freljord update and if Riot REALLY plays it right, they could release a new Yordle who makes his way to the Freljord and becomes the local Yordle for that region, letting them do the Bandle City lore which is where that yordle would embark from, and end in the Freljord, meeting the reworked Nunu and being the start of the Freljord lore update. But that's just how I'd do it :p
: Candidates for: Mythology based skins (part 2)
I mean, Wukong already has a Sun Wukong skin. Technically he has 4 (just that one of them is more apparent then the others) so there really isn't a huge need for him to get another one. Maybe a more human like version of him, but that would need to be for another skin line and done out of convenience, for example if they were to make him fit into the Project skin line better by making him human with a cyber tail or something along those lines. But aside from that, Mythology based skins are really an under appreciated concept that Riot could really dig into more. Journey to the West alone has enough interesting characters to make a giant skin line based around it. {{champion:13}} {{champion:79}} and {{champion:5}} could work pretty well for the other 3 main characters in it and {{champion:12}} is a perfect fit for the Bull Demon king.
: What kind of traits,themes,aesthetic,weapons,accents would you like to see in future champs.
1. an elephant man character, sort of like Ganesha who could potentially be an Ascended. It would be a nice way to diverge from the idea of Shurima being so heavily influenced by Ancient Egypt and help make it stand out as its own thing. 2. 4 armed fighter 3. a Freljordian Yordle 4. Another fighter who uses an odd object as a weapon in the same sense as {{champion:24}} with his lamp. 5. A Nun chuck user. could make them over sized with blades on the ends to give them a unique feel or something.
: Discover Ionia | /dev diary - League of Legends
This sounds like one ambitious lore update coming. So many factions being talked about including more Vastaya lore. I can't wait to see what they have planned X3
: People only hate it because you're trying to force it down everyone's throats. It's just how you're _insisting_ on it that makes it so... obnoxious. Ships are like dicks. It's fine to have one, but don't whip it out in public and wave it in peoples' faces. You have tumblr for that.
I like to keep it to myself and hidden from the general public and only show it to someone I have gotten into a close relationship with and feel that we're at a point where I'm ready to show it off :p
CoffeeMug (EUNE)
: Pls dont give him a hard form of CC. He's already annoying to deal with just his R. Make it maybe a ground or slow? Disarm? But no hard CC. True stealth + hard CC shouldn't be a thing.
You know, after seeing Disarm on Irelia I think that would be pretty neat to see more of, so long as its done in a way that doesn't make it too overbearing. Though I think the game has enough slows to throw around.
: Tell me what goes through your mind when you see the full image.
: I don’t think it would work with his current kit though. His abilities don’t really compliment a diver/bruiser playstyle and if he’s played that way it’s just a cut rate version of what others like Camille can do. Minimal CC, low base damage, no shields or sustain; if they wanted him to work as both I feel they’d have to change his kit around to make it work. I’m not against it working both ways of course, but if they were to just change his passive at the moment I don’t think it’s beneficial to make a change that compliments the less optimal style.
The problem is that if they rework his passive just cause it suits the needs of his most optimal build, they will have no reason to go back to revive his original play style. and he DOES work as a Diver, the only problem is the parts of his kit that make him work as a diver are all over the place. The only reason he's got any assassin potential is because his E does so much damage and {{item:3147}} lets him abuse his invis. His armor pen from his Q made to work better on tanks, not squishes and his passive and Ult are stuff that would be better suited for a tank. The passive I suggested is LITERALLY the same thing he's got now, only with different rules that help him in lane and in the jungle more and I've counted 2-3 different versions of this passive idea in some form in this post so far. Assassin can make use of it cause frankly if he's playing assassin then he should go jungle since he can get to bot lane to gank easier (If he's an assassin like people say, he shouldn't be relying on his current passive anyway) and Diver builds can use it to have presence in lane. Despite what people say and how people build him, he is a LOT like other divers. He just lacks the kind of fight sustain and a mechanic to make use of his AS boost from his E. If they reworked his passive just to fit his most broken play style, what reason would I have to believe they would go back and keep his original play style when they do a larger update?
: The way I see it, if the passive was change it should be changed to fix Wukong’s 2nd biggest problem, his lack of class identity. He currently is split between 3 classes; his passive and R belong on a tank, his W and E give him the hit and run movements pattern of an assassin, and his Q and W feel like a slayer. A character can be a mix of 2 classes and still work but not relay 3. He is getting spread too thin. So if you were to fix Wukong you would want to ratchet down on his identify. Changing his passive would make him less of a tank so you would want to move him more towards assassin or slayer. With that in mind how about this Way of Wuju: After 10 second out of combat or every 5/4/3 auto attacks his next auto attack deals 10% extra damage and heals him for 50% of the damage dealt, halved agents minions. This is more slayer focuses as it encourages continuous auto attacking, but the upfront damage also enhances the assassin style game play. It helps with one of his current weak points which is no lane sustain. Removing the old passive means that he needs to be more careful with his engages and will rely more on a good e to survive. Over all less tank more slayer, a more focused Wukong
He's listed as a Diver, why not keep him along the lines of a Diver? Hell from what I've seen of recent Divers they all have aspects of Assassin, Slayer and Tank, but done in a way that lets them do it in a healthier way then in the past by toning back one aspect or another. WW is a bit more durable and Sustain reliant but lacking in burst, Cam is more lacks durability and makes up for it with Sustain and Burst damage. pretty much they focus on two of those three aspects, why not just do the same for Wukong?
: I'd rather it focus in more on his assassin play style myself, but I think there is a pretty big divide between Wukong players as to whether they would rather him remain an assassin or fall in line as a bruiser.
There is no real reason that it has to be one or the other. We have Kayn and Cam who are Assassin like Divers and it would be really easy to have Wukong be able to take advantage different parts of his kit to obtain this goal. Isn't one of the goals for any rework to NOT alienate certain players in favor of whats just become the norm due to meta shifts? Fact is some of us don't like to play assassins. I hate playing assassins and have never enjoyed their play styles. It's why I enjoy playing Wukong, cause I'm not playing a squishy champ that blows all his abilities in one move then has to run away, I'm playing a champ who can stay in, take some hits and come out on top through careful planning and strategy. On top of that, Riot has made it clear that they don't want to force the idea of "there's only one way to play a champ" and have been embarrassing more and more the idea of unique builds. What is wrong with Wukong have some of that variety to him if it doesn't take away from what's already there? It should be a win win right?
: >No he's not under performing as of now going by the win rates, but that is within a very narrow scope of time over the past few years he's been left in whatever state he's been in actualy i agree with him underperfoming at high elo (D1+). But for what left his Wr is same roughly same till from low elo (all under diams). > in that time he has GENERALLY stuck to being really good at low elos and poor in higher elos (I know, I've been checking). its been age since he was really good... even at low elo. >If they think he's doing fine in every elo then its most likely they will just push him back to some unforeseeable point cause they can't justify a reason too aside from "making his model look nicer and giving him more VOs and Animations". i disagree. They can do like with irelia > "his theme isn't well retranscribe" or "his pattern isn't healthy and his kit dosn't provide counterplay..."
The thing is with "his theme isn't well retranscribe" or "his pattern isn't healthy and his kit doesn't provide counterplay" is that for everyone that says it doesn't, there's another person that says it does from what I've seen. Now to me his kit doesn't provide counter play for him or his enemy, but another person would say that there is plenty of counterplay and is balanced. At least from my experience. I assume its similar for talk about Wukong in the Riot office, but more civilized since its a work environment.
: What should his passive be? Most of the ideas I've heard in the past (internally and/or externally) usually have some significant downside to it, whether that be: * Expensive to develop * Overly complex and/or significantly altering his playstyle (which his current players likely enjoy) * Needing to sap power out of the current most powerful parts of his kit
I think the most popular/common Passive idea I've seen on the boards is pretty much "Wukong gains x armor and MR from dealing physical damage to an enemy champ or monster up to a max for a few seconds or until he exits combat" or something along those lines. Thoughts?
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=xJmqUBog,comment-id=00030001,timestamp=2018-03-27T20:41:51.095+0000) > > Riot seems to disagree. He's the most talked about champ They didn't even replied to the best writed post https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/6tuzvy/wukong_needs_a_rework_here_is_why/ So u cant blame him for thinking Riot don't care about Wu (mainly when he was untouched since S4 till this patch... and its for a compensation). > for them when it comes to champs who over perform in low elo and tend to generally under perform in high elo, Stop spreading this , without verifiying. Stat wise, he's perform equaly at every elo (except master +). >also stating that they think there is plenty of potential for them to work with as a champ, the main problem is that he's not in the dire kind of need for a rework that many other champs are. If he suddenly dropped to a 40% win rate or something at every elo, he would likely move to the front of the update list in no time. Winrate is irrevelant to Rework.
Argue with meddler about it, not me https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/YdirowFc-quick-gameplay-thoughts-february-16?comment=00190005 That is their official statement as of now on Wukong. If you have an issue with it, take it up with them, not me when all I'm doing is reiterating what Riots last opinion on Wukong was. and no, win rate isn't irrelevant to a rework. It's far from the only thing that matters but if a champ has a low win rate in EVERY elo yet is in a situation where just buffing them will just break them, That means that their kit has a fundamental issue that needs to be addressed that a simple buff or nerf can't take care of. While its not the only thing they look at or the most important, it DOES matter, just like any other stat from a champs performance. and I'm only going to say this once, when they say he doesn't perform well in high elo and over performs in low elo, That is talking about how he has performed in **general** over the years. No he's not under performing as of now going by the win rates, but that is within a very narrow scope of time over the past few years he's been left in whatever state he's been in. in that time he has GENERALLY stuck to being really good at low elos and poor in higher elos (I know, I've been checking). And honestly, I don't know why you are arguing against that. That is pretty much the driving force behind why Riot wants to update Wukong. If they think he's doing fine in every elo then its most likely they will just push him back to some unforeseeable point cause they can't justify a reason too aside from "making his model look nicer and giving him more VOs and Animations".
: Why waste time on Wukong when there are only a handful of us that play him? Hell half the time I see a thread bitching about something relevant to Wu, he isn’t even mentioned. There was a recent thread on invisibility that didn’t even include Wu in the list of champs. Why? Because nobody gives a fuck, the fact that he exists is an afterthought.
Riot seems to disagree. He's the most talked about champ for them when it comes to champs who over perform in low elo and tend to generally under perform in high elo, also stating that they think there is plenty of potential for them to work with as a champ, the main problem is that he's not in the dire kind of need for a rework that many other champs are. If he suddenly dropped to a 40% win rate or something at every elo, he would likely move to the front of the update list in no time. For now he's behind a few VGUs since he's looking at an Aatrox level gameplay update, and the fact that they specifically said a few VGUs and not the entire list speaks volumes. The ACTUAL fact is no, he's not popular here, but he wasn't MADE for the NA market. He was made for the Chinese market, where he is one of the most popular characters and the main reason he was the mascot for last years Worlds and why they even bothered to make a figure for him at all. Just cause he's not popular in one part of the world doesn't mean he isn't popular in others.
Vei (NA)
: Today, we show the art of Booping the Snoot
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: corki definitely needs a gameplay updtade, his kit is so antiquated and bad. Udyrs isnt the most healthy in general since he is either crapdyr or godyr without much inbetweendyr. Gragas doesnt really need any updates.
Corki is a bit iffy seeing as they did update it during the Marksmen update (don't know if Riot think that was enough or not) but could at least use a visual update to make him look more... Yordley, Udyr is one that would be difficult to change gameplay wise since most people wouldn't want to see his kit changed to a large extent, just his Visuals updated and Gragas I think is my better example out of them as your right, he doesn't *really* need any updates, but it wouldn't hurt if he got a new model, some new VO and some new animations. even without the new model it would be nice if he got a VO update with some new animations. Pretty much I'd like to see Rito get to a point where they are just pretty much updating Models to clean up the models to modern standards rather then just cause they look bad and need to look better.
Rioter Comments
Wooosh Re (EUW)
: Personally I want less new champions in 2018-2019 and more VGU's of old ones.
I'm hoping that Riot gets through the desperate cases soon so they can get to the ones that only need either a Gameplay or Visual update, but not both. The faster they get through Champs like {{champion:80}} {{champion:84}} and {{champion:20}}, the sooner we can get champs who "could" use a Visual update like {{champion:42}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:79}}, but not necessarily a Gameplay one.
Vei (NA)
: post pizza in this thread
https://slice.seriouseats.com/images/2012/03/20120329-chain-reaction-papa-johns-buffalo-chicken-zoom.jpg Love me some buffalo pizza X3
: What are the lancer skins exactly? Gods, mechs, stone collussus...sus?
yes .__. Honestly, no clue. Riot doesn't seem to have a solid concept for them other then giant guardian... statue.. things.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9PR5rvw9,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-20T18:45:44.061+0000) > > They could have also given him an Arcade skin. He honestly fits really well with that skin line seeing as there is a Wukong in so many games (or hell, even an ape of some kind in general) and it wouldn't be too hard to make his staff look like a pair of knock off Wii controllers attached to a stick. I would've even settled for a humorous skin "April's fool skins line", he needs something that is not serious you know? But if it was to me? I'd give him a "wanderer/Hermit" type of skin, you know, the older type of wukong who is wise and such, OR maybe Pre-monkey transformation/Human-kong type of skin. There are lots of potential for the champ, but giving him this with a bad recall tells much about what to expect for Wukong in this year.
Lets be honest, if he was going to get an April fools skin, It would be him in a monkey suit .__.
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9PR5rvw9,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-20T16:53:33.316+0000) > > I'm still holding on to the hope that they made a sub-par Ultimate skin cause they are planning to release 2 this year, but that's another story. > > As much as I'd like for Wukong to have another non Journey to the West skin, I do hope the cancel it. If it doesn't come with new animations and VO there is hardly any reason to release this other then "See, we can give Wukong skins that don't tie to Journey to the West". Honestly this skin line is becoming less about "Syfy knights" and more about throwing in less popular champs just to say they got a skin. Could have easily gave Wukong a gymrat skin. His spells kind of figuratively fit the deal anyway; and you can also always pretend Wukong's staff is that stick some gym-goer uses to stretch their upper body after exercise. Though how many people would buy and use it is another question.
They could have also given him an Arcade skin. He honestly fits really well with that skin line seeing as there is a Wukong in so many games (or hell, even an ape of some kind in general) and it wouldn't be too hard to make his staff look like a pair of knock off Wii controllers attached to a stick.
: New Ban: Not using poro biscuits on Howling Abyss
Seriously speaking though, maybe not a ban, but you should get a mark of shame for not using poro snacks. like maybe 3 games without giving a poro snack gives you the poro mark of shame that everyone can see till you start feeding the poros :p
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9PR5rvw9,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-20T16:10:10.370+0000) > > See, I could get behind the "knight" thing, but even then it doesn't excuse a 3rd 1350 RP skin (which is what it is VERY likely to be) that won't likely have any new VO or animations. Why in gods name would they give a champ 3 1350 RP skins? It would have been better for them to just wait for a chance to make a 1820 RP skin and give this skin to someone else who needs it. Hell, if they weren't going to do that, then even him being another voted skin like what Illoai got would have been nice. > > This has been far from what any Wukong fan has been asking for. Tbh, the last couple of years has been mostly about 1350 RP skins, I don't think it will be fair if Wukong for example got a 950 skin which no champ has been getting lately, but I was expecting him to be a primary candidate for the Ultimate skin which was given to another ADC. All they need to do now is just cancel the skin like they did with the "sewn Amumu and Blitz".
I'm still holding on to the hope that they made a sub-par Ultimate skin cause they are planning to release 2 this year, but that's another story. As much as I'd like for Wukong to have another non Journey to the West skin, I do hope the cancel it. If it doesn't come with new animations and VO there is hardly any reason to release this other then "See, we can give Wukong skins that don't tie to Journey to the West". Honestly this skin line is becoming less about "Syfy knights" and more about throwing in less popular champs just to say they got a skin.
wildfox99 (EUW)
: i meant we have to considerer "riot" is not only 1 guy who's working on this game,but differents teams that have to communicate with each others if for **example** someone from the lore team told a programmer to make a new lore website with the current (current at the time they did the new site) interactions and he forgot about this interaction,the programmer will just do it,making lores is not his duty and he doesn't know what the other team is planning,so he doesn't know if this interaction isn't supposed to exist something like that,this kind of mistakes happens plus the new website was made before the vastayas update,so they could have added it according to the old lore and just forgot to remove it
Thats the thing, they updated everything with the Vastaya update. There would have been no reason to NOT remove it if it wasn't going to be used for something when they went back into the universe page to update it. The fact that, like you said, they are not "one guy" means they have a TEAM who is working on this, making the chance for mistakes even less then it would be for one guy. It's not something they would just look over by accident, especially after updating both their pages with a bunch of new lore. In a similar case, WW and Soraka are not on each others pages anymore since Warwick was updated. only one of them was really updated and they even took the time to tweak her lore so Warwick isn't in it and remove the two of them from their related champ pages. In this case both Ahri AND Wukong were getting updated but they kept the relation. The fact is they are very likely to have a plan for it (especially considering it was something that made no real sense in the original lore to begin with and would have made more sense to leave it out like they did with a few different champs). They kept it cause they are likely still looking to do something with that and are planning on keeping it for now so they still have the option available to them if they decide to move forward with it. That's not to say that we will ever see anything come out of it as Riot does change their minds quite often and it is possible they may remove it later, but for now there is zero reason to assume it was only left in due to a mistake, especially when they have been working hard to keep the universe page as up to date as possible unlike the Champion info page.
: > [{quoted}](name=Audhulma,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=9PR5rvw9,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-20T15:31:19.518+0000) > > Cry more? At least you got something relatively decent for your champion, there are lots of other champions who still need skins and aren't getting a thing, or get those shitty worlds skins. I'm gonna keep posting about Wukong's current state and his need for a rework every week my friend, doesn't matter if you or others see it as "crying". and tell me, what's so special about the "lancers" skinline? I'm not a fan of "knights" to begin with, let alone the skin does not even fit the monkey king's theme, but yea lets throw a skin just because we dont feel like being creative for an unpopular champion then call it an "effort"
See, I could get behind the "knight" thing, but even then it doesn't excuse a 3rd 1350 RP skin (which is what it is VERY likely to be) that won't likely have any new VO or animations. Why in gods name would they give a champ 3 1350 RP skins? It would have been better for them to just wait for a chance to make a 1820 RP skin and give this skin to someone else who needs it. Hell, if they weren't going to do that, then even him being another voted skin like what Illoai got would have been nice. This has been far from what any Wukong fan has been asking for.
: Who do you hope's gonna be featured in this April's Roadmap?
{{champion:62}} for the Gameplay update feature. As for VGUs, {{champion:20}}, {{champion:10}} /{{champion:25}} ,{{champion:80}}, {{champion:82}} and {{champion:9}}
wildfox99 (EUW)
: or maybe they just forgot to remove it (probably they did a copy-paste of old interactions)
If they were going to remove it they would have just not added it (it's not exactly a copy-paste sort of situation, trust me, I've done coding for a website before. It is FAR from as easy as copying one thing to another). It wasn't like it was something that existed on the site and they just forgot to remove it when they updated everything. Whats more, Riot has kept other champs updated on their related champs, this isn't something Riot would just accidentally skim over, especially with Ahri being as popular as she is. They have a plan for it (at least for now). If they were to remove it at this point it would be because they scrapped what they had planned.
: New Skins, Lancer Stratus Wukong and Badlands Baron Rumble!
At least its not another Journey to the West reference... but I honestly can not be happy about it cause I feel like that's the same excuse Riot would tell people as to why he didn't get a skin with new Animations and new VO. Seriously, is this REALLY going to be his THIRD 1350 RP skin? It's still early so I'm holding out hope, but I really doubt this will be any better then what he's already gotten.
: What is that unfitting ugly Wukong skin teaser I just saw..
Not likely to have any major visuals if the other Lancer skins are anything to go by....
wildfox99 (EUW)
: >He literally just showed up in the "related" box for almost no reason and does nothing to contribute to that supposed relationship. according to the old LOL lore,where summoners actually existed and champions meet each others in the summoner rift,both ahri and wukong were animals who wanted to be like humans so they had this affinity,but nothing else (still according to the old lore) but idk why they kept this interaction in her new lore even though she never meet him
They are still both in Ionia, we literally will have to see what Riot does with it cause they are at least still listed as related champs in the new page.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=ERaBKAwu,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-03-19T20:43:54.089+0000) > > https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/raining_david_tennant_nosedrip.gif Blue moon wolf, more like bad wolf
https://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/09/see_what_you_did_there_doctor_who.gif
: Riot image leak, reveals when wukong update is going to happen
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Eedat (NA)
: Is Wukong the oldest champ that has no kit changes?
Pretty much at this point he is. He's gone the longest without any stand alone changes at the very least. This Buff he's getting on his Q is the first real solo base game (so not counting TT only changes) change his kit has gotten for YEARS. I think {{champion:24}} is close behind him, but I do believe he got something between Wukong's last update and now. {{champion:30}} I count as being updated (even if his kit leaves much to be desired). While his kit didn't change too much, he still got a VGU and I have no doubt he's gotten quite a few number changes within the past few years as well. Between those two things, He's seen more work then Wukong has by far. But at the very least he's not FAR of Riots Radar. He's apparently talked about quite often as a champ that's too good in low elo and not good enough in high elo. I feel like he could see an update before the year is out, if not then at the very least announced for next year.
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