: if you only could use 6 champions
{{champion:62}} {{champion:150}} {{champion:432}} {{champion:103}} {{champion:111}} {{champion:39}} at least at the time of writing this, anything past my first 2 kind of bounce around in terms of "what I like to play" for me, though I will say I'd find it hard to know a world where I know of Bard but can't play him .__.
saltran (EUW)
: He needs a bigger rework than Ezreal imo
Riot won't give him one. They made it clear he'll be lucky to even get a Passive rework at this point. besides that, he'd end up having to wait behind champs like {{champion:36}} and {{champion:82}} who are in a larger need of a VU, making him have to wait till mid 2020 at best. If they could fit him into a small VGU so he doesn't have to be put to the back of the line then I'm all for it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=3G1b1LLG,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2018-10-14T14:52:57.935+0000) > > be happy you at least have 2 other emotes to use. {{champion:62}} players were forced to either buy an entire bundle pack just for the one emote or go without. Meanwhile I believe {{champion:81}} and {{champion:222}} are both sitting at 6 now give or take. I get your point, but at least you could drop money for your emote. I was forced to follow dozens of people I otherwise do not care about in the slightest on Twitter just for a *chance* at an emote for my champion. Meanwhile Jinx players could go in and buy their 6th emote in the store
Yea, Drop more money then it's worth just to get that one emote in addition to several others I didn't want ( believe it cost about as much as an epic or legendary skin iirc, sadly can't find the exact prices anywhere). All I'm saying is be happy you at least have other emotes to play with. There is a reason Riot hasn't done the bundle crap with any other emotes yet. Yes, it sucks they restricted it and like the bundle situation, will likely cause Riot to not try to do it again seeing how much backlash it caused. The difference is that you still have 2 others that you can get at any time on there own. the Wukong one won't be available again till next Chinese new years and very likely will be kept as a bundle exclusive cause they won't have any reason to change it. "Still don't want to pay the outrageous price just for the Wukong emote? well guess your out of luck." In the end, Riot really needs to figure out what they are doing with these things. I know they want to do these "exclusives" for people, but this isn't the way to do it. Restricted emotes should go to champs like {{champion:222}} who have way more then they should, not champs with hardly any. Which for this situation would have worked seeing as She also got a skin for the event, along with an emote I believe. That one could have easily been the content creator emote over the sona one.
: Riot listed the following champion for Mini VGU Which ones do you want to see the most?
: Hopes For Season 9?
{{champion:62}} update. I don't care what, it can just be a new passive for all I care at this point, just do SOMETHING with him.
: Sonna Odyssey Emote is locked for players.
be happy you at least have 2 other emotes to use. {{champion:62}} players were forced to either buy an entire bundle pack just for the one emote or go without. Meanwhile I believe {{champion:81}} and {{champion:222}} are both sitting at 6 now give or take.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kQjwEpWE,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2018-10-12T22:40:17.090+0000) > > They are indeed. Like little razor blades. Still, at least it understood that I was trying to help pretty quickly. Otherwise it would have been a lot worse :p It made me think that there is a way to safely pick up snapping turtles, and made me think that there must b ea way for soft shells. i found this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bX0xCtWi3Sg seems legit.
Dang, that would have been handy to have known before hand XD Luckily it was really close to a big pond with a very short stream. It was by my college where there's a pond, two one lane roads and the city rec center on the other side of the road. The most likely scenario from what I could gather was that it crossed the road to the rec center, got stuck since there is a concrete divider between the rec center (guessing it crossed using the road or the cross walk) and the road, then was drying up trying to get over or around the divider and back across the road to get to the pond.
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kQjwEpWE,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2018-10-12T22:24:58.007+0000) > > I saved a softshell turtle from drying up on the side of the road. He thanked me by carving up my hands like a thanksgiving turkey before calming down when he realized I was helping .__. Turtle Talons are vicious.
They are indeed. Like little razor blades. Still, at least it understood that I was trying to help pretty quickly. Otherwise it would have been a lot worse :p
Bazerka (NA)
: Hows everyone's Friday?
I saved a softshell turtle from drying up on the side of the road. He thanked me by carving up my hands like a thanksgiving turkey before calming down when he realized I was helping .__.
Meddler (NA)
: Theme and gameplay are distinct, though also quite niche in their appeal. Wouldn't look to substantially change either though. Counterplay can be a bit limited at times, but not critically so. Visually he holds up ok. Showing his age a bit, pardon the phrase, but not to the same degree as other older champs. Wouldn't prioritize any major work for him as a result.
would that make him a candidate for a Small scale VGU like {{champion:81}} or is he just completely off the grid for an update?
: 1350RP Skins are listed as epic tier skins
: Legendary? what are you blabbering on about?
ah, probably the wrong name for the 1350 RP skins then.
: We Honor the Champs that Died in 2018
What about those who *just* missed out on worlds due to getting hard nerfed in an invitational?
: Chromas could be something nice to add to Wukong while hes in line for a rework. I don't know how easy it will be to add chromas to seasonal skins though..
That one specifically shouldn't be too hard. Riot has some on the way for the new Halloween skins and It's an older Legendary skin, so it lacks the Homeguard animation and is fairly simple. Granted I don't really know how much work goes into a chroma vs a skin and don't even know how long it takes for a chroma to come out (for all I know they have to have been made pre-PBE patch for it to get shipped in that patch). Just figured it wouldn't hurt asking .__.
Rioter Comments
Done25 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=GE9vAZgR,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2018-10-02T00:16:51.354+0000) > > They're pretty much the class that does something weird that isn't easily put into a class. like {{champion:27}} who's too squishy to be a tank, doesn't really behave like any of the mage classes in the game and doesn't really build like anyone, he just sort of has a thing and it works (depending on who you ask). The class doesn't really have one thing they do specifically and is pretty much just the "other" pile Riot has when they don't know where to put a champ. so in a way the "specialize" in their own unique play style. Singed is absolutely a Tank. A Vanguard to be precise. His entire kit revolves around running up into the middle of the enemy team to disrupt them with poison zones and flinging them into his puddles of glue.
Riot categorizes him as unique. I think the issue is that he's supposed to be a damage dealer, but he deals damage by slowly melting an enemy to death. But either way he does have a very unique play style. I mean, how many champs farm behind tower one of their most effective ways to play?
: Clothesline Karma Mini-Retrospective
I'll be honest, this is a really cool concept and I'm not even a big fan of Karma. would be cool to see this idea looked at for Wukong's decoy, it kind of looks like it has potential for how to improve his decoy in some way.
: Specialist is terribly named. Not sure if it was you or Riot who did it, but Specialist would denote an area of expertise, a category they excel in. What you're talking about is a Jack of all Trades or a Generalist.
They're pretty much the class that does something weird that isn't easily put into a class. like {{champion:27}} who's too squishy to be a tank, doesn't really behave like any of the mage classes in the game and doesn't really build like anyone, he just sort of has a thing and it works (depending on who you ask). The class doesn't really have one thing they do specifically and is pretty much just the "other" pile Riot has when they don't know where to put a champ. so in a way the "specialize" in their own unique play style.
: Literally who is saying that he's brainless and strong.
You would be shocked how many posts I've seen say that, even post nerf when his win rate dropped ._.
: Graves is tankier than Wukong tbh
http://orig13.deviantart.net/da44/f/2013/016/8/5/uh_meme_by_gumwolf-d5rpqr0.png The moment you realize an ADC is tankier then your main who's supposed to be a bruiser ._. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/333012091051180033/495833187914874880/the-realization-of-truth_o_1135446.jpg
Sukishoo (NA)
: Oh that, he said "could be" unlike when talked about the other 3 as ones they were actually looking at.
At the time he wrote this they didn't even know if they WOULD be doing more, and quite frankly even if they do those champs then put Wukong on the list, that would be FAR sooner then when he'd would be worked on for the current small gameplay update list which currently has 10-12 champs on it in a random order, which he may have even been taken off the list for. I'll take a "could" over nothing any day thank you. And besides that you're missing the point. I'm not trying to say any specific order. I don't know nor care what the order is right now that's an issue for after they make their final decision on weather to keep doing the small scale reworks (just in case, {{champion:25}} doesn't count. That was always going to be a duo update with {{champion:10}}). The point is that ANY champ that could use a Visual update and a few minor gameplay problems needing to be addressed can be on this list. It's an opportunity to finally get work done on champs that could use work but would be waiting another 2-3 years for that work at the rate things are going. We are finally reaching a point where those champs we look at and go "mmmm, yea I guess they could use *something* done, but not before {{champion:82}} or {{champion:80}}" Are able to get work done. On top of that just think about how quickly they managed to announce the Ez VGU and reveal it for the next patch. That was extremely fast. Fast enough that I think they could easily fit 3+ champs in a single year. No reason to say that anyone who "could" be an option now won't be put on the list and maybe even updated later. It's new and exiting ground and the end next year is still a long ways away. Never know if they may scrap the small scale reworks, end up changing the list, adding to it, or even do something like add a new team that will also do small scale reworks, giving us 2 small VGU teams instead of the 1.
Sukishoo (NA)
: He didn't say {{champion:62}} was one. {{champion:53}} {{champion:24}} {{champion:85}} were mentioned
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/38E5AMu9-quick-gameplay-thoughts-august-29?comment=00240000 >Ezreal is obviously a Champion that also bucks this trend, and if Ezreal goes really well and smaller VgUs are something we do more often in the future, Wukong could be a good candidate for something like that as well.
David 777 (EUW)
: > [{quoted}](name=Blue Moon Wolf,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=IVu51E9P,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-09-29T00:23:40.299+0000) > > Do think the name needs to change on the passive. his staff isn't really ancient in the lore and (until informed otherwise by new lore) It was made by Doran, being hailed as his "greatest creation". Though seeing as {{champion:3}} is now one of his creations, I'd have to assume it's been downgraded to "the greatest weapon he's ever created". Also I don't think it would be worth having it deal magic damage, even if it scaled. Wukong currently does not build anything with AP and is really a problem with how his current W is set up, even to the point Rioters would like to change how the damage works for that ability. > > As for his W it wouldn't be so bad if his current passive was a secondary passive, but even the current version is really rough around the edges. The idea of "gaining armor and mr for each near by enemy" is restricting as it requires a full enemy team to get the full effect from it, which will require your entire team as well so you don't get blown up with the entire enemy team focusing on you. It's why I think {{champion:39}}'s old passive got reworked to only stack for 3 enemies and why {{item:3193}} gets it's max bonus for 3+ enemies. having to wait for the enemy team to group up is something that is very uncontrollable for you and forces you to have to wait for a full team fight. Rather, it would be best to go the way of {{item:3193}} and having it max at 3 enemies. That way the bottom amount can be a tad higher helping out for 1v1 a bit more and make him a bit more resistant against ganks without giving him more power in a full 5v5 team fight then he already has. > > Overall I do think these are some good ideas, the Q would be nice as something other then an empowered AA and the new passive does make use of the whole "extending staff" idea more then his current kit does. Galio was created by Durand the sculptor, not by Doran the craftsman. Also, Doran would not create a new masterpiece, as he's now incapable of properly crafting anything complex. [Doran - LoL wikia](https://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Doran)
Oh really? well that's good to know. Their names are so similar I must have confused them XD Good to know that his staff can still be known as Doran's greatest creation, That was one of the cooler parts of his lore IMO.
: Am I the only one feeling like ARAM is totally rigged ?
Tbf, I'm feeling it's a lot less rigged then it was before when you couldn't trade your champ for one in a "re-rolled pool" and they added champs from the past 3 free rotations, though sometimes it still feels like the other team gets the far better comp way too often to be just "random chance". Idk, at this point I try not to think about it cause I kind of feel like it's just me being paranoid, though I wouldn't go so far as to say that kind of thinking is wrong. Honestly I still think the problem would be solved if they just let you use every champ in the mode, but it is what it is till they do that.
BuddyRoo (NA)
: My take on a Wukong update
Do think the name needs to change on the passive. his staff isn't really ancient in the lore and (until informed otherwise by new lore) It was made by Doran, being hailed as his "greatest creation". Though seeing as {{champion:3}} is now one of his creations, I'd have to assume it's been downgraded to "the greatest weapon he's ever created". Also I don't think it would be worth having it deal magic damage, even if it scaled. Wukong currently does not build anything with AP and is really a problem with how his current W is set up, even to the point Rioters would like to change how the damage works for that ability. As for his W it wouldn't be so bad if his current passive was a secondary passive, but even the current version is really rough around the edges. The idea of "gaining armor and mr for each near by enemy" is restricting as it requires a full enemy team to get the full effect from it, which will require your entire team as well so you don't get blown up with the entire enemy team focusing on you. It's why I think {{champion:39}}'s old passive got reworked to only stack for 3 enemies and why {{item:3193}} gets it's max bonus for 3+ enemies. having to wait for the enemy team to group up is something that is very uncontrollable for you and forces you to have to wait for a full team fight. Rather, it would be best to go the way of {{item:3193}} and having it max at 3 enemies. That way the bottom amount can be a tad higher helping out for 1v1 a bit more and make him a bit more resistant against ganks without giving him more power in a full 5v5 team fight then he already has. Overall I do think these are some good ideas, the Q would be nice as something other then an empowered AA and the new passive does make use of the whole "extending staff" idea more then his current kit does.
Anìmê (NA)
: Items That Actually Need Reworks
At this point I feel like it will be the end of the world if {{item:3056}} actually got work done.
: Seriously, Riot we need more Ezreal tier VGUs.
Reav3 Said that if the Ez rework goes well they will be doing more, mentioning likely candidates like {{champion:24}}, {{champion:62}}, pretty much any champ who could use some visual work and maybe a reworked ability or two could be up for one. We just have to hope the Ez rework goes well so they will move forward with them. If it doesn't then we can forget these champs getting any work done in the near future. But if these do go well, think of any champ who could use a visual update and only minor to no work done on their kit and they could be a prime candidate. Even {{champion:103}} could get work done with an update like this, fixing her tails and maybe changing her W (as I believe that's something her mains would like to see from the ones I've talked to). What's more is these updates take far less work then a Large scale VGU, so we could see these kinds of reworks coming at a faster rate then it would take one team to get an update out normally. TL;DR- hope the Ez update turns out well, he's the guinea pig that could open a lot of doors for many champs :p
: Gaming mentality is a weird thing.
I know Kingdom Hearts fans from looking at the Reddit boards have been pretty friendly and un-salty. Don't know if it's a statement on Online games vs Single player games but I honestly think that has been the friendliest community I've ever seen for a game up till now. Then again it may be partly due to the franchise drilling the idea of "the power of friendship" into the players heads for years. But whatever it is it's honestly really refreshing when you compare to the LoL community. I believe another good community is Warframe, but that's more from what I've been told and how the Dev-streams feel. It kind of feels like LoL when it was just starting out.
Hayaishi (NA)
: K6 is also meant to be an assassin Wukong isn't.
True, but currently he can't function outside of playing like an Assassin. It's the same reason why Tank Assassins were a thing before the Assassin update. I'm all for them making him work more like a Bruiser as that's my favorite way to play him (/only way I play him tbh... I don't like playing assassins ._.), but that needs to come from an update to his kit, not through nerfs and buffs.
: I like how kha zix gets buffed and wukong nerfed.
They mentioned the buff was due to Kha being right on the edge of being viable for worlds. Pretty much the Rioter mentioned that champs get buffs for worlds if they are either almost viable for worlds or if the pros have been skirmishing them but are not quite on the level needed to be playable there. He also mentioned that those buffs can get reverted easily if they cause a problem afterwards. Though why they nerfed Wukong when he was likely going to show up in worlds this year... I know he was doing overly well, but it would have been cool to see happen at least once T.T
: As far as I understood, he had the idea and then went back on it when he realized how strong it would be for jungling if it scaled with AD.
He didn't say that was the case. It actually sounded like something he thought of it while he was talking. In fact they said they WOULD like to make it more punishing in some way as it's not really that big of a punishment with the damage it deals currently, either to add a debuff to when you get hit by it (slow, armor reduction, etc.) , making AD so the damage can scale with your items or something along those lines. All those ideas got shelved for the time being but he said they'd likely revisit them at some point. Though he also said that they thought of an idea that made the decoy mirror your movements, which kind of was a bit iffy.
: Favorite Classic Champion Splash Art?
https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/4/48/Wukong_OriginalSkin.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20170621022248 It captures what worked with the old splash and gave it new life. On top of that, this was a great example of a time Riot listened to what we were saying and made adjustments based on what people were asking for and in fact did an even better job then what people were asking for.
Løban (EUW)
: Wukong Concept from Loban
I agree with the AP scaling and apparently Riot Maple said that it's not that crazy of an idea to have it scale with AD as that was one idea they had to make his decoy more punishing. would be neat to see a bit more to the decoy, something like multi-decoys or something, but if it's just changing the damage and making the animation look more like pressing S, then I think that would be enough. No need to fix what isn't broken and all that.
SatomiKun (EUW)
: Yeah, Udyr is pretty bad (good thing I got Spirit Guardian Udyr from a hextech chest). But I still think there is one champion even worse than him. https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/6/6b/Dr._Mundo_Render.png/revision/latest?cb=20150720023350 Try to explain someone that this is the model of a champion in one of the most successful games of all times and not from a game adaption of a weird low budget comic. :^)
To be fair, he's a very likely candidate for a VGU next year apparently. So we may not have that eye sore for *too* much longer.
: Reminder that it will be 2019 and this 3d model will exist in one of the biggest games ever made
That's one of the things I'm not liking about the game anymore. I love that everything is getting updated and I know they are updating as fast as possible, but the gap between the oldest stuff and the newest stuff keeps getting bigger and bigger as things update. We still have models like {{champion:82}} {{champion:77}} {{champion:32}} and {{champion:36}} even when we have champs like {{champion:84}} and {{champion:20}} who's models are really nice looking to the point Riot can even put the models in good looking videos. I realize there's only so much that can be updated at a time but it's still such a slow process and feels bad when still about 15+ champs have crap models and at least half are in need of some kind of an update (weather VO, VU, GP or a combination of the three), while we keep getting new champs that feel like they are just getting added in order to go "look at these cool champs, don't look at the crap ones we haven't bothered with in ages". I don't know how other games get past this age gap issue in game, then again I don't think most other games that could get this problem are even old enough for this to happen to them yet (Dota maybe, but decided to make Dota 2 which kind of fixes that problem I guess), But I really wish it wasn't the case for League.
: "Practice tool" has too many restrictions and it makes it nearly useless
I'm happy it was added at the very least but yea, it REALLY needs more work put into it. It could be a great tool for putting together new builds, coming up with ideas to work around counters and really test out some things that you couldn't really do in the middle of a match, but is falling short seeing as the bot can't even reach full build before the timer runs out.... Features I'd like to see: - give AI gold/XP (like the one we have for ourselves. let the bot start with a handicap and let us practice in a losing lane scenario) - smaller amount of bonus gold option (like 500 give or take. enough to get you to that next item but not enough to buy 3 fully built items in one go) - Dummy armor/mr control (I want to see exactly how much my armor/mr pen is getting me over flat damage) - Ally AI (Would be helpful to practice support. if we can't have a buddy practice with us, at least let us add an ally bot to let us simulate playing support easier) - AI Lane select. Top/Mid/Bot/Random (Bot always goes bot lane. This would let us practice any lane or even against roaming) - Instant item stack ( Item's like {{item:3027}} {{item:3042}} {{item:3401}} taking too long to stack? bamn, instantly maxed out and ready to be used at it's full power)
: Well, I didn't consider the possibility that bundle emotes wouldn't be available alone. That's kind new territory, I suppose.
Yea, I think Riot is trying not to do it again seeing as it was poorly received, but its likely they are just going to keep that one as a bundle exclusive seeing as Wukong is one of those champs that are "popular enough" in some circles yet not popular to the point that a lot of people will get upset about missing out on his emote.
: At least you could BUY it.
https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-LkaxatzTSSM/WlUlUbUzZEI/AAAAAAAA2bw/_p2koy0pZ_Ii5Sduu-2odgWRh116S0xwwCLcBGAs/s1600/4b10f5d5e2080223.png https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/leagueoflegends/images/8/8f/Yikes_Emote.png/revision/latest?cb=20180601212733 You got 2 and this 3rd one which Riot hasn't said anything about yet. Wukong only has the one.
: Even though his emote is legacy, it's in circulation because it's still available through Hextech chests (I got Heeeere's Poppy after it was vaulted) and it will return next year with the other Lunar Revel stuff. This Sona emote, to our knowledge at this moment, is not going to be available except at the whims of some streamer.
To my knowledge it's not available (could be wrong, but then again I haven't gotten it from a hextech chest so I wouldn't know) and yes it will likely be available again next year but there is hardly any reason to expect it to be outside of the bundle. As for the Sona one I hardly think they won't release it, Not with THAT much backlash. but either way, Sona still at least has a base one that you can get at any time from the store and a valentines day one. Wukong has the one and likely won't get any more cause he's pretty much irreverent outside of the Chinese new year.
: So why is Sona's Odyssey Emote the one you locked away?
Welcome to the issue {{champion:62}} mains had this year with HIS emote. Just be happy you at least have a base skin emote, we don't even have that. Either we got the bundle from the Lunar Revel event or we get nothing...
Beedle (NA)
: Idk why you act like it's surprising and unnecessary for it to be champ restricted. Did you not read any of the lore for the new event skins? It's awesome. Sorry you're such a debby downer. It must suck to not be able to enjoy nice things.
oh no, if you want to enjoy it then by all means enjoy it, more power to you. It's a random game mode. They are not all made for everyone (Just cause one person likes All for one doesn't mean everyone will) and this one just isn't made for me. It's Riots decision to do that and while I don't agree with it, it doesn't mean that they need to listen to me just cause my opinion is different. It's not like I can't just enjoy another mode during the event. So by all means have fun with it, I just will be doing something else during it.
Moody P (NA)
: you can't ask for a diverse meta if you also want surprise champs immediately nerfed
Wukong get's picked 2 times in pro play for once in years, instantly gets nerfed to the ground then put back into his old spot win rate wise. Not saying they weren't needed, but it still would have been cool to see Wukong make it to worlds before getting nerfed. Or even better, could just work a kit change.
: People are never happy are they? Geez....
I'd be happy if I could play a champ I want to play in these modes instead of just the "thematically fitting" ones like with Overwatch events. you realize they have the two versions? one where it's story based and one that you can pick anyone for? It works fine like that and there isn't an issue of being forced to play heroes because "they fit". Honestly I don't get why people are HAPPY with every other new random mode being champ specific. There's like half the roster that hasn't ever been in one of these game modes cause of these things...
: I feel ya, man. Though, it kinda makes sense when your siblings are at least 8 years older than you.
My 2 of my sisters and my brother are pretty old (one of which has a son almost my age... already married ;-;) but my one sister is 2 years older and she's got 2 with a girl on the way.
: Odyssey: Extraction
"oh boy this looks fun" *see's it's restricted champs AGAIN* "Whelp, guess this is going to be another event I skip" {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
Rioter Comments
Trislord (NA)
: We don't need a league movie, we need story shorts
All I want is the story of how {{champion:62}} and {{champion:103}} know each other. Wukong needs more then pranks and {{champion:11}} in his life and Ahri... honestly could REALLY use a friend after all that crap she went through... those feels man. {{sticker:zombie-nunu-tears}} Also a side note I'd really like to know more about that garden {{champion:103}} went to, seems like a weird thing and I really have this feeling that {{champion:143}} is involved with that place in some way. Could be a neat rivalry for them if that turned out to be the case.
: I mean, for what it's worth, I like the skin, despite its flaws.
Yea like I said, Lancer isn't bad either and some of it's problems are mostly due to Wukong's model not having a lot to work with to begin with (not much animation or special effects in his kit, makes it hard to get creative with him), but to me I don't think there's anything wrong with being happy they did something different yet still feel disappointed with the results. Despite everything, it's still a pretty unique design for {{champion:37}} and from what I saw the effects look pretty good, especially the Q. I still got Lancer despite it's flaws. As long as it's something that shows Riot is putting in some effort, it's worth getting to show that you at least appreciate the effort they gave. Though it would have been nice if they decided to start giving every new skin chromas **before** Lancer came out, but that's neither here nor there >.>
: As a Sona Main, this is not the skin I wanted
Now you know how {{champion:62}} mains felt about Lancer. Most of us didn't want Lancer nor ever thought he would work well in that line. We wanted something like Battlecast, Mecha or Program (I got even more exited about Battlecast when they added the resistance to the skin line seeing as having a partly robotic Wukong would be pretty cool). It's not his worst skin design wise as it does try to do some different stuff with his animations and aa sounds (though it does sound a bit jarring, like your hitting the enemy with something made of glass), but it was FAR from the skin we wanted. But I suppose part of the point of skins isn't to just "give us what we want", but to try to give us stuff Riot thinks we didn't realize we wanted. Sometimes it works out well, sometimes it doesn't. All we can hope for is that Riot will eventually do what they did for {{champion:122}} and {{champion:80}} and release the skins we've been hoping for the next time. Personally I've been dying to see Wukong get an Arcade skin for ages, but now that dream will have to wait another 2 years when he'll be up for a skin again.
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: Why does it feel like all Jinx skins are the same?
{{champion:62}} 4 of his skins are Journey to the West references, one of which is LITERALLY Sun Wukong ripped from Journey to the West. The other two being "Wukong if he was a goul" and "Wukong, but a robot". {{champion:222}} has a Chinese dress skin that fires fireworks, Mafia skin that fires a wine bottle, Star Guardian skin with two pets that turn into guns, a weird Zombie apocalypse skin with junkyard weaponry and now a space skin with a robotic arm. Say what you will, her's are FAR more varying then other champs. Hell {{champion:10}} currently has 2 pallet swaps and a skin that is LITERALLY her without her helmet, then what is essentially a silver version of her without that helmet. I do not see any way her skins are the same at all...
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