: Join Us Oct. 15th to Celebrate 10 Years of League
The new logo looks uninspired, mundane and unoriginal. It lacks the heart and character of the original - ironically, like many of the reworked champions. Congratulations Riot for being consistent - at least in this way. Now can we get back to having a client that works, a game that doesn't crash and some thought put into the balance of the game?
matemar (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueBilberry,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kH34FHlI,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:49:19.811+0000) > > Ah, but which champion has been waiting longer for a skin? > > {{champion:26}} <=>{{champion:516}} {{champion:101}} cough cough
> [{quoted}](name=matemar,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kH34FHlI,comment-id=0007000000000002,timestamp=2019-08-26T17:04:52.430+0000) > > {{champion:101}} > > cough cough I'll give you that one. Both {{champion:26}} and{{champion:101}} have been waiting for 4 years. But Xerath nudges out Zilean for longest wait by 12 days. (Incidentally Skarner has been waiting just as long as Xerath.) {{champion:72}}
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueBilberry,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kH34FHlI,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-08-25T04:27:07.634+0000) > > Skins, eh? I knew you would say that. > {{champion:26}} That's not Ornn.
> [{quoted}](name=Sõsuke Aizen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=kH34FHlI,comment-id=00070000,timestamp=2019-08-25T21:03:05.373+0000) > > That's not Ornn. Ah, but which champion has been waiting longer for a skin? {{champion:26}} <=>{{champion:516}}
: Still no Minion based champion?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LdPQeI_TJVk
: Ahri if she goes more than a month without a new skin
Skins, eh? I knew you would say that. {{champion:26}}
Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: August 23
The suggestions to Edge of Night remind me a bit of the changes to Wit's End - where the law of unintended consequences reared its ugly head. (Remember how Wit's End went from a useful item on Kayle, Bard and Kogmaw. Now Wits End is being built on bruisers and the old users on the item had nothing to fill in the gap.) Here, the possible consequences I am thinking of might be a strong negative for mages (yet another nail in the coffin for us mage players this season). Unless you are considering nixing Maw or Mercurial Scimitar, then us mage players might just as well throw in the towel. (It's almost as if assassins need one more thing that denies counterplay against them... :( ) Stop sharpening those scissors and give paper and rock some love.
Bazerka (NA)
: Need 3 more for Clash!
Why didn't this go in the Clash forum, Mr. Rioter?
: We need 2 players for clash
Try posting this in the Clash forum. You might get more interest there.
nolgatha (NA)
: NEED AN ADC, TOP, AND JG FOR CLASH GOLD+ PREF NOT REQUIRED
Try posting this in the Clash forum. You might get more bites there.
: Today has been the worst day for me by far I am so tilted lmao
2 games lost in a row and usually I walk away from League for a while. (That being said, I kept trying to play being constantly hammered by Riot's Critical Error bug for 4 days and didn't realize that it was hurting my MMR - and I went from losing promos into Silver playing against Silver 1s to suddenly finding myself 2 weeks later facing Bronzes.)
: Need a mid laner for clash
Try posting in the Clash forum.
: League's biggest problem is the fact that my performance usually means nothing in a game.
Yup - well currently League is a team game with 4 to 5 players in denial about that fact. Moreover, the game has been so skewed in its balance that one player blowing lane early on (2 to 3 deaths) is now enough to cost the entire team the win.
: General Discussion should be renamed....
Still waiting for the Clash bugs and complaints to be posted....I guess those posting the LFT posts have not seen the Clash forum yet.
: Focus on what you like and let player skill do the rest is the real answer. There are at least master level players on every champ in the game. Once you get there, you should have it figured out anyway.
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UP0IxEE6,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-24T19:41:24.716+0000) > > Focus on what you like and let player skill do the rest is the real answer. There are at least master level players on every champ in the game. Once you get there, you should have it figured out anyway. That was not what I was asking. I was looking at a statistical exercise at trying to factor out the best solo champs from the Riot data (as a means of excluding the duo queue data) - not asking for advice on which champion to play. Thanks for the advice though - I am sure someone will find it useful.
: If you updated his op.gg you'd see he is lvl 30
> [{quoted}](name=Feed Then Proxy,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=7NfokJqg,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-24T13:50:02.441+0000) > > If you updated his op.gg you'd see he is lvl 30 Actually, I had a level 7 in one of my ranked games a while back. (And yes the level was on his profile and that was also confirmed in op.gg after updating his profile.) So, I believe the poster.
: What do you even mean by best? eazy to kill ? or more joy to compete with?
> [{quoted}](name=GayrensTari,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=UP0IxEE6,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-24T16:42:26.330+0000) > > What do you even mean by best? eazy to kill ? or more joy to compete with? Simply performance/winrate. Even those sources that quote the champions best to climb or champions that have the best winrate rely upon data that is muddled by players which duo with a buddy. (You can see evidence of this sloppy data use when you start cross-factoring champion synergies.) For example, if you pick the usual champions that known sources site as good champions to climb with - e.g., some support champions such as Pyke, Thresh, Alistar -- and you apply multiple regression analysis on those same champs, then you see that the suggestions/recommendations (the experts are giving) are not quite as clear as you might think.
Rioter Comments
Orphand (NA)
: agreed. shouldn't they want this for logging purposes??? How do we know if the notes are live or not?!?
Similar story for other things on the news forums. Try finding out which champions are purchasable. Sometimes you are thinking that things which are 2 years old are coming out this week.
: Esport rewards bug
Still waiting for my Braum Chroma here.
: Bugs of Legends
League of Bugs. {{champion:121}}
: client is fine
How about: get the client working and put Clash aside until we know that the Client actually is stable?
rockyfox (EUNE)
: Client Bugsplat and other minor Bugs
This is part of the Critical Error bug - ruined a week of ranked for me. Sympathies. (The problem is happening for us WIndows 10 users too.)
Kiisharu (NA)
: I got an S but No chest??
If you didn't queue with a teammate, then you are basically held hostage by the algorithm that gives out chests. It's determined via random number generator with the threshold being adjusted over time.
: Your client lost me all runes.
I am finding that my runes are getting marked in the secondary tree with red exclamation marks every now and again. Kind of annoying.
: Any word on the Critical Error bug yet?
You didn't read - and just assumed. Yes, I created a ticket (many!). Yes, I filled in dozens of bug reports. Yes, there is even a mega-thread on the topic - which I alluded to in the original post. Further, I have built my own computer. I have repeatedly installed my own copy of Windows over the years. But I needed a second opinion on another issue - enough said. (Geez, I am getting so tired of people who want to appear superior to others in the forums.) BUT, we still have not had any word from the devs on the progress related to the bug - in patch notes, on the forums, on Reddit (where the critical error bug has been mentioned in a few threads). And so on.
: i got five minute ban
The 5 minute leaverbuster is not too serious. I wouldn't fret about it. It's when you get nailed for 2 of them in a row on the same day that you actually have to worry - that's where you start losing LP for the "dodge".
: Game stops after champ select (please read/help)
This is part and parcel of the Critical Error bug that has been plaguing the client for about 3 patches now. There is a megathread on this issue.
: Windows10 sleep mode keeps a .exe open that prevents the client from being reopened.
Vhan8765 (NA)
: 10+ years of production, 3 different clients, and yet I can still load into a ranked game for these kind of things to happen. But hey guys, we got 3 new series of Little Legends. https://drive.google.com/open?id=1thQQNT400IDfX7dZnb9ozD_wUKIWjkNT I lost the Rotating Game Mode queue for this? {{sticker:sg-poppy}}
> [{quoted}](name=Vhan8765,realm=NA,application-id=LqLKtMpN,discussion-id=u28PhgrF,comment-id=0056,timestamp=2019-08-16T17:03:15.965+0000) > > 10+ years of production, 3 different clients, and yet I can still load into a ranked game for these kind of things to happen. > But hey guys, we got 3 new series of Little Legends. > > https://drive.google.com/open?id=1thQQNT400IDfX7dZnb9ozD_wUKIWjkNT > > I lost the Rotating Game Mode queue for this? > {{sticker:sg-poppy}} I've sent in 4 dumps so far. And I got nailed again today (fresh computer, updated hardware). And still no word from the devs. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
Rioter Comments
: FAQ: Eternals
I suggested something like this in the forums a while back. The idea is sound in that it gives players something to work towards - even the one trick ponies. Ideally, it should have been something like we see in Trophy Hunter or similar apps. But kudos to the Riot devs for giving the idea a shot.
: He's only weak if you can't play him. He's like S++++ tier if you can play him to his fullest (or almost) fullest potential.
> [{quoted}](name=Get Ogre Here,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=wN6E68vG,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-11T18:45:40.260+0000) > > He's only weak if you can't play him. He's like S++++ tier if you can play him to his fullest (or almost) fullest potential. And might we add - there are a lot of players out there who don't know how to play him. He is still quite playable if you actually know how to use him. He has traditionally been one of the high skill cap champs - sadly this season too many of the high skill cap, snowball-dependent champs were dumbed down (e.g., Riven, Kayn, Darius, Vayne, etc.). See: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziY3NnVaiNI
Kraungard (EUNE)
: Guys don't worry about Pyke
> [{quoted}](name=Hijackd,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Up7PAAun,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-08-11T19:03:48.800+0000) > > They're gonna nerf him soon give 'em some time, they just didn't milk enough PROJECT $$$ yet. > {{sticker:slayer-jinx-wink}} Judging by how much extra advertising I have seen lately for the Project event, the Project project is not proving to be a money spinner. So perhaps it the nerf could come sooner than later.
asamu (NA)
: > I propose that mmr be based off of in game stats like k/p, objective control, csing, etc. rather than have yourself marked as a "bad player" because your team didn't perform. The problem is they can't. It's just too hard to accurately account for everything. Things like map movement and when rotations happen have way more impact on when and how players die than you might realize, and that's not something you can track in the numbers.
> [{quoted}](name=asamu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=Y0uyOPpx,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T00:20:54.503+0000) > > The problem is they can't. It's just too hard to accurately account for everything. Things like map movement and when rotations happen have way more impact on when and how players die than you might realize, and that's not something you can track in the numbers. Actually, on reflection, it could be possible to adjust MMR retroactively to account for trolls, inters, reported players, etc. But it would be quite the exercise to work out the algorithm and calculations to adjust the MMR in this way.
: I'm sick of seeing pyke, akali and aatrox in every single game
You can always ban one of them and hope that the others do likewise. But you have my sympathies.
: >the only way to climb **(in low elo)** is to play a hyper carry This was different exactly when?
> [{quoted}](name=CrazyMonkeyCZ,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=MGArpKGt,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-12T06:31:19.971+0000) > > This was different exactly when? A couple of seasons back...although 2017 was not looked on fondly by some (due to the ardent censer effect in the playoffs), the year did have a lot of experimentation in it and it allowed for a bit more diversity. As a result, there was a wider variety of champs that were viable in that year - including tanks and some non-hyper carry adcs.
: Banning nothing is okay
Banning nothing indicates that you don't care about the rest of your team and that you are not a team player. If you can't think of a ban, then ask your teammates for a suggestion. Don't waste an opportunity to help your team and increase your chances for a win.
: Because the jungle is kinda messed up right now. Red side gives so much more xp then blue side so it’s a real pain in the ass to deal with.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=XlFLP0My,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T06:21:24.879+0000) > > Because the jungle is kinda messed up right now. Red side gives so much more xp then blue side so it’s a real pain in the ass to deal with. You forgot about the nearly manditory need for vertical jungling and the mess related to the scuttles.
5050BS (NA)
: Riot Created Iron rank but Im seeing worse players in Upper Silver then I did before Iron was added.
Strange. In past years, Silver players didn't know macro. They usually had a grasp of mechanics - but knew little about objective play, minion farming, lane priority or channeling a kill in one lane into a larger team advantage. From what I have seen, they still do the same as irons and bronzes and do blind arams at mid once the mid tier 2 tower falls. They also call out group when there is a Tryndamere or similar split pusher on their team and don't play according to their comps. To be honest, I don't think Silver hasn't changed that much.
Plebiven (NA)
: AFKS TILT ME
Sympathies. In the space of about 10 days, I got hit by the Critical Error bug - both myself and teammates. Consequently, I went from playing against players at a SIlver 1 tier to playing against Bronze and Irons. And this was with dodging to reduce MMR loss. But when you get teammates who can't get into the game, or you get a stuck with a badly engineered LoL client that freezes because it is not compatible with the 19.03 patch, then you have to be ready to face LP and MMR losses.
l MrD l (NA)
: Im getting bored of playing vs assasins now ...
The League Ecology is out of balance and the current meta is at the height of "unfun". Anytime you see in Challenger or Pro play team comps that feature a lack of adcs, tanks and/or mages you know that the balance in the game has broken down.
: Is Vel'Koz support viable in Gold elo?
Yes - Painless, Eggsalad and Azzazapp have been playing Vel to climb on their accounts regularly (mains and smurfs). And they have been able to do quite fine from unranked all the way to Challenger when playing in the support role.
: Uhhh no. The garbage heap of league is top lane. There is a reason everything from tank mages to adcs have been up there. Bot lane is still the standered marksman and support with a few exceptions. The reason you see stuff like karma top and Janna mid is because those champions are so over tuned ( especially karma ) that they are able to go in those lanes without issue.
> [{quoted}](name=Soul Dealer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=OudEyX0Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-12T06:30:35.527+0000) > > Uhhh no. The garbage heap of league is top lane. There is a reason everything from tank mages to adcs have been up there. Bot lane is still the standered marksman and support with a few exceptions. The reason you see stuff like karma top and Janna mid is because those champions are so over tuned ( especially karma ) that they are able to go in those lanes without issue. Congrats - like the recent news stories out of the Far East have indicated, it seems that garbage from one part of the map has been exported to other parts of the map where the garbage just doesn't belong.
: Has botlane become a sustain lane?
Look carefully at the meta for the most of this season. Tanks have been largely absent from the top lane - instead we are seeing Akali, Darius, Aatrox, Garen, Urgot, Kled, Riven Jax and Yorick. The tanks are struggling on top. Instead, they are being moved to the botlane where we have been seeing the likes of Galio, Alistar, Ornn, Volibear, Poppy, Nautilus, Tahm Kench, etc. Heck, we are now getting the likes of Garen in botlane now. Even Tilterella is finding that he can't climb with SIon on toplane and is playing his split-push inting Sion as a support on botlane. Toplaners and the midlane assassin mains got your wish when Riot nerfed the heck out of the other roles - a completed screwed up (and frankly unfun) meta to play in.
D357R0Y3R (EUW)
: wtf are you talking about? they hammered janna's W and buffed hard her E to make her going back to be a shield bot
> [{quoted}](name=D357R0Y3R,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=00JGs8zu,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T22:18:46.279+0000) > > wtf are you talking about? they hammered janna's W and buffed hard her E to make her going back to be a shield bot The shield is still not where it used to be for Janna or the other enchanters. There was a reason why Lux and Sona was doing so well as a support - and it was not due to their damage, though that was an added bonus. It was due to the heals and shields. You see, the nerfs from the 8.1x patches across the healers and shielders are still for the most part in place currently. (For example, note how Soraka had a recent rework that improved her Q and nerfed her E. This caused her to actually drop in winrate. This was because the Riot devs have forgotten how the support class actually works - and why they are important for keeping squishy marksmen alive.)
Rylalei (EUNE)
: I know there's unwinnable games, and I don't have an issue with those, we all have bad games, I've had my fair share of bad games, both as laner and as jungler. What I mean is games like the one i just had. Level 2 gank from J4 just outside my turret range as I was letting Teemo push to try get a bounce and level 3 lead. Ok, that's cool, then got another 2 ganks in the next 3 minutes. I ask Kha to go gank bot or top so he can draw pressure and keep J4 away from mid for a sec, he comes mid, dies 1v2. Kha had the 2nd lowest damage in the team, lowest KP in the team, he was lucky to get 2 KP per fight where we ace them, only playing for kills, legit, the whole team told him to help and all we get was an "I play how I want". If not for the Yuumi, Irelia and the fact that Qiyana's ult near walls can win fights if followed up on, we would've lost. It's just tiring. Most of my games are either a hard asspull win, most of the time without a jungler OR a throw from my team, tell them to back *Master Yi triple kill*. I make mistakes, I fuck up games and lose some because of those mistakes, everyone does, but when there ain't a game looking fair, what can I do? Look at this one: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/448473930810916864/609841616064348170/Sure.jpg Their team's lowest ranked player was a B1, now look at my jungler. I just hate the "if you want a good jungler, go jungle yourself", I'm tired of it, there's a reason why I stopped jungling, but it looks like I might have to go back if I want to win.
> [{quoted}](name=Rylalei,realm=EUNE,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=00JGs8zu,comment-id=000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-11T21:13:00.381+0000) > I just hate the "if you want a good jungler, go jungle yourself", I'm tired of it, there's a reason why I stopped jungling, but it looks like I might have to go back if I want to win. Sympathies.
: Surrender@20 is so depressing, for every 1 damage nerf another 5 champs get damage buffs
All damage. Hardly anything heal-wise, shield-wise or cc-wise. Next to nothing for tanks. Nothing to help keep the marksmen alive. Are we surprised? {{sticker:sg-lulu}} Who would have thought that so much damage could be so boring?
CJXander (EUNE)
: Pool Party Ahri - Login screen
This is the event we should be having instead of this god-awful Project thing. Kudos on the work whoever was responsible.
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