: > [{quoted}](name=BlueWaterBelow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEXP2B97,comment-id=000000000000000000010000,timestamp=2018-07-05T00:13:34.702+0000)And if the solution is "just don't communicate" then again, there needs to be a better system. The solution isn't "don't communicate" -- it's "mute the offending players or respond politely/neutrally." As opposed tho this, which is all rather passive-aggressive psuedo-insults. >BlueWaterBelow: Yep, im the child lol >BlueWaterBelow: Ahri, you are not doing well enough to be critisizing anyone lol >BlueWaterBelow: Actually I do know how to ult, but keep coming up with excuses >BlueWaterBelow: Is every teenager laying this games first instinct to say the other person is younger than them? >BlueWaterBelow: You're condescending to someone on a video game lol dont talk to me about growing up
I'm not trying to be belligerent, nor do I intend to be whining. But that's not fair. Every single one of those comments has no context without a clearly more direct insult preceding it. You're still telling me that even though I was aggressively flamed, I deserve a restriction, not for actively flaming back, but for responding "passive-aggressively with pseudo-insults". How is this not considered a problem?! I sent the full chat log, I did not insult anyone I literally just asked why I wasn't receiving help. I get punished and they don't, and I'm being told it's my fault? Seriously wtaf is wrong with this games community.
: > BlueWaterBelow: Have some map awareness > BlueWaterBelow: you sat back and let me die > BlueWaterBelow: *says grow up a bit* *leaves the game because tilted* > BlueWaterBelow: Actually I do know how to ult, but keep coming up with excuses > BlueWaterBelow: Is every teenager laying this games first instinct to say the other person is younger than them? > BlueWaterBelow: You're condescending to someone on a video game lol dont talk to me about growing up > BlueWaterBelow: Ahri, you are not doing well enough to be critisizing anyone lol > BlueWaterBelow: Ahri, you are 3/9 > BlueWaterBelow: Yep, im the child lol So I can relate to your frustration, but this sort of chat doesn't help anything, creates a negative environment, is insulting/condescending, and is definitely what got you in trouble. The best thing to do when being antagonized is either to mute them or to simply respond politely/neutrally and carry on playing the game.
You can't be serious, I did not insult anyone, every comment above was directly responsive to an insult being hurled at me by 3 of my 4 team mates. Additionally, since I keep hearing over and over Riot doesn't manually hand out restrictions, that to me implies that the chat wouldn't be involved and it was the 3 against 1 that got me punished, which wouldn't change regardless. And if the solution is "just don't communicate" then again, there needs to be a better system. This is a 5 person game, you can't just not communicate, especially if you want to do better. The better half of that chat was just trying to actively acknowledge I was being flamed, pointing out the kda of one of the people flaming is the only expressly negative things I said and if that's ban worthy, that is a SERIOUS problem with me, I don't care if the game is going well or not people do that CONSTANTLY.
: > [{quoted}](name=RxO Carmada,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEXP2B97,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-07-04T23:54:59.323+0000)I submitted a ticket to Riot their response was somewhere along the lines of. "While we appreciate you reporting him the IFS handles that, tough luck." That's how it works though -- Riot support doesn't usually manually issue suspensions, because that player already had that game count against him/her once you reported them. Those points towards a punishment (or that punishment) is already on their account.
Does a personally issued threat, even if it doesn't amount to anything, just not matter? I understand his frustration here, because all people ever seem to hear is "Riot doesnt stop that", well wtf DO they stop?
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueWaterBelow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEXP2B97,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2018-07-04T23:42:13.613+0000) > > Since I haven't played out the chat restriction I still have access to the log, I just don't know how to copy it over. Also it records mine but not others, in case that matters. You should be able to simply highlight it and copy/paste. It only showing yours is intentional though -- each player is judged on his or her behavior, because provocation is not considered an acceptable excuse to violate the rules.
Game 1 Pre-Game BlueWaterBelow: Good call BlueWaterBelow: Fiora or Garen jg? In-Game BlueWaterBelow: why tho BlueWaterBelow: fair enough BlueWaterBelow: guys, wtf BlueWaterBelow: yall were both at full health, that was an easy double BlueWaterBelow: it wasnt even under turret omfg BlueWaterBelow: sona, why did you not help drag BlueWaterBelow: No, I think thats afair question BlueWaterBelow: She sat in lane by herself BlueWaterBelow: I did, MULTIPLE times BlueWaterBelow: Have some map awareness BlueWaterBelow: lol yes I did. Scroll up. BlueWaterBelow: The gank I attempted bot and pinged my inc, you sat back and let me die. So no, im not guna keep coming back BlueWaterBelow: *says grow up a bit* *leaves the game because tilted* BlueWaterBelow: 2 people left simultaneously. Made the assumption. BlueWaterBelow: Actually I do know how to ult, but keep coming up with excuses BlueWaterBelow: Vayne did... BlueWaterBelow: Into context? "you dont even know how to use ult" BlueWaterBelow: Is every teenager laying this games first instinct to say the other person is younger than them? BlueWaterBelow: Ive met people older then me less mature, and younge rpeople more mature, who tf cares BlueWaterBelow: You're condescending to someone on a video game lol dont talk to me about growing up BlueWaterBelow: Literally all I did was asked to be backe dup on ganks BlueWaterBelow: Or a jungler who asked their laners to back him up when he ganked BlueWaterBelow: Ahri, you are not doing well enough to be critisizing anyone lol BlueWaterBelow: i copy pasted your words vayne haha BlueWaterBelow: Ahri, you are 3/9 BlueWaterBelow: Yep, im the child lol BlueWaterBelow: Youre laning against a leblanc bb BlueWaterBelow: I ganked twice and she dashed out both times BlueWaterBelow: Everythig I said has been perfectly logical... BlueWaterBelow: no, my first and only complaint was a gank bot i pinged for, we had an easy position, and yall didnt respond BlueWaterBelow: Yall took that and have been flaming me ever since BlueWaterBelow: That was the first thing I said lol BlueWaterBelow: I also havent complained since, yall have been flaming me and calling my responses toxic BlueWaterBelow: Vaynbe, I have pinged every action this entire game BlueWaterBelow: I dont mind admitting when I miss a ping, but I didnt. BlueWaterBelow: I also have to appreciate that Im the one yall chose to flame, when all this ahri has done is say "we have anoc" over and over
: > [{quoted}](name=BlueWaterBelow,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=EEXP2B97,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-07-04T23:33:36.144+0000)Alright, anyone else had really poor experiences and gotten chat restrictions or worse they sincerely felt they did not deserve? Do you have your chat logs? I'd be happy to help you figure out whether this is an instance where you should talk to Player Support, or whether there is behavior here that you may be missing. Basically, one or two toxic games here and there *can* get you punished, based on how much toxicity is in your one or two games.
Since I haven't played out the chat restriction I still have access to the log, I just don't know how to copy it over. Also it records mine but not others, in case that matters.
: Players should be allowed to ban whatever champion they want.
Disagree. I have been in multiple scenarios, especially now that roles are assigned and autofills happen, where someone doesnt like their role, will say "I'm taking (x) btw", ban that persons champion to discourage them, etc. And they're right, there's never a punishment for this kind of trolling, and frankly there should be. That's toxic, not to mention extremely rude. But if someone bullies their way into the lane it's just expected that the person assigned to (x) back down and just give it to them to "avoid conflict". That's not the proper way to handle the situation imo, it encourages that kind of behavior.
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