: I don't believe the Ixtal Territory in the Universe Map
I completely agree for one simple reason: Nidalee, Neeko, Rengar and Zyra all roam the jungles, they are in no way real members of Ixaocan society. So how can they be considered part of the faction, if they are *technically* not in their borders according to the map? Alongside that, take the Freljord for instance. They are BARELY a faction, and more like a hodgepodge arctic wasteland with a bunch of neutral, warring tribes against one another. If the Freljord can be considered a faction in that sense, why can't Ixtal have proper borders?
: So how the heck did gnar end up in a jungle exactly?
Must be some Yordle portal shenanigans if I were to guess.
: Are we ever going to get a female Noxian?
{{champion:92}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:55}}
: What did Urgot look like before his transformation?
Pale Mask (EUW)
: A VGU that's easily overlooked
LeBlanc has absolutely amazing potential for a VGU due to her archetype and interesting lore. Unfortunately there are still so many Champs that need a rework much more badly, so I feel like the most resonable way to fit in LeBlanc would be to give her a rework like EZ? EDIT: Also, I hope her VFX can also have 'glass effects,' my headcanon is that her clones are made of mirrors and that her staff is not a floating crystal, but something akin to a shattered hand mirror. https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/86/91/13/500_F_186911349_z7oSKIeE7TH6zQGOQUX7NA7HbzRhW5hM.jpg
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: They should give him better mindgames options. I'd suggest a rework to his fear. That he places a (visible) scarecrow that after a delay erupts in crows, fearing enemies away from it. This means he can position in a way to fear people *into* his drain like the old days, but it can be counterplayed by quickly killing the scarecrow or by staying out of the radius. To also up his mindgames, lets also say he can place it on a ward, and people that trigger it see a fake fiddlesticks ult (does no damage, literally just scares the bejesus out of them)
> [{quoted}](name=ChaosReyn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=UrNWwFrd,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-05-10T20:58:31.559+0000) > > They should give him better mindgames options. I'd suggest a rework to his fear. That he places a (visible) scarecrow that after a delay erupts in crows, fearing enemies away from it. This means he can position in a way to fear people *into* his drain like the old days, but it can be counterplayed by quickly killing the scarecrow or by staying out of the radius. > > To also up his mindgames, lets also say he can place it on a ward, and people that trigger it see a fake fiddlesticks ult (does no damage, literally just scares the bejesus out of them) Exactly this!!! An Idea for a new passive for him was to have it so that he passively spawns non targetable, regular scarecrows in whatever section of the jungle he's currently in. With that, Fiddle can also become completely identical to these regular scarecrows if he stands still for a few seconds, gaining movement speed when he comes out of his weird pseudo-stealth, maybe even enhancing the duration of his fear?
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: Bitch I chose Shyvana. LOOK at that dragon from, she looks malnourished.
> [{quoted}](name=14daysuspensionk,realm=EUNE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=lEnnmqHA,comment-id=0013,timestamp=2019-05-10T08:07:05.234+0000) > > Bitch I chose Shyvana. > > > > LOOK at that dragon from, she looks malnourished. Too bad Shyvana doesn't have fingers to hold a gun in dragon form.
: i voted fiddle cause this fucker needs it desperately. his e is the most inconsistent shit EVER. 2 minions and 5 enemy champions all close together? let me bounce 6 times between the 2 minions. oh you use your w on a champ? too bad i will target another minion thats WAY BACK so now im outside of the range where i register your w. whats this, you sneezed during your w/r channel? sorry its canceld now lul fiddle is indeed self aware "i dont have a brain"
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=lEnnmqHA,comment-id=0014,timestamp=2019-05-10T08:53:54.256+0000) > > i voted fiddle cause this fucker needs it desperately. > his e is the most inconsistent shit EVER. > > 2 minions and 5 enemy champions all close together? let me bounce 6 times between the 2 minions. > oh you use your w on a champ? too bad i will target another minion thats WAY BACK so now im outside of the range where i register your w. > whats this, you sneezed during your w/r channel? sorry its canceld now lul > > fiddle is indeed self aware "i dont have a brain" And also because he needs a gun right?
Knihovak (NA)
: Am I allowed to link to youtube here? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hcXm2vr5I In the original cut of The Wizard of Oz, the Scarecrow had a gun. Seriously, watch this scene.
> [{quoted}](name=Knihovak,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=lEnnmqHA,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-05-10T03:06:45.953+0000) > > Am I allowed to link to youtube here? > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9hcXm2vr5I > In the original cut of The Wizard of Oz, the Scarecrow had a gun. Seriously, watch this scene. OH MY GOD...THE PROPHECY MUST BE TRUE! #GIVEFIDDLEAGUN2020
Saevum (NA)
: He went from mid lane to jungle and then to support. He is the one that badly needs something. I miss Middlesticks.
> [{quoted}](name=Saevum,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=lEnnmqHA,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-05-09T23:35:07.611+0000) > > He went from mid lane to jungle and then to support. He is the one that badly needs something. > > I miss Middlesticks. Yea but can he have a gun?
: But what if they gave you the embodiment of nightmares a gun? {{champion:56}} That's like.. your worst nightmare with a gun!
> [{quoted}](name=Tormentula,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=lEnnmqHA,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-05-09T23:26:07.921+0000) > > But what if they gave you the embodiment of nightmares a gun? {{champion:56}} > > That's like.. > > your worst nightmare with a gun! Heresy. Nocturne is a dumb fartcloud who can't even hold a gun Give Fiddlesticks a Gun 2020.
: Vote Nocturne Because...
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SuperYay (NA)
: Which champions do you think look best with their default skin?
{{champion:555}} As of right now, I'm not a huge fan of his skins, but not because they are *bad* skins. In my opinion, they just don't live up to his base look.
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Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: I mean, the end of Yuumi's trailer we saw a village.
> [{quoted}](name=Vlada Cut,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ELIs4ZU,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-04-27T19:14:43.830+0000) > > I mean, the end of Yuumi's trailer we saw a village. That was the Crystal Scar, Dominion map.
MagmaEnder (EUNE)
: https://ibb.co/fXFm7xT btw
> [{quoted}](name=MagmaEnder,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=6ELIs4ZU,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-27T11:30:22.112+0000) > > https://ibb.co/fXFm7xT btw That is Zaun my dude
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Quáx (NA)
: Riots new logo
If you ask me, they should have at the very least kept the same shape of the fist.
: Lorewise, who wins a 1v1 sniper duel: Caitlyn or Jhin?
Caitlyn, in my opinion. She's more adept with the rifle since childhood, while Jhin only recently picked up the gun during his recent 'performances,' originally he actually used a knife. Not only that but Caitlyn _technically_ never misses her ult, unlike Jhin :^)
: A personal request for when Mundo gets his VGU
To be fair, how could they make CORPORATE MUNDO serious? I can't think of any fantasy that it could potentially fill in a edgy/badass way, aside from just being a funny business man.
Xedlord (NA)
: Comparing the two pictures, it kind of looks like an older W.I.P. version of her splash art
> [{quoted}](name=Xedlord,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AA9VW2ZZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-15T23:20:35.222+0000) > > Comparing the two pictures, it kind of looks like an older W.I.P. version of her splash art This^ 99.9% sure this isn't anything too substantial aside from the possibility that the dude is Stefan, her older brother.
: Good job, this looks like a teaser for our new support! Here is the universe image: https://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/camille_splash.jpg I don't have the old one, but if you look at it in your client, the window is clearly not broken.
> [{quoted}](name=Lordredstonenr1,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AA9VW2ZZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-15T22:40:51.844+0000) > > Good job, this looks like a teaser for our new support! > Here is the universe image: > https://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/camille_splash.jpg > > I don't have the old one, but if you look at it in your client, the window is clearly not broken. Doubt it's the new support. My guess is that that's either A) One of her victims or B) Her brother Stefan
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: Upcoming Shonen Skin Line
It's hinted that the potential New Champion may release alongside the skinline too, perhaps they'll be the teacher.
: While I think the post is a bit dramatic, I do find it funny they had a different bio saved in their files than what the rest of us had. I think that its more a minor hickup and as long as they plan on revisiting it and fixing it up so we have the best of both worlds, I don't really care. I am sad to see dragon dad disappear, considering it was pretty cool that he cared for shyvanna despite her human form. Maybe we can get him back before too long.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaneShadow,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-03-08T06:44:58.497+0000) > > While I think the post is a bit dramatic, I do find it funny they had a different bio saved in their files than what the rest of us had. > > I think that its more a minor hickup and as long as they plan on revisiting it and fixing it up so we have the best of both worlds, I don't really care. I am sad to see dragon dad disappear, considering it was pretty cool that he cared for shyvanna despite her human form. Maybe we can get him back before too long. Lots of statements by Rioters are leading us to believe that they most definetly are NOT adding Shyvana's Dragon Dad Relationship back in. If _this_ version of the lore, without Dragon Dad, was considered the TRUE canon by Riot for the last two years, then they probably won't go back and change a story they'd already set up.
: It has been 24 hours now. As far as I can see there hasn't been a follow up response.
> [{quoted}](name=GreatSirZachary,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T16:26:04.850+0000) > > It has been 24 hours now. As far as I can see there hasn't been a follow up response. All I want is for Riot to at least come out and say that they made a mistake. For this whole argument, all they've told us is that we were wrong for thinking this was a major retcon and insisted that Shyvanas dad simply didn't exist. I know a revert or any possible edits are not very likely, but at least own up to a mistake you made...
: @Riot, Please listen to the lore fans and revert Shyvana
I'm usually never one to call out for a 'revert' or general edit to a new Champion's lore, but Shyvana's is a whole other case in general. Because of some issues internally with Riot's narrative team, there was a huge disconnect between what we the players read, versus what Riot were keeping as Shyvana's 'canon.' Because of this mistake, I feel like Riot should at the very least just own up to the fact that a mistake was made, just to clear out some confusion. Along with that, if possible (and I know this sounds selfish) we deserve to get SOME edits to the lore, considering that they had established a canon for us that we've been connected to and completely changed it purely due to communication errors. I'm not, of course, making a call to FORCE Riot to rewrite Shyvana's lore to fit more with our previous iteration, but I personally feel like, considering the circumstances, it would be the right thing to do.
: Alright then, new problem. If the bio we got is a slightly revised version of a bio we were always supposed to have when Galio was reworked it still means that without the mistake we would have an inferior bio 2 years ago. A bio with Shyvana's mother having no given motivation, Shyvana being a half-dragon for no reason (or a few paper thin reasons), not spending time traveling with her father as they fled from a dragon looking to kill Shyvana (a staple of her story since the start), not having her father killed while trying to save her. This last one is important because Shyvana follows in his foot steps of a self-sacrificing defender by becoming Jarvan IV's guard. By choosing compassion and empathy.
> [{quoted}](name=GreatSirZachary,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-03-06T23:34:41.497+0000) > > Alright then, new problem. If the bio we got is a slightly revised version of a bio we were always supposed to have when Galio was reworked it still means that without the mistake we would have an inferior bio 2 years ago. A bio with Shyvana's mother having no given motivation, Shyvana being a half-dragon for no reason (or a few paper thin reasons), not spending time traveling with her father as they fled from a dragon looking to kill Shyvana (a staple of her story since the start), not having her fathered killed while trying to save her. This last one is important because Shyvana follows in his foot steps of a self-sacrificing defender by becoming Jarvan IV's guard. By choosing compassion and empathy. I think the implication was that the decision to remove Shyvana's Dragon Father was what we were suppose to see 2 years ago, it seems that everything else Goulding saw still applied somewhat to the Bio WE got. It's just such a disaster trying to discuss a Bio we love being removed, when the Rioter in question has never seen this bio until now...
: It wasn't a mistake, Riot, it was the will of Fate declaring that Dragon Dad is the best dad.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-06T22:17:17.492+0000) > > It wasn't a mistake, Riot, it was the will of Fate declaring that Dragon Dad is the best dad. Number #1 Dragon Dad. But seriously, take a look at this statement. https://twitter.com/LaurieGoulding/status/1103336258485379072 Nobody at Riot, according to Goulding, even considered the fact that Dragon Dad, one of the key aspects of Shyvana's lore which is literally part of every iteration of her bio up to this recent one.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Goulding always had an interesting take on various lores. His understanding of what is canon in Warhammer 40k is annoyingly single minded. While most authors in Black Library will leave some wiggle room regarding what some characters did or when and how events unfolded, he tends to outright say "my way is the only way". Sure, he actually contacts fans (unlike SOME BL authors do), but he tends to dismiss major complaints with "i know better" attitude.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-06T22:09:55.191+0000) > > Goulding always had an interesting take on various lores. His understanding of what is canon in Warhammer 40k is annoyingly single minded. While most authors in Black Library will leave some wiggle room regarding what some characters did or when and how events unfolded, he tends to outright say "my way is the only way". > > Sure, he actually contact fans (unlike SOME BL authors do), he tends to dismiss major complaints with "i know better" attitude. Again I don't mean to call out Goulding specifically or start any form of a witch-hunt, I still appreciate most of his work. But this mistake is still incredibly devastating, especially considering that an entire Biography was completely invisible to Riot, one that many felt connected to and considered as a modernized story.
: Why was Shyvana retconned?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
: Why was Shyvana changed? Can we get a real answer?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
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Gixia (NA)
: There isn't much to say that wasn't said already, but fuck it I need to add in my agreement anyways. This utterly butchers Shyvana's narrative and it's been a long time since I've been THIS pissed off at the lore.
> [{quoted}](name=Gixia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Em0fVJcn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-06T15:14:47.803+0000) > > There isn't much to say that wasn't said already, but fuck it I need to add in my agreement anyways. This utterly butchers Shyvana's narrative and it's been a long time since I've been THIS pissed off at the lore. The thing about THIS lore piece in particular that upsets me so much is simply because it was such a sudden, drastic and seemingle unnecesay change. Other updated bios such as Lux and Jarvan's recently, though had changes, only added details or cut unnecesary ones. Bigger lores like Nautilus and Karma were also older and somewhat expected to have changes. Shyvanas on the other hand was, for some reason, grouped up as a "slight edit", yet is a complete overhaul of the character. Not only was I not expecting such a harsh change, but Riot still plays it off as a 'small change'
: Why was Shyvana changed? Can we get a real answer?
Please. I'm sick of either a lack of responses or Rioters simply beating around the bush...
: > [{quoted}](name=BonzaiBuddy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-03-06T03:59:53.359+0000) > > Watch out, they might hear you and completely remove Lady Buvelle, give no details on how her Etwahl works and have her raised by a random nameless hobo instead. Yknow as stupid as I sound, as long as she doesn't face a life of hell and is still a good person, I'd be happy with that hypothetical lore and consider a bullet dodged lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-03-06T04:02:34.294+0000) > > Yknow as stupid as I sound, as long as she doesn't face a life of hell and is still a good person, I'd be happy with that hypothetical lore and consider a bullet dodged lmao I actually wrote up a concept for new Sona lore a while back which essentially made Sona a Demacian Disney princess in a way.
: At this point I'm starting to wonder if I even want them to update Sona because I'm sure they'll find some stupid way to fuck her over.
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-03-06T03:53:13.159+0000) > > At this point I'm starting to wonder if I even want them to update Sona because I'm sure they'll find some stupid way to fuck her over. Watch out, they might hear you and completely remove Lady Buvelle, give no details on how her Etwahl works and have her raised by a random nameless hobo instead.
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: What I really like about her is that has multiple themes its not like the most champions recently. For example Kayle and Morgana. Kayle is holy and bright because she wants to be like mommy no matter what, and Morgana is dark because she doesn't want to be like mommy. She likes daddy. (this is very very simplified but it's pretty much what they have become)
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mpIAwdEl,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T14:17:00.700+0000) > > What I really like about her is that has multiple themes its not like the most champions recently. For example Kayle and Morgana. Kayle is holy and bright because she wants to be like mommy no matter what, and Morgana is dark because she doesn't want to be like mommy. She likes daddy. (this is very very simplified but it's pretty much what they have become) That's...really dumbing it down to fit your strangely simplified views on it I guess. Kayle & Morgana have some depth to them as well but I'm guessing you're not a big fan of them.
: Omega Squad Teemo is displayed as having signs of PTSD, if that helps. I would expect battle-hardened soldiers in canon Runeterra to be affected as well. Jinx has Antisocial Personality Disorder. (Probably.) I think Orianna could be fleshed out more - currently she just seems naive. A new VO would probably explore her transferred consciousness pretty well. I'd expect to see a lower rate of mental illness than real life, thanks to the lack of modern societal pressures that are messing us up IRL, but it would still be present. *However...* it might not be acknowledged fully or treated properly. So not everyone might *recognize* that it's a thing.
> [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EEoAGyAc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-01T22:54:03.778+0000) > Jinx has Antisocial Personality Disorder. (Probably.) IIRC, Jinx also has signs of Multiple Personality Disorder as mentioned by a Rioter I believe? The evidence for this are seen by how she essentially 'talks to her guns,' as Ekko put it, which can very well be her way of expressing other personalities onto inanimate objects.
: Runeterra and Mental Illness
On a more 'fantastical' note, the Darkin are literally the pure embodiment of PTSD.
: {{champion:164}}
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mpIAwdEl,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-03-01T21:31:58.716+0000) > > {{champion:164}} Agree with this one. Camille has some of the deepest, most interesting 'human' story. Former lover, having to choose duty over love, dealing with a jealous brother etc. The Weakest Heart is my favorite lorepiece period.
Reiizm (NA)
: Lore facts that sound like bullshit but are actually 100% true
{{champion:36}} Mundo is literally a giant purple baby that scientists found in the sewers
: {{champion:20}} They made a little kid that look like a boring bully and turned him into a fun loving kid that wants to be a hero. Also the his voice lines are great since they talk to each other and talk about the jungle camps.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EHBMBRsK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-01T01:24:07.107+0000) > > {{champion:20}} > They made a little kid that look like a boring bully and turned him into a fun loving kid that wants to be a hero. Also the his voice lines are great since they talk to each other and talk about the jungle camps. This. Old Nunu had the biggest shit-eating grin and he was such a fucking bratty looking child. New Nunu is a genuinely sweet kid and he's adorable as hell with Willump.
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