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Quáx (NA)
: Riots new logo
If you ask me, they should have at the very least kept the same shape of the fist.
: Lorewise, who wins a 1v1 sniper duel: Caitlyn or Jhin?
Caitlyn, in my opinion. She's more adept with the rifle since childhood, while Jhin only recently picked up the gun during his recent 'performances,' originally he actually used a knife. Not only that but Caitlyn _technically_ never misses her ult, unlike Jhin :^)
: A personal request for when Mundo gets his VGU
To be fair, how could they make CORPORATE MUNDO serious? I can't think of any fantasy that it could potentially fill in a edgy/badass way, aside from just being a funny business man.
Xedlord (NA)
: Comparing the two pictures, it kind of looks like an older W.I.P. version of her splash art
> [{quoted}](name=Xedlord,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AA9VW2ZZ,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-03-15T23:20:35.222+0000) > > Comparing the two pictures, it kind of looks like an older W.I.P. version of her splash art This^ 99.9% sure this isn't anything too substantial aside from the possibility that the dude is Stefan, her older brother.
: Good job, this looks like a teaser for our new support! Here is the universe image: https://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/camille_splash.jpg I don't have the old one, but if you look at it in your client, the window is clearly not broken.
> [{quoted}](name=Lordredstonenr1,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=AA9VW2ZZ,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-03-15T22:40:51.844+0000) > > Good job, this looks like a teaser for our new support! > Here is the universe image: > https://universe-meeps.leagueoflegends.com/v1/assets/images/camille_splash.jpg > > I don't have the old one, but if you look at it in your client, the window is clearly not broken. Doubt it's the new support. My guess is that that's either A) One of her victims or B) Her brother Stefan
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: Upcoming Shonen Skin Line
It's hinted that the potential New Champion may release alongside the skinline too, perhaps they'll be the teacher.
: While I think the post is a bit dramatic, I do find it funny they had a different bio saved in their files than what the rest of us had. I think that its more a minor hickup and as long as they plan on revisiting it and fixing it up so we have the best of both worlds, I don't really care. I am sad to see dragon dad disappear, considering it was pretty cool that he cared for shyvanna despite her human form. Maybe we can get him back before too long.
> [{quoted}](name=ZaneShadow,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0016,timestamp=2019-03-08T06:44:58.497+0000) > > While I think the post is a bit dramatic, I do find it funny they had a different bio saved in their files than what the rest of us had. > > I think that its more a minor hickup and as long as they plan on revisiting it and fixing it up so we have the best of both worlds, I don't really care. I am sad to see dragon dad disappear, considering it was pretty cool that he cared for shyvanna despite her human form. Maybe we can get him back before too long. Lots of statements by Rioters are leading us to believe that they most definetly are NOT adding Shyvana's Dragon Dad Relationship back in. If _this_ version of the lore, without Dragon Dad, was considered the TRUE canon by Riot for the last two years, then they probably won't go back and change a story they'd already set up.
: It has been 24 hours now. As far as I can see there hasn't been a follow up response.
> [{quoted}](name=GreatSirZachary,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=000a00000000,timestamp=2019-03-07T16:26:04.850+0000) > > It has been 24 hours now. As far as I can see there hasn't been a follow up response. All I want is for Riot to at least come out and say that they made a mistake. For this whole argument, all they've told us is that we were wrong for thinking this was a major retcon and insisted that Shyvanas dad simply didn't exist. I know a revert or any possible edits are not very likely, but at least own up to a mistake you made...
: @Riot, Please listen to the lore fans and revert Shyvana
I'm usually never one to call out for a 'revert' or general edit to a new Champion's lore, but Shyvana's is a whole other case in general. Because of some issues internally with Riot's narrative team, there was a huge disconnect between what we the players read, versus what Riot were keeping as Shyvana's 'canon.' Because of this mistake, I feel like Riot should at the very least just own up to the fact that a mistake was made, just to clear out some confusion. Along with that, if possible (and I know this sounds selfish) we deserve to get SOME edits to the lore, considering that they had established a canon for us that we've been connected to and completely changed it purely due to communication errors. I'm not, of course, making a call to FORCE Riot to rewrite Shyvana's lore to fit more with our previous iteration, but I personally feel like, considering the circumstances, it would be the right thing to do.
: Alright then, new problem. If the bio we got is a slightly revised version of a bio we were always supposed to have when Galio was reworked it still means that without the mistake we would have an inferior bio 2 years ago. A bio with Shyvana's mother having no given motivation, Shyvana being a half-dragon for no reason (or a few paper thin reasons), not spending time traveling with her father as they fled from a dragon looking to kill Shyvana (a staple of her story since the start), not having her father killed while trying to save her. This last one is important because Shyvana follows in his foot steps of a self-sacrificing defender by becoming Jarvan IV's guard. By choosing compassion and empathy.
> [{quoted}](name=GreatSirZachary,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-03-06T23:34:41.497+0000) > > Alright then, new problem. If the bio we got is a slightly revised version of a bio we were always supposed to have when Galio was reworked it still means that without the mistake we would have an inferior bio 2 years ago. A bio with Shyvana's mother having no given motivation, Shyvana being a half-dragon for no reason (or a few paper thin reasons), not spending time traveling with her father as they fled from a dragon looking to kill Shyvana (a staple of her story since the start), not having her fathered killed while trying to save her. This last one is important because Shyvana follows in his foot steps of a self-sacrificing defender by becoming Jarvan IV's guard. By choosing compassion and empathy. I think the implication was that the decision to remove Shyvana's Dragon Father was what we were suppose to see 2 years ago, it seems that everything else Goulding saw still applied somewhat to the Bio WE got. It's just such a disaster trying to discuss a Bio we love being removed, when the Rioter in question has never seen this bio until now...
: It wasn't a mistake, Riot, it was the will of Fate declaring that Dragon Dad is the best dad.
> [{quoted}](name=BoringLittleF,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-06T22:17:17.492+0000) > > It wasn't a mistake, Riot, it was the will of Fate declaring that Dragon Dad is the best dad. Number #1 Dragon Dad. But seriously, take a look at this statement. https://twitter.com/LaurieGoulding/status/1103336258485379072 Nobody at Riot, according to Goulding, even considered the fact that Dragon Dad, one of the key aspects of Shyvana's lore which is literally part of every iteration of her bio up to this recent one.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: Goulding always had an interesting take on various lores. His understanding of what is canon in Warhammer 40k is annoyingly single minded. While most authors in Black Library will leave some wiggle room regarding what some characters did or when and how events unfolded, he tends to outright say "my way is the only way". Sure, he actually contacts fans (unlike SOME BL authors do), but he tends to dismiss major complaints with "i know better" attitude.
> [{quoted}](name=GreenKnight,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=NN16QyIy,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-03-06T22:09:55.191+0000) > > Goulding always had an interesting take on various lores. His understanding of what is canon in Warhammer 40k is annoyingly single minded. While most authors in Black Library will leave some wiggle room regarding what some characters did or when and how events unfolded, he tends to outright say "my way is the only way". > > Sure, he actually contact fans (unlike SOME BL authors do), he tends to dismiss major complaints with "i know better" attitude. Again I don't mean to call out Goulding specifically or start any form of a witch-hunt, I still appreciate most of his work. But this mistake is still incredibly devastating, especially considering that an entire Biography was completely invisible to Riot, one that many felt connected to and considered as a modernized story.
: Why was Shyvana retconned?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
: Why was Shyvana changed? Can we get a real answer?
https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/NN16QyIy-shyvanas-new-bio-is-not-only-a-downgrade-of-a-decent-piece-of-lore-but-its-literally-a-mistake
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Gixia (NA)
: There isn't much to say that wasn't said already, but fuck it I need to add in my agreement anyways. This utterly butchers Shyvana's narrative and it's been a long time since I've been THIS pissed off at the lore.
> [{quoted}](name=Gixia,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Em0fVJcn,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-03-06T15:14:47.803+0000) > > There isn't much to say that wasn't said already, but fuck it I need to add in my agreement anyways. This utterly butchers Shyvana's narrative and it's been a long time since I've been THIS pissed off at the lore. The thing about THIS lore piece in particular that upsets me so much is simply because it was such a sudden, drastic and seemingle unnecesay change. Other updated bios such as Lux and Jarvan's recently, though had changes, only added details or cut unnecesary ones. Bigger lores like Nautilus and Karma were also older and somewhat expected to have changes. Shyvanas on the other hand was, for some reason, grouped up as a "slight edit", yet is a complete overhaul of the character. Not only was I not expecting such a harsh change, but Riot still plays it off as a 'small change'
: Why was Shyvana changed? Can we get a real answer?
Please. I'm sick of either a lack of responses or Rioters simply beating around the bush...
: > [{quoted}](name=BonzaiBuddy,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=00090000,timestamp=2019-03-06T03:59:53.359+0000) > > Watch out, they might hear you and completely remove Lady Buvelle, give no details on how her Etwahl works and have her raised by a random nameless hobo instead. Yknow as stupid as I sound, as long as she doesn't face a life of hell and is still a good person, I'd be happy with that hypothetical lore and consider a bullet dodged lmao
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=000900000000,timestamp=2019-03-06T04:02:34.294+0000) > > Yknow as stupid as I sound, as long as she doesn't face a life of hell and is still a good person, I'd be happy with that hypothetical lore and consider a bullet dodged lmao I actually wrote up a concept for new Sona lore a while back which essentially made Sona a Demacian Disney princess in a way.
: At this point I'm starting to wonder if I even want them to update Sona because I'm sure they'll find some stupid way to fuck her over.
> [{quoted}](name=Daedric Etwahl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=zZyiA08E,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-03-06T03:53:13.159+0000) > > At this point I'm starting to wonder if I even want them to update Sona because I'm sure they'll find some stupid way to fuck her over. Watch out, they might hear you and completely remove Lady Buvelle, give no details on how her Etwahl works and have her raised by a random nameless hobo instead.
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: What I really like about her is that has multiple themes its not like the most champions recently. For example Kayle and Morgana. Kayle is holy and bright because she wants to be like mommy no matter what, and Morgana is dark because she doesn't want to be like mommy. She likes daddy. (this is very very simplified but it's pretty much what they have become)
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mpIAwdEl,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2019-03-02T14:17:00.700+0000) > > What I really like about her is that has multiple themes its not like the most champions recently. For example Kayle and Morgana. Kayle is holy and bright because she wants to be like mommy no matter what, and Morgana is dark because she doesn't want to be like mommy. She likes daddy. (this is very very simplified but it's pretty much what they have become) That's...really dumbing it down to fit your strangely simplified views on it I guess. Kayle & Morgana have some depth to them as well but I'm guessing you're not a big fan of them.
: Omega Squad Teemo is displayed as having signs of PTSD, if that helps. I would expect battle-hardened soldiers in canon Runeterra to be affected as well. Jinx has Antisocial Personality Disorder. (Probably.) I think Orianna could be fleshed out more - currently she just seems naive. A new VO would probably explore her transferred consciousness pretty well. I'd expect to see a lower rate of mental illness than real life, thanks to the lack of modern societal pressures that are messing us up IRL, but it would still be present. *However...* it might not be acknowledged fully or treated properly. So not everyone might *recognize* that it's a thing.
> [{quoted}](name=KestrelGirl,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EEoAGyAc,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-01T22:54:03.778+0000) > Jinx has Antisocial Personality Disorder. (Probably.) IIRC, Jinx also has signs of Multiple Personality Disorder as mentioned by a Rioter I believe? The evidence for this are seen by how she essentially 'talks to her guns,' as Ekko put it, which can very well be her way of expressing other personalities onto inanimate objects.
: Runeterra and Mental Illness
On a more 'fantastical' note, the Darkin are literally the pure embodiment of PTSD.
: {{champion:164}}
> [{quoted}](name=Camille Ferrøs,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mpIAwdEl,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-03-01T21:31:58.716+0000) > > {{champion:164}} Agree with this one. Camille has some of the deepest, most interesting 'human' story. Former lover, having to choose duty over love, dealing with a jealous brother etc. The Weakest Heart is my favorite lorepiece period.
Reiizm (NA)
: Lore facts that sound like bullshit but are actually 100% true
{{champion:36}} Mundo is literally a giant purple baby that scientists found in the sewers
: {{champion:20}} They made a little kid that look like a boring bully and turned him into a fun loving kid that wants to be a hero. Also the his voice lines are great since they talk to each other and talk about the jungle camps.
> [{quoted}](name=boricCentaur1,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=EHBMBRsK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-03-01T01:24:07.107+0000) > > {{champion:20}} > They made a little kid that look like a boring bully and turned him into a fun loving kid that wants to be a hero. Also the his voice lines are great since they talk to each other and talk about the jungle camps. This. Old Nunu had the biggest shit-eating grin and he was such a fucking bratty looking child. New Nunu is a genuinely sweet kid and he's adorable as hell with Willump.
: If a tabard won't work with Kayle...why not a belt?
Someone edit a belt in, I wanna see how it looks
: So they changed it to make it look like armor(which is good) but still kept the spike that literally stabs her??
To be fair, it's not as prominent in this iteration. Originally if she even THOUGHT about leaning forward, she'd probably shatter her own sternum. Now, it just looks mildly uncomfortable to lean forward.
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: Kayle's Helmet as she levels up
In my opinion she should only take her helmet off at her absolute final form, as her unmasking is meant to be a really big deal and it fits with the idea that she finally "Ascends" at the end.
: Lore?
"Dota Lore" "*Warcraft Lore*" {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Keeping up with the constant lore retcons is giving me whiplash.
Lux and Garen bios were edited mostly due to word limit (Bios have to be around 600-700 words) and probably to compensate for their comic and Novella in the future. I highly doubt that Lux being a secret magic agent isn't canon anymore, they'd probably explore it in her future lore.
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: I got quite a lot of feedback on the Kennen VFX update, and one thing kept cropping up consistently. A lot of players weren't satisfied with his new E. People thought it looked a bit static, and felt like it was fulfilling a different fantasy. I want to cover what the aim of changing it was: to add gameplay clarity. I wanted to make sure the range was clearly indicated, and I want to avoid losing Kennen's silhouette entirely. Additionally, it was too bright before, and I wanted to move it away from just pure white. With this context in mind, please let me know what you think of this update to Kennen's E. I've given him a really quick run animation in a ninja pose so that he doesn't look static, and I've shifted the shape of the VFX back to being closer to the original. Is this better than the first version? Additionally, would you want this applied to super kennen? Or would you like super kennen to keep the VFX it had in the first preview video, so that you can see his pose better? https://youtu.be/s_3Skqi5uuM
> [{quoted}](name=Riot Beardilocks,realm=NA,application-id=A7LBtoKc,discussion-id=6r5PBr2Y,comment-id=00050003,timestamp=2019-02-06T04:31:27.243+0000) > > I got quite a lot of feedback on the Kennen VFX update, and one thing kept cropping up consistently. A lot of players weren't satisfied with his new E. People thought it looked a bit static, and felt like it was fulfilling a different fantasy. > > I want to cover what the aim of changing it was: to add gameplay clarity. I wanted to make sure the range was clearly indicated, and I want to avoid losing Kennen's silhouette entirely. Additionally, it was too bright before, and I wanted to move it away from just pure white. > > With this context in mind, please let me know what you think of this update to Kennen's E. I've given him a really quick run animation in a ninja pose so that he doesn't look static, and I've shifted the shape of the VFX back to being closer to the original. Is this better than the first version? > > Additionally, would you want this applied to super kennen? Or would you like super kennen to keep the VFX it had in the first preview video, so that you can see his pose better? > > https://youtu.be/s_3Skqi5uuM A great improvement! I think that Super Kennen should make it easier to see the slight movement in this updated E since his pose is a feature of the skin, but still try to retain the VFX shape to the original? Overall, amazing work! Can't wait to play Kennen after this!
: Weird Summoner Icon? Can't find it in the list.
It's a Noxian banner in the 'Jungles' near Shurima. It released when Neeko was released and you get it by playing as either Neeko, Nidalee, Zyra or Rengar, who all reside in the jungle. It also ties into the story "At the Edge of the World"
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: They secretly improved Blitzcrank's laugh ;)
Thats been a thing for a while. The videos of his laugh you are talking about are probably pretty old
QMighty (NA)
: Morgana and Kayle are probably still a month away
Personally I feel like they could still be next PBE cycle. It's a little strange for him to mention more Morgana kit changes _now,_ but maybe he's reffering to smaller QoL changes, just a few more extra details before they ship the Twins?
: Visual Effect Updates: Kennen, Olaf, Wukong and Riven
Love all of these! My only suggestion is maybe add a sort of blurry, vibration effect to Kennen's E? It looks a little strange for this small lightning hamster to just T Pose and float slowly at you with lighting shoot out of his body. It should look more like he's constantly moving, even when idle in his E form.
: It would be nice to see Kennen get a Visual Update
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Ink Rose (NA)
: Is Lux no longer a "Demacian Secret Agent"?
Demacia has no 'secret mage organization'. This has been apparent for 2 years now.
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Terozu (NA)
: Swain foreshadowed Sylas.
I don't think *that's* what was foreshadowing Sylas. If anything, his quote to Galio is what more or less foreshadowed Sylas, as it hinted at Durand having secrets. "His secrets died with his sculptor."
: How massive was Jarvan I's head?
I wouldn't be surprised if the crown was sort of...bent and stretched in some forge to fit Sion's jaw.
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