: An Attempt At: Making Stormrazor less toxic and giving it some of Infinity Edge's old feel.
I like the direction you're taking this, and I think stormrazer needs to be changed, but here's food for thought on why this new proposition is a bad idea. Say every silver player's favorite champion {{champion:157}} get this item, and decides to buy stormrazer, phantom dancer, infinity edge, and statik shiv. Yasuo already has reduced efficiency when you scale his passive with new infinity edge since his new two item spike is 120% crit, but this would cancel out that effect and make him a critical strike stacking monster. Yasuo as of right now, unless called for, more or less always gets a starter item straight into a phantom dancer. after he does this, with this new item, he would build this second or third, meaning his 60% crit bonus would be giving him 60% more damage every 4 hits, or in other words, a 15% damage boost overall, not accounting for the already existing crit, which would make his auto attacks even stronger. Then you build an infinity edge and and all the sudden you get 220% damage every fourth auto, and 10% of that is converted into true damage as well, plus his already strong late game with having 100% crit with attack damage and attack speed. then after that, what's going to stop him from getting a statik shiv? First auto attack procs shiv passive, which also can crit, does 10% true damage because of infinity edge, and increases the bonus damage he does every fourth auto to 280%, where 10% is true damage. Combine this with press the attack, which does burst damage every third auto and increases any subsequent damage by 12%. So lets do some math here, at late game when you have 4 items, not counting boots, you not only have extremely cheap items, the average price being around 2800 gold, you get 100% crit chance, 105% bonus attack speed (140% with boots), 10% bonus movement speed, 120 attack damage, 10% of damage converted to true damage, a 280 damage 5 target burst on first attack, 12% bonus damage to a target after three hits, with another 180 damage burst attached after landing said 3 hits, 12% damage reduction from the enemy you are attacking, 7% movement speed while near enemy champions you are fighting, and with the new passive you're suggesting, every 4th hit, which by the way would scale with press the attack 12% damage boost, would do ONE-HUNDRED AND EIGHTY PERCENT BONUS DAMAGE. not to mention that it would encourage people to auto attack minions 3 times, then just flat out all in the enemy with their free first crit and subsequent crits. Hell, if I was playing yasuo with this item, I would buy rapid firecannon as well just to fucking do it and one shot literally anyone while having 2.50 attack speed. AND LETS NOT EVEN MENTION HOW BROKEN THIS WOULD BE ON TRYNDAMERE.
: Shows what you know. I'm just bad, not color-blind.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bronze5Gamble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KI8cghgP,comment-id=000a00010000,timestamp=2018-10-19T01:40:32.855+0000) > > I don't mean to sound rude, but you certainly assume a lot about colorblind people with this comment. I've played the game for 4 years now, and I've very well considered how skillshots just might be hard to see and dodge, but even when accounting for that, the problem where a skillshot and the terrain appear to be the same exact color is still a problem that isn't fixed, and that's not caused by them being hard to see. ?? and what make you think that particular visual is more visible our end? for all you know w/e visual your thinking of could be just as hard for the rest of us to see as you? u say i find certain visuals hard to see. and u want people to find them and post what they find hard to see. ok then.. do that. then you can ask all us not color blind people if its any easier. certain skillshot can be hard to see.. not very many, but a few skins the visual doesn't match https://youtu.be/rGjYi0eVyBc?t=61 take a good look.. its not JUST YOU.. u act as if riot isn't considering if stuff is hard to see.. they are.. and they have doing a very good job at fixing them this is to do with "non colorblind" if u start taking into account "colorblind" outside of the already 2 preexisting color blind modes... it would get absurd again u assumed i didn't do any research. that i don't know what i'm talking about. that i dont have expereince with this becuase i am not colorblind.. again my dad is R/G color blind... and my mom is EYE DOCTOR.
Yes, I know that some skins are harder to see than others, that's not what i'm saying. As per what makes me think it's more visible on your end is the part where you can see the color. I thought that was obvious, but I guess not. I don't really have much more to say because it doesn't seem like anything is actually getting through to you. Plus, I don't really care about what your father and mother are, because that says nothing about YOU and YOU are the one posting. What do YOU know about this? You do a bit of research because your parent's might know a thing or two about this? How much? You have normal color vision so clearly you can't SEE what i'm tlaking about. You aren't your mother nor your father, nor do you have any valuable input in this conversation. {{sticker:zombie-brand-clap}}
: Tbh i thought you were shit posting because this looks like 1 of those shitty ads on the side of your screen. Honestly tho i feel like this might be an issue but most the people voting yes to the poll are people looking for another reason to blame for their own shittyness at the game
I've heard a lot of people say that some people are just going to blame their poor decision making on this, but at this point what don't they already blame.
: Tfw you read so many troll posts that every post you run into starts to feel like a troll post.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bronze5Gamble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KI8cghgP,comment-id=00210000,timestamp=2018-10-18T20:09:03.551+0000) > > As someone with this condition, I find it hard to believe I would misunderstand it. > > When talking to others, I call myself colorblind just because it's simpler and easier to understand than "color deficient", it's not that I'm trying to lie to anyone as much as it is that I'm trying to make it easier to get the point across. I think the people you're referencing that have poor color vision who call themselves colorblind might fall into this category as well, and some might just be liars, but it's hard to tell sometimes since it's so easy to fake your own perception. > > When you say "nobody sees color perfectly", you're not entirely wrong, but there is a norm when it comes to measuring color vision, and most people meet this norm. You're only considered color impaired if you fall far enough below this norm. This problem is genetic though, so there's only so much that can be on a spectrum, genetically speaking it's either you have it, you have it halfway, or you don't have it, but there are also other factors which can affect how strongly it affects you, such as the condition of your eyes and whether or not you've had any injuries. I'm not trying to say you are lying, but it's so tempting in science to make everything simple and unintentionally spread miss information. In science/medcine, norm may differ by region. Communication require the same understand about certain base. Many people including myself experienced something similar, where we got hit too frequently by certain champion skillshot/skin. After reading your post, they could tell thyemself : "I'm maybe a little color impaired". But is that really color impaired? Is it maybe she skillshot itself is not visible (too thin, same color as its background). Is it because my monitor use a blue filtrer that alter color? Or am I just not paying attention enough? Personnaly I usually get hit by Lux Q and karthus Q and If I don't pretend to be colorblind, everyone in my game think I'm inting, but on good days when I'm very focused this does not happen, and yes I use blue filtrer. One easy way to find out if you are "true color blind". Open paint. Fill the screen of red (255,0,0) then green (0,255,0) then blue (0,0,255). If none of these color are black to you, then you can slighly see the color meaning you are not "true colorblind". True color blind will see one of these color as much as normal people see ultra-red, nothing.
You bring up good points, and I respect your opinion. It seems you have thought about this quite a bit, and I think the exhaustion factor definitely impacts ability. Maybe if we focus too much on this topic, people will actually start to blame something they don't have as well, and that's another good point. The argument I have for that, though, is that there are still problems that colorblind people face in the game which others do not. My post is trying to solve those problems specifically, and isn't trying to touch on the generalized topic. Also you misunderstand something, if someone is colorblind, even completely colorblind, they don't see black when seeing pure red, blue, green, etc. light. Not to mention that your monitor can't even produce pure color light. Here's a link to a photo set on imgur that compares an RGB block which is changed to represent each type of colorblindness I just made. https://imgur.com/a/YE1kmxP
JoZee II (NA)
: I don't know if I can say if its the reason, sometimes I just feel like my reaction speed is terrible, even for a gold player, but I *am* diagnosed to be color deficient, it was bad enough that it nearly ended my military career before it started, so definitely not a minor amount. If its *very* obvious color differences, I dont think its an issue, but subtle color things sometimes throw me off. I mostly rely off prediction to try and avoid stuff in game. Seems to work. Haha Would be kind of interesting if this was the cause of me not reacting normally to certain spells when I do really well against others.
I'm sorry to hear about your history with the military, I hope that you got out okay, because it sounds like there must have been some close call. I can't tell you if that's the reason why you have bad matchups, but keep it in mind, because it could be. I also have to rely on predictions very often, and I'm in gold as well, but I end up getting hit by the dumbest stuff and end up feeding champions that aren't even that strong in the meta and it feels terrible.
: even with color blind assist I cant see some things one of the reasons i need it is because if i dont have it on i cant see {{champion:27}} poison when hes on grass its also hard for me to see {{champion:143}} E the only way im really able to juke this ability is because of the loud noise and the telegraphed animation she has when casting it
Me too. {{champion:27}} poison is so horrible to try and see. Even when you have colorblind mode on, if you have tritanamalous type color blindness, I bet the purple is hard to see in the river as well, so you can't even use that.
: Painting of Xayah
Wow, very nice. I'm not much of a background artist, but maybe you could paint your interpretations of their home lands. If you painted her body I think it would look very nice as well, but I understand how different painting profiles and figures are.
: It was quite sometime back. I do not recall the page of what it was. Also you probably saw my "just waking up typing" which is about as bad as drunk typing haha.
I understand that feeling lol. I'm not going to blame you for not remembering but thank you for getting back to me.
: Wait you mean to tell me they actually render? Because I legit do not see them AT ALL when she's using the nature or light variants.
: the issue with Lux is Hitboxes, nothing other than this. The visual dosnt match with the real hitbox
That might still be a problem but it's not what we're adressing in this thread.
: > [{quoted}](name=Onandaga,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KI8cghgP,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2018-10-18T02:34:01.112+0000) > > OP should get a job writing clickbait articles. He seems to be doing that rather well with this thread. and its funny how people votevote my post when i post thing logical. riot has a COLORBLIND MODE.. if your color blind USE IT. and yeah i DO know about different types of "colorblindness" my mom is optometrist and my dad is colorblind. i know exactly how this fucking works.. and i explains why they CAN'T do this i mean sure there are some visual they could change to make easier to see, but that has nothing to do with colorblindness. they're just hard to see.. and like i said.. riot MADE a color blind mode already in fact they have TWO separate color blind modes for different versions of colorblindness. riot has already gone _above and beyond _on the topic of colorblindness. WAY more that most game dev do and u get people like th OP complain that "they cant dodge the skillshot" because thier "color blind"? WHAT do u want riot to do? they CAN'T make things more visible, because having skillshot more visible on colorblind mode would make non colorblind people turn on colorblind mode.. its _really_ that simple. _every single thread_ i have ever seen on the league forums except 2 that has complain about getting hit by a skillshot was CLEARLY hit by the skillshot or was a 50/50 that could have easily gone either way. there have 2 two posts where the skillshot clearly missed, but those have been few and far between.. i have in fact seen MUCH more videos of people posting "why didnt this skillshot hit" when the skillshot model goes directly through the champion model. at the end of the day... riot cant change anything, and they _shouldn't_ change anything.. they have _already_ gone above and beyond what is expected of them.
I don't mean to sound rude, but you certainly assume a lot about colorblind people with this comment. I've played the game for 4 years now, and I've very well considered how skillshots just might be hard to see and dodge, but even when accounting for that, the problem where a skillshot and the terrain appear to be the same exact color is still a problem that isn't fixed, and that's not caused by them being hard to see.
: the issue with Lux is Hitboxes, nothing other than this. The visual dosnt match with the real hitbox
I would agree if I was able to see her E while it was sitting on the ground undetonated.
Asudurga (NA)
: I have issues with different effects that-. Well, it's hard to describe, it's like the hitbox doesn't match the model for my perception. Deathsworn Zed's Q for example. Pool Party Ziggs' Q looks so jittery for someone like me.
There are issues with the hitboxes of certain skins, which I think is what you're talking about, but there's also the factor that your monitor might not be good for gaming. If Ziggs' Q looks jittery to you, I assume you might have either screen tearing, low framerate, bad latency, or bad screen type. Feel free to ignore the following, but I figured that since that sounds a lot like a performance issue instead of a personal issue, I would offer some problems and solutions to help you out if you need it. **__________________________________** There are a lot of factors that can play into this, but if you're having a jitter problem, I suggest you look at whether or not you have a monitor that is interlace first. These monitors are labeled with an i at the end of the resolution instead of a p, and can cause this. Playing at a resolution that is different from your monitor can also cause problems, so make sure that you match your settings to what your hardware can handle, and Fullscreen mode always helps performance, though it can sometimes cause problems if it freezes and you only have one monitor. Framerate you can see in game, so if you're having jitters maybe check it and see if it's dipping lower than normal, but if you have a framerate of 60-100 or more this isn't typically the issue. If you do have low framerate, you might need a new graphics card, or if you have an ok graphics card with at least 3gb VRAM and a decent refresh rate, it might also be your processor, though 100% you should look to change your graphics card first if this is a problem. I recommend the GTX 1050 if budget is an issue since they're one of the most cost efficient graphics cards on the market right now. Another issue is screen tearing which you can get from not having VSync turned on. If you have VSync off because it lowers your framerate, just know that lowering your framerate can be the solution to the problem you're having, and is the purpose of VSync, because if the frames don't match how fast your monitor refreshes it's picture, your monitor will start to mess up the picture quality. VSync stands for "Vertical Sync", and it makes the framerate of your game match the refresh rate of your monitor, so that your game changes the picture at the same rate that your monitor changes its picture, so that you don't get any desync. Lastly is the latency issue, which is a problem with your connection to the servers, and can be a problem if you're using WIFI or have a poor connection. The solution to this is sometimes just getting a new internet provider, but a lot of people can't really do that. If other devices in your home don't have any issues with the internet, though, it might also be your WIFI chip, Ethernet cable, Router, or in the worst case your motherboard's Ethernet port. If it's one of these then you need to replace it, but it should work fine after that. If the problem is with you wifi chip or your router, switching to an Ethernet cable will also solve these problems. **__________________________________**
: You have some missunderstand about the subject. What do you mean by color impared? Because technically, nobody see color perfectly. Almost every colorblind person can actually see all color, it's just one of the color are so impared they call themselves colorblind.
As someone with this condition, I find it hard to believe I would misunderstand it. When talking to others, I call myself colorblind just because it's simpler and easier to understand than "color deficient", it's not that I'm trying to lie to anyone as much as it is that I'm trying to make it easier to get the point across. I think the people you're referencing that have poor color vision who call themselves colorblind might fall into this category as well, and some might just be liars, but it's hard to tell sometimes since it's so easy to fake your own perception. When you say "nobody sees color perfectly", you're not entirely wrong, but there is a norm when it comes to measuring color vision, and most people meet this norm. You're only considered color impaired if you fall far enough below this norm. This problem is genetic though, so there's only so much that can be on a spectrum, genetically speaking it's either you have it, you have it halfway, or you don't have it, but there are also other factors which can affect how strongly it affects you, such as the condition of your eyes and whether or not you've had any injuries.
: I don't know what I am. I feel like I can see every color but I just can't name them Doctors tell me I'm R/G color deficient But it doesn't make sense to me because I figured that just meant I had problems with red and green But I got problems with blue & purple, green & red, green & brown, etc. Basically anything that are similar in shade, I'll just confuse with one another. If you were to put cars of similar colors next to each other and told me which was which, I couldn't tell you which was which the next day if you shuffled them around for example I also remember on my job as well that I would often just not see a blinking light in the corner of my eye because it would flash a dull color in a dull background and basically just blend in with its surroundings till someone made me look at it directly xD
I can relate. Any kind of blinking light in the corner of my eye is almost transparent it feels.
: Good point on the correction: I oversimplified since it's ALMOST never female since you have to get it twice (like 0.03% of 0.03%), still with 8bn people, it happens quite a bit. According to every partner I've had they all had tetrachomacy, like "chiffon" is a real colour ;) /sarcasm
I don't get those people at all lol... Here I am sitting pretty with my lack of color and these people are talking about how they see rainbows in different dimensions.
: I'll just go cry in a corner and blame hitboxes
: Another answer could be ping that delays everything.
For some maybe, but I personally still have this problem and my ping is as low as 30 some days.
: I can hardly see Elementalist Lux's spells... And I am playing on colorblind mode.
: Upvote for awareness.
: A lot of these champs are used by scripters as well. Lux and Xerath are both script champs.
YES. THIS. I've fought against a scripting Xerath only twice, and Lux once, not counting the other champions i've been scripted on with. I have to say, fighting against them honestly made me want to rip my hair out and cry. It feels almost like you're being waterboarded because you can't see whats happening, but you know that something bad is going to happen soon.
: It would be nice to have some help with this type of crap. I remember one time I was scrolling through some post on league explaining how the rift and some champion abilities look to people with X deficiency/blindness. When I got to the red deficiency I saw a few photos and was like "That looks normal to me...oh...well that would explain why people tell me that those are really easy to see." Edit: 20 years old at that point and league is what showed me I have a red deficiency.
A little awkward wording, but I think I understand what you mean. If you know what page you saw that on, I wouldn't mind checking it out if it was still up.
: The title sounds like a virus add
Well, you clicked on it so maybe you should be more careful in your internet searches lmfao.
: {{champion:99}} gonna be honest this champs Elementalist skin is just bogus, you don't need to be colorblind the hitbox on that Q leaves me scratching me head at least 4 or 5 times when i play against it Some of these new skis are just straight up ridiculous with the particle spam. Like if anyone could honestly tell me without cheating which champ is in this Yorick cage i would be shocked. [https://imgur.com/a/fZBeAI4](https://imgur.com/a/fZBeAI4)
Wow... I can't even tell, I would say maybe maokai? But he would be big enough to see, I assume.
: Even for people without any problems related to color vision, you can't see something that "hit" you if Riot codes their hitbox like monkeys on keyboards
Hitboxes can be a problem, but that isn't what this post is trying to help out with, although I wouldn't mind seeing some changes to the iffier hitboxes.
: Huh. I came here expecting a troll post and found something educational instead. I wish this happened more often
: > [{quoted}](name=Bronze5Gamble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KI8cghgP,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-18T00:49:55.244+0000) > > There are 3 different types of colorblindness, two of which have different intensities. Just to correct and expand on this we have: Tritanomaly (the middle blues and greens are one color) Tritanopia (blue/green are the same colour, think: every blue and every green is seen as turquoise) Protanomaly (Yellow and green are less bright) - This one is usually the one nobody notices - For men only (x-linked disorder) Protanopia (red is black, orange yellow and green look yellow) - This one is dude only too Deuteranomaly (yellow and green look redder and violet and blue merge) - This one is dude-only (X chromosome linked) Deuteranopia (Red is browny yellow, green is beige) - dudes only Cone monochromacy - Double colourblindness, pick 2 of the above, combine effects. (guys only due to 2/3 being x- linked only) Rod monochomacy - Full black white and grey - Hella rare, different cause from the above so everyone can have it. So there are 8, only 7 are really distinct as one is a combo. Since red (the protos) is the most common, most "colorblind modes" are targeted to that one. This means that people (like the Lux player in the comments who can't see when they blend in to the ground) who have one of the trits (since she's female) get almost nothing out of colorblind mode.
Great expansion, although x-linked color disorders aren't male only, but they are much much more common in men. The gene that perceives these colors is a recessive gene on the x chromosome, so women, if they have one from both parents, can still have these conditions, but they are much more rare. Some women actually have whats called "Tetrachromacy" which means that they can even see additional colors when compared to normal women, too. Also, might I add, I didn't actually know that Tritanomaly existed, I thought Trianopia was absolute.
: This is slightly off-topic, but while I don't think I am color impaired, I noticed I tend to be much worse at dodging skillshots when playing against someone with a fancy skin (which has different ability animations and colors). It's just that I'm used to, for example, Lux Q looking a certain way and having a certain cast animation, and if the animation is different and the particles are different, or the color, I might not be able to tell whether it's a Q, W or E until it's too late to dodge it. This is especially problematic when the champion in question is NOT the one I'm laning against, because I can't get used to their visuals until I'm balls deep in a teamfight.
That is a very good point, and I as well have trouble when I'm fighting someone who is using a skin I'm not used to. However, there is a difference between not being adjusted to something, and not being able to adjust to it. I am a person who is Color Impaired, as you might assume. I have a form of impairment that reduces the intensities of red colors comparatively to normal vision. Because of this I don't know what normal color vision looks like, and the best I can do is assume, so there's a limit to how much I can understand about the problems normal vision people have. From my personal experience, adjusting to a new skin's animations and particles is not proportionate when compared to a very similar skin (Elementalist Lux), where the only major difference is the colors. I do sympathize with you, though.
Onandaga (NA)
: OP should get a job writing clickbait articles.
I knew nobody would read this if I made a boring title, so no joke I did a bit of research on clickbait and I'm so sorry for it but it's the only way this would have gotten any attention lol. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: You didn't explain at all how being color impaired would affect your ability to see certain skillshots.
Thank you for letting me know, I didn't even notice. I've updated it, and it now says how Color Impaired people have a harder time telling the AOE of a skill apart from the surrounding area. I had assumed it was implied, but once I read over it again, I see that I didn't directly mention it. Keep in mind that it's also an individual problem, and some people may experience it differently than others, so I only shortly addressed it in a general way so that it doesn't specify one type of impairment and can instead apply to all types.
: Reaction time is a skill. If you have poor reaction time, you will always be bad at action games of any kind. Talking about reaction time for a gamer is like talking about foot speed for an athlete. You will always be bad at it if you are lacking. People are not created equally (good thing too, it would be a boring world if we were). If you are bad at the game because of poor reaction time then either accept that you are bad and continue being bad or move to a different genre that isn't so reaction speed intensive.
True, but I think he's not necessarily talking about poor reaction speed as a trait, but more about poor reaction speed caused specifically by some sort of condition. Sort of like how if you cripple your hand your skill as a carpenter would be affected; while it's not specifically the person who is "just bad" at it, it still causes a decrease in ability.
nobotninja (EUNE)
: I may not be either of those mentioned, but I know I have trouble _always _seeing certain skin-lines. Again, it might have nothing to do with what you mentioned, but I've found these (from the top of my head) troublesome: Pulsefire (?) {{champion:4}} W and ulti Lunar Wraith {{champion:51}} traps (I've had matches where I didn't see them placed under me) Death Sworn (?) {{champion:112}} E Riot seem to really like these light blue-ish colours, but they can get lost in every other particule effect. I'm not too content with the new {{champion:45}} effects either, but whatever. Also, I'd like to add my own thoughts about it that might affect the "that did not hit me": * It might have to do with the whole game being asymmetrical, so... what if the maps/angles need to be slightly adjusted (after testing whether it's possible and/or even needed). I've always thought that this could affect it and I can hit more specific skillshots on a certain side. E.g. I seem to perform better with {{champion:99}} on the right side of ARAM. * FPS- or ping lags, spikes. There are days when the EUNE server goes crazy and I have lower FPS, or much higher ping, and that definitely doesn't allow me to see the skillshot the moment it happens. I don't have a history of colour blindness or impairedness, but I know from experience there's certain spectrum (so to say) between shades of pink and purple and not good at differentiating.
I appreciate the input, and the ideas that the camera angle could be affecting this and the "that did not hit me" effect you described that I know oh so well, however the issue with color impairment is that even if there is a skillshot, Karma R+Q, Lux E, or Soraka Q, for example, with an otherwise clear indicator on the ground that isn't visible to some people, and that is the problem I am trying to address here. I appreciate you reading this over, though. If you haven't input on the poll yet, whether it be yes or no, I would appreciate your opinion.
: So that's how all of my adcs keep getting snared and hooked.
Lol. I wonder if i'll start to see ADC's saying they're colorblind when they're not just to make an excuse.
: Sometimes I cant see skill shots if they are in the lower corner of my screen. Same with the health shrines on aram. I think it might just be some kind of glitch tho. I just dont pay attention to the lower corners often
A separate problem, but maybe you can submit a ticket to riot support and help them fix the bug. I know that sometimes the health packs in ARAM don't spawn for me either, so it's not only you, however that isn't the main point of this thread so it may not be relevant.
: > [{quoted}](name=Bronze5Gamble,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=KI8cghgP,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2018-10-18T00:49:55.244+0000) > > The problem lies with colorblind mode not changing the colors to ones that are visible to certain types of color blindness. There are 3 different types of colorblindness, two of which have different intensities. One single colorblind mode is not good enough to match these problems, and certain skins don't even change their colors while colorblind mode is turned on. Well what do u want riot to do? u cant just make enemy abilities _hypervisble_ in colorblind mode or people who ARN'T colorblind will turn it on to get a massive advantage. i mean if u mad every skillshot in colorblind mode as visible as super galaxy nid spear, you would be an idiot to NOT run on colorblind mode. as it would give u a HUGE advanatge
I see your point, but there are distinct differences between normal color vision and color impaired vision, and solutions to help specifically color impairment would have little to no benefit, if done correctly, to those who do not have the same disadvantage. It's also worth pointing out that if there would be a problem with giving everyone an even advantage, it never hurts to make the skillshot easy for everyone to see without the use of colorblind mode, so that nobody has an advantage.
Infernape (EUW)
: Tbh Elementalist Lux is kinda funny in ARAM. Her abilities are a goddamn pain to see against the whites/blues of the Abyss. And I know I'm not colour impaired because I get tested for it every year.
Comforting to hear that we're not the only ones with problems then lol.
: This is not just an excuse. It's a real problem that affects players. In addition to Color Impairment, slow reaction times because of nerve damage and age can also affect the dodging of skill shots. But of course, you can totally say that someone is a bad player for something they can't control.
Agreed, but since we can't fix aging or nerve damage here, unfortunately we can't propose a solution.
: How about add an optional post-processing mode that outlines everything in black "ink" This would give a general solution to people who need it without requiring a redo of tons of ability particles.
I don't think they should add it to the character inking setting, because that might not work well with everyone setup, but I do very much like the idea of having this be a setting.
: .... you know i thought he was going to say something logical like... idk "you live in a part of the country further from the sever and have greater ping so u have less time to react" i can tell u when i lived in Michigan for a few months it was a million times easier to dodge skillshot than it is now im back in CA. but honestly? THEY HAVE A COLOR BLIND MODE!!! TURN IT ON!!! or maybe.. just maybe, your _bad_ bat dodging skillshots. that ever cross your mind. do you HONESTLY think the skillshot matches the visual for EVERY skin on EVERY champsion? the visual width has _nothing_ to do with the skillshot width. i-blitz hook has a visual width of 40 and a actaul width of 130 open the game.. select the champ.. and when u press the skillshot button (before u click again to then throw the skillshot) it will show you the width of the skillshot. THAT width shown there is the ONLY width that matters, _not_ the visual projectile shown. certain skins do have an advantage yes superb villan viegar's "dark matter" the visual indicator that of where its going to fall comes later than with the other skins, making it much harder to dodge than his other skins. but skins like that are banned from pro play, and every new skin release is done so they wont be an issue, and when the chain in question gets a VGU it is addressed. other skillshot like headhunter nid spear is MUCH harder to see.. where as super galaxy nid, is literally completely fucking impossible to NOT see.. is is highly detremental the the person playing nid as the skillshot is SO FUCKING OBVOIUS.
The problem lies with colorblind mode not changing the colors to ones that are visible to certain types of color blindness. There are 3 different types of colorblindness, two of which have different intensities. One single colorblind mode is not good enough to match these problems, and certain skins don't even change their colors while colorblind mode is turned on.
: The Reason You're Not Able to Dodge Skillshots Could be this Surprizingly Common Problem.
For me, there are problems with the following champions: (Certain abilities and skins may or may not be listed due to failure to remember. This list includes some abilities which may not effect gameplay. Does not include problems already fixed with current colorblind mode.) 1. {{champion:266}} Aatrox: Q, W on skins: Sea Hunter Aatrox, Justicar Aatrox. The color blends in with the grassy terrain. 2. {{champion:69}} Cassiopia: E on certain skins, however is not a skillshot and has no cooldown so is expected with every encounter. 3. {{champion:42}} Corki: Q on certain skins 4. {{champion:120}} Hecarim: W on all skins, but is not a skillshot 5. {{champion:74}} Heimerdinger: Q on all skins: The bullets blend in with the ground on certain areas of the map., but is not a skillshot 6. {{champion:59}} Jarvan IV: E on base skin, : The color blends with the ground. 7. {{champion:43}} Karma: R+Q combo on base skin: Color blends with the ground for a short while 8. {{champion:10}} Kayle: E on base skin: Color blends with ground, but the change to a ranged auto attack makes this irrelevant. Also is not a skillshot 9. {{champion:240}} Kled: W on all skins: Hard to see the indicator for when his W has charged up, but is not a skillshot 10. {{champion:7}} Leblanc: E on base skin: Color blends with ground, but the shape of the skillshot is more or less distinguishable and is not usually a problem. 11. {{champion:89}} Leona: R on all skins: Color blends with ground 12. {{champion:99}} Lux: Q,W,E on most skins and most Elementalist Lux Variations: The biggest problem of them all, the colors bled in with the ground and the transparency makes these skillshots nearly invisible. 13. {{champion:555}} Pyke: R on both skins: The indicator can be hard to see if not focusing on it due to color. 14. {{champion:15}} Sivir: W on base skin: Hard to see bounces while not focusing on them, but also is not a skillshot 15. {{champion:101}} Xerath: E on skins Runeborn Xerath, Guardian Of The Sands Xerath: color blends with ground 16. {{champion:143}} Zyra: E on most skins: blends with ground
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