Tomeksz (EUNE)
: This week's roadmap won't be as exciting as previous ones imo, cuz we already know the next VGU {{champion:20}}. Im still hyped tho, just hoping that Reav3 will suprise us again with some additional teasers. :)
Seeing the teaser for the next champion could be really exciting though.
: Skins writer here. In the Battlecast universe, Victor has killed off most of the world's living organisms and transplanted their brains into his robots. Most, if not all, of the void creatures are extinct. That is the Battlecast alternate universe. Arclight is a different universe where Vel'Koz is an inter-dimensional god-entity who bestows powers on worthy humans.
Do you know if we can expect any more skin lore in next week's pbe patch?
: I _love_ writing for that universe. Officially it's called Event Horizon, and includes Cosmic and Dark Star. Interesting story: I don't just do the writing, but also the patch implementation for each bundle of text. The engineers here are still helping me learn how that works (shoutout to our extremely patient engineers), so if some descriptions don't get into a patch it's because I messed something up as I learn to use the system. Technically it's supposed to be at least a small handful (around 20 minimum, up to a maximum of 60) every patch.
Out of curiosity, is the Dreadnova line shared by the GG Miss Fortune and Bullet Angel Kai'Sa universe? Any others in that one if so?
: Sadly, no. But I think you'll like the descriptions and GP/Darius' place in the universe.
Ah, I see. By the way, the reason I'm interested is that I made a little personal gamble that whatever the next Dreadnova skin is, I'll buy it and the champ it's for.
: Dreadnova is incoming ;)
:O Could this hint at an upcoming Dreadnova skin to bring it to a nice 3? Hmmm...
: Skins writer here. Glad you like these! Generally speaking I get assigned a few skin sets every patch to write bios for, but I'd be curious to know which ones you're most interested in seeing.
> [{quoted}](name=Carnival Knights,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=RiwuxzRZ,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2018-03-12T18:14:10.438+0000) > > Skins writer here. Glad you like these! Generally speaking I get assigned a few skin sets every patch to write bios for, but I'd be curious to know which ones you're most interested in seeing. What about Warden/Marauder, Dreadnova, or Deathsworn?
: The current lore is canon. :-) But it sounds more like you want a dispassionate list of facts, like an encyclopedia? We're not going to provide that in the foreseeable future. Riot is focused on worldbuilding through storytelling (and gaming), and experiencing things through the eyes of meaningful characters with meaningful relationships to their world. People have beliefs, and subjective points of view. Those should come across in authentic storytelling. :-)
Would you be able to say what Cho'Gath's current role is? is he still the freakish yet cunning Void "general"? His design looks like it could much benefit from the new Void art style.
: Now I'm on Champions team I'm actually helping out with skin updates, so at last the puzzle will be complete :)
Will Akali's update be the last of the Blood Moons, or can we expect more? I do enjoy this theme, I just wish more mages got one. Blood Moon Zilean is easily the best skin for Zil.
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: Personally, I ship Taliyah x Ekko over Jinx x Ekko, more fun story material.
> [{quoted}](name=FauxSchizzle,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=y1e1fNAz,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2018-02-19T03:39:45.471+0000) > > Personally, I ship Taliyah x Ekko over Jinx x Ekko, more fun story material. Same. Tech prodigy x magic prodigy, I love that idea.
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: Since Swain got a really good skin along with his rework
I'm pretty sure it was just a special case because 1. Swain had gone six years without a skin and 2. Dragon Master had literal years of hype behind it.
Cabruh (NA)
: Everyone else has been getting skins
He'll be getting one soon, check this out. https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/7ft09x/possible_upcoming_skins/ This guy has been using champs that have been recently converted to a new file format to predict who's getting skins. So far he's been completely correct since he made the post a couple months ago, and Heimerdinger is the only one left that he predicted.
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: Short, realistic answer? Writer/editor bandwidth. Before I got here (January 2017) there wasn't any kind of storytelling plan beyond "a bio and a color story for every new champion, and a short story whenever we can fit it in". Now we've got more Rioters in Narrative, and we're looking ahead to more ways we can get interaction with champions, as well as characters in the lore who aren't champions. The short story 'The Principles of Strength' is a good example - Swain and Darius (and "the Faceless"...?!) plus a few more, in an illustration of how Noxus works, politically, through actual storytelling instead of info-dump. We're going to keep leveling up, and linking more and more of our champions to the "now" in Runeterra. If there's a reason to tell a story with Tahm Kench, we will absolutely do so. :-)
Hey Scathe, if I could offer something, I think what Swain lacks that might be necessary is any kind of relationship with another champ. For example, Eve is a very similar character, but she directly affected Vayne in the new lore and could be considered her nemesis. Tahm doesn't really have that, a character who he has affected that makes him a real villain in someone's story. Maybe even if *his* lore isn't really added onto, maybe he could be expanded on in another character's lore, even a character whose lore is a bit outdated and could use an update.
: Thank you for reaching out! Soraka is definitely on my personal priority list for lore update. It was promised before I arrived at Riot, and still nothing - I will push harder from this side... :-)
Would you maybe also be able to get some Tahm lore too? His character is interesting and has potential for his relationship for other characters, but he doesn't really seem to have any real relationships with other characters except Eve and maybe the Darkin, and he came out before a time where giving characters an actual long description was the usual, back when the new lore was still in development so he only got a paragraph really. For example, Evelynn has a relationship with Vayne because she's the catalyst behind Vayne's character for killing her parents, while Tahm hasn't really affected any in game champs. Do you know if we may get some more on him eventually?
: ROADMAP
So will this ADC be Kass's daughter, or a straight up Void monster? Any bets?
: Yeah, that's probably the best place to learn about the Black Rose.
Out of interest, and I'm not sure if you were involved in her lore, but does Irelia feel as apathetic towards Swain as he does towards her? Or does she regret him living and making it so high in the Noxian command? Also, will we see more of him in her lore? And as an small side thing, what would be Swain's views on Jhin?
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: I'm saying, everyone else in this thread is likely more experienced than me in playing League... but highly experienced players aren't the majority of players. Not by a long way. And I have to disagree that Swain has been made "more generic". The full champion lore (and his place in Noxus) is far more unique, and "uniquely League" than what existed before, IMO. :-) Also, he totally got a promotion. And people's hair can grow over time. :-P It does suck that you (and anyone else) feels that your dedication to a champion in the game has been devalued or undermined, and I feel bad for you. But I hope, in time, you'll give the new Grand General another chance to impress and intrigue you.
Honestly, I think this is my favourite remake you guys have ever done. Just played a PBE match and loved how he felt. My only confusion was the long hair on his base, it just seems unnecessary.
: I am sorry to the people who are not impressed about Swain, but I am loving everything about him.
Of course. Most of the complaints are just cosmetic, especially the hair. But the kit and voicelines are so fucking good.
Epicurus (OCE)
: I don't think Kalista actually hunts people unless someone (usually the one being betrayed) personally summons her. Kalista targeting those champions was probably just a marketing thing to hype up her release rather than any serious narrative event. Hecarim's the exception, as Kalista has a personal grudge against him. In her short story, the betrayed spear-wife summons Kalista by creating an effigy of the target and stabbing it with nails. In the video "the Pledge" the betrayed dude offers up his soul with his dying breath, and Kalista accepts the pact. So unless Shen or Sivir or Azir decide to sacrifice their souls, Kalista won't intervene with their feuds. Same goes for Swain. It would be pretty out of character for Urgot to summon Kalista, but Swain's probably betrayed a lot of people (du Couteau for example), so it's still possible that someone made the pact. Also, Kalista is probably confined to the Black Mist, just like the rest of the Shadow Islanders. So even if she is on the hunt, there are some limits to what she's capable of.
I agree. If Kalista was coming for literally everyone who betrays someone else, she'd be like a worldwide terror. Serious betrayal in a world like League if probably very common. It has to be very specific, with enough time for the victim to be ceremonious about it and also be willing to sacrifice their soul.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 16
Do you have an estimate for how many VGUs are planned for this year atm? So far we have Swain and Irelia, and I heard the team wants to focus VGUs this year, so could that mean 5 or more total in 2018?
Sharjo (EUW)
: Not a lore dude but I would've figured he was in his last forties at the youngest. I can't see Urgot as like younger than 45 the way he is presently.
I wonder if that's around the same age as new Swain, considering they're being set up as kind of arch rivals. At least from Urgot's point of view, I doubt Swain's paid attention to him since his betrayal.
: Sorry, I misspoke. He's a gameplay update, looking at the Champ Up page.
I think a lot of people kind of put him under VGU mistakenly because apparently he's getting new lines, which is mostly associated with full blown reworks more than gameplay updates.
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Meddler (NA)
: Quick Gameplay Thoughts: January 10
Hey Meddler, I know this isn't balance necessarily but can you say definitively whether Swain will be here before patch 8.4? The Swain community is kind of going nuts trying figure out if its just because there's still work being done on him, and whether we should rein in our excitement for a bit or begin getting hyped soon.
: Swain, where are you? We're ready to see you now! o.O
Really too bad that the Lunar Revel and Valentine's stuff didn't go on the pbe before holidays like last time. The Warwick VGU was a great way to start off 2017 but now it looks like we won't be getting Swain possibly for even a month. I have a lot of faith in Riot's Swain team, but everything on the whole being pushed back more than usual is kind of a hypekiller if they don't put out any teasers.
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: [Opinion] Urgot's rework is dope, but...
I mean, that's kind of what new Yorick's character theme is now.
: Mmm, I love the smell of crushed hopes and dreams in the mornin'
Isn't that what you get to experience every day when Riot doesn't put Morde up for a VGU.
Meddler (NA)
: It'll be fairly soon. We generally treat VGU teasers like new champ teasers, not giving away their exact dates or details ahead of time so I won't mention anything beyond fairly soon.
{{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}} I'll take your word for it.
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: Will he be younger? Will he have more hair on his head? Will he no longer need a cane to walk? Will he no longer have beatrice? And, Riot, if I am correct in all of these predictions, can I have a refund?
He at least will likely have a cane or limp, as his new brief lore blurb mentioned he was crippled in Ionia.
: I think that's Gentleman Cho'Gath, after drinking a spot of chamomile tea. Does wonders for Void in the throat.
If you could compare VGU Swain's voice to one person or character who would it be?
: This is really really really overreaching but I was watching Quas. Quas is a challenger level Swain main that I am certain he got invited to playtest new Swain. So there was this LeBlanc on his team and his voice got kind of caring when he spoke about LeBlanc like okay she will take bot. This implies there is something romantic between the two. Ignore me I am losing my sanity waiting for the rework.
Hey, I just posted a request for pointless trivia about the update of a character in a MOBA game. All Swain mains have lost our sanity at this point.
: You can hear his voice over in the new Runes randomizer. https://euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/page/forge-your-path-preseason-responsibly-2
Has that actually been confirmed or is that still just a fan theory?
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: While we haven't brought in any superstars, we've run a number of player labs for Swain that consisted of Swain mains and mage mains of various skill levels. Their feedback has proven super valuable in Swain's development. :)
I have an extremely important question about the update. Is he still rocking the blue triple Mohawk, or is that nixed? What's his head situation?
: > [{quoted}](name=Tialilia,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JjQEuhgJ,comment-id=00000003,timestamp=2017-11-28T19:17:20.734+0000) > > > > Zed's order is using a form of spirit magic, but how is it possible? A non-mage can't use magic > Hah! Nope. This aint lord of the rings! A wizard has a different, more studious, and analytical way of accessing magic — but arguably a shaman has a more inate connection to spirit magic. While warriors like Zed, Shen, and Kayn have studied a different way to access magical power— The strenght of the connection, the control, and the narrowness of focus are all important variables. (Annie has a lot of fire magic.. including summoning/binding a fire elemental— but she can’t do any ice, shadow or wind stuff and lacks control — vs Ryze who has a lot of control. )
> [{quoted}](name=WAAARGHbobo,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=JjQEuhgJ,comment-id=000000030000,timestamp=2017-11-29T03:56:51.124+0000) > > Hah! > Nope. > This aint lord of the rings! > > A wizard has a different, more studious, and analytical way of accessing magic — but arguably a shaman has a more inate connection to spirit magic. While warriors like Zed, Shen, and Kayn have studied a different way to access magical power— > > The strenght of the connection, the control, and the narrowness of focus are all important variables. > > (Annie has a lot of fire magic.. including summoning/binding a fire elemental— but she can’t do any ice, shadow or wind stuff and lacks control — vs Ryze who has a lot of control. ) Out of curiosity, Swain has been referred to as not a wizard, or a shaman, etc but explicitly as a warlock, which interests me. What defines a warlock to you when creating a character? What are the connotations that make Swain a warlock as opposed to another word for a mage?
: I prefer the Palpatine example. We've got enough intimidating fit big guys.
Yeah, and Swain's sorcery and nonthreatening physical look contrast with Darius' brutish fighting style and stature. Makes their alliance look very cool.
: Too late. Swain will be revealed way earlier than that.
Normally I wouldn't think so but the amount of art they've already released makes December look very possible.
Reav3 (NA)
: I didn't title the Swain section "The Cost of Ambition" for nothing :)
I just want to say I'm happy you decided to focus on the "warlock" archetype. When you think about it, League has many mage archetype characters like elementalists, liches, death knights, priests, etc but only Swain ever really had the feel of a dark sorcerer to me. The Disney/Final Fantasy transformation into a giant monster helped too. If you've tried to retain and improve upon that vibe I'm very excited.
Reav3 (NA)
: This is correct, that won't be his title but more the thematic direction we are going for. Swain won't be just some evil guy though, he just believes that sacrifices sometimes have to be made in order to achieve something truly great.
Will his own sacrifices play a big role in his character?
: Swain Rework Discussion
I think my biggest questions are 1. Is Swain's face still obscured? 2. Is he still crippled? 3. Does he still come from nothing, and had to rise through the ranks? Really liked this aspect of his old lore. 4. Does Beatrice still exist? We know Swain obviously still has his dark magic and ravens, but a distinctive bird was not seen in the art.
Reav3 (NA)
: This was done by 3rdCollosus He also did the base splash art for Yorick, Warwick, Galio and recently Urgot. He is doing Swains new Base splash as well.
Hey Reav, just a quick question. Is Swain still crippled or has that changed in the new vision of him?
: CANDY KING AZIR
Candy King Azir is a good idea, I'm a big fan of Candy King Tahm too.
: We got the Champion Roadmap guys!
That Swain illustration... _salivating intensifies_
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