: What do you consider to be the biggest issue with playing this game?
Wish I could vote for multiple. But basically, Way too high damage, Tanks not being tanky, Snowballing is insane, and (dunno if it counts) Riot's favoritism to champs that sell skins (riven, kai'sa, vayne etc.) I honestly never notice matchmaking issues often, maybe its more of a ranked thing I dunno.
: Riot, since you clearly don't understand, let me tell you exactly what you're missing.
I'd pay for custom announcers too, idk about map skins. Honestly they should just make new maps and game modes but noooo they dont make enough $$$ Coaching would be insane, but idk how the small indie company could pull it off. While a lot of people aren't exactly wrong (lots of my friends say this) by saying you don't NEED to buy eternals, you shouldn't have to pay for achievements period. I bet at this point you may as well bribe the balance team to balance the game considering they listen to the bills rather than the players that give a shit
: Pantheon Ult needs a change.
I don't have an issue with the ult, it looks badass and I see people hitting with ults MORE than before. People are whining because the old version of the champ was braindead and now they need to learn champ mechanics. I will say, once his numbers are balanced out (he seems pretty damn weak rn, that or everyone just sucks idk) then he'll be a successful rework.
: "We won't make video about rework champion " What you mean is we YOU are too lazy to actually work.
Damn, all the stuff that felt like authentic league back when I started is starting to fade away. Hasn't been a login screen dedicated to a new/reworked champ since Sylas if i'm not mistaken either. Unless you count arcade Qiyana being in the login screen, but that isn't really the same. The legendary skins are getting them over the champs at this point lmao. Both Jhin and Pyke got login screens. And now champ spotlights? Shoot it makes me think why I still play sometimes... Oh well, we got auto chess and paid achievements (the first I've ever encountered in my 15 years of gaming) to keep us tied over till the LC$ gets here.
OKIDJ (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Burns Master,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbsQRTiU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-14T16:11:53.903+0000) > > As for the Infernal ones, they look nice, though I feel like Shen is about to be nerfed for LC$. Maybe we'll see more Varus and Galio gameplay, provided they can pull the latter out of balance limbo Actually Shen is about to be buffed.
> [{quoted}](name=OKIDJ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbsQRTiU,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-08-15T00:42:03.080+0000) > > Actually Shen is about to be buffed. Then giving him a skin checks out
: > [{quoted}](name=Burns Master,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbsQRTiU,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-14T16:11:53.903+0000) > > I'd rather have Elderwood Yorick than that abomination Riot gave him on April Fool's. I'm indifferent on the skin lineup in terms of how they look, but Ornn should've got an Elderwood skin, or Kindred, hell even Bard, but oh well, they're not popular enough :p > > As for the Infernal ones, they look nice, though I feel like Shen is about to be nerfed for LC$. Maybe we'll see more Varus and Galio gameplay, provided they can pull the latter out of balance limbo Elderwood Bard would be such a cool skin! Imagine Bard made from wood, with a blue/purple cloak and two horns!
> [{quoted}](name=banjerlief,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbsQRTiU,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-14T16:42:56.036+0000) > > Elderwood Bard would be such a cool skin! Imagine Bard made from wood, with a blue/purple cloak and two horns! Bro Im fucking dense lmao
OKIDJ (NA)
: Elderwood Yorick would have made more sense, you get to summon treants and put people in a bramble wall that grows. Then you someone some sort of tree spirit to fight for you as your ult. But it doesn't make sense because this new elderwood theme does not fit the theme of the original Hecarim skin at all. They could have called it "Mystic wood" and it would have worked except for Ahri having a skin.
> [{quoted}](name=OKIDJ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jbsQRTiU,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-14T04:18:22.707+0000) > > Elderwood Yorick would have made more sense, you get to summon treants and put people in a bramble wall that grows. Then you someone some sort of tree spirit to fight for you as your ult. But it doesn't make sense because this new elderwood theme does not fit the theme of the original Hecarim skin at all. They could have called it "Mystic wood" and it would have worked except for Ahri having a skin. I'd rather have Elderwood Yorick than that abomination Riot gave him on April Fool's. I'm indifferent on the skin lineup in terms of how they look, but Ornn should've got an Elderwood skin, or Kindred, hell even Bard, but oh well, they're not popular enough :p As for the Infernal ones, they look nice, though I feel like Shen is about to be nerfed for LC$. Maybe we'll see more Varus and Galio gameplay, provided they can pull the latter out of balance limbo
Ieafboom (NA)
: In your opinion, who is the worst champ in the game to firstpick?
{{champion:136}} without a doubt. His kit just screams "pick a long range mage or any assassin" Which are both extremely popular. It's nice that we get counterplay, but 90% of the popular roster shouldn't be able to shit on one champ. Sure he had presence in pro play but then he was nerfed probably because it wasnt fla$hy enough.
Sprendel (NA)
: Disenchant All Button
Qol updates like these wouldn't be that difficult to do in theory, I wonder why this hasn't been made yet?
: Focus on Mini-VGU & Not on New Champions
With the Volibear lore changes making him some sorta lovecraft type monster bear rather than a golden compass bear, he'd NEED a VGU, not minor tweaks. I hope he's a contender for the next VGU guarantee vote because thats where my money is at right now. First champion I got to m7, and now he's a bad joke of a champ.
: Jesus Christ, just remove Tahm's ally Devour at this point.
It's obvious because he's a support that prevents people from "muh fla$hy plays" that he's getting shafted. Almost a literal troll champion at this point. He was never that insanely broken in my recollection anyways.
: God I have enought of favoritism toward popular champion to remain OP
Finally somebody who sees it. They want mobility, high damage, great skins to sell, and usually a combination of all three. Notice the lack of tanks on the list? Because they're all busy getting nerfed or having damage buffs instead of survivability.... A good example of favoritism is this guy: {{champion:83}} Is buffed and strong for like a patch or 2. Riot employee 1: Hey you know how we decided to buff Yorick? Riot employee 2: Yeah, I think he was in somewhat of a rough spot before, and we hope these changes will help with his quality of life. Riot employee 1: About that...you know he's not mobile nor does he sell lots of skins right? Riot employee 2: Oh god NERF HIM IMMEDIATELY* Another example is the fact that champs like {{champion:67}} Vayne is "on the border" of being nerfed, and her win rates have skyrocketed since the buffs (and right before the new skin if im not mistaken) shows that they're pussies because they don't want their poster children to be weak. Prestige skins amirite? (Except Aatrox because he's not allowed to be viable anymore) {{champion:92}} Riven too "Oh shes just a problem in the west" or whatever that quote was. I'm surprised {{champion:84}} wasn't on the OP's list, but at the same time that champion is usually in balance limbo, alongside {{champion:39}} *{{champion:83}} is in a decent spot still, but the fact that he's not popular, nor is he not mobile or have skins that scream "Omg buy me" he gets nerfed quick.
l MrD l (NA)
: What are people opinions on sylas so far?
Damage: Surprisingly low unless you're running electrocute. Utility: The ult stealing is semi-effective but thats also the minds of the players. His cool downs seem really low, making him annoying to trade with despite his low base damage. The knockup feels like its forever too. Defenses: The shield feels like it doesn't exist but the healing is really strong. All in all, not horrible for a release champ but I expect he'll get damage buffs and healing nerfs in typical riot fashion.
yukumari (NA)
: Please bring back nexus blits
I'm scared it'll turn out like URF and just become a competitive, toxic, try hard mode if it becomes permanent. It definitely is a lot of fun in certain doses, and its a surprisingly good way of learning a champ because people aren't salt and soy spraying your face if you screw up. With smalls exceptions, I've seen some bitter people on NB, but very rarely.
: Riot: "We're having Akali keep her shroud as it makes her very unique."
I mean shields feel pretty useless anyways but the shield damage mechanic is still pretty unique. Same with the disarm, even though most people run away from her when she ults. It seems stupid that riot is scared of a simple solution so they desperately beat around the bush instead of addressing simpler spots, destroying what makes champs unique. Honestly, I'd just... you ready? **LOWER HER DAMAGE** Or tweak her dashes, that too.
: Champions that i will always regret not banning if they're picked
{{champion:84}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:23}} {{champion:75}} {{champion:157}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:86}}
: meh you can go ap on hit udyr, i think last season it was viable (not sure if it still is especially cause the ap jungle item nerf/change)
Sorry Deku but Tiger stance is waaaay better than Phoenix stance
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Tank durability really needs to be addressed.
Weren't assassins supposed to be Feast or Famine, not tanks? hmm
Moody P (NA)
: >a little bit of armor pen. he has more than Garen with less effort. Wither is one of the strongest CC spells in the game and is absolutely ruinous to AS-based enemies. Nasus's potency as a disabler is being massively undersold here because he can fire-n-forget unlike basically any other juggernaut. Nasus is also one of the highest damage juggernauts in terms of single target DPS _potentially,_ but more importantly he's also one of the few who's still valuable to his team when put behind. The real "problem" with Nasus is that he has never actually catered to his infinite stack late game god fantasy any time he's relevant in high elo. Every appearance Nasus has made in high MMR or competitive has involved him forgoing stacks entirely and using an E-max build for wave control and lane dominance. His kit is basically entirely revolving around his Q, but he doesn't even put emphasis on the Q. Before that, back in season 3 he was a Wither bot and, again, barely emphasized stacking Qs. Volibear was a strong champion in S6 and in early S8; it's not his fault that Riot trashed on his items and then nerfed him directly both times he was good. Garen's flaw isn't being basic. Mundo's viability is way more reliant on how good defensive runes and items are than whether or not you bought Grievous. Cho'Gath isn't a juggernaut and Mordekaiser's bugs are massively overstated. You're selling all of these champions short.
> [{quoted}](name=Moody P,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FaAJd0od,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-01-07T21:44:22.403+0000) > > Volibear was a strong champion in S6 and in early S8; it's not his fault that Riot trashed on his items and then nerfed him directly both times he was good Well said, I picked up Voli during the later parts of season 6, and he was the first champ I got to mastery 7. I was kinda pissed that Riot nerfed him twice. Even though the knockback on his roar was helpful, he still feels kind of like a shell since then. Haven't had any luck with him unless I had a really early lead top lane- but jungle he's rare but decent.
: Fuck cass tbh. Bullshit champion
The only time shes in the spotlight top laners weep and demand nerfs. They get them too, since Cass isnt an assassin or a conqueror user.
: Would you recommend this game to people?
About two seasons ago maybe. A lot of people are right though, the new player experience is DREADFUL. I was fortunate enough when I started to have full parties of my friends, I doubt I'd be able to get into the game on my own merits. Truthfully I never play solo anymore anyways. It's hard to learn when you're staring at a grey screen more than you're moving since everything kills you in less than 2 seconds. So now, No, no I wouldn't recommend it cause Im trying to ween away my addiction.
: how impactful will asols q buff be
Thisll probably make his play rate go up. Hopefully riot won't be like "wow he's not an assassin and popular! Lets nerf him!" like they're doing for {{champion:69}}
Dukues (NA)
: Riot Balance & Design teams have cured my addiction
Might be a tad bit of a read but heres my story: Started at the midpoint/ end of season 4, right around the time {{champion:150}} came out for any clarity. Learning what all the champs do and all that was so much fun. Early reworks like Sion started happening and it was ok. I remember fondly doing 5man LAN parties in my friends basement and trying badass new comps. It was the shit, even though it was frustrating and I was complete garbage for the first few weeks. I was massively hooked in by season 5, and my peak moments playing the game were around the time of the mage update, so would that be 6? I noticed a decline in the game by the assassin update point, and when they reverted the unique, but godly powerful {{champion:96}} rework. I also played a lot of {{champion:136}} at the time, and seeing him nerfed repeatedly and all these hyper bursty and hyper mobile champs succeed really rubbed me the wrong way... When runes reforged came out I realized I was just playing out of addiction at this point. Everything was doing way too much damage, and the strategy got destroyed. A lot of people blame the runes reforged as the sole reason, but I feel this was coming since the season before. The last time I GENUINELY got excited about anything league related was the {{champion:50}} update. I played the old version a ton and got to m6 on him. He was a champ I didn't roll my eyes thinking "how broken is this one gonna be?" like pretty much every rework/new champ around this time and forward (with the exception of nunu, just don't find him interesting) I also believe that from a business standpoint, Riot won't try fixing the hyper mobility shit-storm the game is almost completely turned into. They brought in insane revenue at worlds, and their advertisements about having lots of "flashy plays" and shit probably have done them well in terms of money. Making more money supports the livelihood of the employees. Although with all the allegations against Riot this year and all that, I'm surprised people aren't trying to quit. I wish I could have fun like I used to. "Adapting" to the new state of the game is shitty. I may sound jaded, but the battle Royale Insta-gib, and the "you must play S rank champs or else you're trolling" all really fuck with me. I used to play almost every night, but now I take breaks between days and weeks even, and sometimes I used to do over 5 games a night, now I usually do 3. So in a sense, maybe I'll do something better in my life not playing this game as much as it is. But I can't help but feel down about how the spark is gone.
: dont bother posting things like this. Riot wont pay attention to any of this because they dont care, and they would rather draw in a toxic community that buys all the skins from op meta champions then the nice playerbase that experiments with more than one champion.
F L A $ H Y P L A Y $
Dragons (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Burns Master,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=lAM1ayVE,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2018-12-03T17:53:48.939+0000) > > I've seen Riven jungle before and it works well once you get an item or two. > > But sadly we're cucked because unfortunately your question is true, even though Riot is trying to say otherwise. Although a better way to answer your question is this: > > Anything that is below 100-0ing people or aren't "flashy" = off meta = troll. The Meta is 100-0 instant damage. I love the idea of playing off meta picks. It's my favorite cause when I queue into league I usually have a champ in mind or a fantasy to play. However, this is now unsupported. Where before it was maybe not the best option but not a complete hamstring of your team.
EXACTLY SO!!! I hate feeling like I'm handicapping our team because I want to play someone like {{champion:136}} (riot definitely hates Asol btw) {{champion:69}} {{champion:50}} (top 3 of my favourite mid laners) simply because they rely on sustained damage- which is my favourite type of mage (comes from wow), some may argue that Swain isn't and ok, but the other two definitely do. Not only are my picks immobile, but they're easily countered by everything else because everything else 100-0 people. The idea that playing out a fantasy character is not relevant, unless you're an edgleord, because almost all meta champs are also insanely edgy.
: Off meta picks
I've seen Riven jungle before and it works well once you get an item or two. But sadly we're cucked because unfortunately your question is true, even though Riot is trying to say otherwise. Although a better way to answer your question is this: Anything that is below 100-0ing people or aren't "flashy" = off meta = troll.
Bârd (NA)
: The First URF was fun. After that people figured out all the OP shit, so having normal URF would either result in the same broken shit getting picked every game, or it would result in the devs actually having to seriously balance URF, which defeats the purpose.
My thoughts exactly. Having a meta for a mode that was genuinely made for fun would suck all the fun about it and people would rage HARD. People jerk themselves angry about having no freedom to pick the broken picks in ARURF, but it doesn't make them impossible. I've had more people rq in URF than normal games anyways. ARURF makes it more unpredictable and more fun.
: Dying seems to = inting these days
Because of how high damage is and how one-shots are more and more common, most kills can literally come out of nowhere without anything you can do about it. Sometimes the enemy gets so far ahead from an early snowball, and if they got the mobility too (like most meta champs) they can easily destroy players that are behind and are trying to play safe. I still see the discrepancy between having zero chance of surviving a zed popping out and one shooting you out of nowhere compared to the tilted support who runs down mid and giggles waiting for the game to finish up.
: If we would ever get an Ultimate Project skin
{{champion:39}} or {{champion:91}} were my two optimal picks for project skins but they just gave them both skins recently...
IrvenM (NA)
: we wanted a kled skin
Similar to *Mecha Aurelion Sol, I feel like Riot just pulled this idea out of their ass just to say Kled can finally have a skin. Someone here suggested Dragon Trainer and I LOVE that idea, but they just gave that to the donger rip. My suggestion was like a "Stuntman Kled" type of skin very patriotic-like with eagle screeching on the ult or some hillbilly metal riff. *Even though I get the fantasy of a huge mecha dragon, they honestly had way better ideas they probably squashed. Still love my space dragon*
VampireX (EUW)
: Lissandra Egyptian themed skin concept
They might consider giving her another skin if they plan on changing her passive soon. I'd totally love to see this, the theme here is great and if I'm being honest could almost make for a legendary if possible! Bravo!
Rαy (EUW)
: Daniel Z. Klein not working for Riot Games anymore
This is a good step forward, now we just need Riot to admit banning men from a panel even for a limited amount of time was a horrible idea and we're solid! Though the Kotaku article says that a "Mattias Lehman" got outed as well, never read much about his role into this whole fiasco. Anyone wanna fill me in on that?
Lowvyr (NA)
: What do you think is the single biggest change Riot could make to improve the balance?
Tone down on Lethality damage items, give more counterplay to high mobility champs, and give more diverse items for mages.
: Mods are trying to kill the discussion about Riot's planned SJW brainwashing
How about fixing the game balance for the majority of your playerbase instead of attempting to appease the few constantly offended SJW things who more likely than not don't even play your game?
: Who in your opinion is in the most desperate need of a rework and why?
Hands down for me its gotta be {{champion:106}} and {{champion:85}} Volibear has new lore thanks to Ornn plus his kit is so insultingly outdated. As far as juggernauts go, they can be divided into "Raid Bosses" that while very immobile can easily win outnumbered usually due to sustain and high base stats. Ex. {{champion:420}} {{champion:122}} {{champion:75}} Then theres "Freight Trains" that are slightly more mobile that have higher durability but focus more on single target damage. Ex. {{champion:72}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:77}} Volibear fits more into the second category but his damage is less reliable and easily outclassed by the examples given. Hes wasted potential and damn near impossible to catch up on when behind. Kennen on the other hand just feels boring, and considering Shen and Akali both got updates this zappy hamster should too.
Reav3 (NA)
: No, Volibear needs a full VGU
Is he high on the list? After the Kayle/Morgana update of course. Volibear is the first champ I've got to mastery 7 ans I love him, but he definitely feels dated now.
: I think Players have to come together and be harder on the Balance Team for the greater good.
Pretty sure they're buffing Shadow Assassin for Kayn too, albeit a movement speed buff, but still this baffles me all while Ryze is getting the Aurelion Sol treatment... "We've noticed that damage is too high, so we're going to improve on that and buff champions at that one shot and have great mobility while we nerf immobile sustained damage." Seriously?
: Season 9 is the last chance to stay relevant; League cannot afford another Colossal Cock Up Cascade!
*KINDA LARGE RANT* Honestly, I used to go into games thinking "HELL YEAH I GOT MID NOW I CAN PLAY {{champion:69}} !" Or something like that. Now, if I go mid it's usually an assassin that can one shot me at level 2 with ignite no matter what champion I play, and I'm left praying for my jungle to camp me or that said assassin wont tower dive me multiple times like {{champion:84}} or {{champion:105}} can. Battle Mages are my favorite to play but they're a joke now. This can apply to any lane now really. If you're not playing the broken OP champs, then consider going afk because the contribution you'll bring is almost the same. A lot of people say that riot balances around their LCS games, and I agree for the most part. But watching worlds and stuff is honestly so boring now. You literally see like 6 different champs per lane, except for a few groups like 4 different jungle and adc characters. Only good part of worlds now is their songs they release each year. Gameplay in general is now like the LCS, seeing boring games with the same characters. Oh boy, 1 shots are so riveting! Most people I know have quit, or play from pure addiction (which I can relate to ar times) and you knoe the game has gone to shit when the art team is 10 times more competent than the gameplay team. Season 9 better be the best goddamn thing otherwise I'm out for good.
Iamgeyer (NA)
: Serious question, how do you deal with yasuo as a mage?
{{champion:69}} and {{champion:50}} are my usual answers to Yasuo. {{champion:8}} at times too. Yasuo is annoying to play against anyways no matter who you are IMO. With Conqueror he literally has a solution to every type of class. Surprised how people feed on him at times.
Rioter Comments
: I think Akali's Q should do %max health true damage
Im scared to think Rito might take one of these ideas lmfao
KazKaz (OCE)
: Riot aren't the only ones ruining this game.....The community also is.
I definitely agree that the community sucks the fun out of the RGM modes. Your statement on URF is way too accurate and it's actually the reason I didn't like the older version of it- there was a goddamn meta forming around a game more meant for FUN! Ive even seen this level of toxicity in one for all now. However I think a lot of why the community has been so digusting lately is cause and effect from Riots behalf so its a combination of both. I made a post about 3 or so months back where I said one point I had about the game losing it's fun because of lack of individual skill expression, then riot answered this by skyrocketing damage so you didn't even need to use skill, and then make one 1v1 in lane cost you your entire lane. You also needed to pray that if you lost lane they didn't take rift herald too. And that isn't fun to be pushed into the ground that fast into the game And another point, off meta builds are fine, but since the meta scene builds aka one shots unless you're a tank are simply easier to perform.
Rioter Comments
: The absolute worst thing about New Aatrox is that Riot will not listen to the Community
While I do think its a broad step to make Aatrox a funny champion (Similar to some of Rhaast's quotes I'm guessing) there's just something that almost takes away from his thematic. He's supposed to be this big warlord living weapon, but he 's literally talking to himself trying to be funny around void champions like what? I get that there's a lot of edgy, dark champs that came out recently like Pyke, or the Urgot and Yorick reworks, but Aatrox shouldn't be this comical. Plus his new voice sounds like something the Nazis would've made if they won WW2.
Krytoric (NA)
: I love league, but i get why people are quitting. (Long Rant)
I agree with how bullshit the damage is, but there's something satisfying to me when you see somebody get one-shot by something off-meta. Especially AD {{champion:412}} But then again it can also lose its value when everybody else can one shot by doing boring meta builds :/
Rioter Comments
: Tbh there's so little control once you're behind. In s3-5 sure you could farm, play passive. But doing that now means the enemy rampages down mid and wins. You don't have time to catch up
Oh yeah, with how heavy the feast or famine factor is, it's almost impossible to catch up now. I used to have tons of comeback games back in season 4-7 but since 8 that's been rare. Plus those games ARE comebacks usually start as neck and neck even games.
: I’m actually hoping that the rest of 2018 is dedicated solely to VGUs.
Im all for a {{champion:36}} rework, but they gotta keep his dialogue the same or at least just add more to it. My two other candidates are {{champion:106}} and {{champion:23}}
Yenn (NA)
: It feels like 90% of games this season are over by 10-15 minutes
Many of the games feel finished even in champ select alone.
: except Im far more often, seeing the entire rest of the tema feed. not just one person. i mean, multiple times now, i was in a team where we are 1 and 9 by 10 minutes. I of course get the 1 kill meabwhile.. literally EVERY OTHER LANE Gives up a kill. or 2. or 3. or 4. :-/ but whats the most frustrating thing, is that theese feeder aholes WONT FF AT 15. I could deal with it way more easly if they let me out. but no. there has been NO GAME i've been in, where we are down 9 kills by 10 mins, and ended up wining. Take away the stupid unanimous limit for 15min ff.
Pretty sure they're going to make the 15 min surrender no longer unanimous. I thought I read or watched it somewhere. I agree though, I had a game where I was the only person with a decent score and my team just fed because they got so tilted so early in.
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