: Chat should be removed and be replaced with additional pings to the ping wheel that more or less covers everything. Can't talk toxic if there's no chat. Pre-match and post-match chat should be removed too. As they serve no purpose.
i would quit if they did that lol some people need text to communicate, less able with pings. not everyone is super high elo...
: Didnt read the whole thread, but in my elo chat is 90% of the time not useful. I ask a player to please ward their lane? -Shut the fuck up, gtfo, noob, muted- I ask a player please play safe under turret? - fuck you, i go trol, i go int, dont tell me what to do I ask jungler please focus drake? - no its not important
well those just sound like jerks really.... i appreciate any comments or tips i get...
: They added a disable ally chat feature to stop the toxicity before it even starts. this board is useless. Toxicity is hard to avoid especially when your bot lanes go 0 and 12 every single game, in my opinion, most people posting shit about the ban system likely have never been banned before, therefore have no idea what the fuck they are talking about, leave it to the people with 6+ permaed accounts to talk about the ban system and toxicity. If your not one of those people, i guarantee you, you have no idea the dumb shit you can be banned for, like telling your team to shut the fuck up and stop flaming eachother just because they think eachother are garbage. And then after you do that they flame you and cause you to tilt when your doing 60k to their 20k damage in the game. Yes. this did happen to me, and im still fucking tilted over it. Also you have no idea what kind of personality disorders or mental health issues other players have, me for example I have borderline personality disorder which causes me to act out in anger when im flamed, which causes me to get banned, more than 6 times in a couple years, If you really think having chat helps players than you obviously are not that high of elo, plat+ barley use chat, only to maybe say when someones flash is down but other than that pings are really all you need.
true, iv never been banned, and never played rank. iv been reported though from people being too serious about stuff, but nothing has ever come of it ever. never been banned never been suspended or chat restricted even. and iv had this account since 2012. ;) its my original and only account. i dont even have a smurf account. anyhow... my mom has borderline i sympathize. she is good person but she is CRAZY lol... and thats not all borderline personality disorder. i have aspergers, which also has higher emotions AND senses, and less efficient processing (our brains dont trim unused paths as we get older, so we process slower). which is why we are prone to meltdowns. and anxiety disorders and depression and dissociation disorders and whole buncha fun stuff =D so... i get it on a level, but i was born with it, so iv grown up learning how to cope and deal, so i have an advantage one those who develop a disorder, like with bpd or ptsd. how iv had bpd described to me is that its like a part of the brain thats purpose is to cushion and regulate emotions, dull it, has been worn down so much that it doesn't work anymore and its just RAW emotions. so while yours are raw, mine are heightened instead. what leads to meltdowns? think of info as water. info like sensory info or emotions. then brains as a cup, there is a hole for drainage, but cuz of processing problems cups of neurotypicals are bigger than that of an autistic person. more/better/efficient drainage. we have more senses/emotions, we have more water and less efficient drainage, so our cups are more likely to overflow. so they are way more common in those on the autism disorder but they are not limited to the autism disorder, if a nuerotypical or some other type of disorder gets overwhelmed they can have one too. i get meltdowns so i have a measure of sympathy for you... i mean i can get a meltdown from a bright white room LOL but like i said, iv learned to adapt. born with it. from what you said, you should NOT have been banned for that, that is BS and actually should be fought and reversed, and i dont say that often. in my past experience the system has worked, but that doesn't mean it always does.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=olBsFNEI,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T02:50:11.045+0000) > > but if you can set things right/fair why is it wrong to do so? Your obligation is to your team, not the enemy. You are not setting things fair for your teammates who through no fault of their own are now unable to take advantage of an enemy disconnect.
rujitra (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=olBsFNEI,comment-id=000000000000000000000000000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-24T02:50:11.045+0000) > > but if you can set things right/fair why is it wrong to do so? Your obligation is to your team, not the enemy. You are not setting things fair for your teammates who through no fault of their own are now unable to take advantage of an enemy disconnect.
i should also note, this was in normals, and with friends not randoms, who were okay with me doing it. they were ahead anyhow. technically, it was still fair for my team, they were not put at a disadvantage, they just weren't at a unfair advantage. i get what you mean that my loyalty is to my team and only my team, but i don't see why you can't be nice to the enemy either. its a game, why is winning more important than playing fair?
rujitra (NA)
: That is fine. Once they are given an advantage, it is not up to you to take it away from them.
but if you can set things right/fair why is it wrong to do so?
: You both also **chose to AFK after he came back**. You signed up to play a game, and it's against the rules to **not play the game**. Your team was fine with the decision. Great. The enemy team was not, and you contributed to the problem.
we chose to stay out cuz at that point we were so far behind we were farm bait. X_X the enemy team didnt say anything till the game was over, or at least they said nothing about it in all chat.
rujitra (NA)
: As compared to before you left, they are at less of an advantage.
an unfair advantage that they shouldn't of had though.
: > I didn't really affect the game negatively Yes you did, whether you balance the number of players like a scale or not.
How is creating balance effecting it negatively? people my side were happy and his only made complaint after the game.
rujitra (NA)
: You *were* sabotaging your team, however, by intentionally putting them at a disadvantage. I understand that it may not feel good - but it is not acceptable to put your teammates at a disadvantage by leaving/AFKing ever - even if someone else does it first - and even still, the enemy team has a right to report the behavior as well, given that it is not appropriate.
but they were not left at a disadvantage at all. they were already ahead in kills etc and still won. and even if that wasn't the case, 4 vs 4, is not disadvantaged.
: If you aren't open to any advice, why are you bothering to post about this? You aren't supposed to leave games regardless of what other people do. Whether your team was OK with it or not, you **chose** to affect the game negatively, while the other person who disconnected most likely did not.
i wasnt asking for advice actually... more making comment on how people are too uptight. so caught in the win to play for playing's sake, and its sad. X_X I didn't really affect the game negatively, and the worst my own teammates had to say about it was that i was too nice. lol... i really really don't see how making it fair is considered to be affecting it negatively.
CLG ear (NA)
: if you had a daughter, what would you name her?
I dunno never thought about it. if i ever have a daughter it will be through adoption and they will keep their own name lol but if your looking for interesting names the best iv ever heard of was two twins named Honey and Bunny. XD hahaha...
rujitra (NA)
: Because you are making it harder for your team to win, and doing so intentionally.
i was making it an even playing field... its supposed to be 5 vs 5, then they lost one, so i sat out to even it out. so it was 4 vs 4. sure me doing so they couldnt get an easy win, (they still won) but its not about that for everyone... i don't like easy wins or taking advantage of a bad situation... the win doesn't feel good man. because i sat out i felt like i made the game fair again, i felt good ^_^ just dont get why his team, the team i made it fair for, were the ones that wanted to report me along with their guy. o_O also the person had a SOLID reason why he had to go, i forgot what it was, but it was emergency level, not his fault. if i had been his teammate i woulda been like thats fine man don't worry about it. things happen. instead his teammates wanted to ding him, and me, and i don't see how what i did was even bad at all. and you keep saying that i made it harder for my team to win, well duh, but i was setting it back to fair. i wasn't sabotaging the game, i was trying to make it fun for everyone.
rujitra (NA)
: They may have reported you because they did not want to see you do that sort of behavior when they were on your team.
i still dont get how sitting out when they have 1 less player is all that awful though? i mean being 5 vs 4 it would have been an easy win and i killed the easy win because i wanted to be fair, but it was in interest of a fair game? how is that so awful?
SSmotzer (NA)
: If you don't like the meta then screw the meta, play who you wanna play and do what you wanna do. I'm a support main and I take whoever I wanna play as support, that means everyone from Janna to Kled I have taken down bot and had a blast. Not always got a win, but at least I had fun.
> [{quoted}](name=SSmotzer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Eq0T0uXl,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-24T01:57:58.473+0000) > > If you don't like the meta then screw the meta, play who you wanna play and do what you wanna do. > > I'm a support main and I take whoever I wanna play as support, that means everyone from Janna to Kled I have taken down bot and had a blast. Not always got a win, but at least I had fun. see this is how i like to play too! ^_^ people get too uptight and strung out... itsa game relax and have some fun. it doesn't have to be about winning.
rujitra (NA)
: If "making it fair" means making it easier for the enemy, that is detrimental to your team and considered griefing behavior.
my team was fine with it, the problem was the enemy team wanted to report both me and the person that left initially. o_O like huh? i was trying to be fair to them note, i was playing with friends, not randoms, and they like how i am like that. it meant they didnt get the fast/easy win, so a little frustrated, but considering their comments were along the lines of "your too nice" i don't think they were all that actually angry at me XD lol...
Rioter Comments
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> [{quoted}](name=Yasashi Kokoro,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=sOAH1gOE,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-23T02:58:01.241+0000) > > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} > > Honestly, I can't see how people don't use honor opponent unironically i did, often. i have a habit of picking up friends out of people i played AGAINST lol i dunno how it happens it just does XD
Rioter Comments
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=al0EaGdO,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-23T12:40:46.598+0000) > > nah wasnt like that. she was convinced i was psychic and could see ghosts/predict the future. > > so when i said "your going to get cancer" and then my aunt did get cancer, my mom of course was like see! she can tell the future! but I knew i hadnt any kind of sense of prediction and was a science fiction junky with a mom trying to convince me i had powers >_> i was the one that came up with the other theories and was terrified of telling anyone cuz i didnt want them to get mad at me/blame me for her death. X_X; > > > also note, she convinced my sister i was psychic too, and she is still half convinced i am. so i wasnt alone in the mindfucking XD just so i dont seem too weird for ever having bought it i wasnt alone XD i feel really stupid about it now as an adult. makes for a funny story though! and a good "dont do this!" warning Even worse for a woman.
she is crazy but its not her fault that she is crazy. =P i only fault people on the things they can help/change. like... having a mean attitude, i find fault with those things. my mom is very nice and generous =] she helps all she can all the time like... she sells avon and stocks up when they have sales, and donates it to womens shelters regularly. and on xmas buys tons of gifts for all the kids there etc etc. on xmas she makes little gift bags for homeless people that we hand out near the shelter. they have 2 pairs of socks, snacks, and a timmys gift card for $10 (and a coupon for free timmy drink cuz they know what we do so they give us lots =3) we were poor growing up cuz of circumstances, my mom relied on others charity and now she is out of it she does all she can paying it forward. =] also note to take care of me and my sister during the hard times she was selling her blood to make ends meet. she is a very nice generous lady... the kindest you will ever meet. she may be a little loopy, but she is good people =3
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=al0EaGdO,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-22T19:49:19.542+0000) > > dude the stories i could tell about my mom... lol but none of them are her fault. she is one of the nicest people you will meet, she is just crazy. and i mean actually crazy. XD its fine though cuz now im all grown up and have hundreds of crazy stories to laugh at lol Sure was nice oit of her to point fingers at her own child like a madman for no reason at all without thinking that would actually affect the kid's mental health when growing up? Don't think so, sorry.
nah wasnt like that. she was convinced i was psychic and could see ghosts/predict the future. so when i said "your going to get cancer" and then my aunt did get cancer, my mom of course was like see! she can tell the future! but I knew i hadnt any kind of sense of prediction and was a science fiction junky with a mom trying to convince me i had powers >_> i was the one that came up with the other theories and was terrified of telling anyone cuz i didnt want them to get mad at me/blame me for her death. X_X; also note, she convinced my sister i was psychic too, and she is still half convinced i am. so i wasnt alone in the mindfucking XD just so i dont seem too weird for ever having bought it i wasnt alone XD i feel really stupid about it now as an adult. makes for a funny story though! and a good "dont do this!" warning
Vlada Cut (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=al0EaGdO,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-07-22T02:09:36.153+0000) > > ok... i get why he was pissed at the guy but wishing cancer on him and his whole fam? im ok with trolling the trolls but that is some BIG escalation and lands in the seriously fucked section found far north of the line. > > Also NOTE: > > Take it from me, never touch the topic of cancer in a negative way with people. i learned this lesson very early in life, take it from me. > > *storytime* *note i was 6* my dads sister and mom smoked but my parents did not, so when i was little i was not used to smoke and i *really* hated it (still do, i have aspergers so i blame it on the super senses but anyhow), my aunt lived in alberta and was visiting us in ontario for a week. it was the first time i had ever met her, she was a pro poker player and worked at a bank which i thought was really cool =] anyhow... > > they were smoking so i didnt want to be around them so i ran and hid under the covers in my room. my dad and aunt came to try lure me down and i got mad and was like "NO! and your going to die of cancer so THERE" cuz well... cigs = cancer... > > ... and then a few years later she died of lung cancer. yep. > > I was like omg what did i do D= and my mom made it WORSE because since i was little shes been telling me i was psychic, taking little things and spinning it to show that, like i named my fave teddybear jack, which was my dad's dad's name, who died when my dad was a kid so i never knew him. so my mom was like :o PROOF! and other things.... she believes this stuff cuz her mom was "psychic" and it skips a generation, and her mom thought i had inherited the "gift" before she died. and then this crazy coincidence happened and my mom jumped on that and was like "omg she predicted brendas death!" .... again cigs = cancer. not much to that or there shouldn't be >_> > > i was young and impressionable and i was sold and omg i felt horrible. X_X i felt like i had cursed her somehow... because i was more into science fiction and reading and since i didnt sense anything i thought it more likely that i had influence on making the future come true to my predictions... X_X; i was... a really weird and fucked up little kid. > > > > > but anyhow. moral of the story kids, dont wish cancer on people! if it comes true it will make you feel like shit! =D /end Your mom was an asshole for mentally torturing you like that.. I feel sorry for you.
dude the stories i could tell about my mom... lol but none of them are her fault. she is one of the nicest people you will meet, she is just crazy. and i mean actually crazy. XD its fine though cuz now im all grown up and have hundreds of crazy stories to laugh at lol
Hotarµ (NA)
: First things first, **[file a support ticket to get in contact with Riot support.](https://support.riotgames.com/hc/en-us/requests/new)** Beware though, it may take a bit of time for them to address your ticket. You said you haven't played in a few months but you have **[quite a few games that were recently played in your match history.](https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-history/NA/36131839)** That alone could mean that your account was compromised and the person that used it was the one committing those offenses. File that support ticket, try and explain the situation in as much detail as possible, and hopefully you can work something out.
^this. though added suggestion since i went through this too, send the ticket to recover a hacked account and give details in that. when i was looking into it i read something from the mods that if your banned from being hacked to do it that way, not fighting a unjust ban route.
: > you get the best games from helping your teammates... not by sabotaging them. you sabatoge them, its going to affect your game as well. banning your teammates intended pick... does just that. But...why should the person with the pick intent be the one who 'wins?' Why does one person's wants outweigh another's? The problem is there's no answer to that question, so that's why draft modes have **BANS COME FIRST** to settle that argument.
im pretty sure thats not the reason that bans come first... intent picks come first, so that the team mates know what their teammates want so they know what not to ban... bans come before select because well.... it doesn't really make sense the other way around??? now, thinking from a standpoint of maybe they have a really bad matchup vs a certain champ, they can communicate that or worried the team will pick him first if not banned it its op that season, etc etc. there are reasons. which is why its not against the rules and why i said it shouldn't be. but team wise, you don't know why your teammate is picking that champ, maybe they are queing with a friend and they have a good teamwork thing going, or maybe its just the champ they are best with etc. you don't know the person. by banning their intent, it is messing with their game. not to mention, its kinda rude, and is a bad way to start the game. the player will be in bad mood and sometimes thats enough to make them tilt. not intentionally just... mood does contribute to play performance. if you do something so early to tank that its not a good or helpful thing. everyones priority to their teammates should be to boost them, help them, work together. not fight.
Midg3t (EUNE)
: I know you guys love these wholesome friendly moments so I wanna share the one I saw just now :)
: Lets you ban a champion someone picked? This again? In draft pick modes, bans come before picks, period. Pick intent is solely a communication tool. You are entitled to nothing until the ban phase is over. Stop deflecting your behvior, inter.
er banning a intended pick is NOT team friendly, sure there are no rules against it, nor should there be, and doesn't excuse inting which IS against the rules and for good reason, but you can't say thats very nice of them... way back when i was learning the game all i knew how to play was teemo, but an teammate didnt like it so he banned teemo on me. back then teemo was RARELY banned, and if it did happen id dodge que. but because this was a team mate... i decided to play it out and show them why it was a bad idea to do that... you get the best games from helping your teammates... not by sabotaging them. you sabatoge them, its going to affect your game as well. banning your teammates intended pick... does just that. my team mate, didn't know i was an exclusive teemo player, that i was a new player, that i didn't have runes for anything else, that i didnt know any other champs and had to read the abilities and look up items to buy, and had no practice at all with other champs. so obviously, i did badly and they accused me of inting, which i was not. i legitimately sucked, because of all of the reasons given. nor did anything come of it, i didnt hear anything from riot about it so if they reported and it was reviewed, it wasnt seen as inting by the person who judged it either. (also the entire reason why i played teemo so much in the beginning, nothing else was because someone heard my voice and was like omg you sound like teemo, and im like what? and so they introduced me to LOL and had played bots with me over skype and got me to say teemo lines during the game XD they were... kinda obsessed with it. lol i liked it. =D some people don't like my voice, iv been self conscious of it in the past, so someone flipping out over it was something i loved. so naturally i played teemo all the time... lol though i don't even sound that much like him i definitely have a yordle voice...) *sample for fun* (excuse the poor sound quality) https://vocaroo.com/i/s1zGOzGHwfq9 <br><a href="http://vocaroo.com" title="Vocaroo Voice Recorder">Audio and voice recording >></a> also note, i wasn't putting on a voice to try and sound like teemo, thats my actual voice... >_> like i said, not perfectly teemo but definitely yordelish. iv learned a few more champs since then, so i have options, but teemo is still my best champ by far, so teammates banning him on me is still sabatoging, but i play it out, its their fault if i do badly. -_-; i still try my best but if it aint teemo i suck...
RallerenP (EUW)
: I would rather face a team of 5 scripters, than play with a single inter. No matter what, inting is the one most devastating thing for a game. A 14-day ban is MORE than adequate, and you don't get to have special treatment just because it's the first time you did it. The first time punishment for inting IS 14 days, exactly because of how severe it is. And people downvoted you because it's so obvious that you deserve the 14-day ban. Why do you need us to tell you why you deserve it, when the client does the same thing?
I find scriptors worse, tbh. cheating to win is way worse than getting mad and purposely losing. Cheating is ALWAYS worse. note, don't mistake this for defending the op, im not, i just find argument with listing it as worse.
aWgFrances (EUNE)
: Insanely Toxic Streamer With Botted Account.
ok... i get why he was pissed at the guy but wishing cancer on him and his whole fam? im ok with trolling the trolls but that is some BIG escalation and lands in the seriously fucked section found far north of the line. Also NOTE: Take it from me, never touch the topic of cancer in a negative way with people. i learned this lesson very early in life, take it from me. *storytime* *note i was 6* my dads sister and mom smoked but my parents did not, so when i was little i was not used to smoke and i *really* hated it (still do, i have aspergers so i blame it on the super senses but anyhow), my aunt lived in alberta and was visiting us in ontario for a week. it was the first time i had ever met her, she was a pro poker player and worked at a bank which i thought was really cool =] anyhow... they were smoking so i didnt want to be around them so i ran and hid under the covers in my room. my dad and aunt came to try lure me down and i got mad and was like "NO! and your going to die of cancer so THERE" cuz well... cigs = cancer... ... and then a few years later she died of lung cancer. yep. I was like omg what did i do D= and my mom made it WORSE because since i was little shes been telling me i was psychic, taking little things and spinning it to show that, like i named my fave teddybear jack, which was my dad's dad's name, who died when my dad was a kid so i never knew him. so my mom was like :o PROOF! and other things.... she believes this stuff cuz her mom was "psychic" and it skips a generation, and her mom thought i had inherited the "gift" before she died. and then this crazy coincidence happened and my mom jumped on that and was like "omg she predicted brendas death!" .... again cigs = cancer. not much to that or there shouldn't be >_> i was young and impressionable and i was sold and omg i felt horrible. X_X i felt like i had cursed her somehow... because i was more into science fiction and reading and since i didnt sense anything i thought it more likely that i had influence on making the future come true to my predictions... X_X; i was... a really weird and fucked up little kid. but anyhow. moral of the story kids, dont wish cancer on people! if it comes true it will make you feel like shit! =D /end
: Rito finally put my waifu in a cinematic so I taught myself to paint over 3 days to make art of her
: Okay, if you haven't already change your password and change it often. Another tip is google "yourpassword" with the quotes, that will do an exact google search and if any hackers have posted your info on the public side of the web you can find it there. I do this almost weekly if not semi-daily to make sure my passwords are secure. Someone brute forced it probably, tends to happen it happened to me once, but I quickly changed my minecraft info and kicked that poor kid who stole/bought my stolen account off. Since then I've been checking security every week at least.
I changed it when i noticed it, but was too late, and the riot made me change it again. i do create complex/odd passwords and i change them often. i had to create a system to keep track that wasn't straight up password on a list. i play tcgs, i have a special binder with personal favourite cards (usually unplayable in current meta either banned or out of rotation or just didnt stay competitive but earned my forever love) in them from all my games i play (mtg, ygo, pokemon, chaotic, vanguard, naruto, wow, etc). i use the last page for passwords, different special character based on rarity (like ! or @ or # or $ or % or ^), and add a color based on set, and the names are leet speaked. so like ls as 1s es as 3s etc etc. and the few letters in there are alternatively cap or not, ignoring numbers, but if the same letter was previously used it ignores that rule to be the same cap size) so... my passwords turn out very random/odd. lol and they are all different and change the password often enough, i switch the cards in the binders to remind me what i put it as cuz its impossible to remember otherwise... so for example, r41Nb0w^j1Nz0 would be something i used (its not anymore) its not that easily hackable. even knowing my system gives 100s of thousands of possible combinations. Without my binder its not possible to crack without programmed assistance. =3 and the binder isn't useable without knowing my system lol
: You need to take it up with riot, but you're responsible for keeping your account secure.
i did keep it secure... i dont give my password out to anyone (and its not an easy pass either). riot was the one compromised... and im far from the only one hit recently...
: Even in normal games... its not right. Sorry, its not.
acting like i did it on purpose... i wasnt. and the point i was trying to make by pointing out it was on normals was to say that you gain nothing by being higher elo on normals. its something that people actually actively dislike cuz it makes it harder to test new champs and get first one. NO ONE wants higher elo in normals. and it is not something that is done on purpose. X_X yes i get it when your teamed up with someone lower elo its frustrating to deal with but its probably not their fault. just like how this wasn't my fault. X_X
Ðïana (NA)
: He didn't cheat and get boosted. He played NORMAL matches with his friends, who happen to be really good. His friends were able to carry said games, and it inflated his NORMAL mmr, putting him in matches above his own skill level. He's done nothing wrong, and never mentioned ranked at all.
: Doesn't make it right, he is still ruining other people's games. If you have a new player, smurfs are more likely to make them leave. Oh... "just happened" to be really good... give me a break please...
your acting like i did it on purpose... i didn't at all. if there was a button to reset my elo id do it man. X_X i do NOT want to be a higher elo. thats what my complaint is. do not want. no. and i dont want to start over on a smurf either... and i dont want to just not play with friends ever again. what is your suggestion? to never play with the friends i play with ever again?
Rockman (NA)
: Canadians make me feel fat
eh im canadian im not small o_O well i kinda am... im 5"2 but im 160, most my fat goes to my boobs though so im so massively top heavy me being fat is less noticeable.
: Account Permabanned for using third party software
i got it when i was hacked, check your match history, was it you? if it wasnt do a support ticket about recovering your account. it will log you out to do it, even though you can still log into your account on boards, and it will send you a thing to reset your password.
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=47yLTQFj,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-07-19T22:46:48.545+0000) > > thats an interesting concept and makes you think about language and inner thoughts... when we think we apply knowledge of language, we think in words because our thoughts are associated with those words. but typically animals do not use language, so then what are their thoughts? how do they experience thought? > > also there are domesticated animals that learn language, parrots learn to actually speak and understand what they are saying, but even cats and dogs learn commands (unrelated story, i taught my cat to nuzzle under chin at command "love" =3). so to an extent they understand communication. > > and then their are animals that teach. like otters teach things like using rocks as tools to break open oysters. > > and social experiments with gorillas showed us that they have/learn culture when one gorilla taught the others the trick to a puzzle to get a treat. > > how do they communicate to pass these things on? are their thoughts formed in that way? things like body language, and if so how does that work? imagination? imagining images of themselves? if we imagine voices in ours heads, cant they imagine seeing in theirs to give form to their thoughts? basically their way of "talking" is their body flailing around to "talk" in a limited extent. if im understanding correctly.
> [{quoted}](name=Corrector1,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=47yLTQFj,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-07-20T16:14:13.330+0000) > > basically their way of "talking" is their body flailing around to "talk" in a limited extent. if im understanding correctly. do you have a pet? =3 pets have ways of communicating to you. like my cat will give this low disgruntled huff-meow at me that means she wants me to pet her lol and she has another meow that is a higher pitched disgruntled meow when i close the door on her. it means "let me in" if she wants fresh food she will try to get me to pet her then move just out of reach and lead me to her food bowl then tip it over -__- she is telling me "this is no good. i need new food!" (she also does it if its not the type of food she likes - she knows the difference and she is spoiled) she also does it when its getting close to the time of day that i give her the soft food which is a treat for her, she loves it. =3 and there are a lot of other less common/clear communication things she does. but animals do have ways to make things clear to you as you get to know them, any pet owner when they think about it can recognize it. =3 like dogs often jump around to show they want to play. cats arch and hiss and their fur puffs out (which is to make them look bigger more threatening) to scare off and make it clear they will fight ohhhh SKUNKS! skunks will STOMP to warn you off! its really cute =D male gorillas will posture before fighting. there are lots of unique body language things found in nature.
: well, Teemo support isnt very good. Its viable, its semi functional as a off-meta choice. But try to make it as functional as possible. Dont go smite. If anything id go Teleport+Flash+boots of mobiltiy, just for the map presence of mushrooms. Your main purpose as a gold starved Teemo, is going to be vision.
actually thats why smite was good, it got me gold cuz i could wonder into enemy jungle and take that as a little boost, it also allowed my adc to farm more exp without me there. (note only did this when one of theirs went back), and i was able to steal their blue way earlier than i normally would have. im juggling what the prioritize more of for first item... cooldown (nashtors tooth) for the shrooming or hextech for sustainability...
: Just because you had good results with in in 1game, isnt reflective of anything. Play 100 games of Teemo support with smite, then look at your win rate.
thats what this thread is for lol i plan on playing more but i have 0 experience with support or jungle, so im looking for possible suggestions, and people willing to play as adc to my teemo sup... i dont really want to spring this in normals on people not down. and it works best with certain long range snipe adcs.
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=A8FQeEA8,discussion-id=7tv6AvRr,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T19:13:23.347+0000) > > so? why cant they work with that? ai evolves to be sentient, the same could apply to a stuffed bear made real with magic =3 they even has his lore already written into annie's story. they can add a bit more to make tibbers into his own champion easily =3 The only reason it turns into a bear is due to Annie's magic. Without her, it's a normal teddy bear.
yeah but that was a tragic night when it happened. annies house caught fire, family died, etc. annies bear could be given a backstory of how he cared for annie and became her family after the fire :o
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: i dunno, like maybe they have a bad match up and would appreciate a lane switch? i know if im vs pantheon or olaf top im screweeed. or maybe they need a gank, or for me to place some shrooms for them in specific places for them? or maybe they need a red or blue, we can go on a little trip to steal the enemies one. =3 or gank the jungler if we know where they are, from the shroom placements. i wasnt thinking in terms of giving them game advice, but rather them tell me how i can help them out.
in my head id be like "i see your having some trouble x lane, anyway i can help you out? what do you need?"
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Q3KRgsRE,comment-id=0000000000000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T23:22:08.552+0000) > > i appreciate your honesty about it, its better than in future me or someone else who took my advice putting their foot in their mouth lol Lol also i mean, idk if thats how everyone would take it of course. But when you've been playing for a few years its like, ive heard all the tips, how do i answer that question andwhat possible advice could you give me that i havent already heard? But thats just me, and im a bit of an asshole so others of course might actually want some advice. I just think its a 'better safe than sorry' type situation. Best to say nothing unless asked. Especially if the person just made a mistake or got outplayed and are already tilted.
i dunno, like maybe they have a bad match up and would appreciate a lane switch? i know if im vs pantheon or olaf top im screweeed. or maybe they need a gank, or for me to place some shrooms for them in specific places for them? or maybe they need a red or blue, we can go on a little trip to steal the enemies one. =3 or gank the jungler if we know where they are, from the shroom placements. i wasnt thinking in terms of giving them game advice, but rather them tell me how i can help them out.
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Q3KRgsRE,comment-id=00000000000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T22:02:04.676+0000) > > eep... didnt think it would be taken like that... im usually the worst player, so needing to help a struggling player doesn't come up much. im judging based on what i would find offensive but i have a pretty thick skin cuz im just used to being the problem.... (clarification, problem play wise not attitude wise), > > im trying to brainstorm a better way they could have gone about it that wasn't offensive for the original poster, but it doesn't seem to be doable... Okay yeah I hear you. Most people just are looking for a way to be offended in game, so im just trying to look out for ya. I would probably say to myself "ya fuck you" in my head, and not respond. I wouldnt report for it, but I would take it as you being a smart ass and just ignore it lol.
i appreciate your honesty about it, its better than in future me or someone else who took my advice putting their foot in their mouth lol
Eybdoog (NA)
: I wasn’t getting heated, but I’m sorry you were. I am happy you were able to overcome your anger and open up to me. I’m sorry about your upbringing. That’s rough. It sounds like you made the best of a bad situation which is exactly what I’m advocating I can see how you think I’m blaming the “victim”. Maybe I’m asking for too much for people to have thicker skin. When people flame me I find it funny, so I just can’t relate to the feeling of others. Edit: I can relate to the feeling of the toxic person. I know that feeling
> [{quoted}](name=Eybdoog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dQv7FE1s,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-07-19T22:38:23.067+0000) > > I wasn’t getting heated, but I’m sorry you were. I am happy you were able to overcome your anger and open up to me. > > I’m sorry about your upbringing. That’s rough. It sounds like you made the best of a bad situation which is exactly what I’m advocating > > I can see how you think I’m blaming the “victim”. Maybe I’m asking for too much for people to have thicker skin. When people flame me I find it funny, so I just can’t relate to the feeling of others. ^_^' im over emotional, but i try to be aware and check myself when it leaks out. take a step back, evaluate the situation and the motives of the other person. your motives were not to victim blame, you were trying to advocate for peace. the issue was more the wording came off as more judging of the victim than the toxic player... im glad you clarified more on it. it helps to know where your coming from as well. also, its good you find it funny lol i tend to find angry people amusing too. but im overly sensitive to certain things, so im mostly chill but if they hit a vulnerable spot, i can get really bad myself. X_X... i just do so in ways that are more passive aggressive, like if they want to end the game early ill vote no and get friends to too, just to drag it out on the toxic person. >=] *evil* and you should see me places like twitter. XD i dont cross any lines, no cussing or anything, but i am damn good at arguing and it can get bitchy... >_>' sometimes intentionally, sometimes not. thats why i was worried my tone had leaked into bitch mode, you didn't deserve it, not with your motives, so i had to check myself... restart. im glad i did ^_^ &lt;3
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: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dQv7FE1s,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T20:46:25.262+0000) > > hmm this is getting a little heated... lets take a few steps back and try to see where the other is coming from. i'll start. > > i admit some of the things you said, did make me angry, i was trying to be civil but on reflect it did leak out in tone and how i addressed it, sorry... i didn't mean to get mad at you. i do see where you are coming from and that you are just trying to be nice and promote being nice. you don't deserve any backlash for that, i'll try to keep my emotions in check. > > now to shed some light on where and why i got angry... > > i get promoting not reacting, but the way you put it, it seems like you have a lot more sympathy for the person being toxic than the person they went off on, and also holding them to a higher standard. > > ** Background info on me to shed some light on WHY this hits me the way it does, which is not related to game. skip if not interested. > > iv had a lifetimes worth of turning the other cheek. my mom is bpd, and my stepdad growing up was a nightmare. by nightmare i mean he was a drug user and dealer, had a criminal record, was a pathological liar, and i could make a case for him being a psychopath (hurting animals, nearly killed me once either by accident or design unknown, and threatened my life when social services visited) etc etc. > > i dont have to go into details. > > I understand over emotional people from my mom too, bpd is nothing to laugh at. also i have aspergers i am overemotional myself. though i do have an advantage cuz i was born with it so i know how to deal/control, its odd to me that i can get so angry i meltdown and lose ability to speak, and can still control my actions to others, but those who are much less angry and are much less validated in their reactions can't control their anger and hurt others. > > so i don't have much sympathy for those who get toxic to others. nope. > > > and as for just taking it... my regrets were never reacting - i never did - it was not reacting that was the regret. i wish i had. i had to grow a backbone to stand up for myself and its something about myself i value. i dont take the piss on anyone who doesn't deserve it either, they have to be really vile to get me to that point. > > ***/ end of personal story. back to argument. > > you have a lot of sympathy for the person who lost their temper... but how about the person who was the target of it? they are already frustrated from doing badly at the game, on top of that any hurt they feel from a toxic team mate rubbing their nose in it. not to mention that its unfair to do that to them they cant help it. > > they are mad too, AND feeling hurt by the toxic person. > > you can encourage them to be the bigger person and walk away, but its not fair to EXPECT it of them. its like holding them to a higher standard of the other person, who yes are more at fault, cuz they went at someone for something not their fault. > > its like comparing attacking unprovoked vs attacking provoked. one is worse than the other. you can say an eye for an eye makes the world go blind, two wrongs don't make a right, etc etc. > > but thats ideal... something to aim for but not realistic expectation... you dont have to accept abuse, of any kind. > > now... that still doesn't excuse crossing lines, etc. you still have to stay in those, but no reaction of any kind? > > > and muting? thats not helpful for the game you need communication to work together, nor does it fix the hurt already inflicted. damage has already been done, and its not necessarily easily brushed off. > > > > yes some people get angrier than others out of frustration. well some get more hurt and angry at people being toxic at them. and making it their problem for being hurt? not fair. very not fair. and when you push this sensitivity for the toxic person and saying things like "stop seeking to be the victim" your invalidating their hurt over it. its like your saying being toxically angry is more forgivable than being sensitive, or suggesting that they bear blame/responsibility for the person being toxic at them. like them losing their shit with the person was validated. > > again. unprovoked vs provoked. > > this is how i took what you said - and why i was getting angry/worked up over it. Btw I’m also advocating for standing up to actual bullies. Try to disarm first. Be rational and upbeat if possible. If that doesn’t work, then tear them to shreds because they deserve it
> [{quoted}](name=Eybdoog,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=dQv7FE1s,comment-id=0004000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T22:47:45.701+0000) > > Btw I’m also advocating for standing up to actual bullies. Try to disarm first. Be rational and upbeat if possible. If that doesn’t work, then tear them to shreds because they deserve it ah ok that is good to know. ^_^ i agree, trying to disarm is much better than biting back, but i wouldnt blame someone either if they did... its human to do so. that being said... its better to make friends than enemies and try to get along. just easier really. most things can be worked out without escalation.
: is it weird to imagine that animals have little light voice in their heads?
thats an interesting concept and makes you think about language and inner thoughts... when we think we apply knowledge of language, we think in words because our thoughts are associated with those words. but typically animals do not use language, so then what are their thoughts? how do they experience thought? also there are domesticated animals that learn language, parrots learn to actually speak and understand what they are saying, but even cats and dogs learn commands (unrelated story, i taught my cat to nuzzle under chin at command "love" =3). so to an extent they understand communication. and then their are animals that teach. like otters teach things like using rocks as tools to break open oysters. and social experiments with gorillas showed us that they have/learn culture when one gorilla taught the others the trick to a puzzle to get a treat. how do they communicate to pass these things on? are their thoughts formed in that way? things like body language, and if so how does that work? imagination? imagining images of themselves? if we imagine voices in ours heads, cant they imagine seeing in theirs to give form to their thoughts?
: > [{quoted}](name=Byteblitz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Q3KRgsRE,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-07-19T21:18:59.678+0000) > > good point. > > i think open asking if they are having trouble is a good way to fish for what is wrong, and perhaps learn a way you can help them do better. etc. I would avoid that. Thats a passive aggressive way to say someone is playing poorly. Yes, they are THAT strict. You wont get punished immediately for it if you get reported, but it could lead to a punishment eventually. Not to mention what is said after askingthat question could quickly turn into an arguement, which could also get you punished and them.
eep... didnt think it would be taken like that... im usually the worst player, so needing to help a struggling player doesn't come up much. im judging based on what i would find offensive but i have a pretty thick skin cuz im just used to being the problem.... (clarification, problem play wise not attitude wise), im trying to brainstorm a better way they could have gone about it that wasn't offensive for the original poster, but it doesn't seem to be doable...
: Bring it down to a different level, then. "Will what I type next contribute to winning the game?" If answer is No, stop.
good point. i think open asking if they are having trouble is a good way to fish for what is wrong, and perhaps learn a way you can help them do better. etc.
Unker139 (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=girl destroyer,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=Q3KRgsRE,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-07-19T19:45:59.899+0000) > > To let him know that the elo he is playing is not apropriate for him when i join a ranked game i am looking to play my game as good as possibble and also help my teamates win this guy tho was just tower diving when he was 3 lvls behing the guy he was diving ok i get it i can just report him after game bubt that was my only hope he stops doing this i really dont like having this type of player as teamates or enemies when i play in platinum elo i want my teamates and my enemies to be platinum not diamond not gold i just want them to play like the division they are on plays They can't control the game they are put in. Again...if you are trying to win and help your teammates win, does telling a teammate they are bad help you accomplish this? Seems to me that you are trying to make it harder for your team to win.
or they could have been lagging or some other mishap. sometimes i map click and then look at something at other screen, like item guide, and accidentally do something stupid... X_X
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