: Perma Banned because of this LMAO
Gotta love the downvotes from the players who probably didnt even read the thread as well {{sticker:slayer-jinx-catface}}
: I got a 14 day auto ban for saying "shut up and play idiot" literally that's it. the chat logs showed the rest of my team cussing me out and flaming each other. I know it was automated because I was in queue after the ban somehow and it was the very game I just played that got me banned. The report system is a joke and its forced me into an elo with nearly all trolls who try to make it look like the NON trolls are the ones trolling.
> [{quoted}](name=ImEzrealAsItGetz,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-04-16T23:55:04.670+0000) > > I got a 14 day auto ban for saying "shut up and play idiot" literally that's it. the chat logs showed the rest of my team cussing me out and flaming each other. I know it was automated because I was in queue after the ban somehow and it was the very game I just played that got me banned. The report system is a joke and its forced me into an elo with nearly all trolls who try to make it look like the NON trolls are the ones trolling. Its funny to me, they think a 3 step report system is what keeps people from being toxic/non toxic. In reality the only way to not get banned is to offer nothing to conversations in chat that aren't "do baron, do dragon, dont engage" etc. Truly negates the entire chat experience if you ask me. It would make sense if you were inting the games or spam cursing the chat to ruin the experience but chat logs like above is such a soft ban with the only intent to make you spend more time on their game purchase level up benefits/BE etc to get you back to where you were. If you want an example of an unrestricted chat experience in a pvp game look at World of Warcraft, zero bans for toxicity in chat yet people managed just perfectly :)
Julevi (EUW)
: You got perma banned for your overall negative behaviour in some games. Like other users already mentioned that your account is on incredibly thin ice after a 14-day-ban as nearly every act of violation of the rules can lead to to that. It was stated on your report card and you ignored this warning. It does not matter how "hard" or "toxic" your chatlog is as the last step stated that you should not show that behaviour again and clearly not said "Hey, mhmm you got some chances before but as long as your chat is only mild and you don't violate our rules _that_ much it's git gud".
> [{quoted}](name=Julevi,realm=EUW,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00000000000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-17T00:30:33.618+0000) > > You got perma banned for your overall negative behaviour in some games. Like other users already mentioned that your account is on incredibly thin ice after a 14-day-ban as nearly every act of violation of the rules can lead to to that. It was stated on your report card and you ignored this warning. It does not matter how "hard" or "toxic" your chatlog is as the last step stated that you should not show that behaviour again and clearly not said "Hey, mhmm you got some chances before but as long as your chat is only mild and you don't violate our rules _that_ much it's git gud". that would make sense if this chat log WAS toxic but not really so try again :) If you believe the report system doesnt need a rework, hate to say it but you're probably the minority.
: Nothing worse than being called useless by a feeding bot lane just because you wont dedicate your jungle time to getting them caught up. They dont even know im getting mid and top fed who will have a much better chance of carrying than a 0/2/0 sona. One thing you cant do though, is insult them back. No shaming of their performance, no rubbing anything in. Just dont be insecure and try your best to ignore them. (Mute if necessary) Your report after game is gonna hurt them much more than anything you could say, unless theyre just fragile little snowflakes. But I'd be willing to bet, getting their account banned is gonna hurt a lot more than petty insults over video game skills. I know it sucks having to bite your tongue sometimes, but its the best way because arguing over performance in the middleof a match isjust gonna open your account to a ban, and you avoid looking like a nerd who thinks being good at video games means anything.
> [{quoted}](name=Telephone Booth,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-04-16T22:15:19.533+0000) > > Nothing worse than being called useless by a feeding bot lane just because you wont dedicate your jungle time to getting them caught up. They dont even know im getting mid and top fed who will have a much better chance of carrying than a 0/2/0 sona. One thing you cant do though, is insult them back. No shaming of their performance, no rubbing anything in. Just dont be insecure and try your best to ignore them. (Mute if necessary) Your report after game is gonna hurt them much more than anything you could say, unless theyre just fragile little snowflakes. But I'd be willing to bet, getting their account banned is gonna hurt a lot more than petty insults over video game skills. I know it sucks having to bite your tongue sometimes, but its the best way because arguing over performance in the middleof a match isjust gonna open your account to a ban, and you avoid looking like a nerd who thinks being good at video games means anything. Factual, which is why 99% of the time I just insta mute, If you went back and read the chat logs you cant really say I argued over performance besides 1 comment regarding a statline (he had brought up i should have fed HIM the kills which is why i even mentioned being 0/5 would be pointless to give kills to, simple logic, and then dropped it until the postgame lobby where i told him it wasn't jg fault for the loss. Definitely agree with biting the tongue comment, simply chatting at all opens you up to misinterpretation/bans :) * also to be noted you eluded that I shamed their performance, which is incorrect sir, I only told them their stats
: As much as I normally agree with the logs showing toxicity, this one is pretty damn minor. I can only reckon that you JUST came off a 14 day ban, and if so the system is super sensitive.
> [{quoted}](name=SupportPlank,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:54:53.494+0000) > > As much as I normally agree with the logs showing toxicity, this one is pretty damn minor. I can only reckon that you JUST came off a 14 day ban, and if so the system is super sensitive. Appreciate the reply, I thought so too /shrug 14 day ban was definitely months ago and I had even "ranked up" in honor since but who knows!
: > [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:04:57.492+0000) > > How recent was the 14-day ban? > > If you got punished for it, that means it was breaking the rules. You don't get punished for false reports and/or mass-reporting. > > This is just false. > > You were warned that continued negativity would result in a permanent ban and you disregarded that warning. Your account was on it's final chance and you continued to break the rules, that's why you got permanently banned. > > The amount you type doesn't increase your chances of being punished, however typing stuff like this _does_ increase those chances: > > _ C9 Lil Xan: 0/5 > C9 Lil Xan: ur right > C9 Lil Xan: i shud give u more kills > C9 Lil Xan: LMAO > C9 Lil Xan: reported > C9 Lil Xan: enjoy ban > C9 Lil Xan: muted > C9 Lil Xan: every lane lose gg > C9 Lil Xan: imagine complainging about losing bot lane bc ur jg took the kills_ > > **"Two wrongs don't make a right, just because someone else is flaming you doesn't mean you can break the rules and skirt by without punishment."** > > Didn't say anything about you having to give the kills to your carry? You're allowed to play however you want, you are not allowed to flame your teammates. You mean to say "youre not allowed to tell your teammates their in game scores when they complain about you not getting them enough kills" Nothing said was so toxic that a permanent game ban is worthy but gotcha.. as for the 14 day ban it was probably before december so over 6 months or on the border not sure
> [{quoted}](name=C9 Lil Xan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:14:36.671+0000) > > You mean to say "youre not allowed to tell your teammates their in game scores when they complain about you not getting them enough kills" Nothing said was so toxic that a permanent game ban is worthy but gotcha.. as for the 14 day ban it was probably before december so over 6 months or on the border not sure Judging by the responses in this post the general consensus is the same.. very light ban as only 1 chat series of less than 10 words resulted in such :)
Zezilian (EUNE)
: People abusing report calls way too much for pretty much anything. Personally, w/e somebody calls report on me I automatically stop helping such a person and if somebody constantly harass me with report calls i just throw the game and report such a person after the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Zezilian,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:22:51.037+0000) > > People abusing report calls way too much for pretty much anything. Personally, w/e somebody calls report on me I automatically stop helping such a person and if somebody constantly harass me with report calls i just throw the game and report such a person after the game. I agree, only 1 game I told people to report the lucian because he was racist in all chat.. The other time I was just saying reported because they were flaming JG hard.. Big oof, shouldve just muted and then reported after but yeah bit crazy
: Wow, they sure are harsh these days. Wouldn't have given you the permanent if I was a mod....guess it's a good thing I'm not.{{summoner:14}}
> [{quoted}](name=Deathbyrogue,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:23:41.799+0000) > > Wow, they sure are harsh these days. Wouldn't have given you the permanent if I was a mod....guess it's a good thing I'm not.{{summoner:14}} Win some lose some, their system definitely needs work IMO
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Lil Xan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:03:00.460+0000) > > If there was another game I was toxic, why wasnt it shown? oh right because there are none... Ill paypal any Riot employee 10$ to bring up a chat log where I was noticeably toxic to another player to the point where it would affect the game experience. i mean the logs you provided us in this thread are toxic and probably made the mood of the game go down a lot You've had many chances to reform and on the 14 day ban card it clearly says that the next ban will be a permanent one And your account is on very thin ice after the 14 day ban
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00000000000000010000,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:07:00.058+0000) > > i mean the logs you provided us in this thread are toxic and probably made the mood of the game go down a lot > > You've had many chances to reform and on the 14 day ban card it clearly says that the next ban will be a permanent one > And your account is on very thin ice after the 14 day ban Only flame can be considered toxic is telling the adc his scoreline in case he forgot LMAO but youre right definitely toxic!
Zezilian (EUNE)
: Love it. I been telling newbs in my games never call for reports of you will get punished, but they never believe me. Thank you for sharing with us your REPORTED, GET BANNED experience.
> [{quoted}](name=Zezilian,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:12:36.248+0000) > > Love it. I been telling newbs in my games never call for reports of you will get punished, but they never believe me. > > Thank you for sharing with us your REPORTED, GET BANNED experience. Anytime glad to help expose
: You are on their game bro, you not gonna win this one. Just LOL at responses in post like this, make a few post and use it as entertainment. It's more amusing than the actual game to me.
> [{quoted}](name=Season 9 Blows,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:13:30.989+0000) > > You are on their game bro, you not gonna win this one. Just LOL at responses in post like this, make a few post and use it as entertainment. It's more amusing than the actual game to me. thats why i posted it, its funny to me too
Zezilian (EUNE)
: I believe you been calling for reports pretty much every game. This type of harassment sums up eventually.
> [{quoted}](name=Zezilian,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:14:45.069+0000) > > I believe you been calling for reports pretty much every game. This type of harassment sums up eventually. yeah I said Reported everytime someone was toxic then muted them LMAO literally my only mistake honestly.
Hotarµ (NA)
: >second 14 day ban was for something similar ie telling a lane to play better without inherently flaming but still getting reported because they disapproved of jungling tactics. How recent was the 14-day ban? If you got punished for it, that means it was breaking the rules. You don't get punished for false reports and/or mass-reporting. >The more you type the chance you get perma banned goes up exponentially despite having little influence into a negative game atmosphere This is just false. You were warned that continued negativity would result in a permanent ban and you disregarded that warning. Your account was on it's final chance and you continued to break the rules, that's why you got permanently banned. The amount you type doesn't increase your chances of being punished, however typing stuff like this _does_ increase those chances: _ C9 Lil Xan: 0/5 C9 Lil Xan: ur right C9 Lil Xan: i shud give u more kills C9 Lil Xan: LMAO C9 Lil Xan: reported C9 Lil Xan: enjoy ban C9 Lil Xan: muted C9 Lil Xan: every lane lose gg C9 Lil Xan: imagine complainging about losing bot lane bc ur jg took the kills_ >Where did I break the rules due to someone flaming me exactly besides saying you;re right at 0/5 i should have given an incompetent adc the kills to carry **"Two wrongs don't make a right, just because someone else is flaming you doesn't mean you can break the rules and skirt by without punishment."** Didn't say anything about you having to give the kills to your carry? You're allowed to play however you want, you are not allowed to flame your teammates.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T21:04:57.492+0000) > > How recent was the 14-day ban? > > If you got punished for it, that means it was breaking the rules. You don't get punished for false reports and/or mass-reporting. > > This is just false. > > You were warned that continued negativity would result in a permanent ban and you disregarded that warning. Your account was on it's final chance and you continued to break the rules, that's why you got permanently banned. > > The amount you type doesn't increase your chances of being punished, however typing stuff like this _does_ increase those chances: > > _ C9 Lil Xan: 0/5 > C9 Lil Xan: ur right > C9 Lil Xan: i shud give u more kills > C9 Lil Xan: LMAO > C9 Lil Xan: reported > C9 Lil Xan: enjoy ban > C9 Lil Xan: muted > C9 Lil Xan: every lane lose gg > C9 Lil Xan: imagine complainging about losing bot lane bc ur jg took the kills_ > > **"Two wrongs don't make a right, just because someone else is flaming you doesn't mean you can break the rules and skirt by without punishment."** > > Didn't say anything about you having to give the kills to your carry? You're allowed to play however you want, you are not allowed to flame your teammates. You mean to say "youre not allowed to tell your teammates their in game scores when they complain about you not getting them enough kills" Nothing said was so toxic that a permanent game ban is worthy but gotcha.. as for the 14 day ban it was probably before december so over 6 months or on the border not sure
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Lil Xan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:55:06.400+0000) > > Saying report someone because they're being blatantly racist is perma ban worthy? noted thanks for the info! Asking for others to report someone is bannable, especially if you've been toxic in other games that are not shown here There's no reason to ask someone else to report someone because 1 report holds the same value as 9 reports So asking for reports is just toxic
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:57:41.051+0000) > > Asking for others to report someone is bannable, especially if you've been toxic in other games that are not shown here > There's no reason to ask someone else to report someone because 1 report holds the same value as 9 reports > So asking for reports is just toxic If there was another game I was toxic, why wasnt it shown? oh right because there are none... Ill paypal any Riot employee 10$ to bring up a chat log where I was noticeably toxic to another player to the point where it would affect the game experience.
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Lil Xan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:55:06.400+0000) > > Saying report someone because they're being blatantly racist is perma ban worthy? noted thanks for the info! You don't have to tattle to your, or the other team for reports. 1 report has the same weight as 9.
> [{quoted}](name=Shandrake,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:59:45.994+0000) > > You don't have to tattle to your, or the other team for reports. > > 1 report has the same weight as 9. So for tattling perma ban, got it thanks!
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=C9 Lil Xan,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:55:06.400+0000) > > Saying report someone because they're being blatantly racist is perma ban worthy? noted thanks for the info! Asking for others to report someone is bannable, especially if you've been toxic in other games that are not shown here There's no reason to ask someone else to report someone because 1 report holds the same value as 9 reports So asking for reports is just toxic
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:57:41.051+0000) > > Asking for others to report someone is bannable, especially if you've been toxic in other games that are not shown here > There's no reason to ask someone else to report someone because 1 report holds the same value as 9 reports > So asking for reports is just toxic according to the "reasoning for why you were banned" It DOES in fact hold weight considering their reason was the volume of reports per game (which wasn't very high in itself)
Hotarµ (NA)
: >apparently someone can call you bad and you saying you'll report them they'll just counter report you with their duo que and you get a perma :) You got a permanent ban because you ignored your 3/4 other chances in the form of a 10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, and 14-day gameplay ban. If you used hate speech, you still had an extra chance (14-day ban) and you knew that any further negativity would result in a permanent ban. It was stated clearly on your reform card. ____________________ Either way, yes, this ~~punishment~~ chat log will warrant a permanent ban and especially so when your account is on thin ice. You're insulting people based on their scores or performance and asking for reports (which after a certain point becomes player harassment.) Two wrongs don't make a right, just because someone else is flaming you doesn't mean you can break the rules and skirt by without punishment.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:55:15.482+0000) > > You got a permanent ban because you ignored your 3/4 other chances in the form of a 10 game chat restriction, 25 game chat restriction, and 14-day gameplay ban. > > If you used hate speech, you still had an extra chance and you knew that any further negativity would result in a permanent ban. It was stated clearly on your reform card. > ____________________ > Either way, yes, this punishment will warrant a permanent ban and especially so when your account is on thin ice. You're insulting people based on their scores or performance and asking for reports (which after a certain point becomes player harassment.) > > Two wrongs don't make a right, just because someone else is flaming you doesn't mean you can break the rules and skirt by without punishment. Account was years old, first punishment was probably nearly 2 years ago, second 14 day ban was for something similar ie telling a lane to play better without inherently flaming but still getting reported because they disapproved of jungling tactics. The more you type the chance you get perma banned goes up exponentially despite having little influence into a negative game atmosphere. Where did I break the rules due to someone flaming me exactly besides saying you;re right at 0/5 i should have given an incompetent adc the kills to carry
Arcade Lulu (EUNE)
: Asking for reports is reportable On your 14 day ban report card it clearly says that the next offence will lead to a permanent ban So you know.....
> [{quoted}](name=Arcade Lulu,realm=EUNE,application-id=ZGEFLEUQ,discussion-id=hkfJzr5K,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-16T20:53:54.472+0000) > > Asking for reports is reportable > > On your 14 day ban report card it clearly says that the next offence will lead to a permanent ban > > So you know..... Saying report someone because they're being blatantly racist is perma ban worthy? noted thanks for the info!
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