: The thing about Zed Mains is....
You sure that's really just Zed-specific?
: 8 hours of gameplay with no progress
This is when you tell yourself that League is probably *not* the game for you. Progress isn't always there when you signed up to play soloQ. Though I can agree with you on how *during* games are not fun, even in low elo.
Tarlanor (NA)
: Can supports get more downtime between shields? Windows of vulnerability where Assassins can go in
How about nerf/remove all that unnecessary bonus heal/shield power that enchanters don't really need in the first place as well? That basically threw one of their only skill expression out of the window, and now we have none. Might as well go on autopilot.
: @Riot Repertoir: Please Clear Up the confusion, Our Math Skills Are Horrendous and it wont take long
I'm more concerned on how it's "disabled" in pro play but left available in soloQ for so long.
Samael11 (NA)
: Something seems seriously wrong with players this season...
I guess that's what happens when games become one of those "make one little mistake and lose entire game" even in low elo. It turns people hostile.
: From now I shall play lulu everywhere for my adc overlords.
cringe i dont think your downvote farm is working... yet
: So instead of every game being ruined by autofill like they are now, you are concerned a few might be because of ideal swaps? It won't fix everything but it will be a hell of a lot better than the current system with autofill.
People can just find duos and "boost" each other from there.
deathgod5 (EUW)
: This is my prediction how a champ select in the new mode will go
I have thought of this and even made a thread about it but no one listened to me i'll just have to bring it up constantly each time someone talks about new ranked
: Confessions of a Broken Blade: Yasuo x Riven
I mean Yasuo's lines towards Riven in his Nightbringer skin already made it sound like they *used* to be together... I know "skin lores" doesn't matter, but it's a sign. {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
: Riot, We Need More Stories Like This
I know, personal opinion, but I prefer stories that are "easy" to read and is not written in English 100+ years ago. This one did a good job at making things readable, not overly descriptive, have progressive plot, involve more than just NPCs, and didn't change existing lore. I agree, Riot should do more of these. ######And another reason to actually ship Riven with Yasuo :^)
: I think it would lean more towards "smurfing".
I don't think people need to smurf just to take advantage of that, because just because someone who knows mid very well, that doesn't always mean he knows how to play ADC ~~and force himself to cooperate with his support~~.
Rioter Comments
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: Casual players realizing what pro players knew all along.
Maybe that's why I used to have so much fun playing Lulu support when she was known to be "troll pick" back in the day, because causals always underestimated Lulu support and how she couldn't kill lane like how tanks/mages would. Polymorph has always been the bane of anyone's (except some tanks and mages) existence, shields and all those dank buffs have always been noticeable by allies and ADCs alike, before Riot overbuffed shield stacking just to get casuals to realize the power. Now that people found out, I can't win as much, and it's no longer as fun. Doesn't feel like a "special snowflake" to be a Lulu main nowadays. Also, reminder that support as a class has been an overall buff for the past 4 years. Not a surprise to find out how much power they actually have been having all along.
Snowman Arc (EUNE)
: If assassins kill ADCs, and supports avoid that to happen...
I always do that as enchanters, it's more fun anyways and that it's a useful tactic when your ADC can't just get that powerspike yet. Shit like Lulu can just click R on your assassin who's jumping in, he might rake a few more kills. But I think that's more of the past now since anyone jumping in will get deleted almost instantly.
: Is this really okay?
nah its supprot so its okay :^)
: I'm just glad someone posted this. I'm not really having much fun, and I know it's not because I've been playing for too long. I've only played for 6-7 months and the game feels like shit compared to even last season. Oh well.
Honestly there's *dozens* of threads like that out there right here on this subforums.
: I just want this game to be fun again
im just a no name in gold that wants "skill expression" in enchanters again back when timing shields and making decisive plays were sorta necessary instead of blindly stacking heal/shield power for free wins
Rexxiee (NA)
: Why do ppl here only complain about janna and lulu while braum, alistar and TK are even worse?
: Thank you for reverting Leblanc
i'd be salty because shes on my team i love 4v5 teams, we all know lb players in low elo can't do jack shit
Xiniseid (NA)
: When Lulu/Janna are picked that should be a sign you shouldn't pick an assassin
Like what some others have said, your job as an assassin is to not 1v2 and watch as the support sit in place like a strange-looking minion. If you jump in first, and alone as a squishy assassin, I wouldn't be surprised if you can't get past anything even if that ADC doesn't have Lulu/Janna as his support. Though a nerf to shield power could be looked at. It used to be an accomplishment out-peeling an assassin back then, but now it's just a too easy brainless job.
: Lulu feels weak right now.
come on you need to try harder
nm1010 (NA)
: Perfect example of what I think is wrong with smurfing (from a smurf)
Some streamers play in low elo mainly to *teach* viewers how to climb, sometimes using a certain champ/setup/etc that is deemed shit in high elo, but works down below. Though I can agree with on the most part; a lot of smurfs are assholes and are why people hate dealing with them.
: Oh my god?! An open mind!? On **LEAGUES** discussion Boards!? Are you lost? Who is this person!?
: This is my “LoL is dying” post, and I require validation
xelaker (NA)
: Bring your A game into ranked please.
Ranked is for experimentation, normals is for tryharding. I thought that's been pretty clear since forever. /s
: most hilariously op gameplay interaction ive ever seen
That should be an idea for doom bot Jhin where *everything* he has is in his 4th shot iteration.
Sasogwa (EUW)
: Think about one change that would completely destroy the meta as we know it
Riot actually listening to Boards and do what Boards wanted.
: > [{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vO37Q6u8,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2018-04-09T19:10:33.820+0000) > > {{champion:432}} {{champion:26}} {{champion:267}} > > You have to be good at the champ and have supporting knowledge, can dish out reasonable amounts of damage and utility depending on builds, and even if you're good, you still have weaknesses that the enemy can find ways to play around. _Pressing R on your Ally when they die and bringing them back to full HP is hard, As is Pressing W on your ally whenever W is up for free heals and damage. Im sure._ {{sticker:sg-lulu}}
> [{quoted}](name=ChaddyFantome,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vO37Q6u8,comment-id=000b0004,timestamp=2018-04-21T03:54:04.281+0000) > > _Pressing R on your Ally when they die and bringing them back to full HP is hard, > As is Pressing W on your ally whenever W is up for free heals and damage. Im sure._ > {{sticker:sg-lulu}} Sorry you gotta time it because using it too soon will render your ult useless. While some others if you use your ult too soon, you'd still get away.
: Well mumu does have a disarm on his ult.
His passive used to make enemies lose MR upon touching, now it's reworked to make him and allies deal more magic damage upon touching. Technically Amumu's passive still makes some thematic sense.
: > [{quoted}](name=Cancerous Lulu,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vGyZmy8o,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2018-04-20T06:52:13.751+0000) > > they think adcs are "whiny bitches **in game**" > > meanwhile whenever i play my adcs act like normal people even though i am the one making dumb mistakes. the ones who throw tantrums are actually mages because they cant have a perfect game > > downvote me for having a different experience, go for it :^) {{champion:67}} {{champion:119}}
> [{quoted}](name=Craft Zeppelin,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=vGyZmy8o,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2018-04-20T07:46:34.281+0000) > > {{champion:67}} {{champion:119}} sorry to break it to u they also act like normal people
: Again do research instead of face value, unless you'd like people to treat you as such. Those comments in the second half are by marksmen mains, but since you want to be willfully ignorant, then I'l quote the most obvious one. > [{quoted}](name=TheWayneStain,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=QrW2FTAd,comment-id=0042,timestamp=2018-04-18T01:39:26.767+0000) > > BUFF LUCIAN!
or thats because lucian is in a pretty shitty spot right now iirc
: For the board that claims ADCs are a class that bitches all the time
they think adcs are "whiny bitches **in game**" meanwhile whenever i play my adcs act like normal people even though i am the one making dumb mistakes. the ones who throw tantrums are actually mages because they cant have a perfect game downvote me for having a different experience, go for it :^)
: ADCs are fine
Oh no, someone just said the truth! Burn this witch! /s
: Since Riot is ramping up the VGUs even more...
While I like your list and how much time you spent to make this thread, a lot of champs you listed *actually don't need new visuals*. Don't confuse "Gameplay Update" with "Visual and Gameplay Update", because some champs got *great* visuals, but horrendous kits. But do they still need a gameplay rework to some extent? Oh hell yeah, that's where most of us can agree on.
: It might be unpopular in many players perspectives about balancing around pro play but...
I think people are more worried about high elo soloQ (d2~challenger) and the fact that it's often ignored.
: lot of supps will be hit by the mana changes. + spellthief not giving mana will likely make enchanters miss mana
So far, only Zilean, Zyra, and Brand got their base mana tweaked, and only one of them is classified as an actual support. A big reason is to address waveclear patterns midlane. The only support item that was changed was the Spellthief's line, just so midlaners don't take it midlane and turn it into another "spellthiefs midlane meta". Mana regen as a stat for supports won't go anywhere unless they decide to touch things like Censer, Redemption, Mikael's, and even Athene's. Now I do know that it might be something Riot will work in the next cycle, but I highly doubt they're gonna do much about it.
: You guys have been complaining about powercreep since the start of the season
they just want ADCs to be removed from the game completely kappa this is boards for u :^)
: How is this an "unpopular opinion"? This is almost exclusively the opinion shared on the boards.
It used to be "unpopular opinion" back on Boards because back then, picking tanks were disadvantageous in pro play. I can see why OP calls it "unpopular opinion".
: Riot, I'm concerned that the mana changes will put us back where we started.
Supports... *what*? The only notable change for supports is the mana regen removal on spellthiefs. Am I missing something? {{sticker:sg-lux-2}}
: Mana changes were unavoidable
If I read things correctly, it was just mages getting *slightly* less mana at ~~level 1~~ higher levels?
Seen (NA)
: Unpopular opinion: I support the upcoming mana rework
I'm actually worried about spellthief nerfs and how it would make people buy coin more, therefore enforcing another afk farming meta. But we'll find out.
Konotori (NA)
: It's hard to want to keep playing.
I feel ya, because I've been through that stage. One day you'll be like me and actually quit the game, and go back to the forums just to mine for salt. I've been trying to find reasons to play and get back into League, but a lot of bullshit since season 7 are holding me back. And I play nothing but enchanters, who are supposed to be one of the "better supports" since the time I stopped actively playing. Save yourself trouble, and find something else to play. Even grinding in MMOs have more value.
Rylalei (EUNE)
: @Riot What was the reason to NOT keep the illusions on LeBlanc's reverted ult
Old LB mains/players bitched about new LB. Riot listened. Instead of fine-tune so that she doesn't become the "finish game in 30 minutes or 4v5" champion, they gave up. Good ol' Riot.
: Do you guys still have any hope for mid season?
I don't have expectations from Riot, so no. I'm just a salty enchanter main that wants skill expression into enchanters, and it won't be happening anytime soon. Otherwise, blindly grinding out in MMOs have more value.
: This picture emphasizes how I view the mana changes on PBE
For those that are wondering what the Chinese says, Lux is basically saying she's hungry. I see what you did there. She's gonna be *hungry* for mana.
: @Riot, Please consider bringing back some of the classic parts of League...
One day when poke lanes are actually poke lanes again, and not kill lanes in disguise.
Nooduls (NA)
: Is there a place where I can access UV maps of champions?
I used LoLking as *the* resource for animations and ingame models, it helps a lot when I wanted to draw something or visualize how someone poses for his abilities. That's the closest thing I can think of, but an "official" one sounds like a *great* idea.
: What's taken the fun out of league for you?
"Metagame or troll" in low elo. Okay, fine, I'll narrow it down to gold/silver. My favorite examples are when you are an enchanter, don't rush Ardent the very first thing, you're trolling. Lethality meta? If you are not an ADC who can abuse lethality or super long range, you're trolling because you're just gonna get picked off and remain practically useless. It's still somewhat possible today, but you have to try much harder to climb with it, where back then you can take an idiot to go offmeta, and still win easily. Another one would be how you have to "play perfect or die and lose" **even in low elo**. That has long been a thing in the highest tiers of play, but the moment it spreads to low elo, you know something's *fishy* with balance. Adding more risks only make games feel more "unfun" to play or even watch, especially in pro play. Though I do have a somewhat biased reason for quitting League, and that would be the fact that Lulu support went from "borderline troll pick" to "braindead meta sheep". People used to not be as hostile towards onetricks, but nowadays people troll 50% of the time just because they saw one. Cut me some slack, I'm just a nobody in gold 5.
: As a raka player, if {{item:3504}} gave movespeed instead of attackspeed on heal/shield, it would still help adcs kite but it'd be way more universal and helpful to the rest of the team. Not only that, it would make the item a strategic choice that changes your abilities and how you look at them "oh look we're getting ganked, let's try to out run them, I'll start healing" or "Let's haste our darius so he can go in and land a good apprehend". Instead it's been reworked SPECIFICALLY with Janna in mind because it was reworked by a janna main who also reworked Janna at the same time. Making the item feel super "we gotta enforce da adc meta".
While that's a good idea, it would basically render Shruleya's Reverie/Talisman sorta useless.
: As a support, I think this season is okay but it could be better for everyone.
If enchanter meta were decided by supports who didn't just autobind 24/7 and turn people who used to main such champs before Ardent Censer meta into brainless meta sheep... What a dream. Okay, personal salt aside, but one thing to note. Any item giving away free stats will create the same kinds of disaster that the Ardent meta made, so Athene's giving free AP isn't the best idea. Might be a personal standpoint, but I think Athene's direction is actually okay, since it still requires some form of skill expression involved. Instead of blindly shielding (which Ardent encourages before it got changed), or blindly DPS-ing, players have to find a balance in between both to fully utilize its passive potential. People overlooked its passive mainly because of how "little" it healed in comparison to present-day shields.
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