: Permanently Banned, was this enough to ban me permanently? Is this fair?
Honestly, I don't think you deserve a perma ban lmfao. People are just too sensitive now a days. I never seen a game where you can't throw shade at other people until i started playing league. Ive seen people say way worse and not get perma banned lmfao. What happens is you probably got 14 day banned and then when you got unbanned you said 1 trigger word which got you perma banned. Highly unfortunate my friend.
Krigjer (NA)
: > ...If someone mains Zed and buy all the Zed skins, they wont buy another skin until another Zed skin comes out. So lets say they are toxic as fuck and get banned... they will most likely come back and repurchase all their Zed skins that they previously lost due to being banned..... Unless their toxicity drove someone to quit. Say someone that routinely purchased skins for a number of champions they enjoy. That player had such a negative experience with so many trolls that they no longer want to play. Riot loses THEIR revenue, of someone that possibly buys 3-4 skins every month, as opposed to that toxic player only purchasing every Zed skin maybe twice in total (once for the original account, once for their second after the initial ban.) Regardless, this is all speculation considering we don't have the actual data or numbers. But I _do_ remember Riot mentioning potential profit from an otherwise happy player being higher than a banned player simply repurchasing skins. I'll reiterate- I think 'Riot FORCES banned accounts so they'll potentially buy skins again!' is a dumb argument. Agree to disagree.
> [{quoted}](name=Krigjer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0004000200000000,timestamp=2019-10-11T03:12:29.809+0000) > > Unless their toxicity drove someone to quit. Say someone that routinely purchased skins for a number of champions they enjoy. > > That player had such a negative experience with so many trolls that they no longer want to play. Riot loses THEIR revenue, of someone that possibly buys 3-4 skins every month, as opposed to that toxic player only purchasing every Zed skin maybe twice in total (once for the original account, once for their second after the initial ban.) > > > Regardless, this is all speculation considering we don't have the actual data or numbers. But I _do_ remember Riot mentioning potential profit from an otherwise happy player being higher than a banned player simply repurchasing skins. > I'll reiterate- I think 'Riot FORCES banned accounts so they'll potentially buy skins again!' is a dumb argument. Agree to disagree. That makes sense! I didn't even look at it that way. That's a very solid point.
: I played top lane. I was getting wrecked and dived. My team flamed and pinged me, even though I asked for some assistance. I got fed up with it, so I grabbed some tape, taped my right mouse button down and set my character to run down mid. Ended the game with 28 deaths and got 14 days right after.
> [{quoted}](name=RegardsKitty,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000c,timestamp=2019-10-10T11:39:13.638+0000) > > I played top lane. I was getting wrecked and dived. My team flamed and pinged me, even though I asked for some assistance. I got fed up with it, so I grabbed some tape, taped my right mouse button down and set my character to run down mid. Ended the game with 28 deaths and got 14 days right after. LOOOL, thats hardcore dude holy fk.
: I was getting flamed pretty hard after having a bad laning phase. Tried to explain calmly at first but the team would not let up on me, so I told them all to go fuck themselves, asked them how many blowjobs they had to give before their dad let them on the computer, etc. As far as if I deserved it? Sure, of course, I broke the rules. I just happen to think the rules are stupid, and if someone flames that should be a green like to talk all the shit you want back to them.
> [{quoted}](name=VampiricLlama,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000b,timestamp=2019-10-10T04:40:32.191+0000) > > I was getting flamed pretty hard after having a bad laning phase. Tried to explain calmly at first but the team would not let up on me, so I told them all to go fuck themselves, asked them how many blowjobs they had to give before their dad let them on the computer, etc. > > As far as if I deserved it? Sure, of course, I broke the rules. I just happen to think the rules are stupid, and if someone flames that should be a green like to talk all the shit you want back to them. I agree, Ive never played a game where you cant flame people except this one. Honestly I think its funny when people talk shit in game. Riot should just add in game voice chat so you can talk to all your team mates. I dont know why riot hasnt added that feature yet lmfao. Fucking stupid
: Played on a faulty computer back when I was a kid that would crash out of games for a minute or two every so often, eventually got leaverbustered for I think 14 days? Been so long I don't actually recall. Felt bad at the time because I wasn't trying to ruin anyone's game, it was just the only thing I had to play on, but now I'm not a little kid I can get with it.
> [{quoted}](name=AccurateYeet,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000d,timestamp=2019-10-10T11:49:10.438+0000) > > Played on a faulty computer back when I was a kid that would crash out of games for a minute or two every so often, eventually got leaverbustered for I think 14 days? Been so long I don't actually recall. Felt bad at the time because I wasn't trying to ruin anyone's game, it was just the only thing I had to play on, but now I'm not a little kid I can get with it. That sucks dude, getting banned for something out of your control...
Smudgè (NA)
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> [{quoted}](name=Smudgè,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000e,timestamp=2019-10-10T13:46:49.844+0000) > > I have 9 banned accounts. Mostly due to counter-flame, and just being young and arrogant. League is complete garbage at handling trolls though. I'd rather have somebody verbally abuse the shit out of me than have some idiot die 5 times to Riven in lane, and not caring after the 2nd death. Damn bro!!! 9 perma banned accounts!! Thats insane!! Youre a beast LOL
Krigjer (NA)
: > Permanent bans are just another shady business tactic employed by Riot. My boyfriend was incredibly toxic ingame, even towards me. He was banned years ago, and he's never come back to the game. Obviously everyone is different- being banned was the push he needed to quit, while for others they genuinely enjoy the game but simply can't stop themselves from being assholes. I think the argument that banning toxic accounts drives profits is an absurd one. It's supposed to be a punishment- either you treat your fellow players like human beings, or you lose your account, and everything you've earned or spent. They can't control if players just make new accounts, and especially not if they buy their favourite skins again.
> [{quoted}](name=Krigjer,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=00040002,timestamp=2019-10-10T14:13:19.650+0000) > > My boyfriend was incredibly toxic ingame, even towards me. He was banned years ago, and he's never come back to the game. > Obviously everyone is different- being banned was the push he needed to quit, while for others they genuinely enjoy the game but simply can't stop themselves from being assholes. > > I think the argument that banning toxic accounts drives profits is an absurd one. > It's supposed to be a punishment- either you treat your fellow players like human beings, or you lose your account, and everything you've earned or spent. They can't control if players just make new accounts, and especially not if they buy their favourite skins again. I see, thats good that it helped him quit. I do have to agree to disagree as well. Yeah being banned is supposed to be a punishment but no business does something that loses them revenue. Lets put this in perspective. If Riot games never banned anyone and everyone that created an account keeps the same account and never creates a new one. They will buy all the skins they like/want and then riot loses revenue because over time that same player wont buy new skins lol. If someone mains Zed and buy all the Zed skins, they wont buy another skin until another Zed skin comes out. So lets say they are toxic as fuck and get banned... they will most likely come back and repurchase all their Zed skins that they previously lost due to being banned. Now lets produce this is in larger scale... The banning system and account locking system. Lets do some quick math, if the statistic that puts out that only ".006" of players get banned (which is complete bullshit) out of 8 million concurrent players, that means only 48,000 people get perma banned. 48,000 players lets say that 48,000 players spend on average $500 on league which is being pretty conservative considering ive read a lot of stuff saying people have spent over $1,000 on this game. That means that riot has made $24,000,000 in microtransactions off of 48,000 players theoretically. Lets say only 50% of these players return to league and make another account, they will probably spend another $500 on the game which means 24,000 players return and spend on average $500 each again. That makes riot an additional $12,000,000. Riot wins. According to articles online, riot made over $1 billion dollars in revenue alone from microtransactions. Its pretty genius business model. Free to play game, but hey buy this awesome skin that does nothing for you but makes you feel good! Then you curse someone out because they are being a dick head and then boom banned! Hey you can always make another account... and dont forget to purchase all your favorite skins again xDDD
: I got perma banned and now I have several accounts, none of which I behave that much differently on. The one that I had permabanned was my first account and I was bronze when I started s8 so I think it was rlly just bronze players reporting me for what I was saying bc they just literally dont know how to play the game.
> [{quoted}](name=Niggel Wessom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000f,timestamp=2019-10-10T15:30:12.850+0000) > > I got perma banned and now I have several accounts, none of which I behave that much differently on. The one that I had permabanned was my first account and I was bronze when I started s8 so I think it was rlly just bronze players reporting me for what I was saying bc they just literally dont know how to play the game. You started season 8 and have several accounts perma banned already? Thats what I like to hear!
: Our team and the other team were being super toxic to one player. That individual started swearing and throwing your moms to which everyone replied with pemaban lololol. I typed out everything explaining what was permabannable. Eight idiots reported me, I appealed and lost :/ Luckily it was my goof around account and not one with a ton of stuff on it.
> [{quoted}](name=Fail Harder,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=000a,timestamp=2019-10-10T04:17:56.325+0000) > > Our team and the other team were being super toxic to one player. That individual started swearing and throwing your moms to which everyone replied with pemaban lololol. I typed out everything explaining what was permabannable. Eight idiots reported me, I appealed and lost :/ Luckily it was my goof around account and not one with a ton of stuff on it. Highly unfortunate xD That sucks dude
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Thats just how riot is bruh.
Sucction (OCE)
: My best friend (who I always play with, and sometimes use the PC of) got lazy with improving and started using scripts for a couple of games. He played maybe 4-5 before uninstalling them. Two months later *my* account got a permaban for scripting, and to this day, his is still completely fine. Guessing it was caused by using his PC the one or two times I'd have went to his house in they time, but very weird that his account was completely unaffected. Happened 4 years ago now though, so I don't really mind anymore I suppose
> [{quoted}](name=Sucction,realm=OCE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-10-10T01:05:23.008+0000) > > My best friend (who I always play with, and sometimes use the PC of) got lazy with improving and started using scripts for a couple of games. He played maybe 4-5 before uninstalling them. > > Two months later *my* account got a permaban for scripting, and to this day, his is still completely fine. > > Guessing it was caused by using his PC the one or two times I'd have went to his house in they time, but very weird that his account was completely unaffected. > > Happened 4 years ago now though, so I don't really mind anymore I suppose Damn thats dumb as hell lol.
Tele II (NA)
: Damn. Thats a tough one. You lie about your age, and dont remember shit about the account's history. Idk man. Realistically, it sounds like you kinda fucked yourself by giving false information when you created that account. Things got a bit hard to follow in your description to be fair, so I may have just misunderstood something. I work for the government too, it doesnt mean i have some special insider knowledge where I would tell people to lie about personal information when signing up for things, as if I know theyre gonna do something nefarious with it. Do they work in intelligence? Why did they tell you to provide false information? Did they give you a reason? Like, how would tracking your information back to you be detrimental? They know your birthday?! Oh noooo! Seems like you either misinterpreted what they meant, or theyre giving you reckless advice that as you can see, is only gonna come back to bite you in the ass. Thats not your fault, thats just bad advice given by your parents, which of course youre gonna listen to. I think if I was you, I'd just keep trying until the effort isnt worth it anymore. Nothing else to do really. We cant help you.
I'm not allowed to disclose what city Im in and what not. I gotta use VPNs stuff. I know it sounds stupid but thats how it is. I have a social media but I never post anything about where I live, where I am. Stuff like that. My mom works for D.O.D and some of my family members are I believe CIA or FBI someshit like that. They work in technology counter intelligence and from what they told me, basically their job is to make sure U.S technology from companies like NASA and shit don't get stolen from enemy countries. So they are paranoid and taught me to never put anything real online lol. Theres some crazy fucks out there. Also, my family had some issues with my step family so they cant know where we are lol. So yeah this really came back to bite me in the ass. Im going to continue to make support tickets and try to get my account back because its pretty fkin bullshit dude. I spent like $800 bucks on this game over the years. Im not gonna go buy anything from riot again.
Zed genius (EUNE)
: I had a new account I was making a few years back. When I got to level 4 or 5 it just got permanently banned. I have literally no idea why to this day tbh, but since I had played like 3 games on it I didn't bother to fill in tickets.
> [{quoted}](name=Zed genius,realm=EUNE,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0008,timestamp=2019-10-09T22:22:20.012+0000) > > I had a new account I was making a few years back. When I got to level 4 or 5 it just got permanently banned. I have literally no idea why to this day tbh, but since I had played like 3 games on it I didn't bother to fill in tickets. Lmfao, wtf? Thats weird.
: I mean, if you couldn't verify that you're the original creator why shouldn't Riot lock the account?
If you had an account for over 6 years and riot asked you what were the first 5 champs you purchased, what were the first skins you got, what were the 3 things you refunded, would you be able to answer? How about the original email address you used? I created my account when I was like 12 years old. Do you think Im going to remember what email I used and what champions I first purchased lmfao? If I liked something Id ask my mom for $20 and Id go buy rp and buy the skins. They also want my credit card numbers which I dont have because I used my moms and she got different credit cards now.
: it seems like you bought the account. sorry but if riot is saying you arent the og owner you arent. Benvenuti is the name of your last game more than literally a year ago. why change your name on your "main" if you dont even play the game?
I asked riot to transfer the name Benvenuti to a level 1 account so I can start over again lol. Thats why the name was changed from Benvenuti to Canukie. I changed the name like 4 times on that account and when it got locked I requested they give me my name back which they did.
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: i had my main banned and through a ticket i got it unbanned for being perma banned. since then ive just played on this. i have the most luck with team mates on this one somehow LUL
> [{quoted}](name=1 Inch and Proud,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0007,timestamp=2019-10-09T22:00:20.691+0000) > > i had my main banned and through a ticket i got it unbanned for being perma banned. since then ive just played on this. i have the most luck with team mates on this one somehow LUL Whaaaat, how'd you manage to get your perma banned account un perma banned? Thats unheard of!!!
: dont make a smurf and/or dont admit you have one or else its the 'smallest' reason you will get 'soft' banned due to them finding the excuse to lock you out of your account.
I never even admitted to them I had a smurf lmfao. I literally made a ticket regarding a chat restriction and they noticed I had another account linked to my email or IP address or something. I dont even know how he saw my main but its some bullshit lol.
: i got 3 permabanned accounts and i deserved all of them. story is simple: had a guy troll me very obvious. stuff like "yo go in im right there" and then they walk away with full hp and go like "report this guy pls constantly inting". you know the type of troll that doesnt chat enough to get punished but knows exactly how to trigger anyone who isnt worldpeace themselfes.
> [{quoted}](name=Jennifer420,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-10-09T21:55:29.803+0000) > > i got 3 permabanned accounts and i deserved all of them. > > story is simple: had a guy troll me very obvious. stuff like "yo go in im right there" and then they walk away with full hp and go like "report this guy pls constantly inting". > > you know the type of troll that doesnt chat enough to get punished but knows exactly how to trigger anyone who isnt worldpeace themselfes. Yeah, that sucks lol. I dont even know what the trigger words are lol. I feel like riot just bans anyone and everyone. That statistic that says "youre amonst the .000000000000004% of toxic players in league!!!" xDDD such bullcrap
: The problem with that is you will keep getting trolls, The riot ban system FORCES YOU to learn how to swallow all that anger towards a troll, because if you dont you are the one getting banned and banned and eventually permabanned. Instead of looking for ways to punish trolls so that actually stops. Which i will admit...is very difficult to do because you never really know when someone is trolling or actually having a bad game (if you are inside the game its pretty obvious tho, and some guys pretty muchsay "Im inting" in chat and that should do the job, but again..if you say anything to them you are getting punished aswell) and i dont mean insult them....YOU CAN get banned if you ask for reports or surrender votes..even doe you have a troll and you want to leave that torturing experience..YOU ARE griefing and giving up. And thats reportable. IN CONCLUSION: i know i deserved a ban for actually insulting people..which is not nice. I deserved the first permaban i got...i said some pretty nasty stuff to some people. But after learning not to insult, ive been banned for saying "gg this guy is trolling Im out" Or " please report X guy, he didtn want to go supp so he locked riven and came top with me" thats just straight BS.. literally i have screenshots of chat restrictions where i literally just said that...and it GETS YOU BANNED.
> [{quoted}](name=U All Muted,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-10-09T20:54:31.972+0000) > > The problem with that is you will keep getting trolls, The riot ban system FORCES YOU to learn how to swallow all that anger towards a troll, because if you dont you are the one getting banned and banned and eventually permabanned. Instead of looking for ways to punish trolls so that actually stops. > Which i will admit...is very difficult to do because you never really know when someone is trolling or actually having a bad game (if you are inside the game its pretty obvious tho, and some guys pretty muchsay "Im inting" in chat and that should do the job, but again..if you say anything to them you are getting punished aswell) and i dont mean insult them....YOU CAN get banned if you ask for reports or surrender votes..even doe you have a troll and you want to leave that torturing experience..YOU ARE griefing and giving up. And thats reportable. > > > IN CONCLUSION: i know i deserved a ban for actually insulting people..which is not nice. I deserved the first permaban i got...i said some pretty nasty stuff to some people. > > But after learning not to insult, ive been banned for saying "gg this guy is trolling Im out" > Or " please report X guy, he didtn want to go supp so he locked riven and came top with me" > thats just straight BS.. literally i have screenshots of chat restrictions where i literally just said that...and it GETS YOU BANNED. Yup, riot system at its finest!! XD I dont understand why riot just unbans all the perma banned accounts and removes this toxicity system. Most games dont have this reporting bullcrap. They should have something like CSGO where players can view the game and decide if the person deserves to be punished for trolling or inting in a game lol.
Hotarµ (NA)
: Pretty standard story surrounding my permaban. I was toxic, kept flaming back when people flamed me, ignored the warnings, and got permabanned for it. :p Since then I had another account brought to a 14-day ban and that's when I stopped being an asshole (for lack of a better term lol) Ever since then, this account has been completely pure and the last one has reverted to a clean slate. My time with League has become _much_ more enjoyable, too.
> [{quoted}](name=Hotarµ,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-10-09T21:00:41.361+0000) > > Pretty standard story surrounding my permaban. > > I was toxic, kept flaming back when people flamed me, ignored the warnings, and got permabanned for it. :p > > Since then I had another account brought to a 14-day ban and that's when I stopped being an asshole (for lack of a better term lol) Ever since then, this account has been completely pure and the last one has reverted to a clean slate. My time with League has become _much_ more enjoyable, too. Thats great to hear man! Im glad you reformed. Just be careful and dont flame anyone cuz riot will perma ban you on site lmfao. They prob have some sort of system that is like "hes been 14 day banned, any sign of toxicity, just perma ban on site!!!!"
: I think the real thing we need people to share is how much money people have spent since Riot banned their original account. Did you buy your favourite skin again? We, need to once and for all prove that the "permanent" ban system is just another profit driver for Riot. If permanent bans actually caused Riot to lose money (through players actually leaving), Riot wouldnt do it, but they know a large portion of banned players will continue to make another acc and spend more money. Permanent bans are just another shady business tactic employed by Riot.
> [{quoted}](name=ChrisBrownze,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-10-09T21:24:28.887+0000) > > I think the real thing we need people to share is how much money people have spent since Riot banned their original account. Did you buy your favourite skin again? We, need to once and for all prove that the "permanent" ban system is just another profit driver for Riot. > > If permanent bans actually caused Riot to lose money (through players actually leaving), Riot wouldnt do it, but they know a large portion of banned players will continue to make another acc and spend more money. > > Permanent bans are just another shady business tactic employed by Riot. Yup, Ive spent over $800 on my main account and it got locked for "suspicious activity" lmfao. I asked riot to help me with an issue on my smurf and they noticed I had a main account and they decided to lock it for suspicious activity. I dont remember like any of the answers to the recovery questions. Guess im fucked!
: I got a chat restriction recently and i know i deserved it..i got an account permabanned many years ago for flaming trolls and bad players, and i know i deserved that too. The ban system works great against toxic people or flamers. My problem with it is people that troll your games and make you lose on purpose go away with it. Take this situation: A guy gets autofilled support...he doesnt want to, so he locks in tryndamere with ghost and cleanse, and just goes midlane and gives 3 kills then runs around the map...he is literally trolling your game..but he can say he is trying a "new strat" and nothing will happen to him...trust me, its just that one game he got autofilled and trolled the rest of his games he can play normally and keep a good score...even get honor 5 tier...he took 4 people LP and NOTHING happened to him. BUT if you say one bad word to him...insult him once or say one toxic thing to him...or call for reports (which he prob deserves) YOU ARE THE ONE GETTING BANNED. All you can do is just shut up and endure 20+ minutes of torture because he will vote no to surrender votes. And endure the enemy team making fun of you and probably thanking tryndamere for trolling. (Like i said he is not getting banned for 1 game of doing this) so all you can do is not flame him and swallow your anger because 1 game of YOU flaming WILL get you banned. THAT my friend is the major flaw with league right now..
> [{quoted}](name=U All Muted,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=IuqAwdWK,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-10-09T20:38:06.165+0000) > > I got a chat restriction recently and i know i deserved it..i got an account permabanned many years ago for flaming trolls and bad players, and i know i deserved that too. The ban system works great against toxic people or flamers. > > My problem with it is people that troll your games and make you lose on purpose go away with it. > > Take this situation: > A guy gets autofilled support...he doesnt want to, so he locks in tryndamere with ghost and cleanse, and just goes midlane and gives 3 kills then runs around the map...he is literally trolling your game..but he can say he is trying a "new strat" and nothing will happen to him...trust me, its just that one game he got autofilled and trolled the rest of his games he can play normally and keep a good score...even get honor 5 tier...he took 4 people LP and NOTHING happened to him. > BUT if you say one bad word to him...insult him once or say one toxic thing to him...or call for reports (which he prob deserves) YOU ARE THE ONE GETTING BANNED. > > All you can do is just shut up and endure 20+ minutes of torture because he will vote no to surrender votes. And endure the enemy team making fun of you and probably thanking tryndamere for trolling. > (Like i said he is not getting banned for 1 game of doing this) so all you can do is not flame him and swallow your anger because 1 game of YOU flaming WILL get you banned. > > > > THAT my friend is the major flaw with league right now.. Yeah man, I totally agree with you. That really sucks dude. People troll super hard in game and its like you cant say shit otherwise buh bye, youre banned!! hahaha riots banning system so stupid. I think actually trolling and ruining someones game is worse than flaming them honestly.
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