: Out of the recent(last 1-2 years) releases or reworks
{{champion:350}} delete {{champion:84}} {{champion:266}} revert {{champion:516}} rework {{champion:25}} bring back old voice with new lines not this whiny teen personality
: Rengar looks kinda derpy.
> [{quoted}](name=ARandomRedneck,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=4n9WcEgq,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-27T21:26:46.821+0000) > > Rengar looks kinda derpy. looks like weird wow artist rendition of rengar vs kha tbh I feel like they coulda done way better
: Can I get a toggle for BA Ezreal and Dark Cosmic Jhin too? Their form changes are too cool to be ignored too, after all. The form changes aren't supposed to be permanent. That's what makes these skins special.
> [{quoted}](name=4 Step Cadence,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rLyNH4mW,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-27T23:33:48.907+0000) > > Can I get a toggle for BA Ezreal and Dark Cosmic Jhin too? Their form changes are too cool to be ignored too, after all. > > The form changes aren't supposed to be permanent. That's what makes these skins special. {{champion:266}} {{champion:145}} *laughs in free variation*
gg easy (NA)
: RE-DO the "edgy" star guardian theme
Nope I like it, Rakan trying to be edgy is adorable
Hordes66 (NA)
: If they don't like what you said, its low effort.
> [{quoted}](name=Hordes66,realm=NA,application-id=RaE1aOE7,discussion-id=JY7HZskG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-25T16:47:48.850+0000) > > If they don't like what you said, its low effort. lmao I kinda figured after not getting a response after 2 months either that or they seriously thinkin hard af bout life rn
: The answer to that of course is Erza Scarlet from Fairy tail. All other waifus are intrinsically inferior. https://i.redd.it/0t3mx75e64g11.jpg https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/9ad8fbc8-aee8-4e92-a04b-6abf7a036a51/d8kop4e-ad3e8ee8-3bde-4e66-965f-c4b0bb9983c5.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzlhZDhmYmM4LWFlZTgtNGU5Mi1hMDRiLTZhYmY3YTAzNmE1MVwvZDhrb3A0ZS1hZDNlOGVlOC0zYmRlLTRlNjYtOTY1Zi1jNGIwYmI5OTgzYzUuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.SQuZkL9ES3uBTrZ0eS1ty4FX7iBr2nnP91m5cGRBySU https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/9ad8fbc8-aee8-4e92-a04b-6abf7a036a51/db8ckam-8d547504-4d86-4da1-ae62-0f85af284694.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzlhZDhmYmM4LWFlZTgtNGU5Mi1hMDRiLTZhYmY3YTAzNmE1MVwvZGI4Y2thbS04ZDU0NzUwNC00ZDg2LTRkYTEtYWU2Mi0wZjg1YWYyODQ2OTQuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8x7nqzL54xvcgUbXACj8l5qWJC62aDzuyw3Gj7LXRsU
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BuZP0Eul,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-25T07:00:06.616+0000) > > The answer to that of course is Erza Scarlet from Fairy tail. All other waifus are intrinsically inferior. > > > https://i.redd.it/0t3mx75e64g11.jpg > > > https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/9ad8fbc8-aee8-4e92-a04b-6abf7a036a51/d8kop4e-ad3e8ee8-3bde-4e66-965f-c4b0bb9983c5.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzlhZDhmYmM4LWFlZTgtNGU5Mi1hMDRiLTZhYmY3YTAzNmE1MVwvZDhrb3A0ZS1hZDNlOGVlOC0zYmRlLTRlNjYtOTY1Zi1jNGIwYmI5OTgzYzUuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.SQuZkL9ES3uBTrZ0eS1ty4FX7iBr2nnP91m5cGRBySU > > https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/9ad8fbc8-aee8-4e92-a04b-6abf7a036a51/db8ckam-8d547504-4d86-4da1-ae62-0f85af284694.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7InBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzlhZDhmYmM4LWFlZTgtNGU5Mi1hMDRiLTZhYmY3YTAzNmE1MVwvZGI4Y2thbS04ZDU0NzUwNC00ZDg2LTRkYTEtYWU2Mi0wZjg1YWYyODQ2OTQuanBnIn1dXSwiYXVkIjpbInVybjpzZXJ2aWNlOmZpbGUuZG93bmxvYWQiXX0.8x7nqzL54xvcgUbXACj8l5qWJC62aDzuyw3Gj7LXRsU Hmmmmmmmmmmmm I would say Erza is good.... but................ https://statici.behindthevoiceactors.com/behindthevoiceactors/_img/chars/triss-merigold-the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-22.4.jpg https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DC0Q8YrUAAAz8Y0.jpg https://scontent-sin6-1.cdninstagram.com/vp/54a2ae87e5d64b9574dd1994832be69e/5DB66C53/t51.2885-15/e35/62265495_137260254031421_3163436077015353909_n.jpg?_nc_ht=scontent-sin6-1.cdninstagram.com https://i.ytimg.com/vi/95t9TfaN5HQ/maxresdefault.jpg is it that good (-Lux cuz shes not on the list of waifus) Badass sure, but waifu? and TOP TIER WAIFU????
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BuZP0Eul,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T01:36:40.850+0000) > > you do know those aren't characters right? just generalizations of where characters can be found from....? I'm saying characters from them. Not saying an exact one but the best places to find them
> [{quoted}](name=saphireflame123,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BuZP0Eul,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-25T03:58:01.959+0000) > > I'm saying characters from them. Not saying an exact one but the best places to find them https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/062/68/aabe4e0fe635e508-e1490304349905-800x400.jpg
: ***
> [{quoted}](name=saphireflame123,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=BuZP0Eul,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-25T01:35:25.030+0000) > > Definitely either League of Legends or Anime. > > Since I don't watch Anime I'm gonna go with League of Legends. you do know those aren't characters right? just generalizations of where characters can be found from....?
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=000600010000,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:22:01.818+0000) > > Nope Kayle is wrong morgana is right, and nicer than kayle who killed her own dad cuz she dumb actually not true Kayle did not kill her dad
> [{quoted}](name=BrightWîngs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=0006000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T22:24:04.962+0000) > > actually not true Kayle did not kill her dad she literally incinerated him like she did a good chunk of old Demacia in her meaningless fight with Morgana
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nLgLJazN,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T16:14:03.319+0000) > > {{champion:266}} {{champion:64}} got the shit side of that record To be honest Aatrox's VO isn't bad at all, putting aside some of the edgy over-repetitive lines he has some really deep meaningful lines... > * "Tricked into this existence... False slave entrapped by endless life! I shall become a beast feeding on their destruction, and making them lament my unholy birth!" * "I have no goodness left, it was taken from me, stolen! I... am the nemesis of life." * "How far I have fallen! A god... reduced to a prisoner!" * "Once in noble battle, I screamed against the silence. I stood as light against the darkness. Now, I serve a new master... oblivion..." * "See what beasts they have reduced us to... Creatures of flesh sustained only by this filth's blood and form!" * "Where I was excellence, I am deformed... Recast poorly with these crude materials. But this abomination of flesh well serves my murderous intent." * "I am but an unholy copy of life... A mockery of its freedom... And born in the cruel betrayal of the noble ideals I would've served." * "I touched the stars, and saw the glorious light of a thousand suns! Now, blinded by this elegance, how could my purpose be anything... but dark..." * "We march to battle... Let me carve flesh, let me cloak myself in the slaughter! Hide me in their carnage... Hide me from this suffering..." * "I will have silence." * "This is the silence I seek."
> [{quoted}](name=BLIGHTBRINGER,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nLgLJazN,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T21:36:17.546+0000) > > To be honest Aatrox's VO isn't bad at all, putting aside some of the edgy over-repetitive lines he has some really deep meaningful lines... > > * "Tricked into this existence... False slave entrapped by endless life! I shall become a beast feeding on their destruction, and making them lament my unholy birth!" > > * "I have no goodness left, it was taken from me, stolen! I... am the nemesis of life." > > * "How far I have fallen! A god... reduced to a prisoner!" > > * "Once in noble battle, I screamed against the silence. I stood as light against the darkness. Now, I serve a new master... oblivion..." > > * "See what beasts they have reduced us to... Creatures of flesh sustained only by this filth's blood and form!" > > * "Where I was excellence, I am deformed... Recast poorly with these crude materials. But this abomination of flesh well serves my murderous intent." > > * "I am but an unholy copy of life... A mockery of its freedom... And born in the cruel betrayal of the noble ideals I would've served." > > * "I touched the stars, and saw the glorious light of a thousand suns! Now, blinded by this elegance, how could my purpose be anything... but dark..." > > * "We march to battle... Let me carve flesh, let me cloak myself in the slaughter! Hide me in their carnage... Hide me from this suffering..." > > * "I will have silence." > > * "This is the silence I seek." I'm not talking about WHAT they say What they say is totally fine S+ lore additions Doesn't mean I like the whole transition from "Cool edgelord who likes his job a little too much" to "I WANNA BE IN THE WWE FOR MURDER DEMONS" legit the amount of change in some of the Voice casting choices can be jarring and is unwelcome in my opinion Its not like we're going from Liam Neeson to Russell Crowe, its like going from Liam Neeson to Terry Crews, like if it were a new character the completely different style of voice would be welcome but when the same character feels like their whole demeanor gets flipped on its head thats a hard pass for me
: ??
> [{quoted}](name=uidgwsjckdcgs,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=0goEp3Vp,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-24T19:30:52.803+0000) > > ?? I read waifu and thought that I would have to explain the true waifu of runeterra but well.... wrong type of waifu's i see
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:28:43.168+0000) > > Morg>Kayle > why? > Because morg is more relatable > *cant sleep over Greedfall hype* Kayle will always be the one whos right though :)
> [{quoted}](name=BrightWîngs,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=00060001,timestamp=2019-08-24T20:16:48.686+0000) > > Kayle will always be the one whos right though :) Nope Kayle is wrong morgana is right, and nicer than kayle who killed her own dad cuz she dumb
: As long as they keep the same voice actor i'm down. I can't really imagine Soraka with a different voice actor because it would just feel so alienating.
> [{quoted}](name=BLIGHTBRINGER,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nLgLJazN,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-24T17:20:21.014+0000) > > As long as they keep the same voice actor i'm down. I can't really imagine Soraka with a different voice actor because it would just feel so alienating. yeah
: Champion Patterns: cosmic hints
Its almost like targon and celestials can "call upon the stars"..... oh wait
: tbh they have a decent track record with VO's IMO new {{champion:80}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:83}} where pretty good where they seem to hit a bad spot is the actual kits but meh i guess its up for debate
> [{quoted}](name=CasterGilgamesh,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=nLgLJazN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-24T14:22:09.721+0000) > > tbh they have a decent track record with VO's IMO new {{champion:80}} {{champion:50}} {{champion:83}} where pretty good where they seem to hit a bad spot is the actual kits but meh i guess its up for debate {{champion:266}} {{champion:64}} got the shit side of that record
: What's the tradeoff for Qiyana's low ultimate cooldown on such a high utility spell?
the fact that your ult is jack shit useless if there are no walls around
: want to join waifuteam?
FCK I was clickbaited again
: Would you rather we were dota where _every_ champ is balanced around pro?
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=OdEOR6HX,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-22T06:13:43.667+0000) > > Would you rather we were dota where _every_ champ is balanced around pro? I'd rather pro's experience the shit we go through "Holy shit thats broken in my elo but no other elo why is this allowed" Fuck pro play Balance for the community as a whole and let the pro players go through the same shit everyone else has to deal with
: Zaun and Piltover
> [{quoted}](name=Chembaron Yamada,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=FO8MrxdX,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2019-08-23T08:08:55.764+0000) > > Zaun and Piltover {{champion:254}} stories and im in
: Soraka's VO & Lore
I don't want them to butcher soraka's voice like they did some of their other champs so no thank you
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:28:43.168+0000) > > Morg>Kayle > why? > Because morg is more relatable > *cant sleep over Greedfall hype* Kayle is also a genocidal tyrant while Morgana is a big tiddy goth gf
> [{quoted}](name=Laughing Fish,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=Qod2mumu,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2019-08-24T07:30:20.488+0000) > > Kayle is also a genocidal tyrant while Morgana is a big tiddy goth gf and kayle is a vegetable, i hate vegetables
: Galio is the Perfect Example of Modern League
When you read something and at first you like "what the fuck?" then you reread that shit and are like "HELLA MAD FACTS UP IN THIS JOINT"
GROMMI (NA)
: I'm okay with this. Part of the reason I desire Eternals is, strangely, because they have a price attached to them. It's more unique that way, and I enjoy being more unique. As special cookie as it is, I will take the time to learn off meta picks for the sake of exclusivity. It's very valuable to me, and I prefer if not everyone has Eternals because that makes me enjoy mine more. Strange, but marketing IG
> [{quoted}](name=GROMMI,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jz00EFib,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-23T19:36:37.657+0000) > > I'm okay with this. Part of the reason I desire Eternals is, strangely, because they have a price attached to them. It's more unique that way, and I enjoy being more unique. As special cookie as it is, I will take the time to learn off meta picks for the sake of exclusivity. It's very valuable to me, and I prefer if not everyone has Eternals because that makes me enjoy mine more. > > Strange, but marketing IG Lol at least we'll know who to make fun of in game for wasting their money
: Morgana is just sleep deprived Kayle
Morg>Kayle why? Because morg is more relatable *cant sleep over Greedfall hype*
: Thoughts on Eternals
Hell if they made it cost BE instead I would be okay with it, but actual money for it is dumb to ask for, for what it is
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-08-19T14:06:41.951+0000) > > You do know that not every game holds your hand right? And that if you finished the opening it basically points you through to the whole rest of the main quest with ya know map markers > Plus it lets you pick what you want to play just don't be indecisive and pick a play style for the play through and its much better What you call hand-holding I call providing the player with enough information for them to make good choices that they won't sorely regret later on.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=000500000001,timestamp=2019-08-19T23:15:32.167+0000) > > What you call hand-holding I call providing the player with enough information for them to make good choices that they won't sorely regret later on. Its an open world game if you don't like that aspect, then you won't like most open world games
: I bought the Legendary edition of Skyrim for $20 in 2013 and finally tried in a few years later. I played maybe three or four hours and never tried a second play session because I was concerned that the skill/etc. choices it was giving me were filled with noob traps. I didn't like the feeling of being sure that I was doing _something_ wrong. I remember there was a cave-like dungeon with skeletons or something, and I poked around in someone's house, and I traveled around a lot not knowing where the hell I was going.
> [{quoted}](name=KFCeytron,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2019-08-19T12:58:53.943+0000) > > I bought the Legendary edition of Skyrim for $20 in 2013 and finally tried in a few years later. I played maybe three or four hours and never tried a second play session because I was concerned that the skill/etc. choices it was giving me were filled with noob traps. I didn't like the feeling of being sure that I was doing _something_ wrong. I remember there was a cave-like dungeon with skeletons or something, and I poked around in someone's house, and I traveled around a lot not knowing where the hell I was going. You do know that not every game holds your hand right? And that if you finished the opening it basically points you through to the whole rest of the main quest with ya know map markers Plus it lets you pick what you want to play just don't be indecisive and pick a play style for the play through and its much better
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2019-08-18T23:43:04.862+0000) > > I did play it without mods, I got it on Xbox 360 and couldn't do mods on it before I later got Special edition on PC > > Its a great game even without mod, not necassarily the PRETTIEST game, if skyrim had Witcher III graphics it would be amazing, the biggest problems mainly come from a lack of a karma system say like in Dishonored, as well as motivation to pick one companion over another > Personally I always ran to Riften got Grimsever and then had Mjoll follow me around because having an unkillable tank follow you around is just convenient Do you even play any game other than Skyrim? Because Skyrim was only objectively pretty at the time it was released, ie 2011 which was almost a decade ago, whereas now the base game's graphics is kind of average if we want to take all the current state of the art graphics into account. And the base game was extremely unfinished, the ones that were finished were often badly designed, and it had absolutely no QA whatsoever. Dishonoured had more Karma system than Skyrim ever did. Because there's multiple endings according to your karma. Nothing of the sort happens in Skyrim because it's fundamentally a static game in a static world suspended in eternal stasis with very little actual progression can happen, and even if they do they come with the least fanfare with nothing actually changed before immediately return to the previous state of static-ness.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-19T12:17:04.449+0000) > > Do you even play any game other than Skyrim? > > Because Skyrim was only objectively pretty at the time it was released, ie 2011 which was almost a decade ago, whereas now the base game's graphics is kind of average if we want to take all the current state of the art graphics into account. And the base game was extremely unfinished, the ones that were finished were often badly designed, and it had absolutely no QA whatsoever. > > Dishonoured had more Karma system than Skyrim ever did. Because there's multiple endings according to your karma. Nothing of the sort happens in Skyrim because it's fundamentally a static game in a static world suspended in eternal stasis with very little actual progression can happen, and even if they do they come with the least fanfare with nothing actually changed before immediately return to the previous state of static-ness. Obviously thats what i Fucking said If reading wasnt beyond you or do you not know what "lack of" means? I've played through Fallout 4, The Witcher 3, Dragon's Dogma, the Gears of War series, started Kingdom Come: Deliverance, but you're clearly bias against skyrim for some fucking reason and would probably say "The witcher 3 is an early access game" if you have the audacity to call skyrim an early access
: Try playing it without any mods. I like Skyrim myself, but you cannot deny that the base game was garbage. Bethesda gets away with releasing unfinished games with hundreds of bugs that it relies on the modding community to fix.
> [{quoted}](name=KVbqbFsC8e,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2019-08-18T23:10:40.680+0000) > > Try playing it without any mods. I like Skyrim myself, but you cannot deny that the base game was garbage. Bethesda gets away with releasing unfinished games with hundreds of bugs that it relies on the modding community to fix. I did play it without mods, I got it on Xbox 360 and couldn't do mods on it before I later got Special edition on PC Its a great game even without mod, not necassarily the PRETTIEST game, if skyrim had Witcher III graphics it would be amazing, the biggest problems mainly come from a lack of a karma system say like in Dishonored, as well as motivation to pick one companion over another Personally I always ran to Riften got Grimsever and then had Mjoll follow me around because having an unkillable tank follow you around is just convenient
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T20:24:29.716+0000) > > clearly didn't play it enough to learn how it works because it gives you multiple alternatives to solving most problems You would only say that if you only played the start of the game. Since the missions that showed up at the start of the game tend to be the only ones that have multiple solutions; and by that I mean actual multiple outcomes. Deciding to not do a quest and leave it hanging or failing it on purpose is not alternative solution to the quest. Because that's 95% the only choice you have regarding your quests, which is to say you have none; you can't even decline in getting a quest since they will force it onto you, and your only choice is to run away from them as fast as possible hoping they don't catch up to force you into a dialogue of which that dumps you the quest. It is both hilarious and sad. The quest variety aren't something to write home about too. 90% of the quest are textbook fetch quests. Quests in singleplayer RPGs are more imaginative than this. > crafting, Skyrim's system of crafting is about as streamlined as the crafting system present in MMORPGs. In fact, it's actually simpler you actually need a larger variety of materials to craft shit even in MMOs. And the alchemy and enchanting aspect in the base game could only be described as primitive and barebones; alchemy is alright and solid but it's bad because the game's combat and difficulty is so badly designed and balanced so potions can only ever either be something you outright never touch or something you spend the vast majority of every fight dumping down your throat; enchantment is just the most generic form there ever is and it's also totally useless since you need to constantly refill it ever every couple swings. > followers, They are just glorified dogs. Not even kidding, they use the same in-game logic as the dog companion you could get. They just can carry shit for you. There's nothing noteworthy about followers barring that they are a nuisance that ruin stealth, set off all the traps in the dungeon, block fucking doorways all the time, and occasionally useful such as the fact you get give them a single arrow and they'd have infinite arrows (and ranged followers is basically the only way a follower is any remotely useful since they also wouldn't be blocking the doors as much as if they were melee). > impactful choices There's second to none. Let's not kid ourselves. An impactful choice would be something like in this indie Metroidvania game called Valdis Story where ignoring certain bosses and not eliminating them within a certain time frame makes the boss invade and wipe off a whole settlement of citizen; or say, in Morrowind where you have to actually make decisions since everything have varying relationships with each other, and you can't just be the master of every technique and ability imaginable, the guild master of every guild, and the thane of every hold, the champion of all the daedra featured in Skyrim, all at the same time like you could and is encouraged to be in Skyrim. > and the community has just been making it better and better Modding should be making a good game better, not making rubbish playable or somehow the players should be the one to design the damn game since that's the dev's job.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=00010000000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T20:41:39.910+0000) > > You would only say that if you only played the start of the game. Since the missions that showed up at the start of the game tend to be the only ones that have multiple solutions; and by that I mean actual multiple outcomes. > > Deciding to not do a quest and leave it hanging or failing it on purpose is not alternative solution to the quest. Because that's 95% the only choice you have regarding your quests, which is to say you have none; you can't even decline in getting a quest since they will force it onto you, and your only choice is to run away from them as fast as possible hoping they don't catch up to force you into a dialogue of which that dumps you the quest. It is both hilarious and sad. > > The quest variety aren't something to write home about too. 90% of the quest are textbook fetch quests. Quests in singleplayer RPGs are more imaginative than this. > > Skyrim's system of crafting is about as streamlined as the crafting system present in MMORPGs. In fact, it's actually simpler you actually need a larger variety of materials to craft shit even in MMOs. And the alchemy and enchanting aspect in the base game could only be described as primitive and barebones; alchemy is alright and solid but it's bad because the game's combat and difficulty is so badly designed and balanced so potions can only ever either be something you outright never touch or something you spend the vast majority of every fight dumping down your throat; enchantment is just the most generic form there ever is and it's also totally useless since you need to constantly refill it ever every couple swings. > > They are just glorified dogs. Not even kidding, they use the same in-game logic as the dog companion you could get. > > They just can carry shit for you. There's nothing noteworthy about followers barring that they are a nuisance that ruin stealth, set off all the traps in the dungeon, block fucking doorways all the time, and occasionally useful such as the fact you get give them a single arrow and they'd have infinite arrows (and ranged followers is basically the only way a follower is any remotely useful since they also wouldn't be blocking the doors as much as if they were melee). > > There's second to none. Let's not kid ourselves. > > An impactful choice would be something like in this indie Metroidvania game called Valdis Story where ignoring certain bosses and not eliminating them within a certain time frame makes the boss invade and wipe off a whole settlement of citizen; or say, in Morrowind where you have to actually make decisions since everything have varying relationships with each other, and you can't just be the master of every technique and ability imaginable, the guild master of every guild, and the thane of every hold, the champion of all the daedra featured in Skyrim, all at the same time like you could and is encouraged to be in Skyrim. > > Modding should be making a good game better, not making rubbish playable or somehow the players should be the one to design the damn game since that's the dev's job. Played through it multiple times and you clearly have no idea what you're talking about sure the crafting isn't as in depth as say fallout or some mmos But literally the Civil war itself is a huge decision that will impact a multitude of people and places on its own Same with the companions and the events that happen in Dawnguard And sure the companions are lacking at some times but modders have been steadily working on overhauling aspects like stagnant companions, enhancing enchanting, magic, crafting, perks And even without those the game itself is more than competent on its own
Jamaree (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2019-08-18T20:22:02.031+0000) > > its an achievement system that you would have to pay for, so for people who take pride in mastery its like saying "pay to further your progress" Again, not defending it, in fact have blasted it multiple times, I'm saying you don't need it to play the game. This game at its core is still 100% free to play.
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=000400000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T20:29:34.781+0000) > > Again, not defending it, in fact have blasted it multiple times, I'm saying you don't need it to play the game. This game at its core is still 100% free to play. its still feeling more and more like electronic arts than riot games as time goes on unfortunately
SEKAI (OCE)
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:50:38.388+0000) > > Skyrim is amazing you literally have no idea what you're talking about Unless the DLCs changed it, I played the base game and hated it to my guts. Never have I played a RPG where I was actively punished for specialising my character's build in a leveling system that force you to be the master of everything or else you can't even level; never had I played a RPG where your body armour and your leg armour are the same piece that's also attached to a shockingly barren armour and weapon option diversity (ie there is no diversity at all since especially the armour is completely linear progression) it's genuinely concern whether Bethesda even knows what an action game even is; never have I played a singleplayer RPG with quests so mindblowingly dull where especially the main quest lasted only as long as half a sleep session and also made no sense while they were at it, while the side quests were certainly a lot better it wasn't that much better barring a very few selection of side question you could feel the devs actually tried and cared; never have I played a game so devoid of ANY quality control that they couldn't even get the OPENING CUTSCENE right where I was locked out of starting my very first playthrough until 2 relaunches later because Alduin wouldn't get onto that fucking tower to start my damn game, you'd think they would at least get the scripted event that's the VERY FIRST THING you see in the game working 100% but apparently not (this is to say, bugs were everywhere, including that time there were 2 critical bugs in the already laughably short main quest that you couldn't actually progress past without cheating with console commands); never have I walked through a game world so vast and yet so empty and soul-less, where "do whatever you want" may be the slogan but there is little to nothing to actually do (I also got sick of the copy paste dungeons where only the Dwemer ruins actually have any sort of originality in them); and never have I played a game where they not just screwed up random encounter so bad but they dragged DRAGONS down with it and made them absolutely appalling instead of making me excited like I SHOULD BE when I hear about dragons; and never have I played a game with swords and magic where both combat options are as dull and derivative as they are in Skyrim, I guess we could forgive the swords and arrows but certainly not magic, like how do you even make magic as boring as it is in Skyrim's base game (and the invisibility spell literally doesn't work and is somehow flat out inferior to stealth squatting that for some reason instantly makes you disappear from reality even if you squat right in front of someone in broad day light so long you pass the stat-check); etc etc. Skyrim is a clearly unfinished mess. Full of questionable design decisions that wouldn't even stand on its own even if they were to be put in a more polished and competent game, but ofc, they have to exist in a game like Skyrim where it's half-stuck in Alpha that expects the players to do the developers job of actually making the damn game; while they charge the players who actually made the game the full price for their efforts, I guess.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T20:06:46.650+0000) > > Unless the DLCs changed it, I played the base game and hated it to my guts. Never have I played a RPG where I was actively punished for specialising my character's build in a leveling system that force you to be the master of everything or else you can't even level; never had I played a RPG where your body armour and your leg armour are the same piece that's also attached to a shockingly barren armour and weapon option diversity (ie there is no diversity at all since especially the armour is completely linear progression) it's genuinely concern whether Bethesda even knows what an action game even is; never have I played a singleplayer RPG with quests so mindblowingly dull where especially the main quest lasted only as long as half a sleep session and also made no sense while they were at it, while the side quests were certainly a lot better it wasn't that much better barring a very few selection of side question you could feel the devs actually tried and cared; never have I played a game so devoid of ANY quality control that they couldn't even get the OPENING CUTSCENE right where I was locked out of starting my very first playthrough until 2 relaunches later because Alduin wouldn't get onto that fucking tower to start my damn game, you'd think they would at least get the scripted event that's the VERY FIRST THING you see in the game working 100% but apparently not (this is to say, bugs were everywhere, including that time there were 2 critical bugs in the already laughably short main quest that you couldn't actually progress past without cheating with console commands); never have I walked through a game world so vast and yet so empty and soul-less, where "do whatever you want" may be the slogan but there is little to nothing to actually do (I also got sick of the copy paste dungeons where only the Dwemer ruins actually have any sort of originality in them); and never have I played a game where they not just screwed up random encounter so bad but they dragged DRAGONS down with it and made them absolutely appalling instead of making me excited like I SHOULD BE when I hear about dragons; etc etc. > > Skyrim is a clearly unfinished mess. Full of questionable design decisions that wouldn't even stand on its own even if they were to be put in a more polished and competent game, but ofc, they have to exist in a game like Skyrim where it's half-stuck in Alpha that expects the players to do the developers job of actually making the damn game; while they charge the players who actually made the game the full price for their efforts, I guess. clearly didn't play it enough to learn how it works because it gives you multiple alternatives to solving most problems crafting, followers, impactful choices and the community has just been making it better and better
Jamaree (NA)
: While I'm not defending Eternals in the slightest, hell, straight up bashing it, Dynikus is right, you literally don't have to pay a dime to play the actual content of this game though?
> [{quoted}](name=Jamaree,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:59:55.604+0000) > > While I'm not defending Eternals in the slightest, hell, straight up bashing it, Dynikus is right, you literally don't have to pay a dime to play the actual content of this game though? its an achievement system that you would have to pay for, so for people who take pride in mastery its like saying "pay to further your progress"
: Just found out this week that there is a mod combining fallout 3 and nv, so yeah, im gonna be away from league.
> [{quoted}](name=Timethief49,realm=EUW,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:51:58.951+0000) > > Just found out this week that there is a mod combining fallout 3 and nv, so yeah, im gonna be away from league. hell yeah
SEKAI (OCE)
: Skyrim is an overpriced unfinished Early Access game that just has an overly passionate modding scene for it for some reason.
> [{quoted}](name=SEKAI,realm=OCE,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:48:56.557+0000) > > Skyrim is an overpriced unfinished Early Access game that just has an overly passionate modding scene for it for some reason. Skyrim is amazing you literally have no idea what you're talking about
Dynikus (NA)
: >I can just bring my league into skyrim AND it won't ask for my money every month Riot has literally never asked you for money to play their game.
> [{quoted}](name=Dynikus,realm=NA,application-id=Ir7ZrJjF,discussion-id=LNegJEoH,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:49:24.016+0000) > > Riot has literally never asked you for money to play their game. Eternals
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qr5hZfE4,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-08-18T18:58:41.242+0000) > > Lmao I bet the first time they saw an amumu building an AP item they were like "Reported troll" then gets a penta and the team sings praise of your glory Most Amumus are AP actually. A minority play tank, and an even smaller minority play both.
> [{quoted}](name=Beerstein,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=qr5hZfE4,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T19:27:35.889+0000) > > Most Amumus are AP actually. doesnt stop the haters though People who wonder "Why is our sion building damage" "Why is Garen building damage" etc and then pinging things because "they are the carry we should go tank"
: Athene's unholy grail in Season 9
It feels horrible losing the health regen from harmony, especially this season
Nubrac (NA)
: AP Amumu Penta and Solo Baron
Lmao I bet the first time they saw an amumu building an AP item they were like "Reported troll" then gets a penta and the team sings praise of your glory
: Karma is a free win basically.
She cant carry despite her strengths so shes not a free win
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gx6vbWPZ,comment-id=0001000100000000,timestamp=2019-08-17T21:19:01.447+0000) > > Because aram gets update frequently? Hell they even had a ya know WHOLE FUCKING EVENT FOR IT ...Are you deliberately ignoring what I previously said? Like is this actually deliberate? How the fuck can you forget one comment ago where I ***EXPLICITLY, AND SEVERAL TIMES, STATED THAT THIS HAPPENED BEFORE ARAM GOT A SINGLE FUCKING CHANGE***.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gx6vbWPZ,comment-id=00010001000000000000,timestamp=2019-08-18T00:32:03.530+0000) > > ...Are you deliberately ignoring what I previously said? Like is this actually deliberate? How the fuck can you forget one comment ago where I ***EXPLICITLY, AND SEVERAL TIMES, STATED THAT THIS HAPPENED BEFORE ARAM GOT A SINGLE FUCKING CHANGE***. Because you don't fucking make sense they are keeping Aram despite how horseshit the effort they put into it was But treeline gets scrapped So how about you word that shit better or sod off
: [Shaco] I can't believe Riot wants me to dish out 850 RP to track my backstabs, slows, and kills.
And watch it be bugged as fuck for 6 months while they scratch their heads like "Why wont people buy our 'product'"
: > [{quoted}](name=DARCKD00M,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gx6vbWPZ,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-08-16T17:42:15.414+0000) > > do you understand that it's because od riot's inactions over the years that treeline is dying and being removed....and they dare put the blame on us the players when it's clearly ALL RIOT'S FAULT IF TWISTED TREELINE LOST POPULARITY! > > thats why we are mad...the fact we are few is irrelevant...because we would be more if riot > 1- gave event tokens for TT games > 2- tried a few of the ideas people posted instead of letting the mode rot and die for many years/patches > > people just belive everything riot says, read the posts of people complaining about TT removal and you will see we are right to complain and call riot out on this bs move and the lies provided to pursue THEIR AGENDA REGARDLESS OF PLAYERS OPINION! As I literally stated, **It's not Riot's inattention to TT. We know this from fucking ARAM not being the pathetic sack of shit that Twisted Treeline was**.
> [{quoted}](name=DuskDaUmbreon,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=gx6vbWPZ,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2019-08-17T11:44:02.969+0000) > > As I literally stated, **It's not Riot's inattention to TT. We know this from fucking ARAM not being the pathetic sack of shit that Twisted Treeline was**. Because aram gets update frequently? Hell they even had a ya know WHOLE FUCKING EVENT FOR IT
enshine (NA)
: are you saying that just because of the pose and hair color?
> [{quoted}](name=enshine,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:53:24.601+0000) > > are you saying that just because of the pose and hair color? READ WATCH FUCK SAKE its self explanatory dude Zyra is boring because her kit is unreliable and stagnant and her design is uninspired Whereas Persephone takes a very similar thematic and applies it much better with a much more reliable kit
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:24:32.509+0000) > > Slooty doesnt mean fun to play I mean all you did was show a picture. If you're gonna compare kits actually show what the kit is lol.
> [{quoted}](name=Quality Content,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=000200000000,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:45:02.111+0000) > > I mean all you did was show a picture. If you're gonna compare kits actually show what the kit is lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGl6z8fEMKU there ya go
: > [{quoted}](name=Fermi Paradox,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:07:14.857+0000) > > I wish she looked more plant-like and a bit less "human with plant decorations". Like the sylvari in Guild Wars 2 for example > > That would be so awesome Which one Zyra or Persephone? Persephone looks perfect for what she is supposed to be Goddess of Plants and Queen of the Underworld Zyra could've definitely been pushed a bit harder
> [{quoted}](name=Sincarnation,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=00010001,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:46:35.214+0000) > > Which one Zyra or Persephone? > > Persephone looks perfect for what she is supposed to be Goddess of Plants and Queen of the Underworld > Zyra could've definitely been pushed a bit harder plus zyra has boring and unreliable mechanics
: > [{quoted}](name=CaptainAntiHeroz,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-08-17T19:56:35.792+0000) > > at least they got a better design than "lets make poison ivy" Zyra is a plant lady... do something unique with that...
> [{quoted}](name=Düff McWhalen,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=000000000001,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:27:31.891+0000) > > Zyra is a plant lady... do something unique with that... Acting like that hasnt been done before, I have m7 on Zyra and she's boring af to play
: I wish she looked more plant-like and a bit less "human with plant decorations". Like the sylvari in Guild Wars 2 for example That would be so awesome
> [{quoted}](name=Fermi Paradox,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XgRFpc0h,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-08-17T20:07:14.857+0000) > > I wish she looked more plant-like and a bit less "human with plant decorations". Like the sylvari in Guild Wars 2 for example > > That would be so awesome still plays better than zyra
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