: It got stated that the goal is not to remove Sona from bot lane. But if the statistics show that Sona is overperforming in that position, then they should do something about it, shouldn't they? Or do you expect Riot to sit there and accept a champion being overpowered, just because it isn't conventional and therefore they shouldn't remove it?
depends on why. I'd imagine they dont really care if its busted or not as long as her win rate with taric his that 50% mark. In fact, if a lot of ppl dont play it, they might be okay if its over that a little.
: OR just get rid of Kleptomancy as that's the ACTUAL problem with {{champion:37}} and everyone who abuses it. {{sticker:zombie-brand-facepalm}} Always nerf the champion never the thing that makes them strong.
i dont feel klepto is tht bad unless u let her poke u repeatedly.
Mctiguy (EUW)
: What about the incoming nerf on Pyke ? The champ will be totally useless after it , Solo lane or Sup he'll just die . Why don't you want him to play somewhere else than Sup ? He's an assassin after all ;-;
exactly, hell need help... The player will have to know how to work with others in order to get fed and become a reliable solo assn. He will have to understand how to teamfight in order to accomplish his multi kill dreams. Right now, pyke is too independent for a support. It works for assns like talon or leblanc because they arent loaded with cc.
: For Teamfight Tactics: Item drop rates should really be standardized (no variance) with how important they are in the game. Just keep the actual items that drop random, which will keep it so there are still "better" drops, but that you can at least work around picking up "worse" items by using the carousel to at least make items that are passable, or to try and get the most bang for your buck (miss out on recurves? Drop a Morellos on Garen/Darius or fill out a Bloodthirster, or something.) Nothing feels worse, currently, then having 0 items drop from PvE (actually had it happen where an ENTIRE GAME I only had the items from carousel -- and it was a long game as I took third,) meanwhile some lucky player is sitting on FOUR additional items after the first PvE wave.
hell be a supp like he should be.
: In Soviet Russia you don't get 3rd pass - 3rd pass gets you
lol, im dead... and sad. :(
: Same exact thing happens to me. Guess the Aurelion playerbase is too small for Riot to care {{sticker:slayer-jinx-unamused}}
I'm actually a bard main lol, I just choose him as my go to mid but still learning.
Sukishoo (NA)
: Can only purchase the LEC and LCS pass. The other passes are for other regions (Fan Pass is for Brazil, Turkey, LAN, Japan and OCE).
So we arent allowed to have it?
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: League of Legends 2019 Comic Contest
Bultz (NA)
: Darkin Question's
> [{quoted}](name=Bultz,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=9lsvgAWz,comment-id=,timestamp=2019-06-18T19:13:15.394+0000) > > 1) What happens if I throw them into the void > 2) the four horseman of the darkin vs Nagakabouros > 3) would lux's light affect them at all? > 4) Do they have a healing factor? I assume yes > 5) when will we get a Darkin Apocalypse? Opinion: 2.) Naga. They're not demons or horsemen. They aren't even spirits. They're rogue ascended warriors. 3.) I don't think its a weakness at all. The darkin are not immune to magic, so it can probably damage them though. 4.) In the lore they healed their regular bodies using blood magic, but I think Scathlocke is saying that it isn't instant like you see in anime. Aatrox sees the bodies he takes as a mockery to his original form, so that makes me think he (or the others) wont care for their vessels the same way they once cared for themselves unless they have to.
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Bazerka (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=Caretaker Jack,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TtydEmqd,comment-id=0031,timestamp=2019-06-15T04:13:35.599+0000) > > if yall gonna keep this server lag going on, then I say dump the whole thing... sick of this shit. Fwiw lag is rarely (afaik almost never) caused by the servers / infrastructure. Rather, there are always elements that are out of our control (people using wifi, crappy ISP connections, low bandwidth, viruses hogging bandwidth, etc) that cause those issues. There are only so many elements good 'ol rito can control in this equation :X
> [{quoted}](name=Bazerka,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=TtydEmqd,comment-id=00310000,timestamp=2019-06-17T19:52:16.629+0000) > > Fwiw lag is rarely (afaik almost never) caused by the servers / infrastructure. Rather, there are always elements that are out of our control (people using wifi, crappy ISP connections, low bandwidth, viruses hogging bandwidth, etc) that cause those issues. There are only so many elements good 'ol rito can control in this equation :X But it IS a real issue that they just admitted they haven't been doing too hot at in their latest video. So even if you're not exactly saying it, you can't really dump most of it on the players "assumed to be" bad service. I work and pay my bills, sir. So when I log in I want my shit to work. I don't want so much as a glitch and why is that unreasonable if I put the extra money into my material?
Bazerka (NA)
: TFT - What do y'all think?
if yall gonna keep this server lag going on, then I say dump the whole thing... sick of this shit.
: Please don't nerf Taric or Sona, just disable the support item interaction with each other, like if there are 2 support items in the vicinity of each other, their passives get disabled, so it can't be abused anymore.
You don't need the supp item on soma. Just klepto
: Can you guys bring back the option to opt for more scaling options? I miss being able to choose AD scaling Reds, scaling armor yellows, and scaling mr blues. Currently we just have flat options.
: As a Tahm Kench player I appreciate you still letting me keep auto winning lanes for freelo On behalf of everyone else I have to ask you what's wrong with you. The champ is clearly overpowered. If I can all in a Darius at level 3, chase him into his next minion wave, miss my Q stun and still kill him while being only vaguely in danger I feel like there is an issue.
: @Meddler Sorry, but ... the changes to pyke I do not consider them so good. You are making it useless for a solo line, I know that in competitive it is taken to solitary line, but it is not a reason for hyper nerf to only take it to support, I think you should take another way. A champion must have some wave cleaning some more than others, but I think that what you have done with Pyke is very big. I would like to know if you are going to keep working.
No. Hush. it's perfect. Gut him until he's a real support.
: Can we buff Wards again so we can actually have vision?
It made pro play stale and causes games to be longer than they should be.
: Yo med, ia there any plan for {{champion:35}} ? Actualy his E its almost useless since it hit for less than 50% of one auto. Alse he never got a single compesation buff after infinite runes nerf
Isn't he doing well tho? Esp soloq
Antenora (EUW)
: Sivir Jinx and Lux nerfs?
: How about Kalista? what are your thoughts on her?
Isn't she a success still? The mains seem to like her...
Shriken (OCE)
: Do you remember the champion Quinn? Is there any plans to put power back into her after the gutting she got? Feels like whenever she gets anything nice she's nerfed to the ground and left in the trash.
She's still good. U can still snowball on her and lose if u don't close.
: If you don't peel for your ADC: Don't expect them to survive.
Understandable, but my issue with most adc is something much different... its that lot of them dont do anything. Most supp mains will agree that they dont expect adc to dodge everything. Typically the marksman's lack of presence pushes the supp to either stall a losing lane or to ditch the potato adc and gamble on roams. The latter tends to happen (esp if jungle is a bot.) As a result the adc starts dying and getting emotional. But my thing is, you already had a supp sitting in your lane but youre telling me now, suddenly, you wanna poke and get CC-ed after they leave? Real talk. It'll take you damn near 25 minutes of perfect cs to hit a basic 2 item spike and thats useless if your opponet or an enemy assn is ahead. Then it takes longer. This is why ad has to be proactive ,in lane, regardless of scaling. Many dont understand that scaling picks still need to maintain some sort of presence to get there. Others don't underatand that they dont even have late game on picks like draven or lucian if they arent ahead early. Typically even the shittiest supp will stick with the adc, but a good one will leave if the jungle isnt snowballing lanes properly or ganking bot... If u want them to stay. You gotta win. Sorry. My take is, if ur a farm bot then just keep farming. Why is that so difficult? U dont need support to farm. U can do that by yourself and get more xp... Dont get mad that nobody is saving you if you aren't trying to do anything. If you're a proactive adc. Ignore this.
: Can i just say that inters literally never get addressed.
they can't rly punish someone breaking the meta... And unless they put in print that theyre inting, riot can't tell. Even if they could, it has to be done multiple times before it eats at their honor, and ultimately, their account. (Maybe less mercy is shown in ranked. idk) That's why people on the forums complaining about their bans get no sympathy. You truly have to be the worst of the worst.
: Tahm Kench top
: Qiyana, another disappointment...
I agree with Skyen. Atm, her lore makes sense (I'll give riot that.) Unfortunately, her design is still ugly. She looks like Nikki Minaj auditioned for Atlantis 2, not a royal from a Meso-American inspired empire...
: Just my personal opinion, but compared to the last addition, Yuumi, I think Qiyana is an improvement.
Yuumi, as a character, is infinitely more interesting than qiyana
Bazerka (NA)
: TFT - What do y'all think?
I think yall should stop the lag issues on your current game. yw
: I hate this bug. Aurelion doesn't taunt, and once you do a first blood, ALL of his quotes completely stop happening. Until you respawn, that is.. It also does the same when you cast your Ultimate. He completely shuts up. Makes me sad, really. I've written a complaint about it to Riot, 3 months ago, and they said they were gonna fix it. They never even mentionned anything about Aurelion Sol. Quite disappointing.
see! I knew something was wrong! It bothers me soo much because I only play him to hear him be a prick.. since then I've swapped mids. :(
Rioter Comments
: > [{quoted}](name=Caretaker Jack,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=rmzLWBjN,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-05-15T22:37:02.749+0000) > > To not read a sentence is just lazy... > > Like, come on, did you even read the title correctly? I didn't say anything bad about the events (said opposite actually.) Honestly, I didn't even bad mouth the skins. The past 4+ events are cool but you don't play the champions. That's why I was refering to the events where you could play the champions.
You're coming off as fallacious. Your new conclusion doesn't even make sense nor does it line up with your original response... Yeeeah, I think we're done here.
: Past 4 events: Spring Split 2019. E-sports blergh event. Butcher's Bridge events. April Fools events. Meh. Kayle and Morgana missions. I don't know how long you've been playing but Odyssey, Versus 2018, Star Guardian 2017 and Versus 2017 were some of the best events I've experienced... If we're not talking about back when IP was still a thing, and the Pajama Party event happened. That definitely was some fun, to play with friends and level up quickly whilst earning skins. And ARAMARAMA, which was an EUW only event where a ton of skinlines were on sale and you could earn about- 3 chests from playing ARAM.
To not read a sentence is just lazy... Like, come on, did you even read the title correctly? I didn't say anything bad about the events (said opposite actually.) Honestly, I didn't even bad mouth the skins.
Sir Nope (NA)
: What is supposed to be the differences between divers and assassins?
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AIQ (NA)
: Well being that theirs only 1 correct answer, Shyvana. So When Shyvana gets her 2020 VGU, I was thinking that SG Shyvana should get Chromas, because that would sell like hot cakes.
I picked Shyv too because her lore leaves a lot to be desired. And her gameplay is disappointing. You basically have to go AP in solo q.
Rioter Comments
: I hope it's {{champion:117}} just cause I love her. But it's probably {{champion:37}}
I'm thinking Nami, but Lulu's odds are pretty damn good... Sona's too.
: LET. PEOPLE. ENJOY. THINGS.
I agree, but in what context? Is OP saying not to bash people for liking league? Like, whose arguing that point? To me, this just preaches to the choir.
: Why can't people accept the fact that it is the meta and not matchmaking? The more you complain about matchmaking, the more you distract from the issues plaguing the game. Changing matchmaking will not fix the game. The sooner you accept that, the better it is for everyone. Edit: Also, the meta and matchmaking are not the only factors in determining games. Other factors like afkers, leavers, trolls, etc. also negatively impact the game and exist independent of matchmaking.
: Shyvana Needs A Rework
Riot is aware, shes at the top of the list after Morde... So rejoice
Rioter Comments
: They think a gold chroma can replace a skin... {{champion:432}}
Silly Riot, bard is bard... :(
: The red one is exclusive to the bundle purchase.
> [{quoted}](name=How Do You Meta,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=O9kasmrs,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2019-04-05T03:29:43.651+0000) > > The red one is exclusive to the bundle purchase. dammit.
: "What is YOUR evidence that dread knight is anything else? The skin has no lore and no confirmed universe. The only thing you can do is go off what it looks like and, frankly, that's a lot more genuine than you sitting over there acting like people don't have eyes," - Jack. Jack. Listen. DId you not read my comment at all? Did you not understand anything I just said? God this is why I hate the league boards. LISTEN. I never said dreadknight was anything. I commented MY interpretation of the dreadknight skin to prove to YOU that skins have no LORE. Do you understand now? My POINT is that skins aren't canon and have no lore MEANING they can be up to interpretation. - No where did I say that MY take in the skin WAS canon or that the skin was ANYTHING ELSE. LISTEN. - You are basing skins off of your experiences and personal opinion, BUT you're calling it fact. Stop bsing "It's very simple. You can go look it up and see that the burning tides skin theme falls under the alternative universe label. From there we know his character is centered around his morals and position as an elite soldier... Here's the part where you think. If he's from Bilgewater, in this universe, what kind of morals do you think he has? Is he still an eliter soldier? Hence, his character is still intact," - Did you not read my comment at all? Seriously? You did it again. You're placing lore on skins when there is none. It doesn't matter if he's from bilgewater or has bilgwater aesthetic. - "From there we know his character is centered around his morals and position as an elite soldier... Here's the part where you think. If he's from Bilgewater, in this universe, what kind of morals do you think he has? Is he still an eliter soldier? Hence, his character is still intact," I cannot believe I have to repeat myself jesus christ.... ONCE AGAIN. SKINS ARE NOT BASED ON THE LORE OF THE CHARACTER. What part about that do you not understand? What is not clear to you? You DON'T know whether or not biglewater garen has the same morals or similar morals to garen. "He's still an elite solider" HOW DO YOU KNOW THIS? EVIDENCE? PROOF? Where does it say in league that Admiral garen is still an elite soldier? YOU DON'T KNOW. And you're talking out of your ass at this point. You once again refuse to listen to my comments so I'm forced to break it down some more. - SKINS ARE NOT BASED ON THE CHAMPION LORE. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF HE'S FROM BILGEWATER THERE IS NO EVIDENCE TO DETERMINE A SIMILAR CHARACTER TO THE ORIGINAL. Christ Do you need further explanation? "We can all go on forever on what qualities make a character. I'm going off what the OP said. He points out that Riot themselves consider her age to be relevant and, apparently, they say so in her Q&A... So maybe riot doesn't agree with you," - Well the OP is exaggerating to fit his argument because the Q&A just states her age. Also tell me this. If her age is so damn important than how come it isn't a focus in her lore? How come her augmentations and wondering if she's more machine than human two major focuses in her lore and biography? Even then she was already known to be very old. BUT being old was NOT the focus of her character or of her lore. It's more of a detail about her character that indicates how far the augments have gone. The fact that she is still able to move so eligantly at the age of 80 is due to her AUGMENTS. Please read at least the first paragraph I posted before. It literally states these elements. I'm repeating myself because you clearly didn't read my last comment and I'm not the only one that noticed. - Also no he never said that Riot considered her age relevant: "You even made a very large point about telling us that she was actually 80 years old in the QA about her," Making a very large point (Which is still an exaggeration) does NOT correlate to relevancy. It was a minor relevance in her story like i've said before. Riot likely made it a large point because it means that her augments are far more advanced than one would believe had they not known her age. "Part of me isn't sure if you even read what you cited because I see her age everywhere in the bio. Someone who runs an elite family that operates two cities doesn't sound young at all. In fact, "Principal" anything doesn't sound young to me. The terms used throughout very clearly get the message across, so I'm here like "what are you even reading?"" - Once again you're placing bias as a bases for evidence. You're assuming someone has to be old to run an elite family and operates two cities. Well, first of all, she inherited that responsibility after her brother. It's not like she built the clan from scratch. Not only that, but her brother stevan was in control when he was YOUNGER THAN CAMILLE. Added to that she actually let her grand-niece take control of the family, not her. She did shadow operations to help the family. You know, her grand-niece who ISN'T an old woman? Running an elite family? Read the story please. -"In fact, "Principal" anything doesn't sound young to me," are you serious? You're clearly using your own personal experience as a bases for evidence and it's obvious! Principal has no age value to it. It is a POSITION OF POWER NOT AGE. Jesus Christ it's like talking to a brick wall that's reading it's first book. Did you even read the biography? - "The terms used throughout very clearly get the message across, so I'm here like "what are you even reading?""" The terms? Terms? Do you know what terms mean? Because the way you're using it is incorrect and has no coherent value. Even then no "terms" in the story dictate that she has to be a certain age to run the family or even oversee operations. So what are YOU even reading? Because it's not her story. "I didn't contradict myself at all. You were just so fixed on responding that you never actually bothered to understand what my point was. Hell, why'd you stop with the program example? I defended every fucking Camille skin that exists except the new one... But again, you probably didn't know that until now. Very sad. Maybe you'd make better arguments if you took the time to understand what you were arguing against," - This was actually a mistake on me. I take full responsibility for that mistake because I assumed you were the OP. - But I have to ask once again, how can you have an issue with the new one when the project skin has no age indication? - "New Skin. She looks 20. That's a problem. Her hair should be made gray," How do you have an issue with her age when the program is essentially ageless? If anything she looks like some newly created model. - This also goes back to my MAIN POINT: SKINS AREN'T CANONICAL AND THEREFORE ARE NOT BASED ON THE LORE OF THE CHARACTER. Even the skins with lore don't directly follow the original lore's aesthetic (Facial looks, skin color, HAIR) or their personality directly. - Here let me once again use your own logic and the logic of the OP: I don't like the nurse akali skin because she doesn't have her original outfit or even look anything like her original skin. I don't like Dark Star thresh because he doesn't have his lantern. - Here's the best example of how backwards you guys' logic is: I don't like nidalee's french maid skin because it doesn't fit with her character being a being that belongs to the jungle. Growing up on the deepest parts of the jungle, her maid skin doesn't reflect that at all and in turn that makes it a bad skin. - See what I did? I applied your logic, but in a better scenario because at least her being apart of the jungle and being half woman and half beast is a FOCUS in her character. The french skin doesn't reflect her wild beast like nature at all so according to you and the OP it's not a good skin. Do you see where things can uh get you know? Unreasonable?
* You were the one who used the skin as an example. If you were never saying anything about the skin, then your whole example becomes pointless and we can just scrap it. It was a stupid example anyways. * First off, I didn't "make up" that Admiral Garen falls under the burning tides lore. You can go ahead and look that up for yourself. Second, I'm not saying skins are based on the character's lore. I'm saying that the character remains intact despite the lore... And I actually proved that already. The rest of your complaints can be found in Garen's lore directly and through the stories regarding him. If you wanna be petty, Garen is no longer an "Elite Soldier" he is, instead, an "Admiral." * You used Stevan as an example, but he is actually older than Camille... It actually says he was only passed up because of his condition. At age 25, Camille's parents died and she gave him the position because she couldn't _"bear the anguish that settled over the house."_ (Also, you completely ignore that the grand-niece is just a face. Which is often how people run businesses in reality.) * There are facts, opinions, and gray zones. Her age is def a gray zone. You say her age highlights the strength of the augments, but do you understand that you're making her age relevant in doing so? Meanwhile, the OP has other thoughts on it. Speculation is fine. I think I'm making a fair argument on this considering Piltover is structured after the UK and not some generic high school anime. In reality, you typically have to have some years on you to do those things. Feel free to disagree in the gray zone, but the reverse is actually the greater oddity. * In program, she's lost her human half and therefore doesn't age. It makes sense in the program universe... Arguably 2018 championships isn't an actual universe tho. My idea is that the new skin is a cyborg like the classic and should respect those lines. But could she be just a new model? Yeah. Could one just assume its a wig? Yeah. It can be a lot of things... Please, understand I'm not going on a strike at Riot HQ. I'm just in a random forum posting an opinion. **"Here let me once again ~~use~~ _distort_ your own logic and the logic of the OP: I don't like the nurse akali skin because she doesn't have her original outfit or even look anything like her original skin. I don't like Dark Star thresh because he doesn't have his lantern."** * I would say something if Nurse Akali had pink hair... Because she's not that kind of character. She's rebellious and serious, so it wouldn't make sense to give her bubblegum pink hair. (But they could.) **"See what I did? I applied your logic."** * No, you just created a strawman... I never said all her skins should have gray hair. I defended both Coven and Program. You're just jumping to that assumption because I disagree with this one skin.
Rioter Comments
: You're making assumptions of a character based on no evidence. How do you know dreadknight is exactly the same garen? Evidnece? Source? You literally made that up to fit your own argument. My point was when I said this champions was that the skins aren't canonical and aren't entirely based on the champions fundamentals. For the rest of the skins you are again making assumptions of the skins. How do you know admiral garen has the same core ideas of garen? Hell he even has different hair! Also addressing the hair thing: No her age is not what makes camille. Here let me send you the very first paragraph of her biography. The one that explains her whole character: "Weaponized to execute outside the boundaries of the law, Camille is an elegant and elite operative who ensures the Piltover machine and its Zaunite underbelly runs smoothly. Camille's true strength is her adaptability and attention to detail, viewing sloppy technique as an embarrassment that must be put to order. Raised among manners and money, she is the Principal Intelligencer of Clan Ferros, tasked with cutting down her family's darker problems with surgical precision. With a mind as sharp as the blades she bears, Camille's pursuit of superiority through hextech body augmentation has left many to wonder if she is more machine than woman," Now where in that paragraph does it state her age? Where in the paragraph is her age a relevancy in her bio? It's because it's not relevant. It was a result of her augmentations. If anything her augments should be more of a focus than her age and Riot agrees with me as well as everyone else. - Side note: "Program is also fine. She is full machine. No big deal," You not only contradict your OP since you didn't like this skin either, but this skin doesn't show her age at all and you seem fine with it. So back to my main point: Skins aren't lore based and can therefore do whatever they want with the design of the champion as long as it retains the core identity (at least visual) of the champion. Camille's identity is her elegant and elite personality but also her augmentations, which it once again states in the official lore. Her new skin still reflects those augments. Her age is a purely aesthetic choice.
What is _YOUR_ evidence that dread knight is anything else? The skin has no lore and no confirmed universe. The only thing you can do is go off what it looks like and, frankly, that's a lot more genuine than you sitting over there acting like people don't have eyes. It's very simple. You can go look it up and see that the burning tides skin theme falls under the alternative universe label. From there we know his character is centered around his morals and position as an elite soldier... Here's the part where you think. If he's from Bilgewater, in this universe, what kind of morals do you think he has? Is he still an eliter soldier? Hence, his character is still intact. We can all go on forever on what qualities make a character. I'm going off what the OP said. He points out that Riot themselves consider her age to be relevant and, apparently, they say so in her Q&A... So maybe riot doesn't agree with you. Part of me isn't sure if you even read what you cited because I see her age everywhere in the bio. Someone who runs an elite family that operates two cities doesn't sound young at all. In fact, "Principal" anything doesn't sound young to me. The terms used throughout very clearly get the message across, so I'm here like_ "what are you even reading?"_ I didn't contradict myself at all. You were just so fixed on responding that you never actually bothered to understand what my point was. Hell, why'd you stop with the program example? I defended every fucking Camille skin that exists except the new one... But again, you probably didn't know that until now. Very sad. Maybe you'd make better arguments if you took the time to understand what you were arguing against.
: you do realize that the new skin is a skin to honor the lcs player for winning worlds. they pretty much throw the rule book out the window because the skin is not meant to represent the champ anymore but the player because the players who won choose the champ. they literally talk with the players about the color scheme and aesthetics that will be chosen. the only thing they cant do is make changes that would harm gameplay.
I hear what your saying and I think you're right. That IS the way it goes... But at the same time saying that does nothing to disprove the point. The character design doesnt make sense. Im not saying it has to... Im just saying it doesn't.
Stupafly (NA)
: Why does her hair need to be gray though. Are you saying she looks like she is 80 in her base skin because she has gray hair. Does ekko look old because he has white hair?
Why? Well, the first guy is arguing that Camille's age is a big part of her character and that the new skin neglects that. He suggests gray hair because thats the most sensible way to convey age for this design. The rest of your msg cancels itself out. If you dont know why Camille has that body (with gray hair) in her classic, then you shouldnt be arguing about her because you dont know anything on the subject. Now, if you do know, then you're just being needlessly capcious and you already have your answer to why a black kid with white hair is a worse comparison than Garen.
: Skins don't follow the champion lore. Need an example? Look at garen skins. There is a lot of them that show different personalities and ages. - Dreadknight garen looks like more of an evil or ruthless garen than his original - Admiral garen is a much older garen - God king garen is a garen that will bring peace through absolute order and worship. Meaning if you don't follow his rules you face harsh consequences. My point is skins are never going to match lore or even elements of a champion aside from key visuals of a champion (For example Camilles key visual for her champion I'd say is her knife legs and hook shot knees not her age).
But none of those examples make your point.. Garen is characterized by his morals and position as an elite soldier. This is a lot different from the point made about Camille whose age is a big part of who she is. * Dreadknight does not kill this concept of Garen at all. He is still Garen, just darker. * Admiral is just Garen if he had been brought up in Bilgewater instead of Demacia... It's a unique re-imagining, but again. It's still Garen because the qualities of his character remain intact. * Literally nothing about God King goes against Garen at all. That is likely what he would be like if he ascended to Godlike Power. He's already hardcore on Justice and resides in Demacia. **For Camille:** * Elderwood is fine. She doesn't need grey hair there because she's already embodying something ancient. * Program is also fine. She is full machine. No big deal. * New Skin. She looks 20. That's a problem. Her hair should be made gray.
: The Good, The Bad, and the League: 3/21 - 3/27
It's always the good and the bad.... What about the Bard???
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