CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=000600000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T19:51:19.853+0000) > > normally this would make her neutral. But she comes from a culture where dishonor is death. So it depends on your standards for good and evil. If you come from a culture where it is considered good and holy to eat babies then a cannibal is not necessarily evil. > then again I've never actually heard of her doing anything purely good xD > > still not necessarily evil. I believe she is meant to be an anti-hero though. A goodguy for all the wrong reasons. She fights evil because she loves it when they scream or some shit like that lol. But I guess that depends on what the new lore is or if they actually released it yet Regardless of culture, if you want to kill someone over something as arbitrary as "they dishonored me" that's kinda evil, so she's neutral. MF tried to kill gangplank who is evil but she did it for vengeance not to save bilgewater, and as a bounty hunter she captures bounties for money not for any moral reasons, so she's neutral Being a shadow assassin murderer is evil.
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=0006000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T19:59:37.134+0000) > > Regardless of culture, if you want to kill someone over something as arbitrary as "they dishonored me" that's kinda evil, so she's neutral. Nothing arbitrary about killings someone who dishonors you in a culture where you can be executed for being dishonorable. > MF tried to kill gangplank who is evil but she did it for vengeance not to save bilgewater, and as a bounty hunter she captures bounties for money not for any moral reasons, so she's neutral kay > Being a shadow assassin murderer is evil. das raciss
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=000100020000,timestamp=2017-09-19T06:06:59.335+0000) > > universal genocide isn't necessarily evil. Depends on what youre genociding and why. Especially when the universe is filled with such craziness Sure if the universe consists of nocturnes and shacos sure. But even then if they are stuck on their isolated worlds they should be left to be. Possibly monitored incase they try spreading then purged but until then it should be dealt with in the star trek manner of not interfering.
> [{quoted}](name=DariusDemiurge,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=0001000200000000,timestamp=2017-09-19T06:22:14.574+0000) > > Sure if the universe consists of nocturnes and shacos sure. But even then if they are stuck on their isolated worlds they should be left to be. Possibly monitored incase they try spreading then purged but until then it should be dealt with in the star trek manner of not interfering. in a crusade against evil one must destroy the source of evil even if it is the universe itself. this could also be lawful good.
CLG ear (NA)
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=0006,timestamp=2017-09-19T06:04:46.485+0000) > > Akali should probably be neutral > > Fiora is probably good according to her own culture > > Kayle praises the sun, calling her neutral is weird. > > MF.. is debatable. > > morgana rejects goodness, whether or not her actions are neutral is another thing but she herself rejects the path of good > > eve is supposed to be an anti-hero of some sort. She might be neutral > > Ahri is good because she's hawt, but then she's also a very naughty girl. She should be the star of all 3 categories, no bias whatsoever #AhriFancultBanner Fiora while not a terrorist is a very stuck up proud duelist who will kill you just because she felt you dishonored her, which is some mental illness and not good. MF is a bounty hunter who wanted vengeance, so she's like a mercenary neither good nor evil Eve is a shadow assassin murderer clearly evil
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=00060000,timestamp=2017-09-19T06:08:24.642+0000) > > Fiora while not a terrorist is a very stuck up proud duelist who will kill you just because she felt you dishonored her, which is some mental illness and not good. normally this would make her neutral. But she comes from a culture where dishonor is death. So it depends on your standards for good and evil. If you come from a culture where it is considered good and holy to eat babies then a cannibal is not necessarily evil. > MF is a bounty hunter who wanted vengeance, so she's like a mercenary neither good nor evil then again I've never actually heard of her doing anything purely good xD > Eve is a shadow assassin murderer clearly evil still not necessarily evil. I believe she is meant to be an anti-hero though. A goodguy for all the wrong reasons. She fights evil because she loves it when they scream or some shit like that lol. But I guess that depends on what the new lore is or if they actually released it yet
: > [{quoted}](name=Chibi Bronzlife,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-19T05:49:39.559+0000) > > Ummmm, Camille is a cop... Ahri is actually more good (iirc she only takes the life essence of evil men?) Morg is evil, ayle is good. Shyv is actually good too, she just wants to avenge her father. Morgana ain't evil. She is a light shade of grey. Kayle was at the point of readying a universal genocide, that is pretty dark grey if not evil depending on how stupidly high her standards were for sparing people. SMH...
> [{quoted}](name=DariusDemiurge,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=00010002,timestamp=2017-09-19T06:00:58.180+0000) > > Morgana ain't evil. She is a light shade of grey. Kayle was at the point of readying a universal genocide, that is pretty dark grey if not evil depending on how stupidly high her standards were for sparing people. > > SMH... universal genocide isn't necessarily evil. Depends on what youre genociding and why. Especially when the universe is filled with such craziness
: I don't think Rek'Sai is evil tbh.
> [{quoted}](name=Éve,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-09-19T05:58:47.689+0000) > > I don't think Rek'Sai is evil tbh. I think rek'sai is more hungry than evil, just like all voidlings aside from malzahar
CLG ear (NA)
: Actual list of Good vs Evil league girls
> [{quoted}](name=CLG ear,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=GH4vKwG6,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-19T05:42:54.581+0000) > > Good > > {{champion:84}} {{champion:34}} {{champion:22}} {{champion:51}} {{champion:131}} {{champion:39}} {{champion:40}} {{champion:43}} {{champion:89}} {{champion:117}} {{champion:99}} {{champion:267}} {{champion:76}} {{champion:78}} {{champion:133}} {{champion:37}} {{champion:16}} {{champion:163}} {{champion:18}} {{champion:254}} > > Neutral > > {{champion:103}} {{champion:1}} {{champion:114}} {{champion:420}} {{champion:429}} {{champion:10}} {{champion:203}} {{champion:21}} {{champion:25}} {{champion:61}} {{champion:92}} {{champion:113}} {{champion:102}} {{champion:15}} {{champion:67}} {{champion:498}} {{champion:143}} > > Evil > > {{champion:164}} {{champion:69}} {{champion:60}} {{champion:28}} {{champion:222}} {{champion:55}} {{champion:7}} {{champion:127}} {{champion:421}} {{champion:134}} Akali should probably be neutral Fiora is probably good according to her own culture Kayle praises the sun, calling her neutral is weird. MF.. is debatable. morgana rejects goodness, whether or not her actions are neutral is another thing but she herself rejects the path of good eve is supposed to be an anti-hero of some sort. She might be neutral Ahri is good because she's hawt, but then she's also a very naughty girl. She should be the star of all 3 categories, no bias whatsoever #AhriFancultBanner
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r1WHhbu0,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-09-14T14:45:15.127+0000) > > was just curious. Yorick fans are always crying and yet now there's no hype. This is why Yorick gets nothing Its not getting hype Because the yorick fan's aren't exactly impressed.
> [{quoted}](name=ZenithEevee,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r1WHhbu0,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2017-09-14T15:59:42.388+0000) > > Its not getting hype > Because the yorick fan's aren't exactly impressed. Lol, the yorick fans better get with the program then. Lol players seem to have gotten into the habit of thinking that if they just keep whining about what they don't like that everything will turn out perfect in the end. However this rarely proves to be the case, especially when the opposite of "not that" is any number of things.
: You're a little late to the party
> [{quoted}](name=TheRiddum,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r1WHhbu0,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2017-09-14T12:41:45.508+0000) > > You're a little late to the party was just curious. Yorick fans are always crying and yet now there's no hype. This is why Yorick gets nothing
Creo (NA)
: They need to add minecraft Yorick with the diamond shovel
> [{quoted}](name=Creo,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=r1WHhbu0,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-09-14T13:51:16.737+0000) > > They need to add minecraft Yorick with the diamond shovel :P diamond yorick
Rioter Comments
Rioter Comments
: Star Guardian theme
> [{quoted}](name=LSsica,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=rEOXAfAE,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-10T03:18:57.911+0000) > > -Taric (IT MATCHES!) Taric actually might end up being like first star or something if they take inspiration from power rangers. His lore and everything make him a bit better suited for a fancier role, however his kit is not one you'd really want as a star guardian and all star guardians are more youthful champs. > -Aurelion Sol (Don't be racist, Star Guardians don't all need to be humanoids!) Another first star candidate. But again, his character type and kit don't fit the scene, he'd be better off as a villain > -Diana (Sailor Moon is right here fam) For Diana to be a sailor moon reference would be an insult to Diana's character. Please stop suggesting this. > -Darius (Break the stereotype!) Not a good idea, star guardians are magical, there's nothing magical about him. > -Urgot (Just search up Star Guardian Urgot...) o.m.g. it talks! sparkles are for star guardians, keep drinking your ovaltine. > I mean, these may seem like jokes, but an occasional joke skin would be funny, and probably pretty popular. Not today, star guardian is serious fucking business. This could be a whole franchise, this is big.
: *Sigh The 80's had such better music.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLMuv5dc-rQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-HUgzYPm9g
Arduno (NA)
: I'm Veigar mehehehehehehehehe
> [{quoted}](name=Arduno,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xdq5eN0d,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-09-08T21:28:16.541+0000) > > I'm Veigar > mehehehehehehehehe Ahri pics or it didn't happen :3
: Noticing a dramatic rise in RWBY-related content and avatars...
later in the year around October = rwby new releases season every year they thought this series was gonna die... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iP0gJpZUF1Y after the creator died and it all fell down https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Brn0JaJkOlo But this little company rose back up... like shadows https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmDYu5KI5XI and shortly after the fans watching the side stories and such began to make theories and give this series new life... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MWA6YlVMwqQ So roosterteeth is now waking up and ready to recover, their armed and ready! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cvnmpsWTsBo ^^ probably went to far but this one is my new favorite btw
: i got mf and poppy on the original test. But deep down I know im star guardian urgot.
> [{quoted}](name=fallenreaper88,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=xdq5eN0d,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2017-09-08T13:16:19.887+0000) > > ...star guardian urgot. Nope, sparkles are for star guardians...
: The Star Guardian voice announcements are pretty sexist
to be fair, sailor moon has always sounded like the Japanese equivalent of a silly person until literally the moment when she's about to win the fight. Didn't most of her friends call her bunny or meatball? Seriously, sailor moon is not really the best feminist icon and nothing that is inspired by anything from japan is going to be a great rolemodel for girls in EVERY way by American standards.
: rioter of soical department please help me with (ingamechat) or any body please
Ingame chat helps you find friends. I deal with ingame chat by looking at the positive. For every one dick there's usually like 9 people who aren't dicks. Try friending the other ones until you're always playing with people you like or like better than dicks
Proxy345 (NA)
: Fate/Stay Night is coming soon!!!!!
Looks fake lol. The shadowverse cards don't even have fate character images
Rioter Comments
: I wonder how much work it actually is being on the balance team
> [{quoted}](name=Akali is SO HOT,realm=NA,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=XiP4nw2j,comment-id=,timestamp=2017-09-02T05:03:12.920+0000) > > Seems like an average day at work would be to sit down for a few minutes with the other members of the team and then telling a programmer to change the values of a champion's abilities around a little bit and then go home. Sometimes it might take longer if the changes are more than just numbers. Doesn't seem like it would be even close to something that would require hours and hours of work a day. > > idk. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIjJ9Bce3tI watch this video until you don't want to watch anymore Now I'm going to tell you.. that there is a mistake in this video now go here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cake please read this now return to the video and find the mistake now go to the comments and find ALL complaints now write up a report on the mistake and what should actually be then find a video or make a video of this done correctly This is just how you get started, you will have to spend months doing this. That's what game balancing is like
Dasdi96 (NA)
: I dodged janna's tornado and waited out her ult.
I went through her tornado and through the healing and flames and killed her ADC before before they got any chance to exploit my nonexistent hesitation. Chesthair is the secret.
Rioter Comments
: Because I like playing in a serious environment even tho its toxic as well but normal? I don't need to play in a mode where people are just mostly guna try new things and troll ------------- And I like doing tournament, so having a certain Ranked is a must to do that crap
http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/925/494/218.png_large serious environment huh? What ranks do you consider to be serious environments then I guess lol. Surely its not all of them.
: is that why you don't rank at all LOL
No, I just don't have any reason to play ranked. Why do you play ranked? Assuming you do.
: DW about that, I've done it before The only person benefit from playing with someone with much higher MMR is the one with lower MMR --------- My MMR drop by 100 after 2 winning game with a Bronze friend and I also only gain 10LP per win and 2 won give me 20LP Yeah playing with lower MMR people give you less LP And that my friend is why people smurf
Id prefer not to smurf but the lower level players just insist on throwing their faces at pvp for some reason no matter how bad they do and how bad they know they did. Its like watching addicts try out some of the harder stuff.
: you cant fight kat, she just denies anything you do
I fought cat today. It wasn't actually that hard until my jungler started failing all over the place and then I started to come back but my team started failing all over the place she was never really an issue outside the fact they had a fizz and katarina on the same team and my team was afraid to do anything about it but I was playing ahri so I didn't really care all that much.
LQuiX (EUNE)
: Yasuo
when will you stop letting him be a pain in the butt?
: Where do you hear people saying Ezreal is weak?
ezreal does little damage, that doesn't mean he's weak some people misinterpret this
: i just finished a ranked match where i out damaged a late game vayne and everyone else in the game
You know its because you're silver but you still don't want to understand
: no matter who lee lands a Q on, somebody dies
he landed a q on me earlier today and I destroyed his team... I don't think that's how it works now that I think about it
: Yeah like if you play with Cerealboxofshit right now You know your MMR is fuck
If you play with new players and show them how to play your MMR will probably go down no matter how hard you try. Though you may learn a thing or two for later.
: can someone explain to me how MMR works in its entirety? and also, ranked suggestions for riot.
all you need to know is that it is a bad sign if you are on a winning streak and an opportunity if you are on a losing streak. Also the types of people you play with will reflect your MMR as it currently is whether you belong there or not
: from at least 50 people in the past two weeks
sounds sketchy as hell
: >glass cannon >something to counter armor ???
Yes, sometimes you need a combination of stats. For example if the enemy team has a {{champion:11}} and a turret which now considers armor penetration
: URF
where did you hear this?
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=6L2o1mjt,comment-id=0002000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-01-09T22:51:22.349+0000) > > {{item:3035}} doesn't build into anything that screws over glass cannons. You mean damage? {{item:1038}}
for the same price you could get damage. or you could get damage Plus psuedoboots with a multiplicative damage bonus that is more reliable than anything less than 100% crits and scales multiplicatively with both crits and damage and attack speed etcetc. {{item:3134}} It also allows you to go base 200-950g earlier if need be and gets you back to lane faster. It also scales better into lategame than flat damage assuming your opponents aren't getting moderate amounts of armor.
Dasdi96 (NA)
: Does anyone else feel like tanks SUCK late game?
Actual tanks are supposed to not be strong lategame so the game can actually end poppy is not an actual tank
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qGFNe1Xn,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-01-09T02:25:59.616+0000) > > shields should be strong > > What needs a nerf is healing, not because healing is strong, it needs to be nerfed to make way for shields as a far superior alternative regardless of healing balanace. Healing is inherently toxic. It counteracts meaningful choice in a lot of cases. Shields can do the same but are much less bullshit in most cases as long as healing isn't being combined with it. I can counter healing with grievous wounds. Literally everyone has access to it: {{summoner:14}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3123}} I can't do anything to reduce the effectiveness of shields. Healing isn't BS at all. Even the biggest drain tank is easily killable with grievous wounds. Shields however can be insanely OP.
{{champion:67}} chunked by assassin after a while she gains 500 shield / hp She can go in again You could potentially ignore 500 shield and zone her out or you can just shred it without worrying about her getting even more back before you can do anything. There is clarity in how tanky/squishy she will be at any given moment You cannot ignore hp. Hp regen can't really have a cap aside from 100% max hp placed unless you want to get technical and tacky as hell. She will very soon be completely healed, what the assassin did no longer matters. gg meaningful decisions! Enjoy getting shredded as soon as she heals in a few seconds!
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qGFNe1Xn,comment-id=000200010000,timestamp=2017-01-09T02:25:59.616+0000) > > shields should be strong > > What needs a nerf is healing, not because healing is strong, it needs to be nerfed to make way for shields as a far superior alternative regardless of healing balanace. Healing is inherently toxic. It counteracts meaningful choice in a lot of cases. Shields can do the same but are much less bullshit in most cases as long as healing isn't being combined with it. I can counter healing with grievous wounds. Literally everyone has access to it: {{summoner:14}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3123}} I can't do anything to reduce the effectiveness of shields. Healing isn't BS at all. Even the biggest drain tank is easily killable with grievous wounds. Shields however can be insanely OP.
> [{quoted}](name=ValyrianBlade,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=qGFNe1Xn,comment-id=0002000100000000,timestamp=2017-01-10T03:30:00.277+0000) > > I can counter healing with grievous wounds. Literally everyone has access to it: {{summoner:14}} {{item:3165}} {{item:3123}} > > I can't do anything to reduce the effectiveness of shields. > > Healing isn't BS at all. Even the biggest drain tank is easily killable with grievous wounds. Shields however can be insanely OP. Forcing people to buy specific items that aren't universally useful and viable to counter healing is not healthy design. Warping the meta to the point that people absolutely must get these things is again unhealthy design. Not everyone has access to ignite once the game starts. Am I forced to take one of the other two items if someone decides to sustain? Because they are often unappealing choices especially {{item:3123}} Forcing people to build into counters is also bad design, counterbuilding is not counterplay. Counterbuilding should be an option. That there are so few paths to take against healing and all of them are kindof conditional and involve some risk, a lot more than needed to heal, suggests that perhaps healing must not be too strong in this game or its just strong as shit and nothing will be done about it. But the point is that either way its probably just a bad design. Damage can go around a shield. You don't need an extra stat to prevent a shield You don't have to go out of your way to get a specific debuff to stop a shield though you could. Healing can be just as insanely op as shields can but shields are more versatile after the thing in question has already occurred For a game this fast paced, and designed to be fast paced, a shield is more appropriate than a game suffocating heal. Which is why this game was slowing to a crawl when healing was out of control but is snowballing out of control instead when shields are which is more appropriate for a faster paced brand. And yes, you can do something to reduce the effectiveness of shields, armor and MR penetration both do this. You could say the same for heals but heals don't tend to be small temporary things, they are instead things that grow into massive undoings of any otherwise meaningful acts and decisions made by opponents
: You guys need to adapt to the meta
Just wanted to add that you cant really break the meta without the meta. People need to stop trying to break the meta without even understanding how it works to begin with.
: I can tell just by this conversation, not only are you not good at league, but you arn't very bright either.
no, what we can tell is that this person is willing to type all day but can do nothing but dance around an issue. Which makes me wonder why. You don't have to be all that great at league, this should be simple math. And now here you are insulting my intelligence yet refuse to do what a bright person would actually do and just give me the fucking information I mentioned So what's your fucking problem, you act like you got something to hide. You act like you and he and full of shit and trying to cover for something. What's the problem? I'm smart, in fact I'm so smart I don't have to take your very roundabout shit. Its time to either present a real argument justifying the belittling of anyone who prefers rushing penetration or just accepting that this argument is baseless shit.
: > this statement he made doesn't suggest that anything else is better, only that rushing lethality is useless. The statement suggests that practically everything else is more useFUL
and yet refuses to actually say this outright which suggests that it should be questioned
: I'm not saying get those 3, I'm saying they're the core items. Casters prefer {{item:3508}} because of the CDR and mana return. Auto attack heavy adcs would want {{item:3031}} for the crit damage. And trade-heavy (or bruisers) would want {{item:3072}} for lifesteal. Lethality on an adc is already trivial because {{item:3035}} exists.
{{item:3035}} doesn't penetrate base armor and doesn't build into anything that screws over glass cannons.
: {{item:1038}} -> {{item:3031}} {{item:3508}} {{item:3072}} Main AD items, no lethality
:/ but youre getting AD anyways. It looks more like you're suggesting the not-AD that all these AD items give over lethality. Crit Crit and CDR lifesteal
: I haven't played Jax in awhile but i can't believe fervor isn't the go-to keystone on him anymore
that's because CoC hasn't gotten that silly... yet
: If poppy can build full tank and still chunk me for almost all of my health
get defense and most champs that can chunk you will just be tanky and useless
: kind of the point? basically anything that has AD is probably better LOOOOL
isn't lethality always on AD items?
: do u play the same game? do u not know what other items are in the game? why does he have to explain any further than he already has. if something isn't obvious to u after the information he had given you, maybe do something research instead of assuming the OP is a prick for not walking u through all the items ADCs build
the information he gave? > That be real great. I don't know how people still haven't learned that rushing lethality is useless. this statement he made doesn't suggest that anything else is better, only that rushing lethality is useless. And yes if you take a snarky tone I'm going to assume you're an asshole. Deal with it or avoid being snarky. Like what I did there? I added an extra sentence to let you know how it is instead of just how it isnt
: > [{quoted}](name=CerealBoxOfDoom,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=BP7t6xzc,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-01-09T20:34:04.776+0000) > > whats wrong with it? Seems like he thinks it's a little much.
is 60% much? I mean at level 2 you shouldn't have much hp anyways and then its not like she does it from range or with sustained abilities or autoattacks.. or does she?
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