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"Never said they have no personality" >outside of them being LGBT characters... what are their personalities? >Neeko is quirky and thats about it. Oh and the whole Nidalee thing which is... >Varus isn't even actually the gay dudes but a confirmed Darkin. (Vaarus* lel) cmon my guy at least try
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DreamerP (NA)
: Prestige Arcade Caitlyn
Who cares about anatomy when you can EXPAND BOOB? /s
: I much preferred the Institute of War.
Getting rid of the IoW actually allowed champs like the demons, Jhin, and the Void creatures to actually matter. Back in Ye Olde Days they were/would be basically all just locked up SCP style and then let out under control of a Summoner, whereas now they actually have their own agency. And then there's champs like Bard and Kindred who would have to have very contrived reasons for joining in the first place. Making the game non-canon also means there's no plotholes about why, say, Lucian and Thresh would ever work together. There's nothing I could say about relative power levels that 4 Step and N1C haven't already.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=Cetri,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mmekLwkx,comment-id=0000000000000001,timestamp=2019-06-18T16:08:53.490+0000) > > You also don't HAVE to make a bunch of comments about how stuff you never read is bad. And you don't need to complain about it. This is a forum-like internet entity, right?
I see more point in that than in going on completely unrelated threads to complain about something I've never read where the proposed "fix" would be the exact thing that's being complained about.
GreenKnight (EUNE)
: > [{quoted}](name=RyzeTheSmurfMage,realm=EUNE,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=mmekLwkx,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-18T13:08:48.715+0000) > > Do you not have anything positive to say about the lore? Like at all? Hmm. I don't HAVE to read it?
You also don't HAVE to make a bunch of comments about how stuff you never read is bad.
: ***
Oh boohoo, won't someone think about the poor suicide-baiters!
: Hello Riot! What are your current thoughts about pairing characters?
{{champion:51}} {{champion:254}} {{champion:45}} {{champion:117}}
: > [{quoted}](name=Cetri,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q1uubed1,comment-id=001f000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-08T18:26:06.958+0000) > > Alright? No one's asking for representation that would make absolutely literally zero sense. Please, joke with someone who wants it
: > [{quoted}](name=XIII Vanitas,realm=EUW,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q1uubed1,comment-id=001f0001,timestamp=2019-06-08T14:23:45.258+0000) > > It's not even about representation, it's about breaking the mold. If your character designs look too similar to one another, they quickly get boring and uninteresting. Breaking the mold? Another subjective thing that shouldn't be held above the quality of the game.
TIL that not having homogeneous character designs could somehow have a negative impact on game quality
: > [{quoted}](name=Cetri,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=q1uubed1,comment-id=001f0000,timestamp=2019-06-08T00:34:58.240+0000) > > I don't see how representation would be out of place. Representation would be out of place if said representation made absolutely litterally zero sense.
Alright? No one's asking for representation that would make absolutely literally zero sense.
: Literally name one reason why it would benefit the game. if it has to deal with making players feel more welcome bring data. the ONLY group statistically proven to actually engage MORE with media when represented is Women and we still don't have an answer why. Look it up.
If it really boggles you that much as to why, then I'm not sure I could give you a satisfactory answer.
Falrein (EUW)
: New lore is out - Mordekaiser, Qiyana, and a new region, Ixtal
So the Ruination happened before even the Rune Wars, damn. That makes Yorick even older than Ryze. Malphite finally has a place! I was sure he'd be a Targon champ. Didn't Azir also have nine older siblings? *checks* okay, a number is never given, but an interesting parallel nonetheless. Morde remains metal and terrifying.
: No..just no..I personally don't care for representation where it shouldn't be. Not that representation is bad, but that it has a place, and existing outside that place for the sake of existing is wack. That is how I feel about representation. Now let me clarify, there is a collosal difference between representation and pandering. If Riot right now sees this post and goes and makes this champion just to please whoever we're talking about, that's pandering. Pandering just shouldn't exist, I don't think I need to explain more.
I don't see how representation would be out of place.
: Its all so tiresome having to hear people complain that theres no unattractive female champions in the game, as if we dont have bigger problems on our hands such as insane balance problems. Given the current year its no surprise people would get triggered over it though.
It's almost as though people can complain about more than one issue, and that balance and champ design are two different departments.
: Razed, not raised.
She's opposing the faction clear-cutting the forest, and apparently in other languages she uses a word that means "grown," so probably not.
: > [{quoted}](name=The Djinn,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Woij1lcE,comment-id=000c0000,timestamp=2019-06-06T20:34:04.235+0000) > > Totally fine. The current design might work perfectly for you, in which case that's awesome! I'm not super concerned about the hair color myself -- the stylistic choice of the hairstyle and the crown element are what I have more reservations about. I want to upvote this comment I really do. but sadly I'm not authorized
That happens sometimes. No idea why. Usually refreshing the page or just waiting a bit will fix it.
: > [{quoted}](name=Trasiniem,realm=EUW,application-id=yrc23zHg,discussion-id=jEdHjkM8,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2019-06-06T17:28:36.688+0000) > > Do. You. Guys. Realise. The. Possibilities??? > At the end of Yuumi's champ trailer, she ends up in a jungle, and Qiyana's very first line is, that "I have raised jungles", and this could very well be connected to Yuumi's lore, as they're so close together. Maybe Qiyana will help her and Book find Master, maybe she's the one who's the reason that master went off to that super dangerous mission, maybe she's the EVIL lady in the story, or maybe she'll be a big part in finding and/or saving Master. > OMG Riot, I can't believe you guys. Your champions feel all so unique, at least in lore, and they're so well written too. I love this so much Not to be a grammar nazi, but I'm pretty sure that "raised" in this case is actually "razed", which means to practically flatten to the ground. If she has "razed jungles" and reshaped land or whatever the hell she says, she could be a new geometry/map manipulating champion. Bard has tunnels.. k cool, and Ornn can smash man-made barriers. Champions like Talon easily traverse the terrain. Even though Riot said that a champion to have match-long map manipulating abilities would be too cost intensive (resources, fracturing, particles, sprites, re-texturing, etc) we may have someone who can .. like... blink all the grass out of existence for a few seconds, maybe something like removing all the fog of war, maybe gets special stats in river, but diff stats in bushes, diff stats in lanes, diff buffs in jungle... etc. who knows.
Considering that she seems in opposition to the faction that's clear-cutting the jungle, I kinda doubt it's "razed."
: That may be true, though with the roadmap teaser, they were all shaded. Another issue I have is that her weapon appears to be sharpened on the _inside_ of the hoop as well, and she's not wearing any kind of protection or armor that would keep her from slicing her body to shreds if she's going to be using this weapon like a hula hoop.
I'm not sure I really see that, it looks like a flat side to me.
: > [{quoted}](name=Cetri,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=Woij1lcE,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2019-06-06T19:37:50.171+0000) > > It looks like all of the people in her roadmap teaser have that hair color. Not to make excuses, though, but at least it seems there's an aesthetic going on. And that's fine. The color doesn't bother me so much as the loss of a chance to use her head -- the most expressive part of the champion -- to sell this new culture.
: I also felt like her hair really missed the mark. It's not just the style to me either, it's the platinum silver color. Qiyana isn't selling me "jungle queen of a secret society of shamans." She's selling me "Lady Gaga in the Jungle."
It looks like all of the people in her roadmap teaser have that hair color. Not to make excuses, though, but at least it seems there's an aesthetic going on.
beany (NA)
: Jhin's is animated, so its just that they are prioritizing animating cosmetic content (legendary skins or big skinline releases) over other kinds of content if there's a stacked release. Remains to be seen if Qiyana has one since i doubt there's another legendary skin being released next patch.
It's pretty sad if skins get them over champs, though.
Raviar (NA)
: ***
I'm sure you know more than the entire psychological community.
Mr H0b0 (NA)
: Trails are cool and all but the reason is dumb.
Is "dumb" like "sick" where it means "good" when it used to mean"bad"? I'm not up on all the lingo today but that's the only way I see this comment making sense.
Ohh (NA)
: So then where is my straight pride month and icon
Once straight people have endured centuries of systemic discrimination, we'll talk, k?
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Huh. I didn't realize my nonbinary and bisexual friends were all in my head. Or that all the science on the subject is wrong. The More You Know!
: Can't we keep political issues out of our video games? I don't care what someone else is. They are free to be who they want. But don't shove it in our faces. {{sticker:sg-ahri-3}}
Most art is political to some degree.
mvmlego (NA)
: IKR. One doesn't have to be a homophobe (or even be straight) to realize that it's absurd to take pride in who you're sexually attracted to.
Pride isn't just about that. Pride exists to show strength in the face of adversity, and to keep us from being swept under the rug.
: ***
You know what? You're right. It _is_ gross. We deserve to have the rainbow trail all year 'round.
: > [{quoted}](name=Riot LegendLarry,realm=NA,application-id=6kFXY1kR,discussion-id=0h3jqUk7,comment-id=00050000,timestamp=2019-06-04T21:26:48.636+0000) > > This is a good question! > > Short answer is that Mordekaiser is not a Shadow Isles champion anymore. For updates the champions bios get updated when they go to PBE but their Universe page is updated after they get fully released, which is why you still see Morde listed with Shadow Isles champs. > > As to the color question you're pretty much on the money, we just need to take a step further and think more holistically instead of region specific. Morde is a "vengeful spirit" bound to armor and many of the Shadow Isles are also "vengeful spirits" so they are very similar... just in different places in Runeterra. > > Which would beg the question is there potentially some unknown connection between what Mordekaiser is attempting and the effects of the Ruination? lol That might muddy the waters more than help but at least I hope that answers your question >. < my brain is a wondrous place and I recognize that sometimes what I say makes sense to me but no one else. So... Basically you are hereby canonizing *lime green* as the official *vengeful spirit* color in runeterra. Be careful, there's no going back from that. So it is safe to assume that a benevolent spirit may appear of a different color... Like *rose pink*. Wonderful. I can't wait to die to figure out my color PS: I would have personally made the big step and definitely separate Moredekaiser from the "Shadow Isles green". A "Noxian red" would have been fitting in my opinion. Anyway, if you have envisioned some cosmic meaning for the lime green color, that's completely justified
They kinda associated green with necromancy in general even before this, as Pyke has a similar palette.
: It's great that Riot is showing diversity through this event. In the light of fairness though, where is the icon/even for those who are proud to be straight? Straight pride and gay pride should be able to exist hand in hand w/o one or the other feeling discriminated against. We should all get something special. Would be cool if it could coordinate somehow ;)
The reason gay pride is a thing is to show pride and solidarity in something that we've been discriminated for being for centuries. To this day people are disowned by family, denied jobs, and judged by their cover for being LGBT+, and that's still on the lighter end of the scale. You can't really say straight people have a comparable experience.
: Yea thats true. They could make so that Volibear is what everyone calls him even though his true name is Voli or they could just change the spelling to Voliber. Idk just something so it isnt “his name is bear because he’s a bear get it”
In the recent story featuring him, he's referred to as "The Volibear," so it may be something more of a title.
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Sorry, League belongs to us now :3
: This. Why does this kind of thing have to be limited? Homeguard trails would be a thing I think should be implemented all year. Hell, I'd even buy more icons if it meant I'd be able to get cool trails to run around with.
There's nothing better than Aatrox doing his ultra-serious strut while a trail of rainbows follows behind him, tbh
: Mordekaiser's new bio - It sucks. It sucks hard. All of the epicness from before is just gone.
Yeah, I kinda agree as well. The skeleton phylactery was an interesting weakness, and it pains me that he has seemingly no relation to the Isles anymore. That said, I think you're not giving Sahn-Uzal enough credit in the intelligence department. He's a good enough warlord to have established an empire not once, but _twice_, and he was not only able to trick those mages into summoning him, but figure out how the afterlife's magic worked to the point that he can mold it at will and take full control over those he sends there. He even seemingly out-plotted Leblanc, as her betrayal was all part of his plan.
Dyromic (EUNE)
: With the Morde rework, what is even the Ruined King's role in the lore?
"A king remains in the mist, and another marches."
: Uhh video is unavailable?
Let's be real: It wouldn't be Morde without some sort of glitch.
: my B. the league wikia page was wrong. My point still stands though that 3 years have passed with no change to Yorick's CRUCIAL lore.
And that's fairly normal. Aurelion Sol and Taliyah were both released that year and are fairly major players in their respective storylines, but they have yet to be followed up on. It's been even longer since we checked in on Gangplank, Graves, and Twisted Fate. Bard doesn't even have a short story yet he's supposed to be one of the most important entities in the LoLverse. Yorick's probably my favorite character, so of course I wanna see more of him. But I've made peace with the fact that there's so much stuff that it takes a while to work back to things. We're about to head back to the Isles with Morde, so I'm hopeful, though.
: Well Yorick hasn't gotten any more lore since his rework short-story which was made DURING his rework and released a couple days after. Yorick's rework was released June 2011. The date is May 27, 2019. That's almost an 8 year gap of lore... meanwhile even characters like Caitlyn, Vi, Camille, Darius, and even Aatrox are getting tons of lore updates despite Vi, Camille, Dari and Aatrox having isolated lore. So don't try and pretend it hasn't been a long time and that Yorick has just been left out of new lore for "over a year". 8 Years is a long time to go without lore for someone who is CRUCIAL TO THE ENTIRETY OF A REGION. The way Riot is treating Yorick would be like not expanding Ryze's storyline past his normal biography and the short story about how the world runes are so powerful that they could destroy the entire world. Imagine Riot not expanding Ryze's storyline. Ryze only gets a single short story about searching for a World Rune and that's it. That is what Yorick's lore looks like right now. The one character who can actually RESTORE THE SHADOW ISLES isn't being given any lore for an audience to SEE that character attempt to restore the shadow isles.
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I love how people make these big claims that go against the findings of pretty much every single psych organization and imply it's our own damn fault for being marginalized and then don't bring anything to the table to back it up. Don't try and tell an actual trans person what's wrong with them, okay?
: Imagine sticking your foot into a bear-trap and wondering how it caught you.
Lmao, what is this even supposed to mean.
: ***
"Hey let's make a cute icon to show solidarity with the LGBT community against hate!" is shoving ideology down peoples' throats? If it's making you choke that badly, there's nothing wrong with finding a different game to occupy your time.
: Once again and the final time i'll do it. BTFO. There is definitely a number difference but that doesn't mean both shouldn't be addressed. Also, no it is NOT simply jokes on twitter. Stop trying to push the problem under the rug to minimalize our issues. You only serve to divide, not to unite.
BBQ. Then feel free to actually make a case that it does exist, then.
: `You'll get one for straightphobia when straight people get beaten up, disowned, harassed, discriminated, murdered etc for being straight Aka, never` Once again, btfo'd. Please, don't respond if this is your idea of a retort.
You stated "You don't get brownie points and to claim you're the only one who has it tough in this world because you aren't straight." Nowhere did that poster make such a claim. Please, don't respond if this is your idea of a retort.
: Just because it isnt a majority doesn't mean it isnt its own problem. Just like how gays ARENT a majority yet their issues are still a concern. Why is that so hard to understand? Do I really need to theorize why you refuse to accept that this is a fact and real occurrence? It'll only become more and more an issue as people strive to try and deny it. This is an easy "Yes, I agree" statement. I don't know why you're pretending your problems are more important than everyones.
The problems of LGBT+ people are more important than problems that _literally do not exist_, yeah.
: This is exactly the kinda shit behavior that gets straight people treated poorly and their problems ignored so that others can feel different. You don't get brownie points and to claim you're the only one who has it tough in this world because you aren't straight. You ARENT special.
Good thing they're not claiming that, then.
: Heterophobia and yes it is a thing. There are people out there who hate straights just like others hate gays. Other argument is completely wrong though so i'll give you that.
It absolutely is not a thing, especially to the extent that homophobia and transphobia are. Again, you can't point out cases of people being murdered/raped/disowned by family/fired/imprisoned etc. for being straight.
: > [{quoted}](name=Cetri,realm=NA,application-id=Ag8jgd8Q,discussion-id=H9k0T2Fx,comment-id=000d0000,timestamp=2019-05-15T03:26:08.872+0000) > > Because transitioning is totally a thing that doesn't take years of treatment and doctoral approval even before "the surgery," assuming the person even does that at all (many don't, for a ton of valid reasons). > > And hell, even if that scenario did happen... that still doesn't invalidate the fact that transphobia is a massive issue in today's society. I never said transphobia wasn't a problem (haven't really seen much evidence, whenever there is transphobia people are quick to ruin the persons life no matter the reason), Im just saying that trans people have an almost 50% suicide rate, and don't act like its just because someone called them a bad name so just be careful.
If you never said transphobia wasn't a problem, then why did you say "I'm cool with this, except for trans"? And no, trans people don't kill themselves just because they're trans, that's ridiculous. It absolutely has to do with how society as a whole treats trans people. How many get disowned by family. How many are mistreated or fired by employers with little to no legal recourse. And yes, being called slurs. Reducing prejudice down to "someone calling someone a bad name" is frankly ignorant.
: I wonder if riot foresaw the possible divide this would create in the comments. on a serious note, I'm cool with this, except for trans... let me explain. I don't care if your trans, thats fine, but sometimes you don't actually want to be trans and are just gay but don't know it. At that point most of them are like "well, I have no money from the surgery, my body is messed up, time to end this". In short, if your gonna be trans then just wait to be completely sure first.
Because transitioning is totally a thing that doesn't take years of treatment and doctoral approval even before "the surgery," assuming the person even does that at all (many don't, for a ton of valid reasons). And hell, even if that scenario did happen... that still doesn't invalidate the fact that transphobia is a massive issue in today's society.
: I mean, cool? Still gonna call my homies gay in chat tho. Also, heterophobia should probably be in there too. I've seen it rise quite a bit with the overwhelming push to try and move what should be considered the status quo?
I'm sure you can point out the places where it is illegal to be straight, the places where killing a cis person is considered a justifiable act just because you think they're icky, and the places where cishet people are systematically marginalized by society as a whole. LGBT people making jokes on twitter is nowhere near the same level. Stop acting like it is.
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